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Reply #60 posted 05/09/16 11:19am

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babynoz said:



endiadj said:


babynoz said:

Seeing what information leaks out helps to determine the source of the leak sometimes. Someone else mentioned claims being made to the estate. It isn't really that hard to figure out why they're waiting to see what crawls out of the woodwork.



but why are they waiting. to say, ah ha, gotcha? why? what's the point?



It isn't "gotcha".....come on, disbelief

Shouldn't anyone trying to protect his legacy know who they are protecting it from? If stuff is leaking or bogus claims are being made then lawsuits, injunctions or other punitive measures may need to happen. I need to remind people again that this is an open probate case.

This really isn't hard to figure out.


----- Yes, you do have to keep explaining it. The Estate will be pay legitimate claims and those that are not legitimate will be exposed.
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Reply #61 posted 05/09/16 11:23am

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2elijah said:

NinaB said:

When the cat's away...my goodness, I wouldn't want anyone speaking 4 me when I'm not here, least of all people who've never even met me. I doubt very much Cat is referring 2 Sheila, from all accounts it appears they have been on good terms 4 yrs. All this speculation & straight out fantasy on P's personal life is very tedious, not 2 mention juvenile. God knows what's going 2 come out of people's mouths in the future. Spose I better get used 2 it. Damn P! no will! You'll remain a mystery & they'll be debating 4 yrs 2 come.

Exactly, and it's a shame there hasn't been one found yet.

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Reply #62 posted 05/09/16 11:24am

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BombFunk said:

Since Van seems to be one of Prince's closest friends ...

prince

Where the fuck was Van on Prince's lonely last night, just days after Prince's life already had to be saved for the first time with a save shot after the emergency landing? Even Prince cannot escape death twice in a row dude! That first time of saving his life should have been a fucking wake-up call for his fucking inner circle! But no, they all just left Prince alone, nothing changed. Did Van not realize it's not a good idea to leave Prince all alone by himself right after his life was already saved ONCE because of some medical urgent situation? (flu my ass!)

prince

Why did Van not send someone over (nurse, doctor, personal assistent, friend, family member etc) to make 100% sure Prince was alright or to just keep an eye out? No matter what Prince wanted, just sleep on the kitchen floor and stay out of his way but just be there!

prince

Why was there no (portable) emergency GPS system in place so Prince could press a button in case of an emergency (medical/robbery/kidnap attempt etc) and help would race to his location asap!? He was worth millions ffs. Not sure Prince had a cellphone, I think I read he did not have one which makes such a system even more important!

prince

What a mess ... and now Van is waiting for what exactly?

VAN Jones only met Prince 3 years ago..not sure how real or endearing that relationship was.

hmmm

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Reply #63 posted 05/09/16 12:32pm

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I want to know what Kirk knows. Given his closeness to Prince, you just KNOW that man has info....about a LOT of things.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #64 posted 05/09/16 3:01pm

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emesem said:

Not if she thinks Sheila is lying.

starkitty said:

PS - um, weren't cat and sheila tight on those tours? cat needs to chill.

Well, I for one have been getting seriously tired of Sheila E. being referred to as an ex-fiancee over and over like it was some major thing.

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Reply #65 posted 05/09/16 3:06pm

Linn4days

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PS - um, weren't cat and sheila tight on those tours? cat needs to chill.

They should not about that now.... Sheila has said that times before... They all need to hang-out, and have a good time--about those times..

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Reply #66 posted 05/09/16 3:13pm

Linn4days

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starkitty said:

not sure if this fits here, but, cat is dropping so much shade on fb.

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https://www.facebook.com/catherine.glover.37/posts/1089434337769473?pnref=story

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"Catherine Glover

20 hrs ·

It's so funny that me and Miko Miko and other people that were involved in Prince's life as band members and dancers are so irrelevant that's because these Fame seeking whores !try to make themselves Prince's business manager Chief Chef who ever ..."

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and some of her comments on that same post:

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Catherine Glover Oh I was engaged to prince!! Bullshit! Liar!!!

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Catherine Glover Not true!!!;

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but then her kids(?) posted using her account saying that cat is in the hospital, so, who knows.

It is very possible to use wifi from a hospital room so Cat could posting from her twitter account. I think Cat might be thtowing some serious shade at Sheila. Hmmmmph.

Cat needs to rest, get better, and address that later...

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Reply #67 posted 05/09/16 3:16pm

Linn4days

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destinyc1 said:

Damn this made me cry

I always thought the Prince and Sheila were engaged bit was suspect. I swear I remember an interview where she insisted they were just really good friends. Then it turned into this weird thing once she had a book to sell. Don't get me wrong I love Sheila E but ... Eh ?? Sheila is really religious as I recall and I think so is Tyka. I worry that will cloud decisions made about vault stuff. Why is it ok to say whatever you want when the book is 100% yours but when something is hanging around that might make you seem less virtuous than your current self you want to panic and say it should stay in the vault? But maybe once they get over their "hysterics", they will realize they are lucky to have that as retirement income. I can't even imagine how wrecked people who knew him are when I know I'm a walking disaster. I personally don't think any female in his life was ever on the same pedestal as Vanity. Everyone after was on equal footing. I'm sure Cat is like, "but he asked me to marry him too!"

Hat to say it...But The Vualt could be tied-up for a long time in court with warring family-members..

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Reply #68 posted 05/09/16 3:22pm

Linn4days

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BombFunk said:

prince

lol, Van is singling himself out by saying "Prince knew who the fake friends are" ... implying Van himself is not one of those fake friends.

prince

Anyway, here is Van himself telling how he feels about it ... (and rightly so, he fucking damn well should feel that way, like many others of Prince's inner circle of "friends" ... why the fuck did nobody of them do anything after the doctors saved his life only A FEW DAYS earlier? That should have been a fucking wake-up call to anyone close to Prince to DO SOMETHING, to ACT ... not just send him a fucking text or email or whatever asking "U ok?" WTF?!

prince

[Edited 5/9/16 8:05am]

[Edited 5/9/16 8:06am]



All the more reason why it's stupid to play coulda, shoulda, woulda when you have zero direct knowledge of what actually took place yet. It's possible that he knows a little more than you THINK you know.

When you cut-people out..for the right, and wrong reasons... They may still consider themselves to be your "Friends", but not next to you. He was a bosss to some of them too...So, many to call for a busy man, but...WHy was nobody from the favorite bandmembers on the elevator or that plane? Well, maybe Prince did not want them there.

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Reply #69 posted 05/09/16 3:40pm

irresistiblebi
tch666

Linn4days said:



irresistiblebitch666 said:


starkitty said:

not sure if this fits here, but, cat is dropping so much shade on fb.


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https://www.facebook.com/catherine.glover.37/posts/1089434337769473?pnref=story


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"Catherine Glover








20 hrs ·









It's so funny that me and Miko Miko and other people that were involved in Prince's life as band members and dancers are so irrelevant that's because these Fame seeking whores !try to make themselves Prince's business manager Chief Chef who ever ..."


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and some of her comments on that same post:


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Catherine Glover Oh I was engaged to prince!! Bullshit! Liar!!!


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Catherine Glover Not true!!!;


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but then her kids(?) posted using her account saying that cat is in the hospital, so, who knows.




It is very possible to use wifi from a hospital room so Cat could posting from her twitter account. I think Cat might be throwing some serious shade at Sheila. Hmmmmph.

Cat needs to rest, get better, and address that later...



SNIP OF4S

Cat is probably one of the few women in Prince's life who has admitted to not ever sleeping with Prince despite that ridiculous rumor going around that she had his kid. Cat has always respected Prince and I have no doubt in my mind that she wants to keep his legacy intact. I just need Cat"s kids to keep her away from any sort of media at the moment because this mess is not her fight at the moment. Cat needs to get better and then call out the bullshitters and backstabbers. Cat needs to get better and then help with distributing the contents of the vault if the judge orders the stuff in it to be released. The stress of this situation might have put that poor woman in the hospital for all we know.
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Reply #70 posted 05/09/16 4:00pm

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disbelief Cat is back home now. So let's not start predicting her death. Ffs I swear some of u are 12.
[Edited 5/9/16 16:01pm]
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #71 posted 05/09/16 4:04pm

babynoz

NinaB said:

disbelief Cat is back home now. So let's not start predicting her death. Ffs I swear some of u are 12. [Edited 5/9/16 16:01pm]



Looking at this forum lately I have to agree. lol People have run amok.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #72 posted 05/09/16 4:07pm

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babynoz said:



NinaB said:


disbelief Cat is back home now. So let's not start predicting her death. Ffs I swear some of u are 12. [Edited 5/9/16 16:01pm]



Looking at this forum lately I have to agree. lol People have run amok.


Jesus Christ! I ain't got nothing against the peep who joined us after the 21st, welcome true funk soldiers. BUT the dumb shit hs got 2 stop!
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #73 posted 05/09/16 4:18pm

irresistiblebi
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Lets not do any name calling. If someone does not know something, they are not dumb but rather misinformed. How was anyone supposed to know that Cat was home? How was anyone supposed what caused Cat to go into the hospital? You cant and you dont.

Some of you are cool while others are questionable at best.
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Reply #74 posted 05/09/16 4:18pm

babynoz

NinaB said:

babynoz said:



Looking at this forum lately I have to agree. lol People have run amok.

Jesus Christ! I ain't got nothing against the peep who joined us after the 21st, welcome true funk soldiers. BUT the dumb shit hs got 2 stop!



Exactly, nothing against the OP, glad to have them but it's getting very hard to get through the forum right now. At least this particular thread is not another duplicate.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #75 posted 05/09/16 4:23pm

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irresistiblebitch666 said:

Lets not do any name calling. If someone does not know something, they are not dumb but rather misinformed. How was anyone supposed to know that Cat was home? How was anyone supposed what caused Cat to go into the hospital? You cant and you dont.

Some of you are cool while others are questionable at best.

Young lady, u don't wanna start with me. I aint forgot the shit u wrote on the thread i got fuckin deleted. If the shoe fits.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #76 posted 05/09/16 4:24pm

babynoz

irresistiblebitch666 said:

Lets not do any name calling. If someone does not know something, they are not dumb but rather misinformed. How was anyone supposed to know that Cat was home? How was anyone supposed what caused Cat to go into the hospital? You cant and you dont. Some of you are cool while others are questionable at best.



Sorry but you just don't make such an irresponsible and reckless statement like this under any circumstances, period......wft?

"I hate to say it but Cat might be dying and this could be one of her deathbed confessions."

It is the very fact that you don't know that should prevent you from saying such a thing? eek

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #77 posted 05/09/16 4:26pm

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babynoz said:



NinaB said:


babynoz said:




Looking at this forum lately I have to agree. lol People have run amok.



Jesus Christ! I ain't got nothing against the peep who joined us after the 21st, welcome true funk soldiers. BUT the dumb shit hs got 2 stop!



Exactly, nothing against the OP, glad to have them but it's getting very hard to get through the forum right now. At least this particular thread is not another duplicate.


Yeah, there's that at least. Its getting increasingly irritating.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #78 posted 05/09/16 4:28pm

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babynoz said:



irresistiblebitch666 said:


Lets not do any name calling. If someone does not know something, they are not dumb but rather misinformed. How was anyone supposed to know that Cat was home? How was anyone supposed what caused Cat to go into the hospital? You cant and you dont. Some of you are cool while others are questionable at best.



Sorry but you just don't make such an irresponsible and reckless statement like this under any circumstances, period.....wft?

"I hate to say it but Cat might be dying and this could be one of her deathbed confessions."

It is the very fact that you don't know that should prevent you from saying such a thing? eek


12.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #79 posted 05/09/16 4:35pm

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2elijah said:

irresistiblebitch666 said:



There are people who laughed in Prince's face but cut him all down his back. Not every person who came out in defenae of Prince has been legitimately tore up on the loss. We are talking about a brilliant musician who just so happened to be difficult in business and relationships and when you are like that, you will gain lots of enemies. You will gain enemies in people that you never expected. Some of the people that you see coming out right now either want money from that estate or 15 minutes of fame. There is a lot of proverbial money in that vault if the contents of it get released and the phonies are waiting around to see what happens with it. If that vault is opened, albums could be released for years to come. A lot of those albums are protege projects. If that vault is ordered to be destroyed, the mood of everything changes. Some of those people that were in Prince's inner circle who claim to be so torn up about his passing will start to gossip about him and spread rumors and even write salacious books. I would love to know who has already started to write a nasty memoir about Prince because they are coming and it will be from people that man trusted. The fate of the vault changes a lot basically. We talking about money here and aint a damn thing funny.


Agree with some of what you're saying. I am surprised that some other folks who were closest to him, in the past 5 or 10'years, other than Van and Tamron, who haven't come out yet, to squash some of the rumors about his health or what may have contributed to his passing, that's been all over newspapers and the media.

It makes one wonder if what's in that vault should be teleased at all. Just think of the fights/lawsuits that may ensue, over the rights of some of that music content, some former band members/protégés/others may try to lay claim to, that some of them may have worked with him on, in the past.

Even though one of his brothers stated that the fans want to hear the music, I don't really think he understands the chaos that may follow, from many who worked with him, if any of that music is released, and may be given/divided among Prince's rightful heirs. I could see some of Prince's family members possibly being approached by music industry execs and or harassed/manipulated from others who may want specific music content from them. As much as fans would like to see that vault material released, you can bet, if released it will be exploited one way or the other, and his legacy destroyed.

I think whichever family member gets ownership of his vault material, should be very careful and really think it through thoroughly, before deciding to release it or all the heirs should just band together, and decide to never release any of it.

At the end of the day, it's not the fans who will be exploited/manipulated, it will be the owners of Prince's vault material/estate who will probably fall prey to the vultures waiting in the winds, to get their hands on it. I can't see his heirs having any peace with the pressure that will follow them, over his estate/primarily the vault content, no matter which one of them gets the rights to it. Sorry for the long post, just had to get that out.
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If musicians played on recordings they should be paid. Now that we got that out of the way. These recordings will ultimately make the most money for Prince's family members. They should decide to release it or not given that Prince didn't leave a will because he likely believed he would live forever. But ultimately Prince's family, they have the most to gain or lose. Prince's musical legacy will never be tarnished but the press has already tarnished him as a person making him into a drug abuser. Though that is debatable also public perception means everything but as far as musical genius that is set in stone since mid 80s.
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Reply #80 posted 05/09/16 4:37pm

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starkitty said:

PS - um, weren't cat and sheila tight on those tours? cat needs to chill.

If that was even directed at sheila e.
There are women coming out saying they were with Prince, and have his baby now

But according to Cat, Sheila had jealousy issues, and wasn't always so nice to her.
I guess seeing Prince & Cat interacting more on tour and in sexual situations was a bit too much

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Reply #81 posted 05/09/16 4:44pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



starkitty said:


PS - um, weren't cat and sheila tight on those tours? cat needs to chill.




If that was even directed at sheila e.
There are women coming out saying they were with Prince, and have his baby now



But according to Cat, Sheila had jealousy issues, and wasn't always so nice to her.
I guess seeing Prince & Cat interacting more on tour and in sexual situations was a bit too much




Correct. Sheila herself has spoke on how she wasn't always the nicest back then.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #82 posted 05/09/16 4:53pm

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babynoz said:



BombFunk said:


Since Van seems to be one of Prince's closest friends ...


prince


Where the fuck was Van on Prince's lonely last night, just days after Prince's life already had to be saved for the first time with a save shot after the emergency landing? Even Prince cannot escape death twice in a row dude! That first time of saving his life should have been a fucking wake-up call for his fucking inner circle! But no, they all just left Prince alone, nothing changed. Did Van not realize it's not a good idea to leave Prince all alone by himself right after his life was already saved ONCE because of some medical urgent situation? (flu my ass!)


prince


Why did Van not send someone over (nurse, doctor, personal assistent, friend, family member etc) to make 100% sure Prince was alright or to just keep an eye out? No matter what Prince wanted, just sleep on the kitchen floor and stay out of his way but just be there!


prince


Why was there no (portable) emergency GPS system in place so Prince could press a button in case of an emergency (medical/robbery/kidnap attempt etc) and help would race to his location asap!? He was worth millions ffs. Not sure Prince had a cellphone, I think I read he did not have one which makes such a system even more important!


prince


What a mess ... and now Van is waiting for what exactly?







Coulda, shoulda, woulda..... rolleyes

Make a list of everybody YOU think should have done something....don't just single out one person.

How about starting with people who actually worked in the building/lived in Minneapolis, etc. Why would they need Van to tell them what to do if they were already there up close and personal?

I wish he hadn't been left alone either but I'm not going to sit here and single out individual people to lash out at.

Get. Over. Yourself.



As a spiritual human, I'm happy Prince was likely left on his own at Paisley Park many nights working on music. There is something comforting that he was able to be on his own and not have someone breathing down his neck. What is sad is the timing here with the OD on the plane. Likely Van Jones had no clue what happened and thought he strictly had the flu or whatever story Prince's camp was spinning. Likely he was clueless. Likely many associates were clueless from the looks of social media.
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Reply #83 posted 05/09/16 5:03pm

starkitty

OldFriends4Sale said:

starkitty said:

PS - um, weren't cat and sheila tight on those tours? cat needs to chill.

If that was even directed at sheila e.
There are women coming out saying they were with Prince, and have his baby now

But according to Cat, Sheila had jealousy issues, and wasn't always so nice to her.
I guess seeing Prince & Cat interacting more on tour and in sexual situations was a bit too much

well, sheila's the only one i've seen speaking publically as a representative and saying she was engaged to him (or being referred to as his fiancee).

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Reply #84 posted 05/09/16 5:34pm

FUNKNROLL

babynoz said:



endiadj said:


babynoz said:

Seeing what information leaks out helps to determine the source of the leak sometimes. Someone else mentioned claims being made to the estate. It isn't really that hard to figure out why they're waiting to see what crawls out of the woodwork.



but why are they waiting. to say, ah ha, gotcha? why? what's the point?



It isn't "gotcha".....come on, disbelief

Shouldn't anyone trying to protect his legacy know who they are protecting it from? If stuff is leaking or bogus claims are being made then lawsuits, injunctions or other punitive measures may need to happen. I need to remind people again that this is an open probate case.

This really isn't hard to figure out.



Help a friend out? I'm not making the connection between the tabloids campaigning Prince died from AIDS, former protégées speaking out to dispel the assertion, is that protégée a real/phony friend, and said person making claims against the estate.

Speculating: the will exists, knowledge of its existence is under a gag order because it stipulates anybody who speaks up doesn't get a dime? That would be some next level passive aggression.
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Reply #85 posted 05/09/16 6:08pm

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endiadj said:

babynoz said:

Seeing what information leaks out helps to determine the source of the leak sometimes. Someone else mentioned claims being made to the estate. It isn't really that hard to figure out why they're waiting to see what crawls out of the woodwork.

but why are they waiting. to say, ah ha, gotcha? why? what's the point?

You misunderstood what he was saying.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #86 posted 05/09/16 6:33pm

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thedance said:

never heard about a Van Jones b4... question eek

(who is he to speak like that ?)

2012 was when Van first spoke about their working together, but before that you wouldnt have had any reason to know of their friendship and working relationship because Prince in the JW phase of his life didn't advertise his giving or philanthropy. And I think the only reason they came public with that then was because the YesWeCode project they created, for it to become sustainable needed to get its name out in the public and Van by himself couldn't do that.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #87 posted 05/09/16 6:34pm

funksterr

I'm sure to Prince a fake friend would be anyone who didn't kiss his azz relentlessly. So there is that.

One of the things I have noticed is all the people who describe their business and networking relationships with Prince as personal friendships. Van Jones and Tavis Smiley are a couple of examples. It clearly isn't the case because their "memories" are of receiving Prince's money and jumping when Prince says jump.

Tamron Hall, intrepid MSNBC reporter, spoke to Prince all day everyday and had no idea he was in serious condition beyong a cold or the flu. She had the story of the decade on the phone for hours at a time, but she never saw through the flattery to ask herself, "What's up with Prince that he's calling the cable news host to this level?". Maybe it's a gender thing, but if say Rhianna starts texting and calling the shit out of Lester Holt, he probably is going to think something is not the fck right here.

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Reply #88 posted 05/09/16 6:40pm

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Like I said in the next 18 months we are all gonna see who he "real" friends were, depending on whether their "Prince" projects get the green light from the estate. At the moment everyone who spent at least 5 mins with him are selling their stories to the press (chump change at the moment). The real money will come from tell-all books etc, saw this shit happen to MJ, Whitney etc Just wait and see. I have the memory of an elephant when it comes to this stuff nod

[Edited 5/9/16 18:41pm]

[Edited 5/9/16 18:46pm]

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #89 posted 05/09/16 6:43pm

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funksterr said:

I'm sure to Prince a fake friend would be anyone who didn't kiss his azz relentlessly. So there is that.

One of the things I have noticed is all the people who describe their business and networking relationships with Prince as personal friendships. Van Jones and Tavis Smiley are a couple of examples. It clearly isn't the case because their "memories" are of receiving Prince's money and jumping when Prince says jump.

Tamron Hall, intrepid MSNBC reporter, spoke to Prince all day everyday and had no idea he was in serious condition beyong a cold or the flu. She had the story of the decade on the phone for hours at a time, but she never saw through the flattery to ask herself, "What's up with Prince that he's calling the cable news host to this level?". Maybe it's a gender thing, but if say Rhianna starts texting and calling the shit out of Lester Holt, he probably is going to think something is not the fck right here.




yeah i heard the tamron tribute of sorts, but it seemed to be mostly about HER and how much she spoke with him, like she had to prove she knew him. there was very little about his kindness, etc. in stark contrast to van jones who spoke almost exclusively and profusely about his philanthropy. prince was a news junkie and apparently liked to talk to tamron about such things, but i am not sure how much they were friends. i guess that is up to the two of them (now one) to define. but she seemed desperate to prove they were friends by mentioning how frequently they spoke. i can't help but notice that damaris and others did not feel compelled to prove their friendship to prince, it just was. whatever. maybe its helping her with her grief.

"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta bawl
"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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