Ingela said:

jokocur said:

I'm as optimistic as anyone here I don't need any imaginary friends to live a beautiful meaningful life you can believe whatever you would like to I'm a very peaceful person and believe in humanity and we all need to strive for the greater good of all of us as far as anylitcal thinking goes why does everyone purposely stop thinking critically when it comes to matters of faith and also I know as much as I want to know about Prince despite what you may think sorry your so butt hurt but reality is tough to take sometimes

I'm not religious either, but it certainly helps people. Whether it be Prozac or positive thinking, whatever works for you is cool. I know a lot of far smart and far more prosperous people who are religious so maybe I'M the one who's wrong about religion. In any case, I am of the belief that becoming a JW saved his life. And you can see it in his amazing reemergence in the 2000's looking fantastic and and all the amazing performances he is now known for by a great majority of people. His RRHOF performance, his Super Bowl performance, Coachella, The Almas performance, his amazing tours, 21 nights. The jazz festival performances, on and on. I honestly think there was something troubling him in the 90's and he looked and sounded way off, then all off a sudden, just as he had fallen in the 90's, he was his badass self all over again. If Graham was a bad influence, well we all need this type of bad influence. He final decade here on earth he made up a lot of ground and proved to everyone once again that'tis nobody funkier. Left us wanting more and appreciating him more. He left us without a doubt in anyone's mind he was the baddest of them all. I truly doubt that outcome would have happened if he hadn't turned to someone for help. And lucky for us it was Larry Graham. [Edited 10/7/16 11:25am]

He said Larry was more of a father to him then his own father and that he helped with a lot of things. Even Sheila E said the JWs made him a better person.

laurarichardson said:

zenarose said:

Dibblekins said:

True, true - it wasn't explicitly mentioned as to the identity of the father - but wasn't it positioned right by where she spoke of enduring the heartache of divorce - and wasn't there a rumour that she was pregnant by P in 2003?

Who knows?? You never know what's going on with that. But I had my own little idea about that

situation in that P had probably fixed the problem permanently after MG. Possibly not wanting to

experience that pain again. It seemed to fit as he has no children. My personal thought is that she

and EB lost their first. But could be the other.

[Edited 10/7/16 11:49am]

Possibly so...I do wonder if, for whatever reason, not being able to have kids together was a factor in the divorce...

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It might well be that the opening of the divorce files sheds light on the situation - and might be why Manuela is so keen to keep them closed...

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zenarose said:

CooperC62057 said:

zenarose said:

The folks that are always battling were aggitating and POOF it was gone. I even asked them nicely to stay on topic and be nice but....... POOF

I tried to start it up again today but 4 or 5 posts and POOF it was locked and my org note directed me here. Guess our discussions will have to be here and hopefully every one can be nice!

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It's one thing to "lock" a thread, but it seems all the "Pill" threads were permanently deleted. Oh well. It's been a crazy & weird week, to say the least!

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I'm not counting on the "trolls" being nice, LOL

cloveringold85 said:

CooperC62057 said:

zenarose said: I tried to start it up again today but 4 or 5 posts and POOF it was locked and my org note directed me here. Guess our discussions will have to be here and hopefully every one can be nice!

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It's one thing to "lock" a thread, but it seems all the "Pill" threads were permanently deleted. Oh well. It's been a crazy & weird week, to say the least!

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I'm not counting on the "trolls" being nice, LOL

I'm annoyed if they've been deleted because, despite some people getting aggressive etc etc, there was a LOT of useful and well thought-out information in there, as well as relevant links to other sources.

Dibblekins said:

cloveringold85 said:

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It's one thing to "lock" a thread, but it seems all the "Pill" threads were permanently deleted. Oh well. It's been a crazy & weird week, to say the least!

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I'm not counting on the "trolls" being nice, LOL

I'm annoyed if they've been deleted because, despite some people getting aggressive etc etc, there was a LOT of useful and well thought-out information in there, as well as relevant links to other sources.

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Dibble: I know. A lot of people did a great deal of research, only to have it zapped!!

cloveringold85 said:

MIRvmn said:

That's cuz both Tyka and Sheila knows hes alive so for them hes not dead. When some I know has died I never talk about them in present tense

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I have considered that "fake death" scenario, but I seriously don't think Prince would ever fake his death. Sheila E. looked completed devestated when she did that Prince tribute on BET; she was a wreck!! Why would Prince break the hearts of everyone who loved and adored him? He was too much of a beautiful soul to ever do that.

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I always keep an "open mind" about things.......and there could always be that "possibility".

It depends, if his life really was in danger then maybe he didn't have any choice but to fake his death. It could also be that he had health issues so he wouldn't be able to perform as he used to and was in need of real treatment but didn't want his fans to worry so he pulled the plug and stepped away from the spotlight. I think this is more likely than the drug story which makes no sense at all cuz here we are 6 months later with even more questions, it shouldn't be like that. I mean how hard can it be to be for his family to be honest with the fans? aren't we people with feelings? Therefore I'm pretty sure hes not dead

MIRvmn said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I have considered that "fake death" scenario, but I seriously don't think Prince would ever fake his death. Sheila E. looked completed devestated when she did that Prince tribute on BET; she was a wreck!! Why would Prince break the hearts of everyone who loved and adored him? He was too much of a beautiful soul to ever do that.

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I always keep an "open mind" about things.......and there could always be that "possibility".

It depends, if his life really was in danger then maybe he didn't have any choice but to fake his death. It could also be that he had health issues so he wouldn't be able to perform as he used to and was in need of real treatment but didn't want his fans to worry so he pulled the plug and stepped away from the spotlight. I think this is more likely than the drug story which makes no sense at all cuz here we are 6 months later with even more questions, it shouldn't be like that. I mean how hard can it be to be for his family to be honest with the fans? aren't we people with feelings? Therefore I'm pretty sure hes not dead

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None of this has made any sense, from day one, so anything is possible. Any news that comes out about Prince, I have to take with a grain of salt.

cloveringold85 said:

MIRvmn said:

It depends, if his life really was in danger then maybe he didn't have any choice but to fake his death. It could also be that he had health issues so he wouldn't be able to perform as he used to and was in need of real treatment but didn't want his fans to worry so he pulled the plug and stepped away from the spotlight. I think this is more likely than the drug story which makes no sense at all cuz here we are 6 months later with even more questions, it shouldn't be like that. I mean how hard can it be to be for his family to be honest with the fans? aren't we people with feelings? Therefore I'm pretty sure hes not dead

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None of this has made any sense, from day one, so anything is possible. Any news that comes out about Prince, I have to take with a grain of salt.

I agree and I think nothing will change in the near future, it will most likely get worse and more confusing.

cloveringold85 said:

Dibblekins said:

I'm annoyed if they've been deleted because, despite some people getting aggressive etc etc, there was a LOT of useful and well thought-out information in there, as well as relevant links to other sources.

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Dibble: I know. A lot of people did a great deal of research, only to have it zapped!!

Hey Yall I got ALL those links saved on my PC. I learned 2 threads ago....

MIRvmn said:

cloveringold85 said:

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None of this has made any sense, from day one, so anything is possible. Any news that comes out about Prince, I have to take with a grain of salt.

I agree and I think nothing will change in the near future, it will most likely get worse and more confusing.

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Well folks, this will come as no surprise........The National Enquirer is at it, again!! Prince's family needs to put the kibosh on these defamatory articles. I know they are "tabloid" news, but they've been sued before. Can't Prince's estate do something about this trash??

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From National Enquirer:

SLOW SUICIDE!

Prince’s Sister Confirms: AIDS-Ridden Star Was Ready To Die

By J.R. Taylor

Posted on Oct 6, 2016 @ 10:10AM

Every single time religion gets all of the credit but none of the blame.. ...

Holy freekn' Batcrap!!!!!

zenarose said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Dibble: I know. A lot of people did a great deal of research, only to have it zapped!!

Hey Yall I got ALL those links saved on my PC. I learned 2 threads ago....

LMAO! Good woman!!!

cloveringold85 said:

Well folks, this will come as no surprise........The National Enquirer is at it, again!! Prince's family needs to put the kibosh on these defamatory articles. I know they are "tabloid" news, but they've been sued before. Can't Prince's estate do something about this trash??

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From National Enquirer:

SLOW SUICIDE!

Prince’s Sister Confirms: AIDS-Ridden Star Was Ready To Die

By J.R. Taylor

Posted on Oct 6, 2016 @ 10:10AM

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The sister of legendary rocker Princewasn't shocked by the rock star's "sudden" death at the age of 57 — because the suicidal star gave her two years to prepare! As exposed in a blockbuster exclusive by The National ENQUIRER, Prince had diagnosed as HIV-positive in the 1990s. Now grieving Tyka Nelson has revealed that her brother was ready to die back in 2014.

Three possible reasons for not suing:

1) They don't care what publications like this have to say:

2) They hope that by ignoring it, it goes away;

3) It's true.

Dibblekins said:

cloveringold85 said:

Well folks, this will come as no surprise........The National Enquirer is at it, again!! Prince's family needs to put the kibosh on these defamatory articles. I know they are "tabloid" news, but they've been sued before. Can't Prince's estate do something about this trash??

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From National Enquirer:

SLOW SUICIDE!

Prince’s Sister Confirms: AIDS-Ridden Star Was Ready To Die

By J.R. Taylor

Posted on Oct 6, 2016 @ 10:10AM

8

0

SHARE

The sister of legendary rocker Princewasn't shocked by the rock star's "sudden" death at the age of 57 — because the suicidal star gave her two years to prepare! As exposed in a blockbuster exclusive by The National ENQUIRER, Prince had diagnosed as HIV-positive in the 1990s. Now grieving Tyka Nelson has revealed that her brother was ready to die back in 2014.

Three possible reasons for not suing:

1) They don't care what publications like this have to say:

2) They hope that by ignoring it, it goes away;

3) It's true.

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Agreed. You have to wonder if someone is "feeding" them this information (and being paid), or are they just making this stuff up because of what Tyka said to ET & the Today Show? It's really quite pathetic, but hey.....anything for a story!

Ingela said:

zenarose said:

CooperC62057 said:

zenarose said:

Hey Yall I got ALL those links saved on my PC. I learned 2 threads ago....

Zenarose you are amazing!!!!

I will be glad to share if anyone needs links.

Luvu4ever said:

i think in the end the people that were closest to him failed him misrebly.. all the red flags were there that he needed help badly he should have had that intervention the day he got off the plane in Illinos.. they waited until he was ready probably because he had hit rock bottom in his mind and at that time it was too late.. so thats why i blame the people around him ,,, if they stepped up with some reasonable thinking he could still be with us

Ingela said:

jokocur said:

I'm as optimistic as anyone here I don't need any imaginary friends to live a beautiful meaningful life you can believe whatever you would like to I'm a very peaceful person and believe in humanity and we all need to strive for the greater good of all of us as far as anylitcal thinking goes why does everyone purposely stop thinking critically when it comes to matters of faith and also I know as much as I want to know about Prince despite what you may think sorry your so butt hurt but reality is tough to take sometimes

I'm not religious either, but it certainly helps people. Whether it be Prozac or positive thinking, whatever works for you is cool. I know a lot of far smart and far more prosperous people who are religious so maybe I'M the one who's wrong about religion. . In any case, I am of the belief that becoming a JW saved his life. And you can see it in his amazing reemergence in the 2000's looking fantastic and and all the amazing performances he is now known for by a great majority of people. . His RRHOF performance, his Super Bowl performance, Coachella, The Almas performance, his amazing tours, 21 nights. The jazz festival performances, on and on. . I honestly think there was something troubling him in the 90's, and he looked and sounded way off. Then all off a sudden, just as how sudden he had fallen in the 90's, he was his badass self all over again. . If Graham was a bad influence, well we would all be lucky to get this type of bad influence. Prince's final decade and a half here on earth, he more than made up a lot of ground and proved to everyone once again that tis nobody funkier. Left us wanting more and appreciating him more. He left us without any doubt in anyone's mind he was the baddest of them all. . I truly doubt that outcome would have happened if he hadn't turned to someone for help. And lucky for us it was Larry Graham. [Edited 10/7/16 12:44pm]

i dont know how you credit Larry Graham for those incredible performances and where was larry when he needed him most?

MIRvmn said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I have considered that "fake death" scenario, but I seriously don't think Prince would ever fake his death. Sheila E. looked completed devestated when she did that Prince tribute on BET; she was a wreck!! Why would Prince break the hearts of everyone who loved and adored him? He was too much of a beautiful soul to ever do that.

.

I always keep an "open mind" about things.......and there could always be that "possibility".

It depends, if his life really was in danger then maybe he didn't have any choice but to fake his death. It could also be that he had health issues so he wouldn't be able to perform as he used to and was in need of real treatment but didn't want his fans to worry so he pulled the plug and stepped away from the spotlight. I think this is more likely than the drug story which makes no sense at all cuz here we are 6 months later with even more questions, it shouldn't be like that. I mean how hard can it be to be for his family to be honest with the fans? aren't we people with feelings? Therefore I'm pretty sure hes not dead

I know there has always been conspiracy's about famous folks faking their death.

But is something like that really possible to do.

Is it just a case of greasing all the right people to go along with the charade.

Seemd like it would have to be pretty epic thing to try and pull off... surely would take major planning and arranging.

I suppose it might be possible, who knows.

oscarchristio777 said:

MIRvmn said:

It depends, if his life really was in danger then maybe he didn't have any choice but to fake his death. It could also be that he had health issues so he wouldn't be able to perform as he used to and was in need of real treatment but didn't want his fans to worry so he pulled the plug and stepped away from the spotlight. I think this is more likely than the drug story which makes no sense at all cuz here we are 6 months later with even more questions, it shouldn't be like that. I mean how hard can it be to be for his family to be honest with the fans? aren't we people with feelings? Therefore I'm pretty sure hes not dead

I know there has always been conspiracy's about famous folks faking their death.

But is something like that really possible to do.

Is it just a case of greasing all the right people to go along with the charade.

Seemd like it would have to be pretty epic thing to try and pull off... surely would take major planning and arranging.

I suppose it might be possible, who knows.

Prince faking his own death would be very logistically difficult and not to mention highly risky.

If he got caught he would go to jail and have his reputation ruined.

The only way he could successfully fake his death was if he had help from the authorities.

One possible scenario is that the plane incident was a botched assassination attempt and he went to the Feds for protection.

Another scenario is that there are going to be some big arrests made of people involved with the pharmaceutical industry. Prince could be in witness protection right now.