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Printable iloveannie said: journey said: After he closes this one down, without a word to anyone as usual! One day you'll just go there and be staring at nothing but a blank screen, because "Prince has left the building"  We've already had the blank screen at the start  lol Love God. Love Music. Love Life. | |
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laurarichardson said: ian said: Click the "X" in the top right corner of your web browser window. Problem solved. ----- Why don't you follow your own advice. NYAC | |
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'I'm No.1 at the bank'?
Is this the guy we know and love? Funky alien | |
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andrewm7 said: I am not being negative here about Prince or the Lotusflow3r site, but, with due respect, if you are going to write an article about a musicians new web site, it does pay to actually visit it
I see no indication that the writer even logged on let alone explored the site in any depth. probably couldn't work out the cryptic entry codes... We ain't from Hollywood, so you know it's all good | |
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herb4 said: laurarichardson said:
You guys keep forgeting he sells millions of tickets BartVanHemelen said: Evidence? Evidence? Evidence? Ummm.... That same year, Pollstar named Prince the top concert draw among musicians in USA. Grossing an estimated $87.4 million, Prince's Musicology Tour was the most profitable tour in the music industry for 2004. The artist played an impressive run of 96 concerts; the average ticket price for a show was US$61. Prince announced that he would play 21 concerts in London over the summer of 2007. The "Earth Tour" included 21 nights at the 20,000 capacity O2 Arena. Tickets for the O2 Arena were priced at £31.21 (including a free copy of Prince's latest album), in order to make the concerts "affordable for everybody". The residency at the O2 Arena was increased to 15 nights after all 140,000 tickets for the original seven sold out in just 20 minutes. Although it was the same 20000 people buying tix for each night... We ain't from Hollywood, so you know it's all good | |
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superspaceboy said: laurarichardson said: ----- fans also will be treated to such perks as live-cam concerts from the mansion and first dibs at tickets for last-minute, unannounced gigs, which have become a Prince trademark. " Can you not read it states will be? Damm Yes eventually the web site will be worth the 77 bucks paid for. and when it happens people will moan about how Prince didn't let them know how good it would be and how they missed out because they've forgotten how to get into the site to register and that they'll have to miss a mortgage payment to pay the HUGE sum of $77 to join and then all the good seats were sold out when they tried to get them and... and... and... to quote Bart van Hemelen-a-ding-dong... Bwahahah!!! We ain't from Hollywood, so you know it's all good | |
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2 all the haterz on the Internet
Somebody's lookin' at U No more candy 4 U They got ur number, fool Wow! La, la, la
He, he, hee! | |
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It's no coincidence that his sales and creativity took a nosedive once Warner severed ties with him. | |
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Copycat said: It's no coincidence that his sales and creativity took a nosedive once Warner severed ties with him.
Sorry, but I totally disagree. I think the opposite is true. He is no longer a commercial artist and his 'sound' has changed. I don't think he writes songs to be potential hits on the radio anymore and the fans who really liked the hits-which is ok to like the hits by the way- aren't happy with his music since leaving WB. Dick Clark said it best: "He doesn't care if you and I like the music..." Prince makes music he likes and I think that's the one big difference between his music output with WB and since then. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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XNY said: Sorry, but I totally disagree. I think the opposite is true. He is no longer a commercial artist and his 'sound' has changed. I don't think he writes songs to be potential hits on the radio anymore and the fans who really liked the hits-which is ok to like the hits by the way- aren't happy with his music since leaving WB.
Dick Clark said it best: "He doesn't care if you and I like the music..." Prince makes music he likes and I think that's the one big difference between his music output with WB and since then. Wow. I could not disagree more. He doesn't write "songs to be potential hits on the radio anymore"? That's all he writes nowadays. Tryin' to sound like the rest of the crap on the radio these days. Back when he was on WB, he was writing songs that weren't commercial but radio was going out of their way to play it - did you really hear songs like Kiss, When Doves Cry or Pop Life back then?. He thinks he's still doing this today, except now he's writing songs that are "radio friendly". Fail. • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
Wendy: He’s a girl, for sure, but he’s not gay. He looked at me like a gay woman would look at another woman. Lisa: Totally. He’s like a fancy lesbian. | |
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Rogue588 said: XNY said: Sorry, but I totally disagree. I think the opposite is true. He is no longer a commercial artist and his 'sound' has changed. I don't think he writes songs to be potential hits on the radio anymore and the fans who really liked the hits-which is ok to like the hits by the way- aren't happy with his music since leaving WB.
Dick Clark said it best: "He doesn't care if you and I like the music..." Prince makes music he likes and I think that's the one big difference between his music output with WB and since then. Wow. I could not disagree more. He doesn't write "songs to be potential hits on the radio anymore"? That's all he writes nowadays. Tryin' to sound like the rest of the crap on the radio these days. Back when he was on WB, he was writing songs that weren't commercial but radio was going out of their way to play it - did you really hear songs like Kiss, When Doves Cry or Pop Life back then?. He thinks he's still doing this today, except now he's writing songs that are "radio friendly". Fail. We'll never agree on this, but his music was new back in the day, so it was different from anything on radio so it stood out, but I think many songs like D&P, Cream, MostBGITW although different were written to sell albums and weren't for hardcore fans. My feeling is that the albums since WB have been mostly aimed at his hardcore audience and not top 40. ...agree to disagree. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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XNY said: We'll never agree on this, but his music was new back in the day, so it was different from anything on radio so it stood out, but I think many songs like D&P, Cream, MostBGITW although different were written to sell albums and weren't for hardcore fans. My feeling is that the albums since WB have been mostly aimed at his hardcore audience and not top 40.
...agree to disagree. It's okay that we agree to disagree. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with people who tell me i'm wrong when relating to unquantifiable facts that are essentially opinions - we can unequivocally state that tMBGITW peaked at number 3 on Billboard's Hot 100 chart, but we can't say how many copies it actually sold (some accounts have him Mariah Carey-ing it).
Still, I do agree with you about D&P, Cream and tMBGITW being written to "sell". In fact, tMBGITW was his way of "proving" he could still sell. But I also believe that Come, the Gold Experience & Chaos And Disorder were not. Not that there weren't songs "eligible" to fit in on the radio, but I don't believe that was his intent - if it happened, it happened. I think that started with Emancipation, with the only slight return to his early form being the Rainbow Children. Three years (and the peak Billboard 200 chart position of 109 for tRC) prompted him to resume his way of writing "radio friendly, mainstream" songs. IMO, Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth and now Lotusflower seemed to be all written with mainstream radio in mind - with glimmers of the Prince of old every so often for the hardcorers.. [Edited 4/29/09 16:41pm] • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
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Rogue588 said: IMO, Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth and now Lotusflower seemed to be all written with mainstream radio in mind - with glimmers of the Prince of old every so often for the hardcorers..
true that... don't 4get MPLSound...  Love God. Love Music. Love Life. | |
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laurarichardson said: BartVanHemelen said: Logic. Why wouldn't Prince want to set up another deal with a company that had been good to him? Answer: because they don't want to. ----- They don't want to because it is not to their advantage to have an artist for one CD. They are not able to build any sort of catalogue and the artist (Prince) has no loyalty to the label. Try THINKING next time, OK? Let's see, I'm talking about companies that HAVE DONE DEALS WITH HIM and for some reason then didn't anymore. laurarichardson said: In addtion, CD sales are so bad right now labels want to retain the master which, Prince is not willing to do.
Oh fer feck's sake, they've ALWAYS wanted to own the masters. Yet bands like Metallica and REM DO OWN THEIR OWN MASTERS. Why? Because they weren't IDIOTS who were distracted by shiny beads, because they LISTENED to their advisors when the labels presented them with less than great deals. EMI, BMG, Arista, etc ALL made one-off deals with Prince and for some reason then stopped doing so. Ghee, I wonder why. Hint: the above "reasons" (i.e. figments of your imagination) don't apply. More hints: EMI was still busy dumping leftover copies of Emancipation for $1 a piece almost a decade after the album was released. And the Arista deal... well, we all know what happened there. Oh, and what's the point of Prince owning his own masters when a) nobody gives a shit about those records and b) those records aren't in print. © Bart Van Hemelen
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herb4 said: laurarichardson said:
You guys keep forgeting he sells millions of tickets BartVanHemelen said: Evidence? Evidence? Evidence? Ummm.... That same year, Pollstar named Prince the top concert draw among musicians in USA. Grossing an estimated $87.4 million, Prince's Musicology Tour was the most profitable tour in the music industry for 2004. The artist played an impressive run of 96 concerts; the average ticket price for a show was US$61. Prince announced that he would play 21 concerts in London over the summer of 2007. The "Earth Tour" included 21 nights at the 20,000 capacity O2 Arena. Tickets for the O2 Arena were priced at £31.21 (including a free copy of Prince's latest album), in order to make the concerts "affordable for everybody". The residency at the O2 Arena was increased to 15 nights after all 140,000 tickets for the original seven sold out in just 20 minutes. Since when is 140,000 tickets "millions"? Oh wait, times 3 = 420,000. Not even half a million. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ogy_(tour) : "It was attended by 1.47 million people in 2004." -- That's a million and a half. Still not "millions". © Bart Van Hemelen
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laurarichardson said: I really don't give a crap about what the critics have to say about Prince's comeback anybody who pays any attention to popular music knew he did not go anyplace. It is unfortunate that most music critics don't really know what is going on half of the time or are just tools of the music industry.
Oh, so now fams have to dis the critics again? Hmmm, let's see, which artist put out a CD-single a couple of years ago that had headlines from reviews as a cover? Which artist recently put a pretend newspaper clipping on his website that linked to several reviews of his post-Oscars party? Oh, and if you really "don't give a crap about what the critics have to say", then you shouldn't post about them. © Bart Van Hemelen
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harveya said:[quote] herb4 said: Although it was the same 20000 people buying tix for each night... And? The Grateful Dead sold millions of tickets too and people followed them all over the country, often for years at a time. Not to mention they only ever had ONE top ten album. I was rebutting what Bart said that there was no evidence (there is) that Prince sells whopping amounts of tickets (he does). Not sure it matters who bought what. BartVanHemelen said: Since when is 140,000 tickets "millions"? Oh wait, times 3 = 420,000. Not even half a million. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ogy_(tour) : "It was attended by 1.47 million people in 2004." -- That's a million and a half. Still not "millions". So your quarrel was with the "s" in "millions"? How far back do we want to go to get an accurate measurement as long as we're talking about it? I'm quite certain that Prince HAS sold "millionS of tickets". We can argue semantics if you want, but it's pretty boring - and, setting aside hyperbole for a moment, I'm pretty sure you knew what the person meant when they said "millions." Let's re-phrase: "Prince outsells almost every other live act you can name." How's that? [Edited 5/5/09 13:56pm] [Edited 5/5/09 13:58pm] | |
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