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PrintableThe thing with "closest friends" has got to stop. Prince had a circle of people he spoke to, Van Jones, Tavis, and a few others, but let me repeat SPOKE too, we talk about PRINCE like he was constantly out with friends, I don't see that side of PRINCE. I see the fact of how this man was his music and his performances but outside of the gigs and the aftershows, he was closed off to many people, sure he'd speak but I don't see Prince chilling with Van Jones going to dinner etc...
As for what was ailing PRINCE, again he is a 57 year old man, a very private man. Yes this hip issue was known to some, more serious to others, BUT at the end of the day Prince lives his life. He spent alot of time alone and in the end died alone, no family, wife or kids. We still don't know or may never know the real situation, maybe Prince knew he was dieing, maybe he had an illness other than the flu, maybe it was pain medication mixed with something he was given for the flu or what he had. But i think we can all agree that between 2010-2014 when there really was no new music, something was going on with him, then re-signing with his original label after all that time? I just feel Prince dieing was a shock to everyone but him. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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irresistiblebitch666 said: clairew1975 said:
I don't understand it either, what does he mean "we are waiting to see who is who?" Why? There are people who laughed in Prince's face but cut him all down his back. Not every person who came out in defenae of Prince has been legitimately tore up on the loss. We are talking about a brilliant musician who just so happened to be difficult in business and relationships and when you are like that, you will gain lots of enemies. You will gain enemies in people that you never expected. Some of the people that you see coming out right now either want money from that estate or 15 minutes of fame. There is a lot of proverbial money in that vault if the contents of it get released and the phonies are waiting around to see what happens with it. If that vault is opened, albums could be released for years to come. A lot of those albums are protege projects. If that vault is ordered to be destroyed, the mood of everything changes. Some of those people that were in Prince's inner circle who claim to be so torn up about his passing will start to gossip about him and spread rumors and even write salacious books. I would love to know who has already started to write a nasty memoir about Prince because they are coming and it will be from people that man trusted. The fate of the vault changes a lot basically. We talking about money here and aint a damn thing funny. Well, if these were his "friends" I wouldn't have liked to be in his shoes. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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never heard about a Van Jones b4... Prince 4Ever.  | |
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Cat has been posting this type of stuff from day one. She is highly suspicious of quite a few things going on. Because of their half-baked mistakes, we get ice cream, no cake; all lies, no truth; is it fair to Kill the YOUTH ~~ Party Up | |
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destinyc1 said:
Damn this made me cry I always thought the Prince and Sheila were engaged bit was suspect. I swear I remember an interview where she insisted they were just really good friends. Then it turned into this weird thing once she had a book to sell. Don't get me wrong I love Sheila E but ... Eh ?? Sheila is really religious as I recall and I think so is Tyka. I worry that will cloud decisions made about vault stuff. Why is it ok to say whatever you want when the book is 100% yours but when something is hanging around that might make you seem less virtuous than your current self you want to panic and say it should stay in the vault? But maybe once they get over their "hysterics", they will realize they are lucky to have that as retirement income. I can't even imagine how wrecked people who knew him are when I know I'm a walking disaster. I personally don't think any female in his life was ever on the same pedestal as Vanity. Everyone after was on equal footing. I'm sure Cat is like, "but he asked me to marry him too!" Surprise, surprise.
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Also lets mention how 99.9% of the industry media etc...did NOT support him when the name change happened or when he battled WB, no one was in his corner unless of course it was to make fun of him "symbol" "Squiggle" "TAFKAP" etc...The "Friends" real or not seemed to reappear in his corner in 2004 with the Hall of Fame, the tour and the grammy show. Where were the real friends 1993 onward? "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Didn't Prince release a song called Fake Friends in 2010 or something? | |
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Confusion..... Prince 4Ever. | |
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lastdecember said: Also lets mention how 99.9% of the industry media etc...did NOT support him when the name change happened or when he battled WB, no one was in his corner unless of course it was to make fun of him "symbol" "Squiggle" "TAFKAP" etc...The "Friends" real or not seemed to reappear in his corner in 2004 with the Hall of Fame, the tour and the grammy show. Where were the real friends 1993 onward? Quite frankly, not being in his corner for most of that would have been a better example of true friendship. |
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I have been a Prince fan Since 1982. I had never heard of this dude until Prince died. If I was a personal friend of Prince's I am not sure if I could speak about him publicly. It would be heart breaking. | |
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He means us. We were friends--we were involved with the music. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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McD said: lastdecember said: Also lets mention how 99.9% of the industry media etc...did NOT support him when the name change happened or when he battled WB, no one was in his corner unless of course it was to make fun of him "symbol" "Squiggle" "TAFKAP" etc...The "Friends" real or not seemed to reappear in his corner in 2004 with the Hall of Fame, the tour and the grammy show. Where were the real friends 1993 onward? Quite frankly, not being in his corner for most of that would have been a better example of true friendship. why? this was obviously something truly important to him. people who stick by you when everyone else is calling you crazy is special. | |
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I think he was tweeting about Prince's actual friends, those that were around him. | |
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Yes, 100% this .. Van was referring to Prince's actual "friends".  Forever changed 
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Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Well,it looks like people are getting more and more surprised everyday.I believe van.If you look online its a few pics of them.He showed true emotion,he took responsibility.He said he wasn't there if you didn't need him but,was there if you did.He is going through his emotions.I had friendships of many years but,some of my true friends i've only known since 2007.And they prob know more about me.People tend to move on and thats what prince did according to dr f if im not mistaken.So maybe what others knew about him in the 80's and 90 wasn't him anymore.He seemed to want something deeper prob bored with yes men. | |
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thedance said: Confusion..... The media and The Press. Certain people who havent talked to Prince in decades that suddenly have re-appeared to get their 15 minutes and want a piece of the fortune. Prince shook them backstabbing muthafuckas by not having a will and so they are waiting on the fate of the vault. Prince knew the fans loved him. Prince knew the fans would never turn on him. Even when Prince had his dark moments and we wanted to ring his neck for them, we still stood by him and loved him. | |
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Honestly, at this point I'm skeptical of any person who claims they have authority to claim what Prince thought about 'this person or that subject'...Maybe my opinion of some people will change as time goes by. | |
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For those saying why weren't they there DIDN'T YOU READ WHERE THE CHEF WAS TOLD TO LEAVE IT AND GO? Sounds to me like he wanted to be alone...So i guess you would of said nope im staying..Like layne staley's mom said after layne was found dead after 2 weeks in his apartment.He wanted left alone so she left him alone.You have to want help and he did if the reports are true.That dr or dr's son coming over the next morning. | |
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I'm sorry but who is this Van Jones, I don't seem to remember them being 'best friends' when he was alive! | |
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Prince definitely knew how much his fans loved him......100%!!! | |
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That, in my opinion, is a good thing and makes him more credible in my eyes than certain other people. And he was the first one after Prince´s death who mourned Prince as a person and a friend, not just a brilliant musician like most other folks did. And...he admitted to feeling guilty because he wasn´t there when Prince needed him. He showed true emotions and couldn´t stop crying and was in tears while on TV. Some here say that if he was truly Prince´s close friend he wouldn´t have been able to go on TV the next day but he did..and cried his eyes out. He is not an entertainer and that´s why I never expected him to be in the spotlight in the first place while Prince was alive. I find him very trustworthy, genuine and credible so far. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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^ Yes ok, I hear you but i think making those comments about false friends makes himself sound rather self important and that comment he made seems rather inflammatory at this current time.
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When the cat's away...my goodness, I wouldn't want anyone speaking 4 me when I'm not here, least of all people who've never even met me. I doubt very much Cat is referring 2 Sheila, from all accounts it appears they have been on good terms 4 yrs. All this speculation & straight out fantasy on P's personal life is very tedious, not 2 mention juvenile. God knows what's going 2 come out of people's mouths in the future. Spose I better get used 2 it. Damn P! no will! You'll remain a mystery & they'll be debating 4 yrs 2 come. "We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15 | |
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People asking 'who is Van Jones?', watch his actual interviews and he says who he is and how he knows Prince. Hundalasiliah! |
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irresistiblebitch666 said: clairew1975 said:
I don't understand it either, what does he mean "we are waiting to see who is who?" Why? There are people who laughed in Prince's face but cut him all down his back. Not every person who came out in defenae of Prince has been legitimately tore up on the loss. We are talking about a brilliant musician who just so happened to be difficult in business and relationships and when you are like that, you will gain lots of enemies. You will gain enemies in people that you never expected. Some of the people that you see coming out right now either want money from that estate or 15 minutes of fame. There is a lot of proverbial money in that vault if the contents of it get released and the phonies are waiting around to see what happens with it. If that vault is opened, albums could be released for years to come. A lot of those albums are protege projects. If that vault is ordered to be destroyed, the mood of everything changes. Some of those people that were in Prince's inner circle who claim to be so torn up about his passing will start to gossip about him and spread rumors and even write salacious books. I would love to know who has already started to write a nasty memoir about Prince because they are coming and it will be from people that man trusted. The fate of the vault changes a lot basically. We talking about money here and aint a damn thing funny. Agree with some of what you're saying. I am surprised that some other folks who were closest to him, in the past 5 or 10'years, other than Van and Tamron, who haven't come out yet, to squash some of the rumors about his health or what may have contributed to his passing, that's been all over newspapers and the media. It makes one wonder if what's in that vault should be teleased at all. Just think of the fights/lawsuits that may ensue, over the rights of some of that music content, some former band members/protégés/others may try to lay claim to, that some of them may have worked with him on, in the past. Even though one of his brothers stated that the fans want to hear the music, I don't really think he understands the chaos that may follow, from many who worked with him, if any of that music is released, and may be given/divided among Prince's rightful heirs. I could see some of Prince's family members possibly being approached by music industry execs and or harassed/manipulated from others who may want specific music content from them. As much as fans would like to see that vault material released, you can bet, if released it will be exploited one way or the other, and his legacy destroyed. I think whichever family member gets ownership of his vault material, should be very careful and really think it through thoroughly, before deciding to release it or all the heirs should just band together, and decide to never release any of it. At the end of the day, it's not the fans who will be exploited/manipulated, it will be the owners of Prince's vault material/estate who will probably fall prey to the vultures waiting in the winds, to get their hands on it. I can't see his heirs having any peace with the pressure that will follow them, over his estate/primarily the vault content, no matter which one of them gets the rights to it. Sorry for the long post, just had to get that out. [Edited 5/9/16 11:12am] | |
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NinaB said: When the cat's away...my goodness, I wouldn't want anyone speaking 4 me when I'm not here, least of all people who've never even met me. I doubt very much Cat is referring 2 Sheila, from all accounts it appears they have been on good terms 4 yrs. All this speculation & straight out fantasy on P's personal life is very tedious, not 2 mention juvenile. God knows what's going 2 come out of people's mouths in the future. Spose I better get used 2 it. Damn P! no will! You'll remain a mystery & they'll be debating 4 yrs 2 come. Exactly, and it's a shame there hasn't been one found yet. | |
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Well you can't keep saying no one did anything to help Prince when a situation happened the first time (airplane). Prin kept himself private and told no one. PRINCE said he was OK afterwards. He could have told anyone if he chose to but he didn't. Besides no one knows whether he did or didn't and if they knew or didn't know. NO ONE KNOWS. "I don't make the rules. I just play" | |
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