OldFriends4Sale said:

babynoz said:

First Blackandrising asked about the reference for the article that you posted three times in this thread. I also asked for a source or link for the same article. Are you going to source your post or continue baiting?

I posted the link for Blackandrising in reply 97 on page 4

That was all I was asking you about in the first place. I initially asked if you had posted a source yet and if you did then all you had to do was say so.

There was no need to comment on an unrelated exchange I had with another member that had already been settled to our mutual satisfaction.

bashraka said:

“(Fans) care about black-owned, don’t they? Go over (to other services) if you want. Any sort of ownership we have is really important,” he says about Tidal and its competition. “When you own your own community, you pay for your police department. Police were created to protect property of white folks. They were originally slave catchers. … When you get your own studio, now what are (labels) going to provide for you?”

http://www.usatoday.com/s.../71597178/

It's like deja vu when Prince went on Tavis Smiley in 2009 and said that "white folks" need to watch the State Of The Black Union Address so they can understand black people.

He's making a point about black ownership of businesses, and he's right. He's making a loose analogy regarding the police. It's about time more black celebrities got their hands dirty and put their money, celebrity and time into ownership in the black community....(even tho tidal is a turd and will sink)

I'm white, if that matters at all, and I grew up in the black community where I was the minority. The black community in the usa is marginalized, terrorized and not treated equally on an institutional level, state level, federal level in the usa. I've seen all kinds of abuses up close and personal - it doesnt matter what the factual origins of the development of police forces were, what matters is how black americans experienced them, and they experienced policing in the form of slave catching....and this is why white people keep missing the mark...

black people experience america differently than white people do....white people keep refusing to acknowledge the fundamental difference in how black americans experience law enforcement, and other institutions in the usa.

terrig said:

bashraka said:

“(Fans) care about black-owned, don’t they? Go over (to other services) if you want. Any sort of ownership we have is really important,” he says about Tidal and its competition. “When you own your own community, you pay for your police department. Police were created to protect property of white folks. They were originally slave catchers. … When you get your own studio, now what are (labels) going to provide for you?”

http://www.usatoday.com/s.../71597178/

It's like deja vu when Prince went on Tavis Smiley in 2009 and said that "white folks" need to watch the State Of The Black Union Address so they can understand black people.

He's making a point about black ownership of businesses, and he's right. He's making a loose analogy regarding the police. It's about time more black celebrities got their hands dirty and put their money, celebrity and time into ownership in the black community....(even tho tidal is a turd and will sink)

I'm white, if that matters at all, and I grew up in the black community where I was the minority. The black community in the usa is marginalized, terrorized and not treated equally on an institutional level, state level, federal level in the usa. I've seen all kinds of abuses up close and personal - it doesnt matter what the factual origins of the development of police forces were, what matters is how black americans experienced them, and they experienced policing in the form of slave catching....and this is why white people keep missing the mark...

black people experience america differently than white people do....white people keep refusing to acknowledge the fundamental difference in how black americans experience law enforcement, and other institutions in the usa.

Thanks for this post.

People talk about Prince being in Princeworld, but it can be very similar to a white person not at all relating to a black person's experience - and completely not understanding it.

murph said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Homie? lol haven't heard that one in while
Naw Murph, I'm saying if it was about that we would have had it in P&R, but it is about Prince's promotional endevours with Tidal

Gotcha. Im just trying to point out the musical connection of the Midget's quote that set off this clusterfuck thread. Lol

Well since it's apparently all well and good in this clusterfuck thread to jump into other people's exchanges around here, I will prevail upon you to edit the midget slur from your post if you don't mind?

ON TOPIC, I recall seeing the PBS story you mentioned but I don't remember the title so I can't link to it. Do you remember?

pdiddy2011 said:

terrig said:

He's making a point about black ownership of businesses, and he's right. He's making a loose analogy regarding the police. It's about time more black celebrities got their hands dirty and put their money, celebrity and time into ownership in the black community....(even tho tidal is a turd and will sink)

I'm white, if that matters at all, and I grew up in the black community where I was the minority. The black community in the usa is marginalized, terrorized and not treated equally on an institutional level, state level, federal level in the usa. I've seen all kinds of abuses up close and personal - it doesnt matter what the factual origins of the development of police forces were, what matters is how black americans experienced them, and they experienced policing in the form of slave catching....and this is why white people keep missing the mark...

black people experience america differently than white people do....white people keep refusing to acknowledge the fundamental difference in how black americans experience law enforcement, and other institutions in the usa.

Thanks for this post.

People talk about Prince being in Princeworld, but it can be very similar to a white person not at all relating to a black person's experience - and completely not understanding it.

Indeed.

babynoz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I posted the link for Blackandrising in reply 97 on page 4

That was all I was asking you about in the first place. I initially asked if you had posted a source yet and if you did then all you had to do was say so.

There was no need to comment on an unrelated exchange I had with another member that had already been settled to our mutual satisfaction.

Babynoz we are now 9 pages in. I never read or saw a post by you asking this. And my reply with the link came before you asked. There was about 3-4 hours after I posted it that i was not on the Org. I came back on for a min posted something and was off again until this morning. And like most of us I did not scan throught the multiple posts since then. I believe when I got back onto this thread it was page 7 or 8 today. But again I replied to BlackandRising not long after he/she asked.

.

And that unrelated exchange was not directed @ you intentionally. I was more tongue in check messing around. Nothing intentional.
I don't dispise you and don't have the energy or reason to hate you, my lady.

OldFriends4Sale said:

babynoz said:

That was all I was asking you about in the first place. I initially asked if you had posted a source yet and if you did then all you had to do was say so.

There was no need to comment on an unrelated exchange I had with another member that had already been settled to our mutual satisfaction.

Babynoz we are now 9 pages in. I never read or saw a post by you asking this. And my reply with the link came before you asked. There was about 3-4 hours after I posted it that i was not on the Org. I came back on for a min posted something and was off again until this morning. And like most of us I did not scan throught the multiple posts since then. I believe when I got back onto this thread it was page 7 or 8 today. But again I replied to BlackandRising not long after he/she asked.

.

And that unrelated exchange was not directed @ you intentionally. I was more tongue in check messing around. Nothing intentional.
I don't dispise you and don't have the energy or reason to hate you, my lady.

Just like you did not see my question I did not see the link...that's why I asked. Thanks for answering.

murph said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Homie? lol haven't heard that one in while
Naw Murph, I'm saying if it was about that we would have had it in P&R, but it is about Prince's promotional endevours with Tidal

Gotcha. Im just trying to point out the musical connection of the Midget's quote that set off this clusterfuck thread. Lol

I think what might be cool, when a thread like this happens. Because it always goes the same way and runs its course, is if we create a topic that keeps us on 'Prince' and what is actually happening here which is really about the music, his deal with Tidal etc

and then create a topic in P&R highlighting the statement for discussion about 'Police were created...'

and put the link in the opening statement.

So we can keep, as much as possible, an on topic thread that doesn't get so muddled down.

I know Prince has the talent and genius to still blow us away after all of these years. But his state of mind seems to be what has been his limiter. Mentally he does not seem to be in a good place. He seems to be full of anger and negativity (the state of music, religion, money, real music by real musicicans, get off my lawn..)while being passive agressive over it.

He does not sound very christian-y about how he goes about things. Unless you consider the Westboro Babtist Church the benchmark of christianity.

It's disappointing to hear about Prince race-baiting to get attention in hopes of getting the public's eye on his album. Instead of making ignorant remarks like such that makes him look like a sheep to the mass-media; he should actually put work into promoting his album. He's not "willing to do the work" here. He's being lazy. And if his music isn't important enough to actually put a decent amount of time into promoting it, then he should just stop releasing new music. And release remasters. Because he's at the point in his career, even for him, that he has just recorded so much in his lifetime, that his creativity isn't flowing like it did in the 80s. It isn't even flowing like it was in the 90s, and the 2000s. It's sad but that's the reality of the situation. I like that he brought in a co-producer, I guess that helps him though. But he still shouldn't be lazy about this stuff. If music still matters to him; if albums still matter to him then he should act like it does and stop making himself look like a fool. His promotion makes sense to nobody, but himself! lol

OldFriends4Sale said:

dadeepop said:

Thank you for being a voice of reason. Unfortunately race baiting isn't an actual thing to some people. It's easier to ignore it and give in to tha feels. Now excuse me while I go flog myself for being born white in America...

Albums. Remember those?

Albums still matter.

Like books and black lives,

albums still matter.

Tonight and always,"

Prince's religion is MuSiC, Prince's air is MuSic, Prince's culture is MuSic.

It is about PROMOTING Prince MUSIC, which is by itself great. But to Race Bait. And to pull at the heart strings of 'dem po blacks being victimized' and any others who fall in with it, is not genuine.

Prince’s new album HITNRUN will be a Tidal exclusive

Written by FACT Team on Friday, August 7 2015

“(Fans) care about black-owned, don’t they? Go over (to other services) if you want.

"dem po blacks"? wow. I see what babynoz is saying now. You live in the past as it's apparent that's how you wish things still where, and you're blind do your own biases, disgusing them in your love of Prince's music. it's sad but obvious reading your posts over time.

babynoz said:

pdiddy2011 said:

Thanks for this post.

People talk about Prince being in Princeworld, but it can be very similar to a white person not at all relating to a black person's experience - and completely not understanding it.

Indeed.

Its unfair for people here to see Prince as race-baiting. He's so not. White people can be so far removed from what the black community experiences, that they just have no reference point from which to draw from. Thats how isolated our 'integrated' society is.

Even when faced with video evidence...its ***unfathomable to them*** --- until...they have an experience themsleves. The only thing I've seen that's made white people wake up in front of my eyes....was the occupy wall street movement in NYC.

Thats the first time I've ever seen, en masse, white people treated like black people by the police. I've never seen white people so --- shocked --- at how they were handled by police. Its the first thing (at least that I've seen personally) that may have woke them to the abuses that the black community endure....it was felt deep enough for at least a portion of the white community to be able to HEAR #blacklivesmatter and understand it for real.

Some white people do understand....but they have to stop being offended when black people discuss white people .....Prince isnt race bating, he has 38 years of inclusion behind him. He has every right to BE a black man, and have feelings about it....as a black man.

[Edited 9/5/15 10:47am]

I'm still not fully sure what to think about this. It's so confusing. I just know that I find it upsetting to see the rift Prince's words have caused among his fans here. Debates will be debates and everyone has their own opinion over this, that's cool. But I think we can all agree that one of the biggest reasons Prince was so appealing as an artist back in his heyday was his accessability.

He had both men and women and black and white in The Revoltuion. I didn't live back in the '70s when he was getting popular but it must have been such an amazing thing to have such a diverse audience coming to see him in the '80s. It's just so upsetting to see that same audience split over one sentence. Meh, what do I know I'm just a 20 yr old in England lmao, I'm finished with this thread

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

what does "race-baiting" even mean??

is that another meaningless, cop-out term, or catchphrase, like "playing the race card"?

OldFriends4Sale said:

The Early Days of American Law Enforcement

The Watch

More than 350 years ago, America’s first known system of law enforcement was established in Boston. As soon as colonists had settled there in 1630, local ordinances had allowed for constables to be appointed. Soon after, in April 1631, the townspeople formed a “watch” made up of six watchmen, one constable, and several volunteers who patrolled at night, walking the rounds.

Initially run by a combination of obligatory and voluntary participation, the 17th century watch typically reported fires, maintained order in the streets, raised the “hue and cry” (pursuing suspected criminals with loud cries to raise alarm), and captured and arrested lawbreakers. Constables had similar tasks, which included maintaining health and sanitation and bringing suspects and witnesses to court—frequently for such conduct as working on the Sabbath, cursing in public places, and failing to pen animals properly.

In the more rural, sparsely populated areas of the Colonies, the sheriff was the main law enforcement figure. Appointed by the governor, sheriffs’ duties included serving legal documents such as writs, appearing in court, and collecting taxes. In many cases, the sheriff was paid a fixed amount for each task he performed, some, for example, receiving payment based on the amount of taxes they collected. Occasionally, these tasks proved dangerous. In fact, the first known American peace officer to be killed in the line of duty was Columbia County (NY) Sheriff Cornelius Hogeboom, who was shot on October 22, 1791, as he attempted to serve a writ of ejectment.

This early policing system was modeled after the English structure, which incorporated the watch, constables, and sheriffs (derived from the British term, “shire-reeves”) in a community-based police organization. (Interestingly, the British system developed from “kin policing” dating back to about 900 A.D., in which law enforcement power was in the people’s hands, and they were responsible for their families or “kin.”) Early law enforcement was reactionary, rather than pre-emptive—the watch usually responded to criminal behavior only when requested by victims or witnesses. And, with monetary incentive in certain areas, apprehending criminals was not always a priority.

If anyone wants the source:

http://www.nleomf.org/mus...oogle.com/

RJOrion said:

what does "race-baiting" even mean??

is that another meaningless, cop-out term, or catchphrase, like "playing the race card"?

YUP.

RJOrion said:

what does "race-baiting" even mean??

is that another meaningless, cop-out term, or catchphrase, like "playing the race card"?

just like fishing

In order to catch a fish you use a lure: live fake flashy colorful etc

People bait others with ideals of family race religion etc

BlackandRising said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Albums. Remember those?

Albums still matter.

Like books and black lives,

albums still matter.

Tonight and always,"

Prince's religion is MuSiC, Prince's air is MuSic, Prince's culture is MuSic.

It is about PROMOTING Prince MUSIC, which is by itself great. But to Race Bait. And to pull at the heart strings of 'dem po blacks being victimized' and any others who fall in with it, is not genuine.

Prince’s new album HITNRUN will be a Tidal exclusive

Written by FACT Team on Friday, August 7 2015

“(Fans) care about black-owned, don’t they? Go over (to other services) if you want.

"dem po blacks"? wow. I see what babynoz is saying now. You live in the past as it's apparent that's how you wish things still where, and you're blind do your own biases, disgusing them in your love of Prince's music. it's sad but obvious reading your posts over time.

HUH???

These topics are not for the easily offended.
And don't use Babynoz to back your comment.
Prince's comment came from the past,
lol I'm blind and disguising them in my love of Prince music...
It is sad but obvious reding my posts over time...

So now you want me to try to analyse U?

Using your 3rd Eye to see into my life...
I don't buy Prince's new music, nor do I enjoy his 3rd Eye Girl band, I don't have modern technology, I still wear clothes from the 70s and 80s

lol

terrig said:

babynoz said:

Indeed.

Its unfair for people here to see Prince as race-baiting. He's so not. White people can be so far removed from what the black community experiences, that they just have no reference point from which to draw from. Thats how isolated our 'integrated' society is.

Even when faced with video evidence...its ***unfathomable to them*** --- until...they have an experience themsleves. The only thing I've seen that's made white people wake up in front of my eyes....was the occupy wall street movement in NYC.

Thats the first time I've ever seen, en masse, white people treated like black people by the police. I've never seen white people so --- shocked --- at how they were handled by police. Its the first thing (at least that I've seen personally) that may have woke them to the abuses that the black community endure....it was felt deep enough for at least a portion of the white community to be able to HEAR #blacklivesmatter and understand it for real.

Some white people do understand....but they have to stop being offended when black people discuss white people .....Prince isnt race bating, he has 38 years of inclusion behind him. He has every right to BE a black man, and have feelings about it....as a black man.

[Edited 9/5/15 10:47am]

It's race baiting

OldFriends4Sale said:

RJOrion said:

what does "race-baiting" even mean??

is that another meaningless, cop-out term, or catchphrase, like "playing the race card"?

just like fishing

In order to catch a fish you use a lure: live fake flashy colorful etc

People bait others with ideals of family race religion etc

nonsense...no one is trying to "catch" anyone...people are merely expressing ideas...if someone feels "caught" or "lured", thats on them and their own guilty consciences...

PurpleSkipper58 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The Early Days of American Law Enforcement

The Watch

More than 350 years ago, America’s first known system of law enforcement was established in Boston. As soon as colonists had settled there in 1630, local ordinances had allowed for constables to be appointed. Soon after, in April 1631, the townspeople formed a “watch” made up of six watchmen, one constable, and several volunteers who patrolled at night, walking the rounds.

Initially run by a combination of obligatory and voluntary participation, the 17th century watch typically reported fires, maintained order in the streets, raised the “hue and cry” (pursuing suspected criminals with loud cries to raise alarm), and captured and arrested lawbreakers. Constables had similar tasks, which included maintaining health and sanitation and bringing suspects and witnesses to court—frequently for such conduct as working on the Sabbath, cursing in public places, and failing to pen animals properly.

In the more rural, sparsely populated areas of the Colonies, the sheriff was the main law enforcement figure. Appointed by the governor, sheriffs’ duties included serving legal documents such as writs, appearing in court, and collecting taxes. In many cases, the sheriff was paid a fixed amount for each task he performed, some, for example, receiving payment based on the amount of taxes they collected. Occasionally, these tasks proved dangerous. In fact, the first known American peace officer to be killed in the line of duty was Columbia County (NY) Sheriff Cornelius Hogeboom, who was shot on October 22, 1791, as he attempted to serve a writ of ejectment.

This early policing system was modeled after the English structure, which incorporated the watch, constables, and sheriffs (derived from the British term, “shire-reeves”) in a community-based police organization. (Interestingly, the British system developed from “kin policing” dating back to about 900 A.D., in which law enforcement power was in the people’s hands, and they were responsible for their families or “kin.”) Early law enforcement was reactionary, rather than pre-emptive—the watch usually responded to criminal behavior only when requested by victims or witnesses. And, with monetary incentive in certain areas, apprehending criminals was not always a priority.

If anyone wants the source:

http://www.nleomf.org/mus...oogle.com/

I ask this is all seriousness; but why, when you post one reference to one theory of how police started (and then prior to the introduction of slavery in the US), do you feel that this one reference point is the end all be all of the story? Do you think that this one reference invaidates the plethora of information to the contrary somehow? Do you not consider that, yes, most societies have always had some form of law enforcement, but that as time moves on, these same concepts can be, and have been, used for other purposes? Oldfriends4sale has posted this ad nauseum as if the more you post it, the more factual it becomes. The fact that many people of non-color cannot at the very least consider other possibiilities for what is and what was is a big part of the reason, I think, for much of the racial strife in this country and others. For example, I read a post on Yahoo the other day where people were actually entertaining the idea that, because they see what's going on today as some form of "reverse racism" by blacks (which there really can't be as we are not in a position to impose our will, culture, etc., on whites as a whole), that Jim Crow is actually a myth and the reasons there was segregation was because blacks were simply overpowering whites back then.That thread received thousands of upvotes and like-minded comments. So in light of this, why is it so hard for whites to simply sit back and think "yeah, I can kind of see why they'd think that way" when they see a comparison like the one Prince made? Why does it always have to be that we're "playing the race card" or "race-baiting" by simply articulating what we feel are apt comparisons between what is transpiring today and what happened in the past? If you are open-minded, simply peruse some of the links in this search (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=slavery+and+police) and consider that there just might be alternate theories to the status quo, vanilla version of history most of us are spoon-fed.

OldFriends4Sale said:

BlackandRising said:

"dem po blacks"? wow. I see what babynoz is saying now. You live in the past as it's apparent that's how you wish things still where, and you're blind do your own biases, disgusing them in your love of Prince's music. it's sad but obvious reading your posts over time.

HUH???

These topics are not for the easily offended.
And don't use Babynoz to back your comment.
Prince's comment came from the past,
lol I'm blind and disguising them in my love of Prince music...
It is sad but obvious reding my posts over time...

So now you want me to try to analyse U?

Using your 3rd Eye to see into my life...
I don't buy Prince's new music, nor do I enjoy his 3rd Eye Girl band, I don't have modern technology, I still wear clothes from the 70s and 80s

lol

exactly so why are you so offended when Prince makes these statements? THis is a discussion, I can use Babynoz or whatever reference point I choose to make a point. Be that as it may, you do live in the past and you are quite biased. I notice that when Prince makes these comments, you are front and center on the subsequent threads. Always. It's an observation, don't get offended.

BlackandRising said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

HUH???

These topics are not for the easily offended.
And don't use Babynoz to back your comment.
Prince's comment came from the past,
lol I'm blind and disguising them in my love of Prince music...
It is sad but obvious reding my posts over time...

So now you want me to try to analyse U?

Using your 3rd Eye to see into my life...
I don't buy Prince's new music, nor do I enjoy his 3rd Eye Girl band, I don't have modern technology, I still wear clothes from the 70s and 80s

lol

exactly so why are you so offended when Prince makes these statements? THis is a discussion, I can use Babynoz or whatever reference point I choose to make a point. Be that as it may, you do live in the past and you are quite biased. I notice that when Prince makes these comments, you are front and center on the subsequent threads. Always. It's an observation, don't get offended.

Your the offended one, because when a person goes all personal like that, that goes beyond discussing the ideals. I don't think I made any personal connection with you an this thread at all.
I'm offended by a member in this thread saying they 'hate whites and asians' Is that ok?
I'm disappointed at Prince using recent social issues involving race to promote his Music and Tidal.
I've said that over and over.
And I can be front and center on these topics because THIS is a discussion.
Why don't you take your observation off me,(because you can never know me) and put it on the facts of the discussion at hand.
It's a fact, don't get offended. :Prince is race baiting.

pureTsexy said:

I liked prince better when he was "raceless". I'm personally tired of him playing the race card. I've followed him since 1982, been a die hard fan since '89, seen him multiple times in concert, and own everything he's ever released ... actually owned everything 3 times due to my 1st collection being destroyed, and my 2nd collection being stolen. Oh, and I'm a white man, supporting a black artist... go figure. I realize there's racism in this country, but to hear a guy like Prince complaining about it, like it effects him, on a regular basis over the past decade or so, is just ridiculous. He was a black 17 yr old boy who was given the keys to the kingdom at WB. He was given a movie deal before he was even a megastar. He was allowed to do the Batman soundtrack despite his flop of Lovesexy, and the pulling of the Black Album. He was given the largest record deal in the music industry in 92..Then complained about it for years. He has had everything hes ever wanted out of this business, despite his bad decisions.. yet he complains about racism like his color has had some kind of negative impact on his career. Drop the drama, Prince. Go back to claiming you're black/white/Italian and whatever else you claimed to be back in your prime. I love you man... but enough with the race card.

So let me get this straight; because you've followed him since 82, been to several concerts, own each album 3 times over, etc., etc., and because he was "raceless" in the past, his speaking out about race now is playing...the race card? LMAO

See, this is why there can never be an adult discussion aroudn these things. I sincerely hope Prince becomes more amd nore adamant about acticulating these messages.

And I really think Prince recognizes this about his past and this is a delibrate attempt to divest himself of this exact type of thinking from his fans. This one post perfectly captures the issue with these threads and, IMHO, his fan base.

I'm hoping that he's thinking along the lines of, if you want to live in the past, more power to you. But I'm moving on, if you don't want to hang, peace out.

PurpleSkipper58 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

BlackandRising said:

exactly so why are you so offended when Prince makes these statements? THis is a discussion, I can use Babynoz or whatever reference point I choose to make a point. Be that as it may, you do live in the past and you are quite biased. I notice that when Prince makes these comments, you are front and center on the subsequent threads. Always. It's an observation, don't get offended.

Your the offended one, because when a person goes all personal like that, that goes beyond discussing the ideals. I don't think I made any personal connection with you an this thread at all.
I'm offended by a member in this thread saying they 'hate whites and asians' Is that ok?
I'm disappointed at Prince using recent social issues involving race to promote his Music and Tidal.
I've said that over and over.
And I can be front and center on these topics because THIS is a discussion.
Why don't you take your observation off me,(because you can never know me) and put it on the facts of the discussion at hand.
It's a fact, don't get offended. :Prince is race baiting.

No, Im good to go. I'm not offended, it's more of a sadness that even Prince's fans can't step out of their bubble for a minute. And I think i'm spot on about you.

RJOrion said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

just like fishing

In order to catch a fish you use a lure: live fake flashy colorful etc

People bait others with ideals of family race religion etc

nonsense...no one is trying to "catch" anyone...people are merely expressing ideas...if someone feels "caught" or "lured", thats on them and their own guilty consciences...

U asked what is race baiting.

I defined it.

that is what Baiting is in general. It isn't nonsense. well the bait might by but how I defined it isn't
It is little tidbits used to catch the attention of people to pull them in

Sometimes it's good sometimes it's bad. Politicians use it a lot.
Religious leader use it a lot.

when Prince used that line about Police and Black people -it was for that express purpose, it had nothing at all to do with Sept 7th Tidal & HitnRun

sign up it's coming

BlackandRising said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Your the offended one, because when a person goes all personal like that, that goes beyond discussing the ideals. I don't think I made any personal connection with you an this thread at all.
I'm offended by a member in this thread saying they 'hate whites and asians' Is that ok?
I'm disappointed at Prince using recent social issues involving race to promote his Music and Tidal.
I've said that over and over.
And I can be front and center on these topics because THIS is a discussion.
Why don't you take your observation off me,(because you can never know me) and put it on the facts of the discussion at hand.
It's a fact, don't get offended. :Prince is race baiting.

No, Im good to go. I'm not offended, it's more of a sadness that even Prince's fans can't step out of their bubble for a minute. And I think i'm spot on about you.

Do you really think I care what u personally feel/think about me?
the bubble that Prince fans need to step away from is that racial one about Police

I didn't need him to say that for me to think about joining the site to buy the album

How much is it this time?

OldFriends4Sale said:

BlackandRising said:

No, Im good to go. I'm not offended, it's more of a sadness that even Prince's fans can't step out of their bubble for a minute. And I think i'm spot on about you.

Do you really think I care what u personally feel/think about me?

lol why would I care if you care what I personally feel/think about you? I'm simply stating what I personally feel/think about you. Take it however you please.