thedance said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

This is the worst thread ever.

this is the kind of thread that scares the more serious Prince fans away from the org.

maybe it is time for the

I agree. It's petty arguing and bickering about a tired, rehashed subject that should've been put to rest years ago.

Emancipation89 said:

1. MJ's skin tone started changing before P's.

1. MJ's skin tone started changing before P's. That's right P intentionally changed his skin color, at least through photoshop and makeup. I think P saw MJ becoming lighter and felt challenged, hence the cover of PR and Lovesexy (false)

no, dear, prince had his black or white controversy from the debut, just go on denying the fact!

i bet u didn't even heard abt prince controversy album..just go n study abt the history, hunn

2. MJ wore white clothes in public waaayy before P. Sowwy. (false)

haha, just open ur narrow mind with ur eyes wide open, then look up the picture again.. u know is not abt the white cloths, but is abt the style..should i show more evidence that mj took many cool stuff from prince? lol this is only part of it, i don't wanna hurt u,

3. MJ wore fedoras and military jacket before P did. In fact MJ wore fedora even during Motown era when all P could do was watch MJ on television and dream of getting a record deal.(false)

mm, if i were u, i will show u a picture to prove mj actually wear that prince-look alike clothes before 1983, with sunglasses and prince-alike hat, hunn, just stop protect ur idol with those lies & mental excuses, even urself knows ur just spreading ur self-made rumor.. (yah that's right)

4. "The Way You Make Me Feel" doesn't have any signature P sound whatsoever.(false)

go n see purple rain, again with ur glasses..ur idol was a die hard purple rain fan.. (truth)

5. P went around and played MJ's music and went all "hee-hee" at live shows. MJ does Dirty Diana, big deal, and I can see P's influence in that song but it is more commonly seen as a combination of Billie Jean's lyrics and Beat It's musical style. (false)

haha, it was actually mj who tried so hard to cooperate with the highness, he tried to invite him several times..but prince is such a smart guy to turn it down, he did't liked the comparison, he teach mj MUSIC IS NOT A COMPETITION, if mj learned the lesson earlier, he would never die this early.. mmm wat to say, i have my sympathy on ur idol,

prince always attempt different style. but ur idol just stuck with prince purple rain era..lol.. i saw mj this is it dvd, and found he still wears the same clothes with same style.. don't u think he just run out of the idea? without prince help?

6. Learn how to spell VITILIGO

haha, ur so cute! kinda interesting how u tries so hard to prove me wrong, btw, what is so good abt ur beloved michella jackyson?

oops i spelled that wrong.. i meant michalle jachoson.. watever..

[Edited 6/24/13 6:50am]

ElectricBlue said:

Pretty much the case closed with all this MJ crap is ... he actually completely changed his image, with a mysterious quiet personality, to bleaching of his skin - yes the real reason he started bleaching his skin was because Prince was lighter & he thought that was the reason the public loved him in the Purple Rain era, to having a Apollonia type with Tatiana Thumbtzen, to trying to pretend he did all the production,etc to songs, to the original album cover for bad was MJ with lace on his face... lace? Now add later with MJ's "symbol" on history was a direct rip off of Prince's... MJ has been eating a Prince shit sandwich since 1983. The peak of MJ's Prince worship was BAD. But damn the true reason MJ died was he was trying to compete with Prince's 21 shows in 21 days. But being a complete drug addict for decades his body couldnt hold up with the schedule. He even said to Kenny Ortega while trying to do his last concert he was mumbling about Prince.. The sad thing is I can probably think of 10 more examples of MJ biting off Prince, but there isnt one the other way. It's actually pretty sad how much MJ turned in "Single White Female" for Prince.

http://youtu.be/mFcz_U62r6s

SOOO TRUE!, i know i can list like 100 more examples!! don't do it, just cuz tired of this shit

[Edited 6/22/13 7:34am]

2elijah said:
I have always been a fan of MJ's music and will always respect and appreciate it, but are you serious? Do you know how many artists and fans tried to copy Prince's hairstyle/look and sound? Are you kidding me? Prince took the music industry by storm with that Minneapolis sound. Many may have tried to emulate MJ's dance moves, but many young, males (from various racial backgrounds) were trying to look like Prince and have that 'pretty man' look. Once MJ 'changed' his look completely, many of his fans questioned what was going on, and it pretty much became a sad situation, which although MJ had a major fan base, many became freaked out over his appearance and behavior. Sad but true.

What I find more tragic is that it took his death and autopsy results for people to realize he indeed had a skin disorder (well, there's still a few who deny the reality as this thread clearly shows). I didn't live through the 80's and I am in no way being disrespectful towards those who did but it's obvious the level of education had a lot to do with it. People didn't really know what vitiligo was, and just like they denied or made up rumors about AIDS, when they are not familiar with something the first thing they do is deny.

I honestly think had MJ been born more recently, he woud've been a little more accepted, at least as far as his physical features are concerned. Nowadays majority of educated people are aware of vitiligo and also keep an open mind on diseases or disorders they never heard of. These days all I see from musicians especially the mainstream ones is the competition of who can be a bigger freak. Michael was one effortless freak who dealt with the skin disorder the best way he knew how. I truly believe his eccentricities would've been less harshly judged if he were around my era.

2elijah said:

It was apparent MJ was becoming threatened by not only Prince's look, but by the success of Prince during Purple Rain. The headlines at the time on many tabloids were "Who is the real King of Pop?" and you'd see a pic of Prince and MJ together. MJ even tried to copy Prince's look and wanted to perform with him, but apparently that didn't work out.

--

Sadly, I may be treading a thin line here, and I 'm not afraid to say this, but MJ seemed to have felt threatened by a light-skinned, black man, who was often described as a 'pretty man', who played 27 instruments, and seduced audiences with his music/stage performance, and fans raved about Prince. It was apparent that MJ felt that Prince was stealing his throne, so-to-speak.

I don't know about "threatened" but I'm sure Michael kept his eye on Prince but isn't it funny it's actually Prince who threw cheap shots at MJ in his songs hinting his disapproval of MJ's so-called 'king of pop' status? Some call that "jealousy" and to be honest it is what it is.

2elijah said:
Now no disrespect to MJ's talent, as I was always a major fan of MJ's music, as well as when he was with his brothers as the Jackson5, as so many others, but after seeing the Purple Rain movie, I was amazed by Prince's performance, as were so many who saw that movie. I had heard of Prince, and listened to some of his music before the Purple Rain movie, but after seeing the Purple Rain movie, and Prince's amazing talent/stage performance, that's when I became more of a fan of his music.

It seems a lot of the fans were really into MJ and then with PR they started leaning more towards Prince. I would think that really says a lot about how powerful P's materials were in the 80's considering the unescapable MJ hype everywhere (-so I've heard), but then again, I've also seen a lot of people who were really into MJ until Thriller or Bad and then moved on to other artists, not necessarily to Prince. And that's why I think the style of MJ's newer music is what really drove some of those old school fans away more than anything. Releasing 2 or 3 albums in a decade must've not helped also lol. But people like what they like, as simple as that, there's no way that can be seen as diminishing MJ's talent

smoothcriminal12 said:

thedance said:

this is the kind of thread that scares the more serious Prince fans away from the org.

maybe it is time for the

I agree. It's petty arguing and bickering about a tired, rehashed subject that should've been put to rest years ago.

Pfft give me a break! Neither of you put any "serious" input in this thread and we all know you weren't going to lol. It cracks me up when I see people clown around spouting bullshit on a thread for pages and then get mad, request the thread to be locked when some shit gets thrown right back on them!

[Edited 6/10/13 19:27pm]

Emancipation89 said:

2elijah said:
I have always been a fan of MJ's music and will always respect and appreciate it, but are you serious? Do you know how many artists and fans tried to copy Prince's hairstyle/look and sound? Are you kidding me? Prince took the music industry by storm with that Minneapolis sound. Many may have tried to emulate MJ's dance moves, but many young, males (from various racial backgrounds) were trying to look like Prince and have that 'pretty man' look. Once MJ 'changed' his look completely, many of his fans questioned what was going on, and it pretty much became a sad situation, which although MJ had a major fan base, many became freaked out over his appearance and behavior. Sad but true.

What I find more tragic is that it took his death and autopsy results for people to realize he indeed had a skin disorder (well, there's still a few who deny the reality as this thread clearly shows). I didn't live through the 80's and I am in no way being disrespectful towards those who did but it's obvious the level of education had a lot to do with it. People didn't really know what vitiligo was, and just like they denied or made up rumors about AIDS, when they are not familiar with something the first thing they do is deny.

I honestly think had MJ been born more recently, he woud've been a little more accepted, at least as far as his physical features are concerned. These days all I see from musicians especially the mainstream ones is the competition of who can be a bigger freak. Michael was one effortless freak who dealt with the skin disorder the best way he knew how. I truly believe his eccentricities were less harshly judged if he was around in my era.

He had an image to live up to and was pretty much raised as an 'image'. I believe people started questioning why MJ began wearing a glove, and I believe that is when signs of vitiligo started. It seemed obvious, that had he revealed he had vitiligo, he probably felt the slow process of his skin spotting, while losing some of the pigmentation, would have a major affect on his appearance and career.

Imagine being a worldwide star with a household name, with an image to live up to, and suddenly you find out you have a skin condition that would change your appearance. He came across at times, like he was an artist who was insecure about his looks and acceptance by others, so it would not surprise me if the gloves was part of hiding the skin condition. Then he started wearing sunglasses, and covering his face, and then the curiosity and questions began, and the public basically witnessed a metamorphosis (so-to-speak) with MJ. He basically went from being a dark-skinned Black male to a fair-skinned Black male, in a very, short period of time. Vitiligo is a slow, skin-changing process, and the skin becomes 'spotted', and takes a long time to completely lose the pigmentation over the entire body.

I believe MJ had a bleaching procedure that involved, some type of peeling process or injections, to speed up the process of his skin tone becoming one shade. It may have been a coincidence that a lot of this took place during the time the Purple Rain era took place, but I think if MJ was upfront about his vitiligo, and didn't wait to reveal it, then the suspicions about him being color-struck, shame of his Black American identity, and all the other rumors/speculation about , would not have reached the level it did during that time period.

[Edited 6/10/13 19:30pm]

2elijah Said:

He had an image to live up to and was pretty much raised as an 'image'. I believe people started questioning why MJ began wearing a glove, and I believe that is when signs of vitiligo started. It seemed obvious, that had he revealed he had vitiligo, he probably felt the slow process of his skin spotting, while losing some of the pigmentation, would have a major affect on his appearance and career.

Imagine being a worldwide star with a household name, with an image to live up to, and suddenly you find out you have a skin condition that would change your appearance. He came across at times, like he was an artist who was insecure about his looks and acceptance by others, so it would not surprise me if the gloves was part of hiding the skin condition. Then he started wearing sunglasses, and covering his face, and then the curiosity and questions began, and the public basically witnessed a metamorphosis (so-to-speak) with MJ. He basically went from being a dark-skinned Black male to a fair-skinned Black male, in a very, short period of time. Vitiligo is a slow, skin-changing process, and the skin becomes 'spotted', and takes a long time to completely lose the pigmentation over the entire body.

I believe MJ had a bleaching procedure that involved, some type of peeling process or injections, to speed up the process of his skin tone becoming one shade. It may have been a coincidence that a lot of this took place during the time the Purple Rain era took place, but I think if MJ was upfront about his vitiligo, and didn't wait to reveal it, then the suspicions about him being color-struck, shame of his Black American identity, and all the other rumors/speculation about , would not have reached the level it did during that time period.

[Edited 6/10/13 19:30pm]

A lot of pictures prove that MJ looked lighter in 1986, 1987 and then he would suddenly look darker again in 1988 and 1989, 1990. I'll post pics later when I get on my computer but that proves it wasn't bleaching process he went through those years. It was always MAKEUP MJ wore to even out his skin tone.

MJ in 1985

MJ in 1987/1988

MJ in 1989 - Vanity Fair photoshoot (his hands look even darker)

MJ in 1991

And you are misinformed about vitiligo. There's no rule as to how vitiligo should appear on one's body. I've read cases from people who suffered from slow paced vitiligo to a very rapid spread of depigmentation of vitiligo. And for a lot of people who suffer from this skin disorder, the spots don't spread all across their body evenly but rather remain certain parts of their body and it stops spreading. For some people they could only have depigmentation on their legs, for some people the spots appear more on their face and upper body. And vitiligo rarely covers one's entire body.

I understand what color you are and how light your skin looks is a big deal, especially for ethnic people. But as shy as MJ was, I don't know why people think it was so necessary for him to reveal his skin disorder during Thriller era or even earlier. "Hey guys, there seem to be these random white blotches starting to appear on my body, it's called vitiligo, and I don't know how far it will spread across my body, I don't even how many more blotches will appear and where exactly on my body as they appear randomly. Oh I also don't know if I can find a medial procedure to somehow even out my skin tone but I'm gonna be wearing lots of makeup from now on, so please do understand that's the reason why my skin color looks lighter than ever". I mean is that what you expected from MJ? At the height of his fame during Thriller ~ Bad era? Or any celebrity who suffer from vitiligo for that matter? I'm sure he would've loved to be called "spots" and teased by tabloids and the media. Any skin disorder can be very damaging to one's self confidence and it is embarrassing. I can totally understand why he tried not to speak of his skin disorder for the longest time. One of my best friends from college has psoriasis and that is her biggest insecurity especially during summer time. She even tried to hide that from her friends and boyfriend. I could be the biggest baby myself when I get allergic reaction all across my arms and I literally skipped all my classes for two weeks in a row as it even got on my face. I completely freaked out and I'm no celebrity but it really did stress me out because well I'm a human who has feelings.

Yes his skin visibly got lighter, but that's no one's business but his. He is free to present himself however he wants, because last I checked Prince often wore makeup few shades lighter than his own skin tone, and often used photoshop (although I doubt that's what it was called back in the day lol) and lightings to make himself look lighter in videos and album covers, to portray whatever that vision he had in his mind. How come it's accepted as some sort of artistic expression when it's coming from P and not MJ? And P isn't the one with skin disorder. And I know P has lighter skin than MJ but that means nothing, P is just as much a black american as Michael Jackson. And even though MJ's skin got lighter he remained close to black community always. Most famous MJ's videos feature beautiful black girls and I can't say the same about P. When he was on top of the world he visited Africa, through out the years he praised South Africa as one of the most beautiful places he'd ever been. Not to mention the amount of money he donated to African communities and he acknowledged important black figures including non-Americans. He also acknowledged Africa as the origin continent where music came from, and I'm sure it was a big deal considering that was coming from the most famous entertainer at the time. MJ has a lot smaller music catalogue compared to Prince and he has a song called Liberian Girl. etc. etc. Fact that MJ was accused of being color struck even during the 80's is something I can't quite comprehend, especially knowing P wasn't as brutally criticized regarding this issue as MJ.

[Edited 6/10/13 20:14pm]

[Edited 6/10/13 23:26pm]

If you had any brains you'd be embarrassed by your own posts on this thread by now but god you remain a loon till the end

PS hey mods why is it such a pain in the ass to put space between paragraphs smh

[Edited 6/10/13 19:27pm]

at least i provide pictures to prove my point is right, what did u do except humiliating other ppl's thoughts? a typical mj fan who attacks freedom of speech wen they couldn't accept the others point of view.

n yah, i know sometimes the truth hurts lol

mj was nothing but a joke before the death - known fact

mj was a drug addict - known fact

prince and madonna could still do the live shows in their age, they have more healthy life than mj - known fact

mj have 3 white kids - and he said the 3rd one's mother was black (???lol)

mj had surgery more than 2 - known fact

if u think im bashing on mj, im not, im just speaking the truth, there's are bunch of reasons why he got the name wacho jacko

he was a star from childhood, the music industry teach him ; TELL THE LIES UNTILL IT BECOMES THE TRUTH! i guess he kept that on his mind untill the death. he was sooo FAKE, just like lady gaga

[Edited 6/22/13 11:34am]

No. 7 Insanely prolific

He released virtually an album-and-a-half every year from 1980 to 1989, and that’s not counting bootlegs, B-sides and the numerous side projects that served as outlets for his creativity. To put that in perspective: in the time between Michael Jackson releasingThriller (1982) and Bad (1987), Prince released five albums–including a double set.

No. 6 The “Minneapolis Sound” came to dominate popular music

After Prince’s crossover stardom with 1999, his “Minneapolis Sound” (a continuation of Stax-ish soul that essentially replaced horns with synths and featured hard funk and dance grooves) became the defining sound of 80s pop. From Ready For the World’s “Oh Sheila” to Stevie Nicks’ “Stand Back,” to Full Force’s work with Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam.

No. 5 Also brought to you by Prince…

The Time, Vanity, Sheila E., The Family, Jesse Johnson, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis and Alexander O’Neal. They were all at one point or another shepherded by His Royal Badness during his creative and commercial peak.

No. 4 “Written, produced, arranged and performed by Prince”

No artist of the MTV era epitomized the idea of a self-contained creative force better than Prince. Even though he would often work with bands like The Revolution or New Power Generation and others, his ability to put together entire albums on the strength of his own ability made him one of pop’s most respected hitmakers.

No. 3 He wrote how many hits for other artists?

“Sugarwalls” by Sheena Easton. “Manic Monday” by the Bangles. “I Feel For You” by Chaka Khan. “Nasty Girl” by Vanity 6. “Get It Up” by the Time. “Glamorous Life” by Sheila E. “Nothing Compares 2 U” by Sinead O’Connor. Those are just some of the hit songs he tossed out to other artists.

No. 2 Prince, Controversy, Around the World In A Day, Parade andLovesexy

There’s something to be said for watching an artist at their creative pinnacle. And Prince in the 80s was at his pinnacle. Even the albums that weren’t quite universally-acclaimed still sound fresh and spawned hit singles and classic album tracks.

No. 1 Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain and Sign o’ the Times

But if you don’t quite grasp why people make such a big fuss over some little guy from Minneapolis that dresses funny–these are the albums that cement his greatness. Like all great art, Prince’s best work both defines its era and transcends it; on these albums (and virtually everything he did over that period) you hear the Prince that influenced everyone from D’angelo to Pharrell Williams, and you see the vision and undeniable talent of a man who shaped his era as much as any artist ever could.

purplesnowlove said:

If you had any brains you'd be embarrassed by your own posts on this thread by now but god you remain a loon till the end

PS hey mods why is it such a pain in the ass to put space between paragraphs smh

[Edited 6/10/13 19:27pm]

at least i provide pictures to prove my point is right, what did u do except humiliating other ppl's thoughts?

n yah, i know sometimes the truth hurts lol

mj was nothing but a joke before the death - known fact

mj was a drug addict - known fact

prince and madonna could still do the live shows in their age, they have more healthy life than mj - known fact

mj have 3 white kids - and he said the 3rd one's mother is black! (??)

mj had surgery more than 2 - known fact

if u think im bashing on mj, im not, im just speaking the truth, there's are bunch of reasons why the media called him wacho jacko

he was a star from childhood, the music industry teach him ; tell the lies untill it becomes the truth.. i guess he kept that on his mind untill the death. he was so fake, just like lady gaga

lol When you post pictures to make up your own theory and someone calls you out on your bullshit and you have nothing to say to that, that means your point is proven wrong. Yes I humiliated your thoughts big time didn't I? But know that I only tried to do a nice thing and save your simpleminded ass from drowning in the world of purple kool-aid where P inspired MJ to wear white shirt and fedora. I mean if you'd rather drown though I'm happy to let ya!

MJ did sell out 50 arena shows in '09. Oh and also Prince played MJ's music even when MJ was alive. I guess Mike was "nothing but a joke" P considered worth paying homage to. What was that? truth hurts? lol And "all MJ's kids are white" is not a known fact either. I'm done wasting my time on these embarrassing arguments coming from a loon but do look up the definition of "fact" and "truth", I promise you that is the most worthwhile thing you'll do today, perhaps in a while. You're welcome

^ ok, but who cares about that.


10 reasons Prince was the greatest artist of the 1980s....

I know this is a little hard to digest for the MJ fanatics.


Prince: 10 albums, Michael Jackson, 2 albums.



We have a winner: Prince.


-- after all this is prince.org - not jackson.org.

I looove these 2 artists, both:

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/14705fe3-d080-4e6b-8918-0c95c95088e3_zps994770f2.jpg[/img:$uid]

... they used to be really brilliant - both.....

Btw: anyone remember this magazine, the cover,

The 50 greatest artists of all time:


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/RSImmortals.jpg[/img:$uid]


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/1999MTV.jpg[/img:$uid]

This guy: @ #28.


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/thrillerMTV.jpg[/img:$uid]

And this guy @ #35.




1) The Beatles by Elvis Costello
2) Bob Dylan by Robbie Robertson
3) Elvis Presley by Bono
4) The Rolling Stones by Steven Van Zandt
5) Chuck Berry by Joe Perry
6) Jimi Hendrix by John Mayer
7) James Brown by Rick Rubin
8) Little Richard by Little Richard
9) Aretha Franklin by Jerry Wexler
10) Ray Charles by Van Morrison
11) Bob Marley by Wyclef Jean
12) The Beach Boys by Lindsey Buckingham
13) Buddy Holly by John Mellencamp
14) Led Zeppelin by David Grohl
15) Stevie Wonder by Elton John
16) Sam Cooke by Art Garfunkel
17) Muddy Watters by Billy Gibbons
18) Marvin Gaye by Smokey Robinson
19) The Velvet Underground by Julian Casablancas
20) Bo Diddley by Iggy Pop
21) Otis Redding by Steve Cropper
22) U2 by Chris Martin
23) Bruce Springsteen by Jackson Browne
24) Jerry Lee Lewis by Moby
25) Fats Domino by Dr. John
26) The Ramones by Lenny Kaye
27) Nirvana by Vernon Reid
28) Prince by Ahmir Thompson
29) The Who by Eddie Vedder
30) The Clash by The Edge
31) Johnny Cash by Kris Kristofferson
32) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles by Bob Seger
33) The Everly Brothers by Paul Simon
34) Neil Young by Flea
35) Michael Jackson by Antonio "LA" Reid
36) Madonna by Britney Spears
37) Roy Orbison by K.D. Lang
38) John Lennon by Lenny Kravitz
39) David Bowie by Lou Reed
40) Simon and Garfunkel by James Taylor
41) The Doors by Marilyn Manson
42) Van Morrison by Peter Wolf
43) Sly and the Family Stone by Don Was
44) Public Enemy by Adam Yauch
45) The Byrds by Tom Petty
46) Janis Joplin by Rosanne Cash
47) Patti Smith by Shirley Manson
48) Run-DMC by Chuck D
49) Elton John by Billy Joel
50) The Band by Lucinda Williams

Nice list.


.

[Edited 6/11/13 3:21am]

Emancipation89 said:

lol When you post pictures to make up your own theory and someone calls you out on your bullshit and you have nothing to say to that, that means your point is proven wrong. Yes I humiliated your thoughts big time didn't I? But know that I only tried to do a nice thing and save your simpleminded ass from drowning in the world of purple kool-aid where P inspired MJ to wear white shirt and fedora. I mean if you'd rather drown though I'm happy to let ya!

MJ did sell out 50 arena shows in '09. Oh and also Prince played MJ's music even when MJ was alive. I guess Mike was "nothing but a joke" P considered worth paying homage to. What was that? truth hurts? lol And "all MJ's kids are white" is not a known fact either. I'm done wasting my time on these embarrassing arguments coming from a loon but do look up the definition of "fact" and "truth", I promise you that is the most worthwhile thing you'll do today, perhaps in a while. You're welcome

lol.. u r going so LOW! i couldn't help laughing wen reading ur post!!! thanks for amusing me, hunny! ask 3 year old that wasn't copy from prince, ur not agree with me it's ok, i wont force u to, but...STILL, there are soooooo many ppl agrees with my point, lol.. u just keep living in ur fantasy world with ur mj, and deny the fact!

i know mj sold out 50 arena shows, but DID HE FINISHED IT? NO, he died of the STRESS and the DRUG :p r u going to denying this fact too? lol

and i said mj had 3 white kids is cuz i really don't think he was the biologic father..blanket kinda looks like him a little, but.. he said his mother is black.. soo , he told the LIE again!... black man + black women =white baby ? lol ok, i know it also can be possible in ur delusional mj fans fantasy world.. lol

and, yah, prince did sing mj song after the death, wat's ur point but? he also did that wen amy died.. he's such a nice guy to do tribute to those tragedies..u should thank him for doing that instead of hating on him, if u love ur mj, ..

and once again, why the hell u mj fans even visiting prince fan site.. if there's no good things to say abt? it's prince fan site! for the ppl who loves prince ♥ peace! , ohhh, n hey, talking abt peace, DID U KNOW THAT mj also took this peace sign from prince? prince goes show love, peace n be wild, n mj goes.. love n peace.. that copycat! lol

i liked 2 of mj video, btw, it's dirty diana & give into me, love it cuz it's sooooooo PRINCE STYLE...lol

prince is NATURALLY prettier n superior than mj! end of story! have a nice day n bye lol i guess i love ur enthusiasm..

[Edited 6/24/13 7:59am]

lol... and this rank was done by the music experts!!!!!!!..yes!!!!

and, too bad!! mj fans have no excuse this time, to say rolling stone is raciest..

prince is black lol

thedance said:

Btw: anyone remember this magazine, the cover,

The 50 greatest artists of all time:


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/RSImmortals.jpg[/img:$uid]


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/1999MTV.jpg[/img:$uid]

This guy: @ #28.


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/thrillerMTV.jpg[/img:$uid]

And this guy @ #35.

[Edited 6/22/13 11:15am]

vitiligo before and after the treatment..

sooooo, can u tell me why did mj choose to be white? wen he absolutely had enough money to cure the illness to save the darker skin color?

[Edited 6/22/13 10:59am]

thedance said:

Btw: anyone remember this magazine, the cover,

The 50 greatest artists of all time:


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/RSImmortals.jpg[/img:$uid]


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/1999MTV.jpg[/img:$uid]

This guy: @ #28.


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/thrillerMTV.jpg[/img:$uid]

And this guy @ #35.




1) The Beatles by Elvis Costello
2) Bob Dylan by Robbie Robertson
3) Elvis Presley by Bono
4) The Rolling Stones by Steven Van Zandt
5) Chuck Berry by Joe Perry
6) Jimi Hendrix by John Mayer
7) James Brown by Rick Rubin
8) Little Richard by Little Richard
9) Aretha Franklin by Jerry Wexler
10) Ray Charles by Van Morrison
11) Bob Marley by Wyclef Jean
12) The Beach Boys by Lindsey Buckingham
13) Buddy Holly by John Mellencamp
14) Led Zeppelin by David Grohl
15) Stevie Wonder by Elton John
16) Sam Cooke by Art Garfunkel
17) Muddy Watters by Billy Gibbons
18) Marvin Gaye by Smokey Robinson
19) The Velvet Underground by Julian Casablancas
20) Bo Diddley by Iggy Pop
21) Otis Redding by Steve Cropper
22) U2 by Chris Martin
23) Bruce Springsteen by Jackson Browne
24) Jerry Lee Lewis by Moby
25) Fats Domino by Dr. John
26) The Ramones by Lenny Kaye
27) Nirvana by Vernon Reid
28) Prince by Ahmir Thompson
29) The Who by Eddie Vedder
30) The Clash by The Edge
31) Johnny Cash by Kris Kristofferson
32) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles by Bob Seger
33) The Everly Brothers by Paul Simon
34) Neil Young by Flea
35) Michael Jackson by Antonio "LA" Reid
36) Madonna by Britney Spears
37) Roy Orbison by K.D. Lang
38) John Lennon by Lenny Kravitz
39) David Bowie by Lou Reed
40) Simon and Garfunkel by James Taylor
41) The Doors by Marilyn Manson
42) Van Morrison by Peter Wolf
43) Sly and the Family Stone by Don Was
44) Public Enemy by Adam Yauch
45) The Byrds by Tom Petty
46) Janis Joplin by Rosanne Cash
47) Patti Smith by Shirley Manson
48) Run-DMC by Chuck D
49) Elton John by Billy Joel
50) The Band by Lucinda Williams

Nice list.


.

[Edited 6/11/13 3:21am]

MJ is still the best selling aritst of all time with the best selling album of all time. Dosen't matter what you say or do, its FACTS! MJ is the best and Prince is too!

thedance said:

^ My guess is it's because Prince's reputation was: he /Prince was bad (very bad) - in his songs about incest and oralsex, and about women's vaginas....

Rather than men's vaginas?

Emancipation89 said:

2elijah Said:

He had an image to live up to and was pretty much raised as an 'image'. I believe people started questioning why MJ began wearing a glove, and I believe that is when signs of vitiligo started. It seemed obvious, that had he revealed he had vitiligo, he probably felt the slow process of his skin spotting, while losing some of the pigmentation, would have a major affect on his appearance and career.

Imagine being a worldwide star with a household name, with an image to live up to, and suddenly you find out you have a skin condition that would change your appearance. He came across at times, like he was an artist who was insecure about his looks and acceptance by others, so it would not surprise me if the gloves was part of hiding the skin condition. Then he started wearing sunglasses, and covering his face, and then the curiosity and questions began, and the public basically witnessed a metamorphosis (so-to-speak) with MJ. He basically went from being a dark-skinned Black male to a fair-skinned Black male, in a very, short period of time. Vitiligo is a slow, skin-changing process, and the skin becomes 'spotted', and takes a long time to completely lose the pigmentation over the entire body.

I believe MJ had a bleaching procedure that involved, some type of peeling process or injections, to speed up the process of his skin tone becoming one shade. It may have been a coincidence that a lot of this took place during the time the Purple Rain era took place, but I think if MJ was upfront about his vitiligo, and didn't wait to reveal it, then the suspicions about him being color-struck, shame of his Black American identity, and all the other rumors/speculation about , would not have reached the level it did during that time period.

[Edited 6/10/13 19:30pm]

A lot of pictures prove that MJ looked lighter in 1986, 1987 and then he would suddenly look darker again in 1988 and 1989, 1990. I'll post pics later when I get on my computer but that proves it wasn't bleaching process he went through those years. It was always MAKEUP MJ wore to even out his skin tone.

MJ in 1985

MJ in 1987/1988

MJ in 1989 - Vanity Fair photoshoot (his hands look even darker)

MJ in 1991

And you are misinformed about vitiligo. There's no rule as to how vitiligo should appear on one's body. I've read cases from people who suffered from slow paced vitiligo to a very rapid spread of depigmentation of vitiligo. And for a lot of people who suffer from this skin disorder, the spots don't spread all across their body evenly but rather remain certain parts of their body and it stops spreading. For some people they could only have depigmentation on their legs, for some people the spots appear more on their face and upper body. And vitiligo rarely covers one's entire body.

I understand what color you are and how light your skin looks is a big deal, especially for ethnic people. But as shy as MJ was, I don't know why people think it was so necessary for him to reveal his skin disorder during Thriller era or even earlier. "Hey guys, there seem to be these random white blotches starting to appear on my body, it's called vitiligo, and I don't know how far it will spread across my body, I don't even how many more blotches will appear and where exactly on my body as they appear randomly. Oh I also don't know if I can find a medial procedure to somehow even out my skin tone but I'm gonna be wearing lots of makeup from now on, so please do understand that's the reason why my skin color looks lighter than ever". I mean is that what you expected from MJ? At the height of his fame during Thriller ~ Bad era? Or any celebrity who suffer from vitiligo for that matter? I'm sure he would've loved to be called "spots" and teased by tabloids and the media. Any skin disorder can be very damaging to one's self confidence and it is embarrassing. I can totally understand why he tried not to speak of his skin disorder for the longest time. One of my best friends from college has psoriasis and that is her biggest insecurity especially during summer time. She even tried to hide that from her friends and boyfriend. I could be the biggest baby myself when I get allergic reaction all across my arms and I literally skipped all my classes for two weeks in a row as it even got on my face. I completely freaked out and I'm no celebrity but it really did stress me out because well I'm a human who has feelings.

Yes his skin visibly got lighter, but that's no one's business but his. He is free to present himself however he wants, because last I checked Prince often wore makeup few shades lighter than his own skin tone, and often used photoshop (although I doubt that's what it was called back in the day lol) and lightings to make himself look lighter in videos and album covers, to portray whatever that vision he had in his mind. How come it's accepted as some sort of artistic expression when it's coming from P and not MJ? And P isn't the one with skin disorder. And I know P has lighter skin than MJ but that means nothing, P is just as much a black american as Michael Jackson. And even though MJ's skin got lighter he remained close to black community always. Most famous MJ's videos feature beautiful black girls and I can't say the same about P. When he was on top of the world he visited Africa, through out the years he praised South Africa as one of the most beautiful places he'd ever been. Not to mention the amount of money he donated to African communities and he acknowledged important black figures including non-Americans. He also acknowledged Africa as the origin continent where music came from, and I'm sure it was a big deal considering that was coming from the most famous entertainer at the time. MJ has a lot smaller music catalogue compared to Prince and he has a song called Liberian Girl. etc. etc. Fact that MJ was accused of being color struck even during the 80's is something I can't quite comprehend, especially knowing P wasn't as brutally criticized regarding this issue as MJ.

[Edited 6/10/13 20:14pm]

[Edited 6/10/13 23:26pm]

Hmmm...ok, but I don't recall ever saying I was an expert on vitiligo. I basically stated the reason he probably tried to keep his vitilgo private, is because he didn't want the public to know. That's not saying I'm an expert on the subject of vitiligo, that's just my view of how I think MJ tried to keep a skin disorder private, as he had every right to do, but it would be unrealistic for many in the public to not have 'wondered' what was going on with his skin color changes, when it became apparent that something was going on with it. So it was not surprising that rumors/speculation were flying about it during that time. It was much later when it was revealed he had that skin disorder. Thing is, it really is pointless to argue which artist was 'better or more popular' when both artists' talents helped to revolutionize the musiciindustry. Those who were around from the very beginning of both artists' music career, were very fortunate to experience their early start. I appreciate both artists, and regardless of the difference of opinions about their music/stage performance/images, at the end of the day, in my book, both are appreciated, and have earned their deserving, legendary status in the music industry.

Emancipation89 said:

And I know P has lighter skin than MJ but that means nothing, P is just as much a black american as Michael Jackson.

^ Ok, and one more thing, I just couldn't help laughing at that comment, being a Black-American female myself and soooo very aware of the multitude of skin shades that exists among those who identify, racially, as Black American, such as myself. and knowing how Black American is more than just about racial identification., but that's a whole 'nother topic for a different thread. Take care.

[Edited 6/11/13 13:30pm]

thedance said: ^ My guess is it's because Prince's reputation was: he /Prince was bad (very bad) - in his songs about incest and oralsex, and about women's vaginas....

GuyBros said:

Rather than men's vaginas?




^ Come on, don't be that picky about my language. I am after all non-english... the songs I referred to is: "Vibrator" and "Sugar Walls".


The last one is on the "filthy 15" songs list.

.

[Edited 6/11/13 14:12pm]

The BAD Prince, (in this case in 1985: PMRC)

^ "Suger Walls" is on the "filthy 15" songs list that made miss Al Gore (his wife), make those Parental warning stickers, PMRC (whatever that was called).

>> Prince was extremely "bad" back then...1985... "pushing the envelope".... whatever..

The "filthy 15" songs list:

source is wikipedia:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Music_Resource_Center



.

.

[Edited 6/11/13 14:13pm]

BabyImASTAR84 said:

thedance said:

Btw: anyone remember this magazine, the cover,

The 50 greatest artists of all time:


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/RSImmortals.jpg[/img:$uid]


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/1999MTV.jpg[/img:$uid]

This guy: @ #28.


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/thrillerMTV.jpg[/img:$uid]

And this guy @ #35.




1) The Beatles by Elvis Costello
2) Bob Dylan by Robbie Robertson
3) Elvis Presley by Bono
4) The Rolling Stones by Steven Van Zandt
5) Chuck Berry by Joe Perry
6) Jimi Hendrix by John Mayer
7) James Brown by Rick Rubin
8) Little Richard by Little Richard
9) Aretha Franklin by Jerry Wexler
10) Ray Charles by Van Morrison
11) Bob Marley by Wyclef Jean
12) The Beach Boys by Lindsey Buckingham
13) Buddy Holly by John Mellencamp
14) Led Zeppelin by David Grohl
15) Stevie Wonder by Elton John
16) Sam Cooke by Art Garfunkel
17) Muddy Watters by Billy Gibbons
18) Marvin Gaye by Smokey Robinson
19) The Velvet Underground by Julian Casablancas
20) Bo Diddley by Iggy Pop
21) Otis Redding by Steve Cropper
22) U2 by Chris Martin
23) Bruce Springsteen by Jackson Browne
24) Jerry Lee Lewis by Moby
25) Fats Domino by Dr. John
26) The Ramones by Lenny Kaye
27) Nirvana by Vernon Reid
28) Prince by Ahmir Thompson
29) The Who by Eddie Vedder
30) The Clash by The Edge
31) Johnny Cash by Kris Kristofferson
32) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles by Bob Seger
33) The Everly Brothers by Paul Simon
34) Neil Young by Flea
35) Michael Jackson by Antonio "LA" Reid
36) Madonna by Britney Spears
37) Roy Orbison by K.D. Lang
38) John Lennon by Lenny Kravitz
39) David Bowie by Lou Reed
40) Simon and Garfunkel by James Taylor
41) The Doors by Marilyn Manson
42) Van Morrison by Peter Wolf
43) Sly and the Family Stone by Don Was
44) Public Enemy by Adam Yauch
45) The Byrds by Tom Petty
46) Janis Joplin by Rosanne Cash
47) Patti Smith by Shirley Manson
48) Run-DMC by Chuck D
49) Elton John by Billy Joel
50) The Band by Lucinda Williams

Nice list.

MJ is still the best selling aritst of all time with the best selling album of all time. Dosen't matter what you say or do, its FACTS!

MJ is the best and Prince is too!

Ehm, NO to your comment. MJ is not the greatest artist, neither is Prince.


The article by Rolling Stone should put these 2 artists in a "perspective".

A lot of artists are better than both Prince and Michael Jackson. The Beatles is to name one, this band will never be reached, The Beatles is untouchable, the best act the world has ever witnessed:

The 4 guys have made such an impact with their art, it's incredible. So strong song writing.

Sales vs "art":

It doesn't matter who is the biggest selling, music is not a competition.

What matters is the "product", not sales figures.

Prince can be as proud as MJ, both were great/ used to be sooo brilliant in the 80s.

Both shared their highlight in 1979 to 1995, after that both faded "away".

MJ had more single hits than Prince, but Prince made more brilliant music... quite a few more great albums.

.

thedance said:

BabyImASTAR84 said:

MJ is still the best selling aritst of all time with the best selling album of all time. Dosen't matter what you say or do, its FACTS!

MJ is the best and Prince is too!

Ehm, NO to your comment. MJ is not the greatest artist, neither is Prince.


The article by Rolling Stone should put these 2 artists in a "perspective".

A lot of artists are better than both Prince and Michael Jackson. The Beatles is to name one, this band will never be reached, The Beatles is untouchable, the best act the world has ever witnessed:

The 4 guys have made such an impact with their art, it's incredible. So strong song writing.

Sales vs "art":

It doesn't matter who is the biggest selling, music is not a competition.

What matters is the "product", not sales figures.

Prince can be as proud as MJ, both were great/ used to be sooo brilliant in the 80s.

Both shared their highlight in 1979 to 1995, after that both faded "away".

MJ had more single hits than Prince, but Prince made more brilliant music... quite a few more great albums.

.

Sales wise MJ has one of the best selling albums of all time. YOU CANT DENY THE SALES! MJ had something that Prince didn't. Prince is a GENIUS and an amazing musician! But according to music history MJ is something that Prince couldn't touch. NO SHADE!!

BabyImASTAR84 said:

Sales wise MJ has one of the best selling albums of all time. YOU CANT DENY THE SALES! MJ had something that Prince didn't. Prince is a GENIUS and an amazing musician! But according to music history MJ is something that Prince couldn't touch. NO SHADE!!

ur talking abt best selling.. yah, he made it..n congratulate on him, but good music ≠ best selling, can make best selling with cheap price with heavy promotion. there r tons of excellent album which is better than triller..

it's like mac vs windows

mac = prince, windows = mj

mac is wayyy SUPERIOR, ORIGINAL, and USEFUL, although windows is more widely used with cheap price.

[Edited 6/24/13 5:58am]

10 reasons PRINCE was the greatest artist of the 1980's:

So,we should bring up why Prince is the greatest artist of the 1980's and like W. Amadeus Mozart was the best of his time, he too, was not fully appreciated until long after his death. Although, I use the comparison between Prince and Mozart based upon the prolific out put and creativity with the works presented.

Prince went to where the music took him and creativity and art took center stage.

Music was first and that showed. Thank you Prince.

there weren't many people pointing fingers at Prince for things like his nose bridge looking thiner, getting his hair straightened or wearing lighter makeup and accusing him for being ashamed of his own race. I'm not familiar with the media back in the 80's but it was never as harsh as criticism Mj received,

well, it depends on how u think, i guess..

prince had natural lighter skin color, cuz of the mother,

in the other hand, mj turned to white too sudden..
and yah, he had vitilligo, but we all know that disease CAN BE FIXED BY TREATMENT..

but, mj choose to be white, and made up MANY unacceptable, illogical EXCUSES FOR HIS OWN CHANGE..

i think i would intersted with mj, if he'd been more honest, n admit that he changed his color cuz it LOOKED BETTER, instead of playing victim card..

prince mother

prince father

-------

mj mother(100% afro)

mj father(100% afro)

[Edited 6/22/13 11:52am]

[Edited 6/24/13 8:07am]

kewlschool said:

Prince went to where the music took him and creativity and art took center stage.

Music was first and that showed. Thank you Prince.

one of the reason why i love prince so much!

humble, n real,

love how he's just being himself which is a true artist..

Emancipation89 said:

Emancipation89 said: Hmmm...ok, but I don't recall ever saying I was an expert on vitiligo. I basically stated the reason he probably tried to keep his vitilgo private, is because he didn't want the public to know. That's not saying I'm an expert on the subject of vitiligo, that's just my view of how I think MJ tried to keep a skin disorder private, as he had every right to do, but it would be unrealistic for many in the public to not have 'wondered' what was going on with his skin color changes, when it became apparent that something was going on with it. So it was not surprising that rumors/speculation were flying about it during that time. It was much later when it was revealed he had that skin disorder. Thing is, it really is pointless to argue which artist was 'better or more popular' when both artists' talents helped to revolutionize the musiciindustry. Those who were around from the very beginning of both artists' music career, were very fortunate to experience their early start. I appreciate both artists, and regardless of the difference of opinions about their music/stage performance/images, at the end of the day, in my book, both are appreciated, and have earned their deserving, legendary status in the music industry. Emancipation89 said: And I know P has lighter skin than MJ but that means nothing, P is just as much a black american as Michael Jackson. ^ Ok, and one more thing, I just couldn't help laughing at that comment, being a Black-American female myself and soooo very aware of the multitude of skin shades that exists among those who identify, racially, as Black American, such as myself. and knowing how Black American is more than just about racial identification., but that's a whole 'nother topic for a different thread. Take care. [Edited 6/11/13 13:30pm]

2elijah, I pointed out misinformation from your post about vitiligo when you said vitiligo is a slow process and it takes a long time to completely lose the pigmentation over the entire body, as it's not always the case. I'm not an expert when it comes to skin disorders either. With vitiligo though I definitely get how unpredictable this skin disorder can appear on an individual which is the reason why various alternative treatments exist for it.

ahh, when I said it doesn't matter how light skinned one is Prince is just as much a black american as MJ, it wasn't my intention to sound preachy or somehow stereotype the meaning of "black American" by only linking the term to the racial perspective of it. Quite the opposite actually, as I tried to explain in the last paragraph of my previous post. As far as I'm aware of other than the comments made out of jealousy by Rick James, there weren't many people pointing fingers at Prince for things like his nose bridge looking thiner, getting his hair straightened or wearing lighter makeup and accusing him for being ashamed of his own race. I'm not familiar with the media back in the 80's but it was never as harsh as criticism Mj received, correct? That made me wonder, hmm these two huge black artists, why did one receive so much more mockery and accusations on being ashamed of black american identity than the other when in fact MJ was the one who never stopped publicly showing appreciation for his cultural background? Because like you I also consider "black american" to be much more than just a racial identity and skin color.

I enjoyed reading your posts, you too take care

Thanks, but like I said, I am not an expert on vitilgo, I only know a bit about it, through a friend who experienced that, as I watched how over a long, period of time, the skin color changes took place, so I will leave it at that, As far as the media, the media wasn't nice to either artist. Both received their fair share of criticism. This is my opinion only, don’t take my opinion that I speak for all. Prince did receive major criticism (some negative/some positive) from the media for his image/appearance/sexually-laced lyrics mixed with religion. Questions about his gender surfaced, and his image played into the curiosity, with his mysterious presence off-stage, which kept the media and fans’ interests. He didn’t talk much, so of course he left that trail of mystery about him, because here was this bold artist, appearing in lingerie, half-naked, makeup, heels, challenging society’s so-called standards/values, and he challenged it all in his music/stage performance/image. So yes, the media was all over him and MJ at various levels.

I remember there were parents around the Purple Rain era, who were not happy with the bold, sexually-explicit, ‘Darling Nikki’ lyrics, and it was Tipper Gore, who I believe who was one who protested hard against that song with others, and if my memory recalls, was one of the individuals responsible for getting the ‘warning label’ for parents on records, (today--including cds). It was no secret Prince has always been a bold artist, not afraid to take things to the edge with his music and image, and challenge some of society’s standards and values, and I believe that part of Prince is what attracted many fans and the media to him, besides his music/talent. He was pretty much the poster-boy for taking things to the edge in the music industry.

MJ

I felt that MJ played it safe. He didn’t use swearing in his music, and did not take his songs to the edge (so-to-speak), not that he had to. He was known for his fantastic dance moves, just like Prince, and it is clear that both artist’s dance moves were influenced by the one and only Godfather of soul, Mr. James Brown. Everybody knew the famous hand to the 3^rd leg sexual gesture, that MJ was famous for, but that’s as far as he went sexually in his dance moves compared to Prince’s. MJ was more known as the ‘King of Pop’, but in my opinion Prince was the ‘King of Rock, Pop, Soul, R&B, Funk, New wave-pop’ and then some, at that time, bringing in the Minneapolis sound with his other associated artists.

MJ made some feel good’ and safe music, as did Prince, but Prince took it over the edge a bit, and that, in and of itself received attention from the media. Thing is, they are both household and famous names in the industry, where both received either negative/positive criticism from the media/fans. It may not have been fair for people and the media to question why MJ decided to have a nose job, or had work done on his eyes or bought a chimp, giraffe and exotic animals and had a zoo in his home surroundings, but it would have been ‘unrealistic’ not to question what was going on with his skin, especially, if no one was aware he had a skin condition, and that’s more than likely why the rumors/speculations started.

MJ was a famous artist whose appearance ‘completely’ changed before the public. Also, sure many were saying he was colorstruck, and it could be because of the people he was often surrounded by and seen with the majority of the time in public . He may have had black females in his vids, but that doesn’t mean he had no color-struck or insecurity issues. Many have said the same thing about Prince, being color-struck, because many have only seen him with non-black females, especially in the 80s, in public, whether that was anybody’s business or not. It may not have been nice or fair for many in the media/fans to question/speculate about either artist, but truth be told, had twitter/fb and other social sites been around, like today, I think the criticism would have been worse. Many people will have their difference of opinions of both artists, just like you and I, but at the end fo the day, regardless of how the media or fans treated or feel about both artists, past or present, both artists have already earned their legendary status, and no one, not even the media or any fan, can take that away from them. Nice chatting with you even if we may have had a difference of opinion on this matter, and I guess I have nothing more to add this topic.

purplesnowlove said:

there weren't many people pointing fingers at Prince for things like his nose bridge looking thiner, getting his hair straightened or wearing lighter makeup and accusing him for being ashamed of his own race. I'm not familiar with the media back in the 80's but it was never as harsh as criticism Mj received,

well, it depends on how u think, i guess..

prince had natural lighter skin color, cuz of the mother,

in the other hand, mj turned to white too sudden..
and yah, he had vitilligo, but we all know that disease can be fixed by treatment..

but, mj choose to be white, and made excuses for his own change..

i think i would intersted with mj, if he'd been more honest, n admit that he changed his color cuz it looked better, instead of playing victim card..

prince father

-------

mj mother

mj father

VITILIGO IS REAL! I dont give a FUCK if you dont like MJ as an artist . however, you will NOT come at someone who clearly had a disorder. How do you know he wanted to be white? Did he tell you? Don't talk about something and make assumptions if you've NEVER been through it.Its easy to pass judgement on the outside looking in.Being that i know someone with Vitiligo, i know see how it feels to go through it.

purplesnowlove said:

lol..

Best post of June 2013!