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Volkskrant Interview
http://www.volkskrant.nl/...komt.dhtml
U heeft onlangs het internet doodverklaard terwijl u als een van de eerste artiesten de mogelijkheden van het internet om uw muziek te verkopen omarmde. Wat was de oorzaak van dit nieuwe inzicht?
You have recently called the Internet dead, while you were one of the first artists who has embraced the possibilities of the Internet to sell your music. What was the reason you said this?
Edit: And thanks to Thrashcat for translating the rest of the interview:
You've said the record-industrie goodbye about twenty years ago. How do you still want to sell your music?. I want to combine album sales with ticket sales. I'll ask an extra 5dollar per concertticket, but you'll get the latest cd for free. And with that, I earn more money then with regular album sales and the fans get the latest Prince album. At the moment I'm negotiating with Warner Europe to distribute the 20TEN album. It was distributed in some countries within a newspaper, which is also a nice way to reach the public. But in The Netherlands and many more countries this didn't happen, so I have to find another way to solve this.
I thought Warner Music was your biggest enemy because the wouldn't give the master tapes of all your classic albums? Yes, but that situation is about to change. Those contracts get outdated, right know I'm at the point that each year, another record is being given back to me. If all the masters of all the Warner records - until the nineties I recall - are back to me, I can finally release them with a better sound quality. I've never had a fight with Warner Europe. The problem was in America. At Warner I felt like I was a part of a real family. But suddenly my father, mother, brothers and sisters were gone and I was there just on my own.
But still the records like Purple Rain, Sign O The Times and Parade are the ones everybody talks about. Isn't it bothering you that all your work from the past 15year hasn't been that famous/notorious? No, It's all my music, I'm just as close with my new work as I was earlier on. I'm still daily in my studio at my house and I still record a lot. There are three albums ready to release, that mean as much to me as those old records do to you. A new album from me maybe won't be very impressive to you, but whose album can be that groundbreaking at the moment?
If the new work means that much to you, why do you play evening to evening the same old work from the eighties? Beacause that's what the public comes for. I know that my recent work is less popular. So if there are 15.000 people here tonight in the arena, I'm not gonna be obstinate. Do you think it's cool to come to a party where the DJ is playing unknown music very loudly for the entire evening? Giving concerts for such a big crowd is still the thing I like the best. Making records is mostly for the real collector-fans. But for enjoying my concerts, you don't need to by my newest albums.
Can it still be fun to play those same old hits every evening? While you compose a lot of new music? - Prince graps his guitar and begins to play the old 'Controversy'- "How can this ever bore me? It's beautiful, right? And I make it different every time. All the old Prince songs sound different every evening. Besides, I'm changing my band every few years, with that it's still a bit exciting for me to. When I was in Belgium earlier this year, I had a different Bass-play and a different drummer in my band. That's why I quickly set up this European tour. Don't get me wrong, but I love Europe. But these concerts are some sort of rehearsels for my American tour. In fact, I just need about ten shows before I am in perfect shape.
America has been chosen as a theme for a song many times in your music. The new tour is going to call 'Welcome 2 America'. How do you see the developments in your country right now? It's a strange country. I've always been very optimistic and I still have good hopes, but we have to learn to share our properties. What Obama did great was that he proved and confirmed that a very big group of people in our country don't want to share anything at all but rather keep it for themselves. That's something that really needs to change, or else it will go wrong terribly.
[Edited 11/9/10 8:44am] [Edited 11/10/10 10:00am] You mean you're gonna actually hear what we play tonight? You're not gonna make up the notes in your mind? | |
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What a 2-faced asshole!
The internet is only good when it suites his purpose but no one elses. Especially if he's not getting paid for it.
When is that asshole gonna learn that most of the fans are still fans only because of boots that were available for live shows and unreleased stuff he chools to keep back.
I can't believe he even talked about searching for a boot....
Time is a trick asshole.... remember those words.
Man I hate his double talk and mind changes when it only suites him. [Edited 11/9/10 9:22am] "
First I need a picture of your mother, to verify the fact that there's not another one in the universe so supreme!!" | |
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Nailed it. He's a Gemini. What do you expect? I know we have heard the line "I got two sides and they're both friends." In this case, it appears by the comment he said in the paper, his two sides are uneven. | |
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Thanks for the snippet Yes, at 19, I finally saw the Revolution, a legendary band. And I talked to Wendy!!! In addition to seeing Prince, I have now lived life. Thank you Purple People!! | |
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[Edited 11/9/10 9:22am]
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That's indeed the way I interpreted the Dutch text, and although we don't have the original English quote (and as the original link says Prince also used his only-notepad-no-sound-recording rule) I'm pretty sure that's what he meant. I apologize for the bad translation, but my English isn't that good. But I figured, a bad translation is always better than no translation
You're welcome. I'll post and translate pieces of the article tomorrow as well, if it's interesting stuff. You mean you're gonna actually hear what we play tonight? You're not gonna make up the notes in your mind? | |
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Two sides huh? Yeah we know big p we know! | |
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Personally, I'm not interested in jumping through Prince's hoops to distract me from how bad the music is. | |
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Wanna know how I see the Internet? I see it as a party where everyone is wearing exactly the same clothes.'
yes, thats just how you perceive it, prince, because maybe you cant tell the difference between real and fake. some might say thats pretty obvious.
you view the internet as a 'party'? interesting. did you have a good time at everyone else's expense?
no offence, but it might be possible that your perspective on so many things is not so near the mountain-top view you once had.
adventure? lies within. the internet simply reflects that process. if you cant see it then perhaps the new world is not for you, but thanks for clarifying so many thing in one sentence.
wishing you all the best in the physical dimension. it suits you.
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p.s. the internet was invented for sharing, then bill gates came along and infected it with money.
heaven forbid there should be any avenue for people to come together and practice our true nature of equality and freedom.
apparently, that kind of utopian ideal is offensive to some, when ego demands to be rewarded for its skill-sets across the board.
apparently, its not enough to be able to earn money offline, no, we must attempt to force the internet to bend to the ways of patriarchal dinosaurs who equate money with 'appreciation'.
and if we are unsuccessful in our silly attempt, then we will critisize the internet and everyone on it, cuz freedom and equality are so passe.
but at least prince's ego has revealed its true motives, down there, where the 'adventure' is. or did he simply open his mouth on something he does not understand?
i guess thats the more likely scenario. he does it so often. this too shall pass | |
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o be fair, when Prince said the internet is dead, he compared it to MTV, which, since it is still around, is clearly not literally dead--to Prince, it's culturally dead, meaning that it doesn't have anything important or interesting to say anymore about music or where it is going or where it should go. I don't think it's two-faced to say the internet is dead and still use the internet or to object to bootlegging and admit to having bought boots in the past. After all, opinions can change. Now, I don't agree with the entirety of that "internet is dead/cultural relevance" sentiment, but it's not a hypocritical or ludicrous argument.
You nailed it on the head and I am still amazed at the lack of reading comprehension skills on this board. If you read the interview Prince did he compared the internet to MTV and said it was tired and dead to him and you can certainly figure out that the Lotusflower site was not a financialsuccess.
I honest cannot figure out why some of you did not understand the comment about the internet and still do not get it. [Edited 11/9/10 16:58pm] | |
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Actually the internet was invented for communication (which I guess you can define as 'sharing information') within private networks, not sharing more generally defined unless you completely abstract its creation from the environment it was created in (i.e. the US, the land of private property (capitalism), not of sharing). Change it one more time.. | |
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i get it. he's blaming the internet for a lot of things but the internet is not the problem.
he's blaming the medium, instead of the source of the problem.
he says people dont appreciate music for what it is anymore. that is not the internet's fault.
he's looking at this issue at face value and making a judgment call at face value.
people stopped appreciating musi for what it is when corporate greed over-ran the music industry and served us up a whole decade of horrible music and plastic pop stars.
when you serve the public junk food, they will treat it like junk food. they will see it for exactly what it is. junk food.
those same people then get on the net (record companies and the junk food artists) and use the internet to make money.
the internet has been infected by a HUMAN PROBLEM. not the other way around.
prince says he sees the net as a party where everyone is wearing the same clothes. no, not everyone is, but i know what he means.
the problem is that he doesnt look any deeper into it than that, to understand WHY that has happened.
the internet didnt decide all of its own accord to water-down its content - PEOPLE DID.
people who's motivations are questionable at best - ludicrous to the sane - and laughable to those of us left with a sense of humor.
receiving money for something does not - and has never - equated with being 'appreciated'.
it is regarded as a symbol of appreciation because we are conditioned by the SYSTEM to believe we need money to get something. we do not.
i dont condone theft of music, but i honestly believe that artists who use the internet to make money will meet their karma for doing so, by having their music 'stolen'/ downloaded for free.
the net is for sharing. period. plenty of artists give their audience free downloads and make their money OFFLINE.
its not that hard, and i wish prince would seriously think twice before making comments on a situation he may believe he as thought through properly, but has not.
the lotusflow3r failure was a direct reflection of his own mindset at the time - his egomaniacal mindset which believes he is automatically entitled to receive monetary reward and constant praise - simply for existing.
thats not entirely his fault because he too has been conditioned by a system of thought which has told him for 30 years that he's fantastic, can do anything he wants,
and people will cheer him for it, even when times move on and new ways of doing things are necessary in order to make things work. no. apprently he believes he can stick to the old way and get the same returns.
he is blinded by draconian conditioning, surrounded by people who wont even dare to think, let alone slap the TRUTH on his desk,
and he continues to fail to address this issue at the level it truly deserves by accepting responsibility for his failure to move with the times and new ways of doing things.
he has been told for years and years to give his music away for FREE on the net and make his money offline. he has not listened because his EGO doesnt want to hear it.
his EGO has cut him off a higher way of thought and landed him on stages in europe performing like a pony to audiences who want the 'old prince'.
he is exactly where his EGO has put him, in the dark underworld of a nice safe comfort zone, where nobody says NO PRINCE
and those equally as blind as him kiss his ass, take photos, worship his flesh, and enjoy the days of old while they listen to his hits in concert.
instead of 'getting on the boat' with everyone else, he jumped ship and chose the safe route instead.
i understand his ideology, but i dont agree with his views on the net, and i dont agree with him blaming the net.
with prince, its always someone else's fault. god forbid he should ever look at himself for who's to blame.
that wouldnt fit in with his 'image'. this too shall pass | |
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WHOA! I don't think that Prince realizes how deep most of his fans are. | |
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He is talking about REMASTERING! | |
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I think I'll hit the shops today for a fresh Volkskrant, the entire interview is not available on the internet. Have a look at 'The W2A: Euro Tour Song Survey' http://prince.org/msg/12/362417 | |
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...Where....in the full interview? | |
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we all know prince talks nonsense but i DO agree with him on the point that the internet has devalued music...there has always been sharing and copying music going on but the internet has made i t soo easy for some artist's complete works to be downloaded in almost perfect quality to anyone... . .now i know that prince is a multi millionaire but i think if it was you or me....that fact would annoy the hell out of us....your life's work costs next to nothing ?... . i have downloaded prince stuff now and again but i have bought every album he has every released and spend thousands on concerts and travel so i do so without feeling like i have ripped him off but this ain't the case with most downloaders.. . so i can see his views on this... . .my solution would be to put a levy on internet use in general...say 5 pounds a month ...and for that ...you can download whatever you want and the money would be given to the copyright holders of the work that has been downloaded depending on how many times their work has been downloaded...i am not an internet expert but i would rather pay a levy than lose my internet connection... [Edited 11/10/10 1:38am] | |
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yes. | |
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Can u share some details please?
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I'll try to translate some of the things mentioned:
You've said the record-industrie goodbye about twenty years ago. How do you still want to sell your music?. I want to combine album sales with ticket sales. I'll ask an extra 5dollar per concertticket, but you'll get the latest cd for free. And with that, I earn more money then with regular album sales and the fans get the latest Prince album. At the moment I'm talking with Warner Eruope to distribute the 20TEN album. It was distributed in some countries within a newspaper, which is also a nice way to reach the public. But in The Netherlands and many more countries this didn't happen, so I have to find another way to solve this. [Edited 11/10/10 5:14am] Have a look at 'The W2A: Euro Tour Song Survey' http://prince.org/msg/12/362417 | |
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America has been chosen as a theme for a song many times in your music. The new tour is going to call 'Welcome 2 America'. How do you see the developments in your country right now? It's a strange country. I've always been very optimistic and I still have good hopes, but we have to learn to share our properties. What Obama did great was that he proved and confirmed that a very big group of people in our country don't want to share anything at all but rather keep it for themselves. That's something that really needs to change, or else it will go wrong terribly. Have a look at 'The W2A: Euro Tour Song Survey' http://prince.org/msg/12/362417 | |
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Can u translate the part where he talked about the remasters?
Thanx 100 times in advance
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Thanks Trashcat.
I'm happy to hear that he sees the enormous strides Barack Obama has taken; what it has cost Obama in backlash and that Prince recognises the integrity and dignity that a leader like Obama offers to his nation.
He also mentioned Africa in the other article, so he must be aware that the division between rich and poor is rampant on that continent, all because of ultimate capitalism, clothed in colonialism, and that the consequences were/are devastating.
Robinhood. "A party where everyone is wearing the same clothes" is maybe just a referral to the mass amount of people on the net, where unique individual identity is blurred and that reality and real life "the adventure" takes place offline. Online we do not experience each other's voice/accent/ informative unintentional body language signals/and we don't see each other. We only have text to represent ourselves, the same smilies and avatars; yet every human being on the planet is completely unique. Online we are stripped of some of that individuality.
A recent party report also said that Prince said, don't look to the heavens but look at yourself (it was something to that effect in the Antwerp Concert thread). People, do "make" the internet. Our collective desires cause demand via the medium. And when things get too easy, I'm sure you can agree with anything in life....we tend to take things for granted. Natural human phenomena unfortunately. I don't think he's only blaming the internet.
Blackbob's idea about an internet levy is an interesting one. [Edited 11/10/10 7:14am] "Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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Interesting comment about Obama, and in more ways than one, I agree that some in America don't want to share slices of the American pie with others. [Edited 11/10/10 16:21pm] | |
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Hmmm,
I'll make time for it, guess I can't milk my parakeets tonight then Have a look at 'The W2A: Euro Tour Song Survey' http://prince.org/msg/12/362417 | |
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If u can translate...it's cool...if u can't...don't worry....thanx anyway!
PS>No one has quoted the part of the article about the remasters...so maybe there is nothing really interresting about this paragraph? | |
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I thought Warner Music was your biggest enemy because the wouldn't give the master tapes of all your classic albums? Yes, but that situation is about to change. Those contracts get outdated, right know I'm at the point that each year, another record is being given back to me. If all the masters of all the Warner records - until the nineties I recall - are back to me, I can finally release them with a better sound quality. I've never had a fight with Warner Europe. The problem was in America. At Warner I felt like I was a part of a real family. But suddenly my father, mother, brothers and sisters were gone and I was there just on my own. Have a look at 'The W2A: Euro Tour Song Survey' http://prince.org/msg/12/362417 | |
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