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Reply #960 posted 09/15/16 7:13pm

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rogifan said:


SquirrelMeat said:

I think the important thing to remember is that one persons Bowie is another persons Jackson. We are never all going to agree on what is a good line up and what is bad. There is no right answer.

If I lived locally to the gig, I would snap it up. Why the hell not? Some good performers and a night to remember. Equally, for some like myself who has travelled the world for Prince, this weak line up creates a dilemma. "Official" means nothing when its clear the planners don't understand Prince fans.

If I asked Prince if I should spend a lot of money coming to see Tori Kelly and Luke James cover Prince songs in St Paul, or instead, spend it on extra time with my family, I think I know what he would say.

And that would be before we even got into the conversation as to whether this 'memorial' was for charity or simply paying lawyers....



All true but why the focus on Tori Kelly and Luke James as if nobody else is going to be there? confused



Because they exemplify the quality of thought that has gone into this. The guy that fought tooth and nail for real music for real musicians ends up with a tribute containing some talentless D listers, sporadic ex band members and very 'off the boil' A/B listers.

I'm not denying there are not some good performers (I've seen The Time and Stevie over the summer and they were great), but when you bare in mind the home talent obviously missing (The Revolution, Sheila E, Jill Jones, The Family) or the people who respected him (Madonna, Bruce, Beyonce, Rihanna), its a very poor show.

Its quite clearly a botch job hiding under the banner of "Official".


I guess we'all have to agree to disagree. Sure I'd love it if the Revolution were there (still holding out hope) but honestly I'd rather see people he was recently working with than someone like Jill Jones. And as far as I'm concerned members of NPG were real musicians and played real music. Morris Hayes played with Prince longer than anybody. I'll take him over Jill Jones or The Family any day. And man if they get Maceo Parker or Candy Dulfer that will be icing on the cake. 🙂
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Reply #961 posted 09/15/16 7:21pm

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SquirrelMeat said:



Because they exemplify the quality of thought that has gone into this. The guy that fought tooth and nail for real music for real musicians ends up with a tribute containing some talentless D listers, sporadic ex band members and very 'off the boil' A/B listers.

I'm not denying there are not some good performers (I've seen The Time and Stevie over the summer and they were great), but when you bare in mind the home talent obviously missing (The Revolution, Sheila E, Jill Jones, The Family) or the people who respected him (Madonna, Bruce, Beyonce, Rihanna), its a very poor show.

Its quite clearly a botch job hiding under the banner of "Official".

I guess we'all have to agree to disagree. Sure I'd love it if the Revolution were there (still holding out hope) but honestly I'd rather see people he was recently working with than someone like Jill Jones. And as far as I'm concerned members of NPG were real musicians and played real music. Morris Hayes played with Prince longer than anybody. I'll take him over Jill Jones or The Family any day. And man if they get Maceo Parker or Candy Dulfer that will be icing on the cake. 🙂

You'd take Morris Hayes on keys over a band with Jellybean, St Paul and Eric Leeds? Have you seen The family live???

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Reply #962 posted 09/15/16 7:32pm

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rogifan said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I think the important thing to remember is that one persons Bowie is another persons Jackson. We are never all going to agree on what is a good line up and what is bad. There is no right answer.

If I lived locally to the gig, I would snap it up. Why the hell not? Some good performers and a night to remember. Equally, for some like myself who has travelled the world for Prince, this weak line up creates a dilemma. "Official" means nothing when its clear the planners don't understand Prince fans.

If I asked Prince if I should spend a lot of money coming to see Tori Kelly and Luke James cover Prince songs in St Paul, or instead, spend it on extra time with my family, I think I know what he would say.

And that would be before we even got into the conversation as to whether this 'memorial' was for charity or simply paying lawyers....

All true but why the focus on Tori Kelly and Luke James as if nobody else is going to be there? confused

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Reply #963 posted 09/15/16 7:36pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

rogifan said:

SquirrelMeat said: All true but why the focus on Tori Kelly and Luke James as if nobody else is going to be there? confused



Because they exemplify the quality of thought that has gone into this. The guy that fought tooth and nail for real music for real musicians ends up with a tribute containing some talentless D listers, sporadic ex band members and very 'off the boil' A/B listers.

I'm not denying there are not some good performers (I've seen The Time and Stevie over the summer and they were great), but when you bare in mind the home talent obviously missing (The Revolution, Sheila E, Jill Jones, The Family) or the people who respected him (Madonna, Bruce, Beyonce, Rihanna), its a very poor show.

Its quite clearly a botch job hiding under the banner of "Official".

I dont think this is a very poor show. It's not what we were hoping for, granted, but you are not taking into the account of the willingness or availability of those other parties! Who's to say that's what some of the delay was over, trying to make it work and secure some of those other names that were rumoured. I'm glad Madonna isn't there TBH - I don't need to hear her butcher another Prince song disbelief I'm not longer interested in Sheila being there, simply because their move to create a show on Oct 15th is catty. She COULD have been at the Oct 13th event. But Pride/Ego...who knows what is in the way. It shouldn't be about any of them. This is supposed to be about HIM.

Who knows, maybe they'll have a few surprise guests...does seem like Brownmark & Londell are still in discussions...

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Reply #964 posted 09/15/16 8:09pm

i24u

It's an ok line up. Couple that with a PP tour and it would make for a fun couple of days. Hopefully First Ave or other night clubs will do Prince night Thru, Fri or Sat. That would make it even better.

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Reply #965 posted 09/15/16 8:42pm

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I have quietly been following all of the events leading up to today's announcement. And while I can understand the confusion and frustration with the lack of communication and the disappointment with some acts in the lineup...at the end of the day none of that matters to me. This isn't a regular concert event for me. I am looking for a place to soothe my heart with other fans, family and artists who loved Prince the way I did. In whatever way closure can be found, I hope this gathering of fans can help us through what has been an awful nightmare. As much as this is a tribute to his music and all the things Prince taught us, it is just as much of a memorial for some of us.

For those who feel some type of way about this concert, maybe there will be a bigger event next year with all the artists people want. Most importantly for me is the chance to mourn with people who understand how fresh his loss still feels six months later. I really hope I'll get a chance to meet some of you there.

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Reply #966 posted 09/15/16 9:44pm

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Thanks to everyone who made this possible! We have been asking for answers and now we have them. You are providing a forum for us to gather, express our shared love for "The Man", celebrate his life and legacy as well as support eachother. This, like most things in life, are what you make of them. I am going to take this opportunity to connect with people I would have never met otherwise and share an incredible experience. I'm grateful to the family/estate/orginazation/whomever put this together. Nothin but LOVE baby!!!

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Reply #967 posted 09/15/16 11:07pm

ForeverPaisley

AprilSnowMountains said:

I have quietly been following all of the events leading up to today's announcement. And while I can understand the confusion and frustration with the lack of communication and the disappointment with some acts in the lineup...at the end of the day none of that matters to me. This isn't a regular concert event for me. I am looking for a place to soothe my heart with other fans, family and artists who loved Prince the way I did. In whatever way closure can be found, I hope this gathering of fans can help us through what has been an awful nightmare. As much as this is a tribute to his music and all the things Prince taught us, it is just as much of a memorial for some of us.

For those who feel some type of way about this concert, maybe there will be a bigger event next year with all the artists people want. Most importantly for me is the chance to mourn with people who understand how fresh his loss still feels six months later. I really hope I'll get a chance to meet some of you there.

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hug Exactly. It may not be what everyone envisioned, but that's okay too. Under the unrest of dealing with an estate, and slightly early notice (for trying for a large event as such), I think they tried their best. I don't think it was a half-ass attempt by ANY means. And there always factors at play that we don't know as well. They could have reached out to three times this amount of people for all we know, and maybe they are not available or something else conflicts. I am grateful that instead of NIXING the idea due to some fandangling, that they still went with an event that night knowing how many fams bought travel etc.

nod Hope to meet U there as well! As soon as Monday rolls around, going to reach out to a couple restaurants in the area of the stadium so we can arrange a get together/dinner/mixer.

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Reply #968 posted 09/16/16 3:58am

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I agree with Rogifan. I don't think this line-up reflects Prince. I read an article in the Trib which states the Estate hopes to clear a million dollars from the show. Prince would have been the first person to say it should benefit his preferred causes, not him.

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Reply #969 posted 09/16/16 6:28am

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rogifan said:

YaThink said:
***OCTOBER 13 TRIBUTE IS CURRENTLY NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE FAMILY OF PRINCE*** Don't be fooled 💜
What??? It's listed as the official tribute concert. You're saying his family is not involved? Even though it's on the same night as the original announcement from Tyka??


I'm also confused by this statement.

So the family is no longer involved in the "official" tribute concert? confuse Remember, Tyka was the one who announced it (many weeks ago)...

If that's true, why did they drop out of this event?

The Star-Tribune article focuses on Londell, giving me the impression he is the driving force behind this.

http://www.startribune.co...393618071/

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Reply #970 posted 09/16/16 7:14am

1Sasha

It was my understanding that from the get-go there have been two factions among the siblings, and that the original dispute regarding the concert was about money and television rights. I heard this from someone who lived there.

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Reply #971 posted 09/16/16 7:27am

destinyc1

These type of events aren't easy to put together.But,the lineup is nice.Hell i'd pay any amount just for stevie himself.But,j thats just me.I hope people didn't make their minds up based off of who was coming.Its suppose to be about the purple one himself. OK now im going to mess with everyone you know xtina A is prob going to sing purple rain right lol While john m plays the guitar

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Reply #972 posted 09/16/16 7:31am

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I'm a little disappointed in the line up to tell the truth. With the exception of John Mayer and Christinia Aguillera and Tori Kelly, where are all the bigger names? I would have expected more artists like Rhianna, Janelle Monae, Alecia Keys, Bruno Mars, Justin Timberlake, Drake and other current artists as well.

Many of the artist they have are old. Not offense against Stevie Wonder, and Anita Baker and Chaka Khan but I don't know I guess I expected more. Perhaps, the lack of bigger names, is why they went from a Stadium setting to a smaller venue.

Anyone elses thoughts on the line up?

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Reply #973 posted 09/16/16 7:44am

i24u

musicfan77 said:

I'm a little disappointed in the line up to tell the truth. With the exception of John Mayer and Christinia Aguillera and Tori Kelly, where are all the bigger names? I would have expected more artists like Rhianna, Janelle Monae, Alecia Keys, Bruno Mars, Justin Timberlake, Drake and other current artists as well.

Many of the artist they have are old. Not offense against Stevie Wonder, and Anita Baker and Chaka Khan but I don't know I guess I expected more. Perhaps, the lack of bigger names, is why they went from a Stadium setting to a smaller venue.

Anyone elses thoughts on the line up?

I'm going to have to agree with you on this one. It's an ok line but but you think they could of easily got Janelle Monae. Alecia Keys might of been harder to get. Justin Timberlake I don't think is doing much right now. The Revolution is really what is missing for me. I'm still planning on going but the revolution not being there is probably my biggest disappointment. Sure they just did shows I just wish they would of been a bigger place then first ave. I tried getting tickets with no luck at all.

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Reply #974 posted 09/16/16 7:46am

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musicfan77 said:

I'm a little disappointed in the line up to tell the truth. With the exception of John Mayer and Christinia Aguillera and Tori Kelly, where are all the bigger names? I would have expected more artists like Rhianna, Janelle Monae, Alecia Keys, Bruno Mars, Justin Timberlake, Drake and other current artists as well.

Many of the artist they have are old. Not offense against Stevie Wonder, and Anita Baker and Chaka Khan but I don't know I guess I expected more. Perhaps, the lack of bigger names, is why they went from a Stadium setting to a smaller venue.

Anyone elses thoughts on the line up?

Prince was old; most of his fans are old. I'll take THE LEGEND Stevie Wonder with Anita Baker and Chaka Khan over those younger ones you listed any day. Ageist much? rolleyes confused

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Reply #975 posted 09/16/16 7:47am

i24u

Ticket Prices are $19.99-$150 limit of 6. Keep in mind ticketmaster fees are high. $150 will end up with fees being around $170 #ouch

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Reply #976 posted 09/16/16 7:48am

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musicfan77 said:

I'm a little disappointed in the line up to tell the truth. With the exception of John Mayer and Christinia Aguillera and Tori Kelly, where are all the bigger names? I would have expected more artists like Rhianna, Janelle Monae, Alecia Keys, Bruno Mars, Justin Timberlake, Drake and other current artists as well.

Many of the artist they have are old. Not offense against Stevie Wonder, and Anita Baker and Chaka Khan but I don't know I guess I expected more. Perhaps, the lack of bigger names, is why they went from a Stadium setting to a smaller venue.

Anyone elses thoughts on the line up?

I dont know but,many felt the BET awards were it.....Also the radio celebs as i call them or bigger name celebs are prob booked on tours that have been booked for prob 6 months to a year.Also maybe a celebs PR team declined.Money,schedule who knows?!!!

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Reply #977 posted 09/16/16 7:49am

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1Sasha said:

It was my understanding that from the get-go there have been two factions among the siblings, and that the original dispute regarding the concert was about money and television rights. I heard this from someone who lived there.

It figures. rolleyes

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Reply #978 posted 09/16/16 7:55am

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purplethunder3121 said:

musicfan77 said:

I'm a little disappointed in the line up to tell the truth. With the exception of John Mayer and Christinia Aguillera and Tori Kelly, where are all the bigger names? I would have expected more artists like Rhianna, Janelle Monae, Alecia Keys, Bruno Mars, Justin Timberlake, Drake and other current artists as well.

Many of the artist they have are old. Not offense against Stevie Wonder, and Anita Baker and Chaka Khan but I don't know I guess I expected more. Perhaps, the lack of bigger names, is why they went from a Stadium setting to a smaller venue.

Anyone elses thoughts on the line up?

Prince was old; most of his fans are old. I'll take THE LEGEND Stevie Wonder with Anita Baker and Chaka Khan over those younger ones you listed any day. Ageist much? rolleyes confused

I'll agree with both of you. The Revolution's show at First Avenue is what got me started into all of this. I was not able to get tickets. So, started waiting for this one. Really expected the Revolution to participate in this concert too. And I don't even know some of the younger participants on the listing. I'm glad I'm not the ONLY "older" one coming to this show!

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Reply #979 posted 09/16/16 8:07am

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i24u said:

Ticket Prices are $19.99-$150 limit of 6. Keep in mind ticketmaster fees are high. $150 will end up with fees being around $170 #ouch


Where did u get this information? Details are not on the TM site as of this instant:

Edit: okay, l see the price info now

http://www.ticketmaster.c...norcatid=1

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Reply #980 posted 09/16/16 8:16am

i24u

CandaceS said:

i24u said:

Ticket Prices are $19.99-$150 limit of 6. Keep in mind ticketmaster fees are high. $150 will end up with fees being around $170 #ouch


Where did u get this information? Details are not on the TM site as of this instant:

http://www.ticketmaster.c...norcatid=1

Thanks for posting my links never seem to work. Not sure about this now. $170 seems very high to me. Good line up $170 worthy. Let's debate. Ok let's not get that started. smile

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Reply #981 posted 09/16/16 8:18am

i24u

http://www.xcelenergycenter.com/events/detail/the-official-prince-tribute More info on the prince range of tickets. PRICE$19.99 / $42.50 / $82.50 / $112.50 / $152.50 Keep in mind these prices are probably if you buy at box office. Online will hit you for about another $17 a ticket. So you looking at . $60 $100 $130 $170 online with fees tax and what ever else ticketmaster will charge you.

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Reply #982 posted 09/16/16 8:19am

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i24u said:



musicfan77 said:


I'm a little disappointed in the line up to tell the truth. With the exception of John Mayer and Christinia Aguillera and Tori Kelly, where are all the bigger names? I would have expected more artists like Rhianna, Janelle Monae, Alecia Keys, Bruno Mars, Justin Timberlake, Drake and other current artists as well.



Many of the artist they have are old. Not offense against Stevie Wonder, and Anita Baker and Chaka Khan but I don't know I guess I expected more. Perhaps, the lack of bigger names, is why they went from a Stadium setting to a smaller venue.



Anyone elses thoughts on the line up?



I'm going to have to agree with you on this one. It's an ok line but but you think they could of easily got Janelle Monae. Alecia Keys might of been harder to get. Justin Timberlake I don't think is doing much right now. The Revolution is really what is missing for me. I'm still planning on going but the revolution not being there is probably my biggest disappointment. Sure they just did shows I just wish they would of been a bigger place then first ave. I tried getting tickets with no luck at all.


I wonder if it is a money thing. Are all these people showing up for free? If not getting all those A-listers (I'd maybe quibble about putting Janelle Monae in that bucket) would be pretty expensive.
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Reply #983 posted 09/16/16 8:24am

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1Sasha said:

It was my understanding that from the get-go there have been two factions among the siblings, and that the original dispute regarding the concert was about money and television rights. I heard this from someone who lived there.


I get the feeling there were issues behind the scenes but because the date was announced some (like Londell) felt they had to keep that commitment and worked to pull something together. That's the tough part with the estate still being settled and Prince not having one big happy family where all his siblings get along wit each other and are able to make decisions in unison. Sad situation all around.
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Reply #984 posted 09/16/16 9:02am

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musicfan77 said:

I'm a little disappointed in the line up to tell the truth. With the exception of John Mayer and Christinia Aguillera and Tori Kelly, where are all the bigger names? I would have expected more artists like Rhianna, Janelle Monae, Alecia Keys, Bruno Mars, Justin Timberlake, Drake and other current artists as well.



Many of the artist they have are old. Not offense against Stevie Wonder, and Anita Baker and Chaka Khan but I don't know I guess I expected more. Perhaps, the lack of bigger names, is why they went from a Stadium setting to a smaller venue.



Anyone elses thoughts on the line up?


This is a great line up....Prince was 58 these artists rep his evolving era....if you want a younger crowd than look elsewhere. This is .a tribute from performers he loved and performers who love him....PRINCE..the artist why all the hating??? It's gonna be a blast ...when's the last time you saw Chaka??? Or Anita? Or Stevie...they are all so beautiful in concert...powerhouses. Maybe some of the young bloods will donate there talents to a man who they groomed after....
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Reply #985 posted 09/16/16 9:05am

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i24u said:

MEH I don't know. Not bad could of been better. Kind of not sure how I fell about it being in St Paul and not Minneapolis for one. Being a smaller venue might make it much much harder to get tickets also. sad Line up not great but not too bad. sad

The seating capacity for this venue is 18,568. Much more realistic at this late date but still a challenge to fill. Now travellors in Minnie have to figure out how to get to St. Paul... razz

Now travellors in Minnie have to figure out how to get to St. Paul... razz

It's 19 minutes drive time. It is farther from Minne to Chanhassen!

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Reply #986 posted 09/16/16 9:23am

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purplethunder3121 said:




i24u said:


MEH I don't know. Not bad could of been better. Kind of not sure how I fell about it being in St Paul and not Minneapolis for one. Being a smaller venue might make it much much harder to get tickets also. sad Line up not great but not too bad. sad



The seating capacity for this venue is 18,568. Much more realistic at this late date but still a challenge to fill. Now travellors in Minnie have to figure out how to get to St. Paul... razz





Now travellors in Minnie have to figure out how to get to St. Paul... razz





It's 19 minutes drive time. It is farther from Minne to Chanhassen!

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Reply #987 posted 09/16/16 9:26am

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My two cents - It sounds like everyone (Estate, family, band members, etc.) was not communicating on the same level or at all for that matter.

For this to have been done right, everyone should have put the breaks on and all got together to do one BIG, appropriate and deserving tribute in Minne. For friends(fans) and the citizens of his hometown (I mean outside of televised awards shows) Instead, there's a tribuite over here, one over here and it all the roads are going in 7 different directions. I understand these musicians have a life and tours and performances to get to -after all, all of the sudden they were all out of work -they have to make a living. But they should have at least all talked about this. On the other hand, maybe they did and couldn't reach an agreement.

I hope all that get the chance to attend - both tributes MN/Ohio will enjoy themselves. One cannot make everyone happy. As friends, let's just make sure to keep his legacy alive, support the effort being made - no matter how crazy it's been - and have love 4 one another. I think that is what Prince would like most. prince

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Reply #988 posted 09/16/16 9:35am

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lol @ the "artists subject to change" disclaimer on Ticketmaster.com.... no need to debate about the lineup, I guess it might change anyway LOL
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Reply #989 posted 09/16/16 9:35am

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meagemini2 said:

My two cents - It sounds like everyone (Estate, family, band members, etc.) was not communicating on the same level or at all for that matter.



For this to have been done right, everyone should have put the breaks on and all got together to do one BIG, appropriate and deserving tribute in Minne. For friends(fans) and the citizens of his hometown (I mean outside of televised awards shows) Instead, there's a tribuite over here, one over here and it all the roads are going in 7 different directions. I understand these musicians have a life and tours and performances to get to -after all, all of the sudden they were all out of work -they have to make a living. But they should have at least all talked about this. On the other hand, maybe they did and couldn't reach an agreement.




I hope all that get the chance to attend - both tributes MN/Ohio will enjoy themselves. One cannot make everyone happy. As friends, let's just make sure to keep his legacy alive, support the effort being made - no matter how crazy it's been - and have love 4 one another. I think that is what Prince would like most. prince



Peace, love and healing. grouphug


I'm still mostly positive about this but I have a Prince list on Twitter that includes a number of former band members and only one - Liv Warfield has actually tweeted about this and hers was just a re-tweet of someone else's tweet. Both Ida Nielsen and Shelby J have posted on social media since this announcement and neither one has mentioned it. You'd think if they were involved they'd be excited and want people to know about it. The whole thing is just....I don't know...hard to explain what I'm feeling... neutral
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