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Reply #30 posted 06/10/13 5:05am

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^ Haha, yeah you are so right, MJ stole a few things from Prince - incl. beeing "bad"... but you better prepare yourself.

The Michael Jackson fans aren't taking this lightly.

They will come after you, now. biggrin

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Reply #31 posted 06/10/13 5:21am

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Hahaha like you guys been with MJ all the time and saw him trying to be like Prince

MJ is the one of the fashion/style people who changed guys look from afro and tight pants to a better look and style.. I wonder why they didn't imitate Prince's style cool cool Strange, huh?

In fact who's the one who been stalking MJ? I imagine this small studio of Prince when MJ's photos are all over the wall, it's like worshiping traditions when he knows all about him.. And let's face it; MJ never gave a fuck about Prince until he heard some of his best records (I'm not saying Prince has bad records...well, he does now), and even if he cared once in a while i don't see in MJ the man who's imitating others and stealing their style, his dancing, his look, his IMAGE, that's something for the imitation... and we ALL Know that the handsomeness of 80's MJ makes Prince and others look like a fuck.

: Hy P! Wassup!

: Oh man I feel ugly..

MJ: No.. I guess.

No no wait lol lol lol

Yes you are that bad. (I mean look at the gif, he says it for real)


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Reply #32 posted 06/10/13 5:27am

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^ that didn't take long.. another MJ fan in the house. lol




Michael Jackson reading about Prince:[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/Prince/MJreadingPrince-1_zpsf9195e29.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Reply #33 posted 06/10/13 5:34am

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thedance said:

^ that didn't take long.. another MJ fan in the house. lol




Michael Jackson reading about Prince

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He must've put it in the MJDump once he finished reading cool

Just look at his facial expression "This is interesting, wait... This is ugly"

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Reply #34 posted 06/10/13 5:37am

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You are such a Prince hater.. right?... lol


http://prince.org/msg/7/312485


^ cool


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Reply #35 posted 06/10/13 5:42am

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thedance said:

You are such a Prince hater.. right?... lol


http://prince.org/msg/7/312485


^ cool


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No man i just got pissed when somebody said about something, like no Prince no Bad era? That's just silly... I like Prince's music and i got all his albums (not his millenium stuff)... As i said in the oter comment, in terms of quality music and creativty, nobody's better than Prince. wink

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Reply #36 posted 06/10/13 5:49am

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^ My guess is it's because Prince's reputation was: he /Prince was bad (very bad) - in his songs about incest and oralsex, and about women's vaginas....


Prince was "bad" looooooong before MJ tried to be socalled "bad".


These threads about MJ versus Prince always turns out nasty.


I guess Prince himself - is really confident, he is such a genius as a producer, musician etc.., Prince is certainly a bigger genius than MJ i certain ways ---


ahh whatever.. I gues you won't agree, Shawy89... wink

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Reply #37 posted 06/10/13 5:55am

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Le's just say.. MJ was a better musician on his own.. Prince was also a genius on his own way... And yet Prince is one of THE FEW GREATEST artists of the 1980s... Those few may contain only 5 or 6 artists.. And everybody has the right to choose his fav to be crowned as the GREATEST.. IT's about opinions.. Thanx for discussion.

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Reply #38 posted 06/10/13 5:57am

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man, there are so many things we can talk about as far as Prince and why he was a Super Star in the 1980s than Prince comparisons

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I say they all earned their spot, they had different influences and perspectives.

There is a reason they are all still HUGE in the 2013 rip MJackson

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And Prince had respect for them all too

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But I love the OP the direction and influences he had on music and style

looking back we can see how he could have been even BIGGER and that hugeness have a longer run

But it is what it is

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Reply #39 posted 06/10/13 5:59am

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Shawy89 said:

Hahaha like you guys been with MJ all the time and saw him trying to be like Prince

MJ is the one of the fashion/style people who changed guys look from afro and tight pants to a better look and style.. I wonder why they didn't imitate Prince's style cool cool Strange, huh?

In fact who's the one who been stalking MJ? I imagine this small studio of Prince when MJ's photos are all over the wall, it's like worshiping traditions when he knows all about him.. And let's face it; MJ never gave a fuck about Prince until he heard some of his best records (I'm not saying Prince has bad records...well, he does now), and even if he cared once in a while i don't see in MJ the man who's imitating others and stealing their style, his dancing, his look, his IMAGE, that's something for the imitation... and we ALL Know that the handsomeness of 80's MJ makes Prince and others look like a fuck.


there are a lot of ppl admire prince, imitate prince u just dont know it

however, he never pretending as if he's a god or a king or sth like that! which really pisses me off

oh, and... prince was not the one who had his nose done, darling wink u said my prince ugly, u obviously didnt see mj picture around invincible era..u want the link? lol :p

mj obsessed with prince till the end of the day; i didn't say that; it's quoted by kenny ortega who worked with mj during dangerous and this is it,

mj pretended as if he is a god, and made their fans believe in every his lies.. that was really stupid! he was just a human..

go to mj fan site if u love him, this is the site for prince fans!! u are so mean..

i think one day u gonna realize that how important prince status is in the music industry

i didnt bash mj, i just speak for the truth,
hope u don't bash my idol, either smile show love, peace n be wild prince


[Edited 6/23/13 6:39am]

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Reply #40 posted 06/10/13 6:05am

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Shawy89 said:

thedance said:

You are such a Prince hater.. right?... lol


http://prince.org/msg/7/312485


^ cool


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No man i just got pissed when somebody said about something, like no Prince no Bad era? That's just silly... I like Prince's music and i got all his albums (not his millenium stuff)... As i said in the oter comment, in terms of quality music and creativty, nobody's better than Prince. wink

but thats the truth.. lol mj copied from prince.. btw i love mj, too not his hater

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Reply #41 posted 06/10/13 6:07am

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purplesnowlove

Tired of this bulshit... Let's just don't talk again about P and MJ.. Okay? It's just sick, you guys lack respect for MJ fangirling/boying all thime for nothing, I said Prince was ugly, he was.. in the 80's, that's a known fact, i said MJ is better than him in look, THAT's A FACT.. I didn't bash and i never bashed Prince as a musician... I respect him. And no need for me to go to a MJ fan site, at least they have a forum for only Prince there..., unlike the org who just dislikes MJ because he's more famous.

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Reply #42 posted 06/10/13 6:12am

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Evil blood.

I understand why Prince himself is always walking on "broken glass" about this subject.

Only Chris Rock - in 1997 - managed to make Prince talk about Michael.

That was rather funny, though.

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Reply #43 posted 06/10/13 6:20am

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I said Prince was ugly, he was.. in the 80's, that's a known fact, i said MJ is better than him in look, THAT's A FACT..

sooo, why the hell did mj tried so hard to fix his face? lol.. ur words just dont make any sens

just have no feeling with ur idol's plastic face,

if u wanna compare the plastic i think this one's looks better.. lol

btw, bin laden, hitler is famous too, many ppl dislike mj not because he's more famous,

im tired of this discussion either;


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Reply #44 posted 06/10/13 6:23am

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Hahaha like you guys been with MJ all the time and saw him trying to be like Prince

MJ is the one of the fashion/style people who changed guys look from afro and tight pants to a better look and style.. I wonder why they didn't imitate Prince's style cool cool Strange, huh?

I have always been a fan of MJ's music and will always respect and appreciate it, but are you serious? lol Do you know how many artists and fans tried to copy Prince's hairstyle/look and sound? Are you kidding me? Prince took the music industry by storm with that Minneapolis sound. Many may have tried to emulate MJ's dance moves, but many young, males (from various racial backgrounds) were trying to look like Prince and have that 'pretty man' look. Once MJ 'changed' his look completely, many of his fans questioned what was going on, and it pretty much became a sad situation, which although MJ had a major fan base, many became freaked out over his appearance and behavior. Sad but true. I remember when Micki Free replaced a member of Shalamar. Whomever was managing Shalamar at the time, was trying to make Micki Free a version of Prince. Micki Free even stated that in an interview, and said that was the image they wanted Micki Free to have because that was the 'in' look, but Micki Free could not emulate Prince's music style or stage performance. He didn't have the performance charisma that Prince had to draw fans to him, the way Prince did.

It was apparent MJ was becoming threatened by not only Prince's look, but by the success of Prince during Purple Rain. The headlines at the time on many tabloids were "Who is the real King of Pop?" and you'd see a pic of Prince and MJ together. MJ even tried to copy Prince's look and wanted to perform with him, but apparently that didn't work out. Now no disrespect to MJ's talent, as I was always a major fan of MJ's music, as well as when he was with his brothers as the Jackson5, as so many others, but after seeing the Purple Rain movie, I was amazed by Prince's performance, as were so many who saw that movie. I had heard of Prince, and listened to some of his music before the Purple Rain movie, but after seeing the Purple Rain movie, and Prince's amazing talent/stage performance, that's when I became more of a fan of his music.

Sadly, I may be treading a thin line here, and I 'm not afraid to say this, but MJ seemed to have felt threatened by a light-skinned, black man, who was often described as a 'pretty man', who played 27 instruments, and seduced audiences with his music/stage performance, and fans raved about Prince. It was apparent that MJ felt that Prince was stealing his throne, so-to-speak.

I don't think you can really compare either of these two artists to one another, because they both had/have diffferent performance styles. Prince is a musician/artist/performer, whereas MJ was a singer/performer, not really instrumentally inclined, as Prince is. So there is the difference between the two. At the end of the day, both artists revolutionized the music industry in their own way, and both became legends, which is why so many still talk about them today. Had their music not have an effect/influence on so many, neither would have achieved a world-wide fan base. So to debate which of the two was/is 'better' is really a senseless debate.

Just to add, the way I see it, there will never, ever be another MJ or Prince. These two artists were able to take the music industry by storm, and truth be told, I'm glad Prince is still around for others to have the experience to see this great musician perform live. End of story.smile

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Reply #45 posted 06/10/13 6:31am

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2elijah said:

Shawy89 said:

Hahaha like you guys been with MJ all the time and saw him trying to be like Prince

MJ is the one of the fashion/style people who changed guys look from afro and tight pants to a better look and style.. I wonder why they didn't imitate Prince's style cool cool Strange, huh?

Are you serious? Do you know how many artists and fans tried to copy Prince's hairstyle/look and sound? Are you kidding me? Prince took the music industry by storm with that Minneapolis sound. Many may have tried to emulate MJ's dance moves, but many young, males (from various racial backgroudns) were trying to look like Prince and have that 'pretty man' look. Once MJ 'changed' his look completely, many of his fans questioned what was going on, and it pretty much became a sad situation, which although MJ had a major fan base, many became freaked out over his appearance and behavior. Sad but true.


I remember when Micki Free replaced a member of Shalamar. Whomever was managing Shalamar at the time, was trying to make Micki Free a version of Prince. Micki Free even stated that in an interview, and said that was the image they wanted Micki Free to have because that was the 'in' look, but Micki Free could not emulate Prince's music style or performance-wise.



MJ became threatened by not only Prince's look, but by the success of Prince during Purple Rain. The headlines at the time on many tabloids were "Who is the real King of Pop?" and you'd see a pic of Prince and MJ together. MJ even tried to copy Prince's look and wanted to perform with him, but apparently that didn't work out. Now no disrespect to MJ's talent, as I was always a major fan of MJ's music, as well as when he was with his brothers as the Jackson5, as so many others, but after seeing the Purple Rain movie, I was amazed by Prince's performance, as were so many who saw that movie. I had heard of Prince, and listened to some of his music before the Purple Rain movie, but after seeing the Purple Rain movie, and his amazing music/stage performance, that's when I became more of a fan of his music.

Sadly, MJ felt threatened by a light-skinned, black man, who was often described as a 'pretty man', who played 27 instruments, and seduced audiences with his music/stage performance, and fans raved about Prince. It was apparent that MJ felt that Prince was stealing his throne, so-to-speak.

The Purple Rain movie exposed Prince's talent, to a much wider audience, and his fan base increased tremendously, after the Purple Rain movie. I had heard of Prnce prior to that, and my ex had his prior albums.

I don't think you can really compare either of these two artists to one another, because they both had diffferent performance styles. Prince is a musician/artist/performer, whereas MJ was a singer/performer, not really instrumentally inclined, as Prince is. So there is the difference between the two. At the end of the day, both artists revolutionized the music industry in their own way, and both became legends, which is why so many still talk about them today. Had their music not have an effect on so many, neither would have achieved a world-wide fan base. So to debate which of the two was 'better' would be a neverending debate.

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Reply #46 posted 06/10/13 6:51am

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thedance said:

^ that didn't take long.. another MJ fan in the house. lol




Michael Jackson reading about Prince:[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/Prince/MJreadingPrince-1_zpsf9195e29.jpg[/img:$uid]

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lol Why would Michael allow that pic to go out to the general public??

I think Prince had a lot more freedom in his music and appearance than what Michael may have had, there was no controlling family or previous image to have to compete agianst, Prince was just Prince how ever he chose to portray himself.

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Reply #47 posted 06/10/13 9:46am

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purplesnowlove said:

lol..

Actually Michael had been wearing Millitary Style jackets during the Thriller Era (before '97). Michael also was wearing leather jackets before P's Purple Rain Era. The motorcycle thing seems true though. Not being butthurt or anything, im just saying. this is a very intreseting observation smile

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Reply #48 posted 06/10/13 9:52am

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purplesnowlove said:

Shawy89 said:

Hahaha like you guys been with MJ all the time and saw him trying to be like Prince

MJ is the one of the fashion/style people who changed guys look from afro and tight pants to a better look and style.. I wonder why they didn't imitate Prince's style cool cool Strange, huh?

In fact who's the one who been stalking MJ? I imagine this small studio of Prince when MJ's photos are all over the wall, it's like worshiping traditions when he knows all about him.. And let's face it; MJ never gave a fuck about Prince until he heard some of his best records (I'm not saying Prince has bad records...well, he does now), and even if he cared once in a while i don't see in MJ the man who's imitating others and stealing their style, his dancing, his look, his IMAGE, that's something for the imitation... and we ALL Know that the handsomeness of 80's MJ makes Prince and others look like a fuck.


there are a lot of ppl admire prince, imitate prince u just dont know it

however, he don't pretending as if he's a god or a king or sth like that! which really pisses me off

oh, and... prince was not the one who had his nose done, darling wink u said my prince ugly, u obviously didnt see mj picture around invincible era..u want the link? lol :p

mj obsessed with prince at the end of the day; i didn't say that; it's quoted by kenny ortega who worked with mj during dangerous and this is it,

mj fans regard mj as a god, and they believe in every word he told to his fans.. that's really stupid! he's just a human..

go to mj fan site if u love him, this is the site for prince fans!! u are so mean..

i think one day u gonna realize that how important prince status is in the music industry

i didnt bash mj, i just speak for the truth,
hope u don't bash my idol, either smile show love, peace n be wild

btw, ur beloved mj reading abt prince in the newspaper..

lol

Guys, chill! No reason to call people ugly and whatnot. MJ reading about prince dosen't prove anything!!! MJ and Prince were in TONS of magazines so they were bound to see each other. Didn't Prince say "MAKE LOVE NOT WAR"?!? MJ and Prince respeceted each others artistry and we should too! biggrin

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Reply #49 posted 06/10/13 10:25am

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Shawy89 said:

Despite being a producer on his own, and writing his own material, Prince failed to have an impact on 80's music listeners, cuz y'all noticed that he had an impact on artists, on bands, on musicians, but not all the listeners who know nothing but listening, unlike MJ who managed to make everybody fall in love with his music. In terms of creativity and musicanship, nobody back then was better than Prince, but in terms of good music that doesn't lack a thing and suits everybody's taste, and shows that everyone would die to go to, MJ killed that, and MJ had a sick impact on the whole world.. he's IMO the greatest artist of 1980's because he respected what others like so he presented them a music that would last in their homes for generations.

I'm a Prince guy, but that is True, Mike was more accessible and did not allow eccentricities to spill into the music.

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Pretty much the case closed with all this MJ crap is ... he actually completely changed his image, with a mysterious quiet personality, to bleaching of his skin - yes the real reason he started bleaching his skin was because Prince was lighter & he thought that was the reason the public loved him in the Purple Rain era, to having a Apollonia type with Tatiana Thumbtzen, to trying to pretend he did all the production,etc to songs, to the original album cover for bad was MJ with lace on his face... lace? Now add later with MJ's "symbol" on history was a direct rip off of Prince's... MJ has been eating a Prince shit sandwich since 1983. The peak of MJ's Prince worship was BAD. But damn the true reason MJ died was he was trying to compete with Prince's 21 shows in 21 days. But being a complete drug addict for decades his body couldnt hold up with the schedule. He even said to Kenny Ortega while trying to do his last concert he was mumbling about Prince.. The sad thing is I can probably think of 10 more examples of MJ biting off Prince, but there isnt one the other way. It's actually pretty sad how much MJ turned in "Single White Female" for Prince.

http://youtu.be/mFcz_U62r6s

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Reply #51 posted 06/10/13 10:28am

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Shawy89 said:

Despite being a producer on his own, and writing his own material, Prince failed to have an impact on 80's music listeners, cuz y'all noticed that he had an impact on artists, on bands, on musicians, but not all the listeners who know nothing but listening, unlike MJ who managed to make everybody fall in love with his music. In terms of creativity and musicanship, nobody back then was better than Prince, but in terms of good music that doesn't lack a thing and suits everybody's taste, and shows that everyone would die to go to, MJ killed that, and MJ had a sick impact on the whole world.. he's IMO the greatest artist of 1980's because he respected what others like so he presented them a music that would last in their homes for generations.

I'm a Prince guy, but that is True, Mike was more accessible and did not allow eccentricities to spill into the music.

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This is the worst thread ever.

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Reply #53 posted 06/10/13 12:48pm

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lol..



This is so shit I got so embarrassed for the creator of this mess that I had to make it as small as possible so others can't read the text as easily lol you're welcome

1. MJ's skin tone started changing before P's. That's right P intentionally changed his skin color, at least through photoshop and makeup. I think P saw MJ becoming lighter and felt challenged, hence the cover of PR and Lovesexy lol

2. MJ wore white clothes in public waaayy before P. Sowwy.

3. MJ wore fedoras and military jacket before P did. In fact MJ wore fedora even during Motown era when all P could do was watch MJ on television and dream of getting a record deal.

4. "The Way You Make Me Feel" doesn't have any signature P sound whatsoever.

5. P went around and played MJ's music and went all "hee-hee" at live shows. MJ does Dirty Diana, big deal, and I can see P's influence in that song but it is more commonly seen as a combination of Billie Jean's lyrics and Beat It's musical style.

6. Learn how to spell VITILIGO wink

ElectricBlue said:

Pretty much the case closed with all this MJ crap is ... he actually completely changed his image, with a mysterious quiet personality, to bleaching of his skin - yes the real reason he started bleaching his skin was because Prince was lighter & he thought that was the reason the public loved him in the Purple Rain era, to having a Apollonia type with Tatiana Thumbtzen, to trying to pretend he did all the production,etc to songs, to the original album cover for bad was MJ with lace on his face... lace? Now add later with MJ's "symbol" on history was a direct rip off of Prince's... MJ has been eating a Prince shit sandwich since 1983. The peak of MJ's Prince worship was BAD. But damn the true reason MJ died was he was trying to compete with Prince's 21 shows in 21 days. But being a complete drug addict for decades his body couldnt hold up with the schedule. He even said to Kenny Ortega while trying to do his last concert he was mumbling about Prince.. The sad thing is I can probably think of 10 more examples of MJ biting off Prince, but there isnt one the other way. It's actually pretty sad how much MJ turned in "Single White Female" for Prince.

http://youtu.be/mFcz_U62r6s


Damn overly enthusiastic MJ fans scare me but then I come here and realize some P fans are just as batshit crazy if not worse lol Yeah Vitiligo is a made up skin disorder anyway, thank god you figured all that out while the world is deceived by the autopsy result of MJ's. Gee if I had your mentality, I'd be saying P started going around preaching about Johovah's Witness because MJ was JW, shaved his beard and mustache to acheive that MJ's youthful look, started giving props to JB even though the only closest JB move P could try was the signature split because MJ always said JB was his major influence.

Oh and guess what, because P grew up watching this black kid who was his age, owning the stage and adored by millions, he told himself "if Michael can do it maybe I can do it", and that's how he jumped into showbiz. Guess P owes MJ his entire life lol


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Reply #54 posted 06/10/13 12:54pm

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^ Now shut up, already damn... lol

MJ fans are so annoying and over-sensitive.. confused

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Reply #55 posted 06/10/13 12:57pm

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This is the worst thread ever.

this is the kind of thread that scares the more serious Prince fans away from the org.

maybe it is time for the lock


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Reply #56 posted 06/10/13 1:17pm

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thedance said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

This is the worst thread ever.

this is the kind of thread that scares the more serious Prince fans away from the org.

maybe it is time for the lock


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There should be an offical rule on the site banning the usage of MJ's name in a thread or anywhere else!Ugh, The Tom Foolery and the Bill Fuckery! Can't we all just get along??!?!

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Reply #57 posted 06/10/13 1:26pm

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^^The problem isn't necessarily MJ's name being mentioned in a thread. The original article already did so MJ discussion was gonna be brought up sooner or later. But this thread got all childish with that tumblr picture comparison of MJ and Prince, and denying of MJ's skin disorder. Oh and the appearance of a poster named thedance lol jk! But I only joined the circus to further entertain the clowns by showing how silly themselves are wink

In all seriousness, because MJ's influence during the 80's often mentioned and acknowledged while P's isn't, at least as often, I can certainly appreciate the article. And I can certainly see why some would consider P as the greatest artist of the 80's, just like how my friend would say that about Springsteen. It's all good wink

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Reply #58 posted 06/10/13 1:45pm

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Reply #59 posted 06/10/13 1:50pm

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Emancipation89 said:

^^The problem isn't necessarily MJ's name being mentioned in a thread. The original article already did so MJ discussion was gonna be brought up sooner or later. But this thread got all childish with that tumblr picture comparison of MJ and Prince, and denying of MJ's skin disorder. Oh and the appearance of a poster named thedance lol jk! But I only joined the circus to further entertain the clowns by showing how silly themselves are wink

In all seriousness, because MJ's influence during the 80's often mentioned and acknowledged while P's isn't, at least as often, I can certainly appreciate the article. And I can certainly see why some would consider P as the greatest artist of the 80's, just like how my friend would say that about Springsteen. It's all good wink

Exactly. The comparisons just added fuel to the fire. But hey, if you're a P fan you know good music and thats a tune we can all dance to lol

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