andrewm7 said:

Yeah I dont think Variety was looking to publish an article about a musician's website. The focus of the article is on Prince now working without middle men.

andrewm7 said:

And yet they won't be the one Prince sues.....

laurarichardson said:

so because they wern't in the limelight like prince was that makes them inferior? that's just stupid thinking right there. or have u 4gotten that the critics were hailing musicology, and 3121 as prince's "comeback" albums where he was still doing things while he wasn't in the "limelight"

laurarichardson said:

if i was able 2 go i would have at least i wouldn't have heard purple rain 4 the 100000 time

laurarichardson said:

#1 on the r and b charts yes but in this world they only look at the pop charts of anything significant where prince came in at #2

saundo11 said:

After he closes this one down, without a word to anyone as usual! One day you'll just go there and be staring at nothing but a blank screen, because "Prince has left the building"

L4OATheOriginal said:

well said...

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Seriously. How obvious does it have to be that this was just a cut and paste job from a PR?



I mean, fucking-fuck.

Interesting read

Addison Clay, who has been behind such high-gloss movie sites as "The DarkKnight" and "Twilight," says Prince "felt his earlier fan site turned into MySpace. There were forums where fans could talk and see each other on the Internet.



Blame it on UTELLUS I beg his pardon


they could see each other .....blame that on the celebrations lol

WetDream said:

Bar Little Big Planet the PS3 doesn't really have a lot going for it. Until the next Ico/Shadow of the Colossus of course

The 360 online userbase is far higher than the competition at the moment anyway so it's probably that which has swayed him.

journey said:

We've already had the blank screen at the start

lezama said:

maybe he doesn't want them?. cost of renewals vs cost of running website, perhaps its financially viable. There must be a profit threshold. just a thought!

TheEnglishGent said:

exactly! The only obvious advantage of the PS3 is its operating silence. I also have both systems. PS3 is the cheapest Blu Ray disc player out there, but as a game machine the XBox wins easlily.

But wait a minute. Wasn't this a Prince-bashing website?

mooseriderrik said:

I'm a Prince fan and a gaming enthusiast. The arguments are the same, it's only the subject matter that changes. This is better than that, the early stuff had the originality, and so on.

This is why I grin to myself so often. I imagine the kindly old-dears over at Knitting Weekly have the very same arguments that we have here at the Org. Don't mess with a hater-granny!

BartVanHemelen said:

Always the same question BVH: WHAT IS YOUR REAL, DEEP PROBLEM WITH LIFE? i actually support the bulk of your views on Prince's recent music and strategy, but you are so over doing it that you lose all credibility... Prince was a genius, he is still an interesting artist (especially live) despite a good dose of crap. This is why I still come here from time to time. IF YOU HATE PRINCE SO MUCH, WHY DO YOU SPEND MORE TIME HERE THAN ON USHER'S WEBSITE?

a million fans?

planet earth sold 300,000 copies according to the article. a number that
keeps popping up whenever the latest hype dies down and prince is left
with his core audience.

so i'd say 300,000 loyal prince album buyers. of whom many won't be able
or willing to join a $ 77,- website which has of yet little or nothing
to offer that isn't on sale elsewhere or which people don't already have
in their homes for at least 10 years.

and don't forget the puzzle to enter the site which is now explained on
the newspaper snippet but which left many average fans bewildered those
first weeks and no doubt made a lot of people say "fuck it i'll wait for
the target release".

then there's the reports of what is actually up on the site, which is as
i've said basically nothing new or exciting. people who were not caught
up in the hype of signing up the day the site went live most likely came
to the org or other places to read what was on offer (since there was no
real info about that from prince's camp anyway) and figured they'd hold
on to their money for a while until the site expanded with more material
like vault tracks.

i know i'm one of the ones who got caught up in the hysteria at the very
last minute and joined. i don't really care about the money but if i'd
known how little there would be on the site i would not have joined this
experience.

i'd say 100,000 members is a very big estimate. a more realistic number
imo would be 50,000 subscribers at this moment. and still a voice in me
says it's probably closer to 30,000.

if he already had a million members on the site he would release all of
that vault material TODAY. for 50K members he won't release the good
stuff. which is the crux of the problem with his websites. he wants us
all to join and then if not enough people join he hold on to the good
stuff. or releases the "exclusives" again, a year later, to a wider
audience. leaving loyal fans who paid for exclusives disgruntled and
less prone to sign up next time.

if he knew there would be a million people waiting to throw their cc his
way for "roadhouse garden" he would release it tomorrow. for a million
copies sold a pop he would release every album he had left in his vault
and make like 15 million per album.

now he stands to make some money but nothing close to what he makes from
touring or even performing 3 times on one day. if he could make a 3 mill
on just one day why would he sell his most treasured outtakes or a disc
like "roadhouse garden" to 30.000 fans for a total of $ 500,000? it's a
kind of logic i can understand. i hate it but i understand it.

Rorywan said:

Except the things that would intice people to stay on won't incur significant website production costs, its music & tickets. No one will be signing up because someone spend an extra 100K on design. But nice thought.

mypancakeplaces said:

That news didn't come from Prince's camp however, it came from Goldenvoice. I dont see why they would care to tinker with facts about shows that are already past for Prince's benefit.

IstenSzek said:

nah, I don't have the Leno Guitar version for the last 10 years....

BartVanHemelen said:

How do you figure?

jimmyrogertodd said:

Logic. Why wouldn't Prince want to set up another deal with a company that had been good to him? Answer: because they don't want to.

lezama said:

I don't understand your posts I'm afraid.

pfff oh man wat a lot of negative on this board .how do i sign me of again because i hear nothing els then complaining .
prince is doing his thing for so long now .sometimes i like it sometimes i don't its that simple .

OK I paid for the website because I really wanted a decent copy of crimson and clover and of course the rest of mplsound and lotusflower. Not only did it take about 20 mins to work out how to join and log in, it took the same time to work out how to hear the music! The only thing that was quick was the payment system! However once I logged into this slow and comebersome and boring website and worked out how to do the basic navigation, Crimson and Clover wasnt there! I was stupid enough to join up without really thinking about what songs would be available, and why should I as C&C was promoted so much, I only assumed it would be there just like all the other songs are. In addition, since joining a month ago there have been no updates, no new material, no vault material, and its fuckin slow as hell. Ive got to give it to you Prince, you screwed me well and good! I also feel like one of the few dickheads stupid enough to buy the subscription too - most file sharers had the material free within a few hours anyway. My recommendation for anyone thinking of buying is - IT IS A WASTE OF YOUR TIME AND MONEY. Thanks Prince you fucking wanker.

PRINCE IS A TOTAL GENIUS FOR DOING THIS BECAUSE HE IS SHOWING YOU HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO BE INDEPENDENT.FOR YOU DUMB HATERS TO HAVE A PROBABLY WITH WHAT PRINCE IS DOING IS A CLEAR SIGN OF YOUR ENVY AND LACK OF SUPPORT FOR A MUSICIAN/ARTIST WHO HAS GIVEN OVER 30 YEARS OF INNOVATIVE MUSIC AND STYLE.SO AS YOUR BROKE ASSES HATE ON THIS GENIUS WHO CAN BUY ONE OF YOUR HATEN ASSES WHO DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND LIFESTYLE OF PRINCE.JUST THINK FOR A MINUTE FUCK HEADS;THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS JUST ONE IT STATES A BUSINESS RAPPED AROUND MUSIC.U GO PRINCE;YOUR TRUE SUPPORTORS ARE WITH YOU AS YOU REVULUTIONIZE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

LondonStyle said:

Epic lolz. It seems pretty clear that neither Clay nor Prince knows the first thing about videogames... If we're talking about "old school company", I could show them 20-year-old adventure titles that are easier to navigate that Lotusflow3r.com. Call ME old fashioned, but I prefer websites that are conceived and designed to function as WEBSITES.

Pretty revealing statement though, it explains a lot.

prijsbeestje said:

Click the "X" in the top right corner of your web browser window. Problem solved.

L4OATheOriginal said:

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Their musical output and ablities as showmen are inferior to Prince's output and showmanship. Sorry but that is my opinion. I like all of those groups but if I had a choice between going to see them live or Prince I am going to go with Prince.

In addtion, they have not really been in anybodies limelight in sometime. I really don't give a crap about what the critics have to say about Prince's comeback anybody who pays any attention to popular music knew he did not go anyplace. It is unfortunate that most music critics don't really know what is going on half of the time or are just tools of the music industry.

ian said:

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Why don't you follow your own advice.