He'll get over it.
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Dreamer, Dear Mr. Man, Family Name and many others deal with this topic. | |
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you should re-read my posts, which you obviously didn't read before. I never asked you any questions outside of asking if you understood something, as it's obvious you'd have no answers to provide. And I didn't complain about "devolution", I stated that your posts devolved into the last one I responded to. That's not a complaint, it was a statement. | |
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what do you mean? Prince has always had some degree of commentary in his music. We are talking about 3 recent comments this year where he connects his continued issues with the Music Industry with recent (racial/cop) insidents
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I've lost interest to be honest...I can't keep repeating myself. You haven't listened to a word I've said. If you had, you wouldn't need to send out clueless missives asking why you haven't been answered. The only thing left to do is make fun of you... | |
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I invite all of you to post on Politics and Religion threads. We have lots of fun debating issues there. Yes, I usually win. haha All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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then stop replying. you can't keep repeating yourself as you haven't said anything. | |
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I love wannabe moderators. They're kinda like reserve police officers, in a way. | |
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On a forum? Another concept that seems to have escaped you. | |
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lol you said you lost interest and that you can't keep repeating yourself, but here you are. I just wanted to see if you'd reply again. | |
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What 'illusions'? Do you think that my claim that black Americans aren't treated right is just an 'illusion'? If so, then whatever. I've fought with you before, and you're extremely close-minded and never answer questions, instead preferring to add snide remarks. Maybe do, just not like did before | |
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*he. Maybe do, just not like did before | |
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forreal.. Maybe do, just not like did before | |
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Lol this guy is unbelievable. He's not worth debating with because all he does is try and keep the argument alive even if it's over, going as much as possible, responding no matter what. He seems incapable of understanding simple statements. [Edited 9/4/15 13:15pm] Maybe do, just not like did before | |
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Well, I haven't lost interested in making fun of you. That'll never happen. | |
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How's your comprehension these days? Your belief in a celestial dictator is the illusion I'm refering to. Conflating your illusion with the plight of black Americans seems to be pushing it a bit much don't you think? | |
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Yeah, I know. I'm having the same issues with him as well. | |
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Sorry, the name CharismaDove sounds very feminine. | |
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Maybe, but I really don't understand how bringing up 'police were created to protect the property of white folks' is of any relevancy to sorting out the issue that America faces right now. I don't see how it is promting change?? And to be fair I don't think using a statement that has clearly offended/alienated some of his fans here is going to prompt them to want to change it either. You don't change situations like this by vilifying (even subtly) a whole race of people. This is why I dislike identity based politics, I feel it just paints people with too broad of a brush rather than viewing them as a complex set of individuals. | |
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thesoulbrother said: Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Prince is full of shit. He is always talking about linking contracts to slavery and it pisses me off each and everytime he does that. I think what people fail to grasp is that back in 1993, Prince was given a 7-year, $100 million deal. With that kind of money Prince had the potential to do some wonderful and amazing things. Not to mention, in 1985 he had his own label, Paisley Park. Michael Jackson, the number one entertainer in the world, didn't have his own label in 1985. Instead of Prince using the leverage and the tools (and the money) that he had to bless the music world with some real talent and some real music, he released bullshit from people like Dale Bozzio and Carmen Electra.
So he gets "free" and changes his name to that ridiculous symbol but scrawls "slave" on his face and becomes militant. Get the fuck outta here, man. Now all of a sudden you black? For the record I have never seen Prince with a black woman as a love interest in any of his videos, with the exception of Troy Beyer in Three Chains O' Gold but who the fuck saw it? Prince again raised all this commotion about wanting to "free the music" only to put out schlock like Newpower Soul and Larry Graham's forgettable GCS2000. Again, he had the power to be so far ahead of the game with his 1-800-NEW-FUNK and his NPG Music Club sites but he dropped the ball. He self-sabotaged his own shit before it even had a chance to grow and catch on. Everytime Prince innovated something like selling a concert ticket with a CD or selling his own singles on his site, he walked away from it. That's his own undoing.
I just find it laughable that he wants to compare record labels and contracts to slavery but yet The Time and The Family couldn't even use their own name. Regardless of whatever legal situations that entails, two of his most popular groups have to change their names just so they can go out and perform. Now what kind of sense does that make? You're gonna deny your own artists the right to use their name so they can make a living? But you wanna talk slavery? Negro please.
As far as I'm concerned, it makes no difference is he releases this album on Tidal, Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, the traditional way, or if he gives this motherfucker away. It won't mean jack shit if it's not good. Plectrumelectrum did 33,000 copies and Art Official Age did 66,000 which equals wood and double wood respectively. Jocking Jay Z will not make the masses flock to Tidal to buy his new album. Furthermore, saying silly shit in the press before the release of an album to sound pseudo-intellectual won't do any good either. The bottom line is Prince is one bitter motherfucker still trying to hold on to what little relevancy he has left in a world that passed him by years ago. This is the same artist who fought the record label tooth and nail to get his masters and now that he has them?
Don't worry. I'll wait. Love Sign, Diamonds And Pearls, Black Sweat What? | |
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Wow...you really broke it down! Excellent post! | |
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bashraka said:
No. I just found it interesting for Prince to make a statement like that in a newspaper where he is promoting a new album. Usually celebrities are tight-lipped about making comments on heavy topics like the historical White ownership of public entities like law enforcement and educational instititionsat the expense of African-Americans because they fear offending potential consumers. I have more respect for Prince because of it. In other words, what you mean is 'institutional racism'. Unfortunately that topic is pretty difficult for many to express or discuss publically, not just by artists/celebs, without some type of backlash, because some often take that topic the wrong way. [Edited 9/4/15 17:04pm] | |
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he's right about that the whole USA is racist and it was created out of racist and evil system that still stands. | |
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You really need to let things go. I believe in God. Why the FUCK is that eating at you so badly? Just get over it, bro. If you say God's an illusion, cool. I surrender, you win. Now please for heaven's sake shut the fuck up about it. I thought you were over it after the other thread got locked. And btw, it has nothing to do with the plight of Black Americans, which you cannot deny is REAL. [Edited 9/4/15 15:10pm] [Edited 9/4/15 15:12pm] Maybe do, just not like did before | |
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Actually, it was about you and how you refuse to stop rehashing old shit for no reason and arguing simply for the sake of arguing. Maybe do, just not like did before | |
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No problem, now you know Maybe do, just not like did before | |
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I'm getting a weird feeling that this thread is going nowhere. Maybe it was something I ate? "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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If Prince is right, what's wrong with that? Stop the thieves! | |
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[Edited 9/4/15 15:27pm] Maybe do, just not like did before | |
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iZsaZsa said: thesoulbrother said: Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Prince is full of shit. He is always talking about linking contracts to slavery and it pisses me off each and everytime he does that. I think what people fail to grasp is that back in 1993, Prince was given a 7-year, $100 million deal. With that kind of money Prince had the potential to do some wonderful and amazing things. Not to mention, in 1985 he had his own label, Paisley Park. Michael Jackson, the number one entertainer in the world, didn't have his own label in 1985. Instead of Prince using the leverage and the tools (and the money) that he had to bless the music world with some real talent and some real music, he released bullshit from people like Dale Bozzio and Carmen Electra.
So he gets "free" and changes his name to that ridiculous symbol but scrawls "slave" on his face and becomes militant. Get the fuck outta here, man. Now all of a sudden you black? For the record I have never seen Prince with a black woman as a love interest in any of his videos, with the exception of Troy Beyer in Three Chains O' Gold but who the fuck saw it? Prince again raised all this commotion about wanting to "free the music" only to put out schlock like Newpower Soul and Larry Graham's forgettable GCS2000. Again, he had the power to be so far ahead of the game with his 1-800-NEW-FUNK and his NPG Music Club sites but he dropped the ball. He self-sabotaged his own shit before it even had a chance to grow and catch on. Everytime Prince innovated something like selling a concert ticket with a CD or selling his own singles on his site, he walked away from it. That's his own undoing.
I just find it laughable that he wants to compare record labels and contracts to slavery but yet The Time and The Family couldn't even use their own name. Regardless of whatever legal situations that entails, two of his most popular groups have to change their names just so they can go out and perform. Now what kind of sense does that make? You're gonna deny your own artists the right to use their name so they can make a living? But you wanna talk slavery? Negro please.
As far as I'm concerned, it makes no difference is he releases this album on Tidal, Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, the traditional way, or if he gives this motherfucker away. It won't mean jack shit if it's not good. Plectrumelectrum did 33,000 copies and Art Official Age did 66,000 which equals wood and double wood respectively. Jocking Jay Z will not make the masses flock to Tidal to buy his new album. Furthermore, saying silly shit in the press before the release of an album to sound pseudo-intellectual won't do any good either. The bottom line is Prince is one bitter motherfucker still trying to hold on to what little relevancy he has left in a world that passed him by years ago. This is the same artist who fought the record label tooth and nail to get his masters and now that he has them?
Don't worry. I'll wait. Love Sign, Diamonds And Pearls, Black Sweat Chelsea Rodgers is playing in the background. What? | |
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