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Reply #30 posted 10/09/09 9:50pm

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Reply #31 posted 10/10/09 8:52am

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squirrelgrease said:

this thread will be referred to quite often in the future.


People are welcome to quote from it all they want. biggrin
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Reply #32 posted 10/10/09 3:55pm

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contrary to popular belief, Prince did NOT play on the Lewis Conection LP.
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Reply #33 posted 10/10/09 10:30pm

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omg...

i had a lot of additions and corrections and my login timed out and i lost it all...

ORG FAIL.
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Reply #34 posted 10/10/09 10:44pm

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wow! eek prince should hire you. i dont know what for but you sure did put in a lot of time and effort to come up with that. thanks!
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Reply #35 posted 10/10/09 11:47pm

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OK.... i re-did my additions/corrections.


The Lewis Conection, Moonsound, Minneapolis, 1977
- Guitar & background vocals: Prince
Got To Be Something Here* (Sonny Thompson)

== Prince is NOT on this.

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The Hookers/Vanity 6, home studio, late 1981 – early 1982
Moral Majority #1

== Wasn't this just a dummy title for "We Can Fuck?" Prince thought Warner would never approve that title and used this title to throw them off.

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Piano rehearsal, 1983 – tentative placing
There’s No Telling What I Might Do (0:55) – possibly identical with Wednesday

== Indeed the same song as "Wednesday."

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Purple Rain, home studio, late October – November 1983 – test pressing of album 7 November 1983
Wednesday (24/10) – lead vocal: Jill Jones, possibly identical with There’s No Telling What I Might Do

== 1:42 "If you're not back by Wednesday, there's no telling what I might do."

Father’s Song (1:12) (29/10) (John L. Nelson?)

== a 5:15 piano version exists.

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The Family, Eden Prairie Warehouse, June – 18 July 1984
Feline #1 (14/7) – tom-toms: Bobby Z. Rivkin & Jellybean Johnson, saxophone: Eric Leeds

== 3:57 Some of the lyrics later ended up in "Holly Rock."

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Four-hour Paisley Jam, Sunset Sound, 28 December 1985
- guitar & piano: Prince, drums: Sheila E, bass: Levi Seacer, Jr., saxophone: Eric Leeds

Slaughterhouse #1

== 8:07, a second take lasts for only 1:47. A midtempo funk groove.

U Just Can’t Stop

== 8:01, Uptempo funk jam. Eric overdubbed flute on to this as well.

Run Amok

== 6:00, A shuffling rock groove, think Brownsville Station "Smokin In The Boys Room"

Mobile

== 6:20

Madrid #1 – part of the melody re-used on Andorra

== 9:15, a 6:56 edit exists as well

Breathless – remixed 4/10-‘88

== 6:47, slow airy number. Lots of sax and flute from Eric, and some loud stingers to make sure you're still paying attention. Might be my favorite from this session.

High Calonic

== 10:13, slow funk number, pretty sick sax part from Eric on this.

12 Keys (The Question Of U Instrumental)

== 6:30 instrumetal version. Levi sits this one out.

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Sunset Sound, 30 December 1985
- guitar & piano: Prince, drums: Sheila E, bass: Levi Seacer, Jr., saxophone: Eric Leeds

Voodoo Who

== 5:29, slow bluesy number. Prince calling out chords to the band. Starts to sing Sade's "Is It A Crime" midway through.

Finest Whiskey

== Definitely Prince just joking around to a slow blues number. "Bring me yo finest whiskey and yo most strongest bottle of wine, cuz (stumbles over lyrics) i'ma have to be filthy drunk to get yo black ass off my mind."

A Couple Of Miles #2 (Instrumental) – tenor & baritone saxophone: Eric Leeds

== 4:30

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Seven-hour Everybody’s Jam, Sunset Sound, 5 January 1986
- drums: Prince, percussion: Sheila E & Jonathan Melvoin, bass: Levi Seacer, Jr., saxophone: Eric Leeds, guitar & bass: Wendy Melvoin, piano: Lisa Coleman

Groove In C Minor

== 8:00, real funky groove. Prince calling out changes and solos to the band.

Slow Groove In G Major

== 9:53, i hesitate to think that it's not Prince on guitar on this one... but it very well could be Wendy.

Groove In G Flat Minor

== 13:00, really fast one (about 155 bpms), Prince asks someone about a minute into it if they want a job. LOL.


There is also a live-in-studio vocal version of "For Love" that might be from this session as well. It clocks in at nearly 28 minutes and is funky as all hell. "For love I would suffer fucking from another..."

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Sheila E, early January 1988
The Ghetto (Donny Hathaway/Hutson) – cover of Donny Hathaway

== Just for the sake of completion, that would be Leroy Hutson

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Nona Gaye, Paisley Park, 5 November 1993

Inner City Blues (Marvin Gaye) – tentative placing

== is this the version on the "Inner City Blues" tribute album from 1995?

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Love Sign – The Remixes, pre June 1994
Ted’s Get ‘em Up Mix (6:30)
Ted’s Funky Chariot Mix (6:57)
Ted’s Double Trouble Mix (6:57)
Ted’s Love Sign Radio Mix (6:19)

== I saw in your article on "Come" that you just had these credited to "Ted," these are actually Teddy Riley remixes.

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Stevie Wonder, pre 21 March 1995
Cold Chill (Stevie Wonder) – guitar: o)+> (unreleased)

== I assume this is Prince's remix that was released on the iTunes only "Complete Stevie Wonder" box set?

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Face Down EP, pre April 1997

X-Tended Rap Money Mix (4:51)
Instrumental Money Mix (4:02)
Acapella Face (2:21)

== weren't these released on promo 12" and CD singles?

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Crystal Ball, 1996-1997
Movie Star #3 (4:25)* - with intro from Jam Of The Year, party girl: Susannah Melvoin, omits the “right there, honey” part

New Power Generation: Newpower Soul, May – August 1997
Sadomasochistic Groove #1 (5:26) (May/June) – available from NPGMC since 7/7-2001

== Isn't this different from the NPGMC version? This would be the version that had been posted in snippet form very briefly on Love4oneanother.com, right? If I recall correctly, this version was quite stripped down and much better than what eventually came out in full.

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Prince & The NPG: One Nite Alone… The Aftershow: It Ain’t Over! New York, New York, 9 April 2002

Medley: Just Friends (Sunny) (T. Johnson/C. Haggins/I. Barias/V. Davis/B. Hebb)/If You Want Me To Stay (Sylvester Stewart) (Featuring Musiq) (4:26)*

== ?uestlove of the Roots is on drums for this, but not credited on the box set.
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Reply #36 posted 10/10/09 11:59pm

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one more factoid:

Unnamed project, home studio, 1981

Strange Way Of Saying I Love You (2:09)

== Not intended for any project. This was recorded in response to an argument that Prince had with Lisa. She left the studio one day and when she came back, he had this song waiting for her. Lisa wouldn't hear it again until 20+ years later.
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Reply #37 posted 10/11/09 6:42am

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A big thank you to brainchild for all the corrections and additions. I will sort through them later. biggrin

I didn't know the Flesh sessions had been bootlegged. I must somehow get my clean ears to hear them. drool
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Reply #38 posted 10/11/09 9:10am

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brainchild said:

contrary to popular belief, Prince did NOT play on the Lewis Conection LP.


I've deleted it from the list. biggrin
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Reply #39 posted 10/11/09 9:12am

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brainchild said:

New Power Generation: Newpower Soul, May – August 1997
Sadomasochistic Groove #1 (5:26) (May/June) – available from NPGMC since 7/7-2001

== Isn't this different from the NPGMC version? This would be the version that had been posted in snippet form very briefly on Love4oneanother.com, right? If I recall correctly, this version was quite stripped down and much better than what eventually came out in full.


I've moved version 2 from late 2003 to 2001 and noted that it was that, which were available on NPGMC. biggrin
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Reply #40 posted 10/11/09 9:24am

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brainchild said:

Sheila E, early January 1988
The Ghetto (Donny Hathaway/Hutson) – cover of Donny Hathaway

== Just for the sake of completion, that would be Leroy Hutson


It's been corrected. biggrin

brainchild said:

Nona Gaye, Paisley Park, 5 November 1993

Inner City Blues (Marvin Gaye) – tentative placing

== is this the version on the "Inner City Blues" tribute album from 1995?


I don't know. biggrin

brainchild said:

Love Sign – The Remixes, pre June 1994
Ted’s Get ‘em Up Mix (6:30)
Ted’s Funky Chariot Mix (6:57)
Ted’s Double Trouble Mix (6:57)
Ted’s Love Sign Radio Mix (6:19)

== I saw in your article on "Come" that you just had these credited to "Ted," these are actually Teddy Riley remixes.


In Ultimate Gold actually. I'll correct it there. biggrin

brainchild said:

Stevie Wonder, pre 21 March 1995
Cold Chill (Stevie Wonder) – guitar: o)+> (unreleased)

== I assume this is Prince's remix that was released on the iTunes only "Complete Stevie Wonder" box set?


I don't know. biggrin

brainchild said:

Face Down EP, pre April 1997

X-Tended Rap Money Mix (4:51)
Instrumental Money Mix (4:02)
Acapella Face (2:21)

== weren't these released on promo 12" and CD singles?


Yes, but not officially. biggrin
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Reply #41 posted 10/11/09 9:35am

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brainchild said:

The Hookers/Vanity 6, home studio, late 1981 – early 1982
Moral Majority #1

== Wasn't this just a dummy title for "We Can Fuck?" Prince thought Warner would never approve that title and used this title to throw them off.


A part of We Can Fuck was bootlegged as Moral Majority. I always just assumed it was a mistake as it isn't uncommon that tracks are bootlegged under wrong titles. biggrin

brainchild said:

Piano rehearsal, 1983 – tentative placing
There’s No Telling What I Might Do (0:55) – possibly identical with Wednesday

== Indeed the same song as "Wednesday."

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Purple Rain, home studio, late October – November 1983 – test pressing of album 7 November 1983
Wednesday (24/10) – lead vocal: Jill Jones, possibly identical with There’s No Telling What I Might Do

== 1:42 "If you're not back by Wednesday, there's no telling what I might do."


I've noted that they are two different versions of the same track. biggrin
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Reply #42 posted 10/11/09 9:52am

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Finest Whiskey

== Definitely Prince just joking around to a slow blues number. "Bring me yo finest whiskey and yo most strongest bottle of wine, cuz (stumbles over lyrics) i'ma have to be filthy drunk to get yo black ass off my mind."


I've added all the track times for The Flesh, except for this one. You forgot? biggrin
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Reply #43 posted 10/11/09 11:20am

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brainchild said:

Unnamed project, home studio, 1981

Strange Way Of Saying I Love You (2:09)

== Not intended for any project. This was recorded in response to an argument that Prince had with Lisa. She left the studio one day and when she came back, he had this song waiting for her. Lisa wouldn't hear it again until 20+ years later.


I don't see how that story excludes it from getting included in an unnamed project. biggrin
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Reply #44 posted 10/11/09 11:51am

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scififilmnerd said:

brainchild said:

Finest Whiskey

== Definitely Prince just joking around to a slow blues number. "Bring me yo finest whiskey and yo most strongest bottle of wine, cuz (stumbles over lyrics) i'ma have to be filthy drunk to get yo black ass off my mind."


I've added all the track times for The Flesh, except for this one. You forgot? biggrin




didn't forget. only have a very short snippet of an obviously longer piece.
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Reply #45 posted 10/11/09 11:51am

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brainchild said:

Unnamed project, home studio, 1981

Strange Way Of Saying I Love You (2:09)

== Not intended for any project. This was recorded in response to an argument that Prince had with Lisa. She left the studio one day and when she came back, he had this song waiting for her. Lisa wouldn't hear it again until 20+ years later.


I don't see how that story excludes it from getting included in an unnamed project. biggrin


wasn't saying it shouldn't be included in this category. was just giving back story that i wasn't sure had been told before.
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Reply #46 posted 10/11/09 8:24pm

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Hey SciFi, your Ultimate Come thread is praised here: http://vitarhythms.blogspot.com/

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Reply #47 posted 10/11/09 10:46pm

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Now this is my idea of a useful thread. Thanks. cool
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Reply #48 posted 10/12/09 1:22am

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This is a very helpful thread but it is largely based on research that was done but all of us at the UPTOWN staff. I know because I personally researched a great deal of this myself. Congrats for compiling this, but from what I read on here, most of this has been published in some form in Days Of Wild or one of the other UPTOWN publications.

Thanx for putting this out there because it is an amazing list and your passion is obvious about this topic.
The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/
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Reply #49 posted 10/12/09 3:34am

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Hey SciFi, your Ultimate Come thread is praised here: http://vitarhythms.blogspot.com/

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Cool. biggrin
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Reply #50 posted 10/12/09 3:38am

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madhouseman said:

This is a very helpful thread but it is largely based on research that was done but all of us at the UPTOWN staff. I know because I personally researched a great deal of this myself. Congrats for compiling this, but from what I read on here, most of this has been published in some form in Days Of Wild or one of the other UPTOWN publications.


I know. I'm guilty. I used the list in D.M.S.R. and expanded on it, incorporating information from Days Of Wild and other sources. biggrin
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Reply #51 posted 10/12/09 2:04pm

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scififilmnerd said:

brainchild said:

contrary to popular belief, Prince did NOT play on the Lewis Conection LP.


I've deleted it from the list. biggrin


STOP!!!

Prince DOES play on the song, at least sings on it: his voice is clearly heard as background vocals.
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Reply #52 posted 10/12/09 2:14pm

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scififilmnerd said:



I didn't know the Flesh sessions had been bootlegged. I must somehow get my clean ears to hear them. drool


Thay have not. Brainchild obviously had access to the vault at some point ^^
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Reply #53 posted 10/13/09 12:24am

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scififilmnerd said:

madhouseman said:

This is a very helpful thread but it is largely based on research that was done but all of us at the UPTOWN staff. I know because I personally researched a great deal of this myself. Congrats for compiling this, but from what I read on here, most of this has been published in some form in Days Of Wild or one of the other UPTOWN publications.


I know. I'm guilty. I used the list in D.M.S.R. and expanded on it, incorporating information from Days Of Wild and other sources. biggrin


Thanx for the acknowledgment SciFi. We put a lot of work into those books and it is great to see that people still use them as a reference. Keep up the work and keep the torch lit!
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Reply #54 posted 10/13/09 1:37am

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you deserve a round of applause for all these amazing threads! clapping clapping

two more songs i might have skipped over:

"all the king's horses", which was sent to clare fisher for contribution,
iirc somewhere in late 2000 or early 2001. might have been something for
the rainbow children?

"streets of panama", which has been reported by a few 'in the know' orgers
as having been replaced as the closing track on 3121 with "get on the boat".
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Reply #55 posted 10/13/09 9:19am

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databank said:

STOP!!!

Prince DOES play on the song, at least sings on it: his voice is clearly heard as background vocals.


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Can y'all make up your mind. nuts
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Reply #56 posted 10/13/09 9:24am

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madhouseman said:

Thanx for the acknowledgment SciFi. We put a lot of work into those books and it is great to see that people still use them as a reference. Keep up the work and keep the torch lit!


Thank you. I couldn't have done my Ultimate articles without Days Of Wild. It's like a bible to me. You guys did great work that is greatly appreciated by people like me. kiss2
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Reply #57 posted 10/13/09 10:12am

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IstenSzek said:

you deserve a round of applause for all these amazing threads! clapping clapping


Thank you, Szexy. hug kiss2

IstenSzek said:

two more songs i might have skipped over: "all the king's horses", "streets of panama"


They've been added to the list. Thank you for the info. biggrin
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Reply #58 posted 10/13/09 10:44am

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databank said:

scififilmnerd said:



I didn't know the Flesh sessions had been bootlegged. I must somehow get my clean ears to hear them. drool


Thay have not. Brainchild obviously had access to the vault at some point ^^


well my source is someone who's named somewhere in this thread.

trying to get confirmation on that Lewis Conection bit, will report back.
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Reply #59 posted 10/13/09 10:51am

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another missing track from the list:

Common "Star *69 (PS With Love)" from his Electric Circus album.

Prince plays keys and guitar on this, albeit buried wayyyyy back in the mix. Not certain on the date of recording, but I'm led to believe it was spring/summer of 2001.

and no, he's not involved at all on the very prince-esque interlude that concludes the track... though his Linn Drum was used for the piece.

he was asked to contribute guitar to the album's closer, "Heaven Somewhere", which features most of the guest artists that appeared on the album, but declined.
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