udo said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Anyone who thinks WB are just gonna give up those albums once they turn 35 years old, is naive.

Either Prince strikes a deal or they'll see him in court. And while he likes to threaten to sue people, he HATES being in court.

You mean that WB can (legally?) hold the albums hostage from Prince?

Those laws are vague and open for interpretation. And have been changed repeatedly.

Prince could have "fixed" this back in 1992 when he was renegociating his contract. But instead of looking at the bigger picture, he was blinded by the bling and was far more interested in having this ridiculous "bigegst recording contract ever" title than in looking at what this actually involved. That's the same mentality that has been ruining his career for years: shortsightedness.

udo said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Anyone who thinks WB are just gonna give up those albums once they turn 35 years old, is naive.

Either Prince strikes a deal or they'll see him in court. And while he likes to threaten to sue people, he HATES being in court.

You mean that WB can (legally?) hold the albums hostage from Prince?

Probably. As Bart said, the laws are vague and open to interpretation. Especially when they were first passed, right around the time that he signed his first contract and was putting out "For You." He's probably fine for the later stuff, but anything under that first contract (which I think covered up through Purple Rain?) might be open to a legal battle. Unless later contracts clarified those specific terms. Of course, considering how that last contract went down, and all the pissing and moaning about not owning his masters, I can't imagine he had the foresight to negotiate on that level of minutiae.

jseven said:

errant said:

of course he's being fed. this was never more evident than earlier this year when he completely skipped over ALL of the news about Prince's lawsuit and tax problems and website problems (you know, the actual NEWS) and only reported on new tracks at a local MPLS public radio station and exclusive news on an Ebony cover story.

which is fine. I have no problem with it. if that's what he wants to be, that's fine. and if that's how Prince wants to disseminate info, that's fine too. but let's not pretend that there are any "news" items at Dr. Funkenberry regarding Prince that haven't been emailed in press release form to him by the Prince camp.

It was explained why the tax issue was not discussed on the site but perhaps the eyes saw past it? I am sure you can feed yourself at times and not be fed everything?

Posted April 3rd, 2010

As for your question about Prince and his “financial woes” not being discussed here on drfunkenberry.com, let me say this;

the comedian Sinbad and Nicolas Cage are in more of a pickle than him. Check my site. I did not talk about Sinbad’s tax woes or Cage’s tax woes. From a journalistic point of view, I stuck to what I always did which was not report on star’s taxes.

Also, if I read it correctly, he owes like under $3 million to a promoter and about $450,000 in taxes. Let’s see…..he makes about $3 million per show so he does 2 shows and he is out of the problem. Hmm. Sure doesn’t sound like a problem to me. If you worked for 2 days, would your money woes be cured? OK then…..

[Edited 6/23/10 18:22pm]

Yeah, I couldn't care less about an entertainer's tax situation or who they owe money to, that is NOT news, it's personal accounting business. I care about the MUSIC and performances, not the checking account balance.

BartVanHemelen said:

udo said:

You mean that WB can (legally?) hold the albums hostage from Prince?

Those laws are vague and open for interpretation. And have been changed repeatedly.

Prince could have "fixed" this back in 1992 when he was renegociating his contract. But instead of looking at the bigger picture, he was blinded by the bling and was far more interested in having this ridiculous "bigegst recording contract ever" title than in looking at what this actually involved. That's the same mentality that has been ruining his career for years: shortsightedness.

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shortsightedness on P part or on his original managment team who should have fixed the problem around the Purple Rain era when he had much pull at WB.

Serena said:

jseven said:

It was explained why the tax issue was not discussed on the site but perhaps the eyes saw past it? I am sure you can feed yourself at times and not be fed everything?

Posted April 3rd, 2010

As for your question about Prince and his “financial woes” not being discussed here on drfunkenberry.com, let me say this;

the comedian Sinbad and Nicolas Cage are in more of a pickle than him. Check my site. I did not talk about Sinbad’s tax woes or Cage’s tax woes. From a journalistic point of view, I stuck to what I always did which was not report on star’s taxes.

Also, if I read it correctly, he owes like under $3 million to a promoter and about $450,000 in taxes. Let’s see…..he makes about $3 million per show so he does 2 shows and he is out of the problem. Hmm. Sure doesn’t sound like a problem to me. If you worked for 2 days, would your money woes be cured? OK then…..

[Edited 6/23/10 18:22pm]

Yeah, I couldn't care less about an entertainer's tax situation or who they owe money to, that is NOT news, it's personal accounting business. I care about the MUSIC and performances, not the checking account balance.

"t's personal accounting business."

it is personal but plenty of noisey asses on this board love to go on about how P is on the brink of financial ruin. (LOL)

Extra! Extra! Prince To Release New CD Via Newspaper; WB Update

Prince’s new CD 20Ten (some title) will be released first through a Belgium newspaper on July 10. An interview took place with the newspaper which teases the release.

Other newspaper deals may follow as deals were trying to be reached. Warner Bros. was mentioned as releasing the CD to other countries not participating in the newspaper giveaway. More than likely that means the U.S. as when he did the giveaway before, the U.S. was not part of it.

As we previously reported, Prince met with Warner Bros. Records on Tuesday, and the distribution deal appears to already be in place. We have learned what was discussed was the deal, but also something else. So, this distribution deal could actually lead to something else. Hmm. I still want a live DVD.

Tuesday night, Prince attended a show by Cassandra Wilson in Hollywood. As we mentioned before, he is in town for the BET Awards this Sunday where he is recieveng the Lifetime Achievement Award, but is not performing.

http://www.drfunkenberry....e/#respond

Release all the stuff on remastered double pack cd's with intersting "extras" like Bowie etc

Serena said:

jseven said:

It was explained why the tax issue was not discussed on the site but perhaps the eyes saw past it? I am sure you can feed yourself at times and not be fed everything?

Posted April 3rd, 2010

As for your question about Prince and his “financial woes” not being discussed here on drfunkenberry.com, let me say this;

the comedian Sinbad and Nicolas Cage are in more of a pickle than him. Check my site. I did not talk about Sinbad’s tax woes or Cage’s tax woes. From a journalistic point of view, I stuck to what I always did which was not report on star’s taxes.

Also, if I read it correctly, he owes like under $3 million to a promoter and about $450,000 in taxes. Let’s see…..he makes about $3 million per show so he does 2 shows and he is out of the problem. Hmm. Sure doesn’t sound like a problem to me. If you worked for 2 days, would your money woes be cured? OK then…..

[Edited 6/23/10 18:22pm]

Yeah, I couldn't care less about an entertainer's tax situation or who they owe money to, that is NOT news, it's personal accounting business. I care about the MUSIC and performances, not the checking account balance.

PurpleLove7 said:

Extra! Extra! Prince To Release New CD Via Newspaper; WB Update

Prince’s new CD 20Ten (some title) will be released first through a Belgium newspaper on July 10. An interview took place with the newspaper which teases the release.

Other newspaper deals may follow as deals were trying to be reached. Warner Bros. was mentioned as releasing the CD to other countries not participating in the newspaper giveaway. More than likely that means the U.S. as when he did the giveaway before, the U.S. was not part of it.

As we previously reported, Prince met with Warner Bros. Records on Tuesday, and the distribution deal appears to already be in place. We have learned what was discussed was the deal, but also something else. So, this distribution deal could actually lead to something else. Hmm. I still want a live DVD.

Tuesday night, Prince attended a show by Cassandra Wilson in Hollywood. As we mentioned before, he is in town for the BET Awards this Sunday where he is recieveng the Lifetime Achievement Award, but is not performing.

http://www.drfunkenberry....e/#respond

Thanks for the news.

jeidee said:

lol talk about a cliffhanger.

anyway, remasters yay!!! i totally agree about the sound quality of the albums including sign of the times...

so excited!!

Don't be. He's probably gone to challenge royalties on the difference of 2 album sales

xlr8r said:

vitriol said:

Ha!

So now the poor slave is knocking his old masters' door...

If after all he's said and done against WB he'd be willing to work with them again for monetary reasons this would be the lamest and most pathetic Prince move of his entire career.

If I were WB's CEO I'd just tell this mofo to fuck off and to please close the door after leaving.

The guy has no sense of shame at all. He's just a whore.

Both him and us LOST a lot when he left WB and the only really good thing we got after that was The Rainbow Children. I really miss the WB years.

But if he's now trying to step back we would lose the little credibility he has left.

Log off.

BUSINESS is BUSINESS is BUSINESS. Only the STRONG and TALENTED Survive in the MUSIC PROFESSION. HE did in the PAST. In the PRESENT and in the FUTURE. Gemini Sun Sign, SCORPIO Rising. Be afraid, Be very afraid !

Dalia11 said:

xlr8r said:

Log off.

BUSINESS is BUSINESS is BUSINESS. Only the STRONG and TALENTED Survive in the MUSIC PROFESSION. HE did in the PAST. In the PRESENT and in the FUTURE. Gemini Sun Sign, SCORPIO Rising. Be afraid, Be very afraid !

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Dalia11 said:

xlr8r said:

Log off.

BUSINESS is BUSINESS is BUSINESS. Only the STRONG and TALENTED Survive in the MUSIC PROFESSION. HE did in the PAST. In the PRESENT and in the FUTURE. Gemini Sun Sign, SCORPIO Rising. Be afraid, Be very afraid !

Well WB is not the same company when P was around. Warner Brother sold the music division to a private equity group and it looks like WB will be doing the distrubution. Big difference between being signed to WB and having them distrubute the CD. After all the crap about the WB stuff you would think some of you know it alls would be a little more informed.

laurarichardson said:

Dalia11 said:

BUSINESS is BUSINESS is BUSINESS. Only the STRONG and TALENTED Survive in the MUSIC PROFESSION. HE did in the PAST. In the PRESENT and in the FUTURE. Gemini Sun Sign, SCORPIO Rising. Be afraid, Be very afraid !

Well WB is not the same company when P was around. Warner Brother sold the music division to a private equity group and it looks like WB will be doing the distrubution. Big difference between being signed to WB and having them distrubute the CD. After all the crap about the WB stuff you would think some of you know it alls would be a little more informed.

WB like all record companies need to sell records .... They would be stupid to turn down a deal with Prince ..one of the biggest names in popular music...

Dreamer2 said:

laurarichardson said:

Well WB is not the same company when P was around. Warner Brother sold the music division to a private equity group and it looks like WB will be doing the distrubution. Big difference between being signed to WB and having them distrubute the CD. After all the crap about the WB stuff you would think some of you know it alls would be a little more informed.

WB like all record companies need to sell records .... They would be stupid to turn down a deal with Prince ..one of the biggest names in popular music...

Of course they would be stupid to turn down the deal. They are just distrubuting the CD.

Just wanted to say I called it.......way back on post #63 of this thread (regarding Prince distributing a new project via WB).

That is all.

vitriol said:

Ha!

So now the poor slave is knocking his old masters' door...

If after all he's said and done against WB he'd be willing to work with them again for monetary reasons this would be the lamest and most pathetic Prince move of his entire career.

If I were WB's CEO I'd just tell this mofo to fuck off and to please close the door after leaving.

The guy has no sense of shame at all. He's just a whore.

Both him and us LOST a lot when he left WB and the only really good thing we got after that was The Rainbow Children. I really miss the WB years.

But if he's now trying to step back we would lose the little credibility he has left.

I kind of agree with this, that is, if he does sign with them..He may just meeting them about a box set..Let's just wait and see.

BartVanHemelen said:

Prince could have "fixed" this back in 1992 when he was renegociating his contract. But instead of looking at the bigger picture, he was blinded by the bling and was far more interested in having this ridiculous "bigegst recording contract ever" title than in looking at what this actually involved. That's the same mentality that has been ruining his career for years: shortsightedness.

Bart I agree although that could have been his agents greed in that contract as well.

muleFunk said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Prince could have "fixed" this back in 1992 when he was renegociating his contract. But instead of looking at the bigger picture, he was blinded by the bling and was far more interested in having this ridiculous "bigegst recording contract ever" title than in looking at what this actually involved. That's the same mentality that has been ruining his career for years: shortsightedness.

Bart I agree although that could have been his agents greed in that contract as well.

More than likely

Militant said:

Just wanted to say I called it.......way back on post #63 of this thread (regarding Prince distributing a new project via WB).

That is all.

I wonder if this will be a new album or WB stuff?

Well I actually appreciate a 360 degree glimpse of the artist that I'm a fan of and this includes everything about them. This includes who they are dating, any major money issues, and anything else that I would find interesting that would humanize the artist more. Obviously this is not always possible, and generally there is often more rumor and speculation than fact. But in an ideal situation for me, it think it's ok for the artist to become "human". Hell we don't have to know everytime he's been treated for "the Clap" but tax issues are truly no big deal. Many many people get into pickles with the IRS particularly when you have more assets to account for.

This does not mean that I feel like it's ok for the media to go into "Circus Mode" like they did with Michael Jackson and start labeling the artist names like "Wacko Jacko" or anything like that. But it's good to read a legitimate article about other areas of the artists life besides the music. Both the good and the bad.

Dalia11 said:

Gemini Sun Sign, SCORPIO Rising. Be afraid, Be very afraid !

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kewlschool said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince is not going to give up ownership of his songs, There like his kids to him. WB does not own his back catalog they own his Masters to his back catalog. Theres a difference. Prince still owns the music publishing of those songs. Which i'm sure he will never give up. There may be a deal. But I'm sure its not going to include Prince giving up ownership. That is what he has been fighting for with WB. To have complete control over his music...

[Edited 6/23/10 23:36pm]

I meant the master recordings. Prince has also said that the ownership of the masters was the future for the artist and then mention 1 artist who sold it for like 100 million. Giving indication that at some point he may consider doing the same. (Again master recordings not publishing rights)

I understand your mistake.It can be confusing. But when Prince mentioned the artist that sold his masters for over 90 million, It was David Bowie. But he was using him as an example. For wanting to have that option to do what David Bowie was able to do. Because David owned his masters so he was able to profit from that. It still doesn't mean Prince will sell them once he gets ownership. But he will have that option. I am so smart...lol

[Edited 6/24/10 14:16pm]

Hopefully the meeting was about remastering his catalog; he and the material deserve it. The only other thing Warner could do for him is distribute. He could also be collecting recovered revenues from Purple Rain. Alot of people think Prince is outta touch in terms of business and music; he's really way ahead of the curve in a major way. He has successfully proven that you do not need a major label to do a commercially viable project. Independence is where the record industry is right now and Prince was talking about it 17 years ago. Y'all haters better recognize.

squirrelgrease said:

Dalia11 said:

Gemini Sun Sign, SCORPIO Rising. Be afraid, Be very afraid !

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OMG!!

anthonyspeaks said:

He has successfully proven that you do not need a major label to do a commercially viable project.

He has whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat...?

This is a great deal for Prince.

Planet Earth was a throw away album. Songs we're put together from all different years into one very weak album, cost would of been nothing, so making it big with the papers was a great financial success for P.

Expect another mish mash album with 20TEN(Not sayying its gonna be bad, but I expect it to be tracks just thrown together), creating no real flow.

Just my two cents!!

Militant said:

Some of you guys really have no idea how the music industry works.

It would not be a bad thing for Prince to go back to WB. He wouldn't be selling out, or anything like that. His problem was never with WB as a company. It was with the people that ran WB at that time and guess that? Those people ain't there any more.

We are living in a different era now. Record labels prior to the internet/digital era and record labels now are not the same, AT ALL.

in terms of Business, WB like i said could benefit and will if this is a "remaster" campaign, and i think Prince would be wise to swallow his pride on this one and take what he can get. WB and Rhino do a great job with reissues, as seen with The Cure and a-ha coming in July, and if they can do that for them and they both benefited from it (a-ha netted 7figures +) just for talking up the reissues and giving over demos and mixes that they had control of. So Prince needs to drop the whole "rebel" shit, we know you dont like the business, none of us do, but there is no more "industry" like it was, go in get your cut, swallow your pride, give up this masters plight, you wont win by talking about it 24/7, you gotta play their game. And Prince would be wise to do this NOW

lastdecember said:

Militant said:

Some of you guys really have no idea how the music industry works.

It would not be a bad thing for Prince to go back to WB. He wouldn't be selling out, or anything like that. His problem was never with WB as a company. It was with the people that ran WB at that time and guess that? Those people ain't there any more.

We are living in a different era now. Record labels prior to the internet/digital era and record labels now are not the same, AT ALL.

in terms of Business, WB like i said could benefit and will if this is a "remaster" campaign, and i think Prince would be wise to swallow his pride on this one and take what he can get. WB and Rhino do a great job with reissues, as seen with The Cure and a-ha coming in July, and if they can do that for them and they both benefited from it (a-ha netted 7figures +) just for talking up the reissues and giving over demos and mixes that they had control of. So Prince needs to drop the whole "rebel" shit, we know you dont like the business, none of us do, but there is no more "industry" like it was, go in get your cut, swallow your pride, give up this masters plight, you wont win by talking about it 24/7, you gotta play their game. And Prince would be wise to do this NOW

Exactly. And I very much intend to cop that "Disintegration Deluxe" set, and I'm a FAR bigger Prince fan than I am of The Cure (altho I do like them a lot).

There's just so much potential for Prince to make a lot of money and get a lot of publicity from doing very little work.

I mean, Lovesexy is begging for a deluxe edition with the DVD included. Purple Rain too.

squirrelgrease said:

Dalia11 said:

Gemini Sun Sign, SCORPIO Rising. Be afraid, Be very afraid !

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nursev said:

squirrelgrease said:

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I've just sent my daughter's little boyfriend away from my house...with his tail between his legs...because he just couldn't HANDLE the real shit I put...down on his ass!!!

My daughter is mad as a motherfucker...with me....right now! But so the fuck what!! If the nucca can't hang with ME...the nucca CAN'T hang!! Plain and simple!

I ain't worried because I KNOW for a MOTHERFUCKING FACT...she'll THANK me later!!!