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Reply #90 posted 08/31/15 9:32am

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dodger said:

iZsaZsa said:
I don't have to tell you anything. You're fucked.
lol Nearly choked on my toast then

You sure it was toast?

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Reply #91 posted 08/31/15 10:25am

lezama

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zobilamouche said:

Alexandernvrmind said:

love2thenines2003 said: You know what? After reading that. I am convinced that some of you just need to move on from Prince. There was NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT ARTICLE. Not at all an example of the Prince that tries to be mysterious. Smdh

The problem is more that this is not really an article but an advert disguised as an article. It's not a bad thing perse but it's basically meaningless. There's no real news or added value. I find that dissapointing to see this year after year.

The purpose of releasing an album is to sell music. The purpose of an artist giving interviews is to raise interest in said music. Im confused why you'd think there was another reason to give an interview with such a publication as the New York Post.. confuse

Change it one more time..
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Reply #92 posted 08/31/15 10:27am

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Noodled24 said:

Prince has been stale for 20 years because he refused to embrace new genres. Instead he just kept repeating himself.

If Josh/Hannah have opened his eyes to new genres then that can only be a good thing. Prince fans tend to hear words like "dubstep" and groan. Most I suspect couldnt name an artist operating within that genre without googling it first.

The endless ballads and rehashed pop has to stop if he ever wants to appeal to a new audience - and he HAS to do this because he's barely selling more than 100k albums.

David Bowie put out a drum and bass influenced album in 1997. This is "experimental" because Bowie isn't a D&B artist. Prince putting out yet another pop album is in no way experimental. It's Prince playing safe and sticking to what he knows. He rarely deviates from this path. Josh is the best thing to happen to Prince in a long time.

Good points.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #93 posted 08/31/15 11:10am

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lezama said:

zobilamouche said:

The problem is more that this is not really an article but an advert disguised as an article. It's not a bad thing perse but it's basically meaningless. There's no real news or added value. I find that dissapointing to see this year after year.

The purpose of releasing an album is to sell music. The purpose of an artist giving interviews is to raise interest in said music. Im confused why you'd think there was another reason to give an interview with such a publication as the New York Post.. confuse

Well, I'm not familiar as where I need to fit in the NY post in the media landscape so maybe my expectations were wrong on this. That these press oportunities are used to generate interest in an upcoming album is fine by me but there isn't even an actual review of the music. And usually if there is it's stuck in general terms that doesn't really tell anyone interesting that would help them to figure out what's coming. Prince mashes so many influences together that just telling people you will hear musical style X, Y and Z is pointless. Over the last years you need a magnifying glass to find reviews that are actual reviews of the music or something that goes beyond sucking up in hope to be invited again.
Let my try to put it this way; they don't offer a unique selling proposition that wants me to go and listen to the music. Then just place and advert if your contribution as a journalist isn't there or required.

The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy.
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Reply #94 posted 08/31/15 11:28am

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Noodled24 said:

Prince has been stale for 20 years because he refused to embrace new genres.

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You mean he should follow the mainstream taste and do songs that way?

Most P attempts in that direction are lame.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #95 posted 08/31/15 11:53am

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RodeoSchro said:

Pick up an instrument and play them yourself.







BartVanHemelen said:




Aerogram said:



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HE DOES ZILCH. Go on, list all of his promo he did for any album he released in the past 10 years. Go list all of the promo he did for AOA. Are those the actions of someone who is proud of the music he's recorded?


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He plays the hits to keep casual fans happy and because his new songs are not well known outside of the hardcore base.




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He had no problems playing next to zero hits in 1987. Or in 1995. Or in 1984-85. In 1988 half of the gig was new music. Etc.


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Go make a list of all the songs from the albums of the past ten years which he's played live more than a handful of times. If these songs are so great, why ain't he playing them? Not even during aftershows. Not even at PP gigs. In front of HARDCORE fans, he plays his goddamn played-out hits. Oh, and covers of 1970s disco tunes.





Ah, the old "you can't criticize anything unless your skilled in said profession" excuse. Was waiting for that one. So if I pay $4 for a hamburger and it's disgusting, I can't say anything cause I'm not a cook?
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Reply #96 posted 08/31/15 12:23pm

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udo said:

Noodled24 said:

Prince has been stale for 20 years because he refused to embrace new genres.

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You mean he should follow the mainstream taste and do songs that way?

Most P attempts in that direction are lame.


"New genres" don't need to be mainstream.

RE: "Most P attempts in that direction are lame". That's kind of a non sequitur because we're talking about multiple different genres. Unless you're saying anything Prince does outside of pop/rock is lame? I suspect you're not.

Dubstep - for example has been around for years. It's not a new genre in that sense. Elements were used to great effect on AOA and it brought a fresh sound thats been missing for some time.

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Reply #97 posted 08/31/15 12:27pm

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Aerogram said:

Polo1026 said:

This story is currently generating enough hits to be the front page story on nypost.com.

That can't be, Prince is an irrelevant has-been who records worthless music. biggrin


exclaim lol

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Reply #98 posted 08/31/15 12:30pm

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Aerogram said:

1contessa said:

All I got from it was a lot of words literally saying nothing. It's the same ole same old. I think Prince is still living in the 80's because his interviews are all the same, where he thinks people are still into his antics of being ghostlike, how good he is at ping pong, his spirituality, and his ramblings about how he feels about music, trying to sound as if he's the most wise, intelligent person to ever walk the earth. In reality, it's all getting kind of sad, because he's just getting older and so is his audience, and most, such as myself, have grown up, and no longer find his antics "cute" or think that he hung the moon anymore. I think that Prince is trying to live precariously through this guy Josh, because like someone said, he still wishes that he was 25. Well, you're not anymore Prince, and it's a fact you should face and accept. None of us will never get back our years gone by, and we won't get any younger.

So if someone older works with someone younger or if someone younger works with someone older, they're trying to mentally be younger/older? That has always been the case, knowledge has always been passed on and creative types have benefited from working with experienced types and vice versa, feeling some youth or experience contact high is part of the learning and knowledge transfer process.


Not to mention the fact that in any profession, if you're around long enough, you will eventually end up working with younger people. There are a few "grande dames" (myself included) where I work. But most of the people in the digital and merchandising realms are millennials. That's just how it is. shrug

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Reply #99 posted 08/31/15 6:09pm

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zobilamouche said:

lezama said:

The purpose of releasing an album is to sell music. The purpose of an artist giving interviews is to raise interest in said music. Im confused why you'd think there was another reason to give an interview with such a publication as the New York Post.. confuse

Well, I'm not familiar as where I need to fit in the NY post in the media landscape so maybe my expectations were wrong on this. That these press oportunities are used to generate interest in an upcoming album is fine by me but there isn't even an actual review of the music. And usually if there is it's stuck in general terms that doesn't really tell anyone interesting that would help them to figure out what's coming. Prince mashes so many influences together that just telling people you will hear musical style X, Y and Z is pointless. Over the last years you need a magnifying glass to find reviews that are actual reviews of the music or something that goes beyond sucking up in hope to be invited again.
Let my try to put it this way; they don't offer a unique selling proposition that wants me to go and listen to the music. Then just place and advert if your contribution as a journalist isn't there or required.

Ok, gotcha, and agreed, but the New York Post is never ever where anyone would look for anything of quality... EVER.. if its not complete trash its a miracle. And Im a new yorker, I grew up with its trash.

Change it one more time..
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