vc40 said:

ufoclub said:

But I don't think it's the best soundboard show by any means.

It is both qualitywise and contentwise one of the very best, if not the best.

With that version of Free? That start up of When Doves Cry or Irresistible Bitch? That lac

In my opinion:

The Parade soundboard beats it!

Beautiful Experience beats it!

SOTT soundboard beats it

Small Club Beats it

Even the Copenhagen (ithat's the one with the One and Whole Lotta Love, right?)beats it

The Act 2 soundboard is MIGHTY.

We have so much that's better that is soundboard:

Nude tours

Purple Rain tours

and many many rehearsals.

This just sounds kind of like a run through of the most basic level of performance intensity to me. Adjust that drum machine to the right speed and start playing on top. But some parts are quite enjoyable. I do like the music in "Something in the Water Does not Compute"

and really love "All Day All Night"

^ good for you

This is incredible. If you can't find it you're a moron.

ufoclub said:

vc40 said:

It is both qualitywise and contentwise one of the very best, if not the best.

With that version of Free? That start up of When Doves Cry or Irresistible Bitch? That lac

In my opinion:

The Parade soundboard beats it!

Beautiful Experience beats it!

SOTT soundboard beats it

Small Club Beats it

Even the Copenhagen (ithat's the one with the One and Whole Lotta Love, right?)beats it

The Act 2 soundboard is MIGHTY.

We have so much that's better that is soundboard:

Nude tours

Purple Rain tours

and many many rehearsals.

This just sounds kind of like a run through of the most basic level of performance intensity to me. Adjust that drum machine to the right speed and start playing on top. But some parts are quite enjoyable. I do like the music in "Something in the Water Does not Compute"

and really love "All Day All Night"

As usual, you don't know a fuck what you're talking about.

Having revisted Small club i think i prefer this to it.

so what are your favorite moments of the show? the guitar solo at the end of the noon rendezvoux is .

also something in the water is epic from beginning to end.

what are your favorite moments?

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TrueFunkSoldier2 said:

so what are your favorite moments of the show? the guitar solo at the end of the noon rendezvoux is .

also the something in the water is epic from beginning to end.

what are your favorite moments?

The ones you mentioned, PLUS the guitar solo that opens Erotic City!

i love Erotic city, probably my favourite performance of this song but Brownmark's bass throughout is bowel looseningly awesome.

I've listened to this recording many times now. Here's my ranking, from best to worst:

1. Noon Rendezvous (might have been shorter, but great overall)
2. Erotic City (that guitar intro...)
3. Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden (they've grown on me, I'd love to hear studio versions)
4. All Day, All Night (pretty cool, but a bit repetitive without the additional lyrics and overdubs)
5. Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) (never been a fan of the song, but this version's good)
6. 17 Days (a pretty much straightforward version, the jamming at the end is cool)
7. Irresistible Bitch / Possessed (way less funky than later versions)
8. Free (not bad, but the background vocals kind of ruin it)
9. When Doves Cry (bleh...)

Compared to other aftershow / one-off concert soundboards, well, it's hard to say... "Small Club" is great just for the instrumental, "Just My Imagination", and "People Without". And it's way longer.

Speaking of complete (or almost complete) aftershow / one-off concert soundboards, am I missing anything here? I've excluded really incomplete recordings (e.g. Grosse Freiheit 1988, Paisley Park 1995, etc.).

• First Avenue 1983
• First Avenue 1984
• First Avenue 1986
• First Avenue 1987
• Paisley Park 1987
• Het Paard van Troje 1988
• Cabaret Metro 1993
• DNA Lounge 1993
• Paisley Park 1994
• Glam Slam 1994 (x3)
• Glam Slam 1995
• Vega 2002

Highlights for me would be NOON RENDEZVOUS , 17 Days, Our Destiny & Something In The Water All are AMAZING.

OH and FREE !

Spinlight said:

djThunderfunk said:

This soundboard is the mix for the room, not for home listening. As good as it sounds, a multitrack recording would have to be mixed seperately for home listening to be "perfect". And, knowing Prince, there would also be many overdubs & edits.

That said, it is an EXCELLENT "bootleg" release. It is very rare for a SBD boot to be a mixed for home listening, so, it's certainly not something I would complain about.

Yeah, but I presume that the people who got ahold of the tape ran it through an EQ?

Most certainly! I'm sure they did a great job cleaning this up. However, I imagine they had a stereo mix to work with, NOT a multi-channel recording, so all their post production can do is sweeten the sound with no way to remix.

I've recorded many local bands at clubs by hooking in to the soundboard. I've found that many times, even though it was soundboard, there were major issues.

For example, often, especially in clubs (as opposed to arenas), the guitar amp(s) are so loud on stage that the soundman has the guitar very low in the mix (if not completely pulled out). It sounds good in the room because you still hear the guitars from the amps. But on tape, you only hear guitar where it bled through other mics... Obviously the soundman couldn't worry about my tape when he had a room full of paying patrons, so, no too bad for me.

I've noticed this kind of thing on SBD boots as well. That said, I still LOVE this release!!

bigd74 said:

i love Erotic city, probably my favourite performance of this song but Brownmark's bass throughout is bowel looseningly awesome.

True, the bass playing is incredible! It also has that aspect of a soft unique tone like on the track Cloreen Baconskin at times.

TrueFunkSoldier2 said:

so what are your favorite moments of the show? the guitar solo at the end of the noon rendezvoux is .

also something in the water is epic from beginning to end.

what are your favorite moments?

[Edited 5/18/11 2:57am]

My favorite live show next the the 1983 Benefit Concert

years later can still feel the electricity of what was about 2 happen

Our Destiny

Roadhouse Garden

Free

Something in the Water Does Not Computer (totally raw and unrestrained)

Erotic City

Possessed

djThunderfunk said:

Spinlight said:

Yeah, but I presume that the people who got ahold of the tape ran it through an EQ?

Most certainly! I'm sure they did a great job cleaning this up. However, I imagine they had a stereo mix to work with, NOT a multi-channel recording, so all their post production can do is sweeten the sound with no way to remix.

I've recorded many local bands at clubs by hooking in to the soundboard. I've found that many times, even though it was soundboard, there were major issues.

For example, often, especially in clubs (as opposed to arenas), the guitar amp(s) are so loud on stage that the soundman has the guitar very low in the mix (if not completely pulled out). It sounds good in the room because you still hear the guitars from the amps. But on tape, you only hear guitar where it bled through other mics... Obviously the soundman couldn't worry about my tape when he had a room full of paying patrons, so, no too bad for me.

I've noticed this kind of thing on SBD boots as well. That said, I still LOVE this release!!

Huh, that's pretty cool. Never knew about that sort of thing.

Well, all I can say is that the mix here sounds preferable to my ears. I'm usually very critical of the Purple Rain tour shows because I just find it too dense and the keyboards drown everything out. This mix has Brownmark particularly high (you can REALLY hear him popping on "Roadhouse Garden" and "All Day All Night") and the drums sound low enough. They usually drown everything but the synths out on PR shows, imo!

But yeah its a great release.

vitriol said:

ufoclub said:

With that version of Free? That start up of When Doves Cry or Irresistible Bitch?

This just sounds kind of like a run through of the most basic level of performance intensity to me. Adjust that drum machine to the right speed and start playing on top. But some parts are quite enjoyable. I do like the music in "Something in the Water Does not Compute"

and really love "All Day All Night"

As usual, you don't know a fuck what you're talking about.

At the least, you got you name right!

Spinlight said:

Well, all I can say is that the mix here sounds preferable to my ears. I'm usually very critical of the Purple Rain tour shows because I just find it too dense and the keyboards drown everything out. This mix has Brownmark particularly high (you can REALLY hear him popping on "Roadhouse Garden" and "All Day All Night") and the drums sound low enough. They usually drown everything but the synths out on PR shows, imo!

But yeah its a great release.

I have to agree!!

ufoclub said:

vc40 said:

It is both qualitywise and contentwise one of the very best, if not the best.

With that version of Free? That start up of When Doves Cry or Irresistible Bitch? That lac

In my opinion:

The Parade soundboard beats it!

Beautiful Experience beats it!

SOTT soundboard beats it

Small Club Beats it

Even the Copenhagen (ithat's the one with the One and Whole Lotta Love, right?)beats it

The Act 2 soundboard is MIGHTY.

We have so much that's better that is soundboard:

Nude tours

Purple Rain tours

and many many rehearsals.

This just sounds kind of like a run through of the most basic level of performance intensity to me. Adjust that drum machine to the right speed and start playing on top. But some parts are quite enjoyable. I do like the music in "Something in the Water Does not Compute"

and really love "All Day All Night"

so what you're really complaining about is the level of playing by Prince and the Revloution. not the quality of the recording or the setlist. even if it's not the most rehearsed, over-worked performance of his career (and thank god it's not, we've gotten plenty of those in the last 4 years), it's energetic, the setlist is eclectic and rare, and it's a brilliant young artist on the eve of superstardom testing out brand new material, some of which he would never release in his own name, or at all, in front of an intimate audience on his birthday.

okay, so Prince and the band flubbed some stuff. that really disqualifies it as one of the greatest shows, in the greatest quality that we've ever heard?

come on. you can't see the forest for the trees. for my money (and in the case of bootlegs, that means NO MONEY), I'd much rather hear a flawed warm-up show with a far out selection of songs in great quality than the 18th soundboard of a Purple Rain or Nude Tour arena performance.

olb99 said:

I've listened to this recording many times now. Here's my ranking, from best to worst:

Noon Rendezvous (might have been shorter, but great overall)

17 Days (a pretty much straightforward version, the jamming at the end is cool)

Irresistible Bitch / Possessed (way less funky than later versions)

When Doves Cry (bleh...)

wow, couldn't disagree more on these. Noon Rendezvous is a rather perfunctory performance and could have been much longer. that 20 minute version on Purple Rush (or whatever) absolutely slays me. it draws the song out to reflect the longing and unrequited tension. the funky interlude preceding it is a nice touch though, but would probably be better suited as the intro to Erotic City.

17 Days is anything but a straightforward version. in fact, the song is only there as an excuse for some very loose bluesey and funky jamming. his vocal completely takes the tension out of it and makes it a too-cool-for-the-room work-out.

Irresistible Bitch and Possessed are much better here, in my opinion. some straightforward funky jamming and a good exercise to show off the band instead of just being used as the backdrop for some onstage visual vamping, as they were used in the Purple Rain shows.

When Doves Cry... flubbing the first line aside, one of the best actuall performances of the song. this was before he'd mutated it into some convoluted version to suit his band lineups in the later 80's and in the past decade to accomodate the roughly 18,000 musicians and background singers on stage that felt the need to bludgeon you over the head with it (i.e., this is a song John Blackwell should never be allowed near). the song builds and builds, especially throughout the second half, with a rising tension all the way until the end. he takes the album version, which would be near-impossible to recreate with a band, and turns it into a funky crecscendo with tons of tension that works you up over and over to the next level as the codas repeat ad infinitum.

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errant said:

When Doves Cry... flubbing the first line aside, one of the best actuall performances of the song. this was before he'd mutated it into some convoluted version to suit his band lineups in the later 80's and in the past decade to accomodate the roughly 18,000 musicians and background singers on stage that felt the need to bludgeon you over the head with it (i.e., this is a song John Blackwell should never be allowed near). the song builds and builds, especially throughout the second half, with a rising tension all the way until the end. he takes the album version, which would be near-impossible to recreate with a band, and turns it into a funky crecscendo with tons of tension that works you up over and over to the next level as the codas repeat ad infinitum.

Yeah, ad infinitum. In other words, it's way too long.

I agree that it's an interesting version from an "historical" point of view, but the studio version is still vastly superior.

Graycap23 said:

mordang said:

Whoever freed it, thank you. I'm happy with this recording.

Just curious. A soundboard recording of a Prince concert surfaces 27 years later.

Who do u think the source would be?

You'd think you'd be done being wrong after being so spectacularly wrong a couple of years ago.

But noooooo, now you need to be wrong about something that has been pointlessly debated to death years ago. Hey, why don't you ask your good buddy Prince about this?

BartVanHemelen said:

Graycap23 said:

Just curious. A soundboard recording of a Prince concert surfaces 27 years later.

Who do u think the source would be?

You'd think you'd be done being wrong after being so spectacularly wrong a couple of years ago.

But noooooo, now you need to be wrong about something that has been pointlessly debated to death years ago. Hey, why don't you ask your good buddy Prince about this?

Ohh lawrd............

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[Edited 5/19/11 6:09am]

NAMOR3000 said:

Can anyone tell me how to convert FLAC files to MP3 format? I'd appreciate it.

please don't ruin this fantastic stuff by degrading it to sucky inferior compressed mp3

that defeats the whole purpose of FLAC

you can burn FLAC files with burrrrn (freeware)

http://download.chip.eu/n...88781.html

Jestyr said:

NAMOR3000 said:

Can anyone tell me how to convert FLAC files to MP3 format? I'd appreciate it.

You could skip that and burn FLAC files directly to CDR with this: http://download.cnet.com/...52698.html

ah you beat me to it

Dewrede said:

NAMOR3000 said:

Can anyone tell me how to convert FLAC files to MP3 format? I'd appreciate it.

please don't ruin this fantastic stuff by degrading it to sucky inferior compressed mp3

that defeats the whole purpose of FLAC

you can burn FLAC files with burrrrn (freeware)

http://download.chip.eu/n...88781.html

If you have an iPod, iPhone, or other mp3 player, go ahead and convert to mp3 for your player if you want to.

Just, please, don't disseminate the files in that format, if you want to share the bootleg with others, share the FLAC files as you obtained them.

There, everybody's happy now, right?

djThunderfunk said:

Dewrede said:

please don't ruin this fantastic stuff by degrading it to sucky inferior compressed mp3

that defeats the whole purpose of FLAC

you can burn FLAC files with burrrrn (freeware)

http://download.chip.eu/n...88781.html

If you have an iPod, iPhone, or other mp3 player, go ahead and convert to mp3 for your player if you want to.

Just, please, don't disseminate the files in that format, if you want to share the bootleg with others, share the FLAC files as you obtained them.

There, everybody's happy now, right?