malbena said:

cloveringold85 said:

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If she keeps it classy and respectful, then I see no harm in it.

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I feel that every woman who was associated with Prince at one time or another deserves to tell their side of the story, if they so choose. I'm not saying that I, myself would do that, because I wouldn't. I'm not comfortable with disclosing my personal life for everyone to read and pick apart.

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Why are you so hard on Apollonia? What is it about her that you don't like? Just curious. You don't have to answer.

Oh I can answer that. Her bashing other associates, her claims of knowing some details about Prince no others would know, her ganging up on Mayte, her dissing Sheila E., her talking about the "gouging of people Prince banished from his life" referring to people who haven't done anything wrong (Cassandra O'Neal and Shelby for example), her calling herself a widow?...

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I understand. Well, only time will tell who is telling the truth.

laurarichardson said:

malbena said:

laurarichardson said: You think? Nothing you keep repeating is supported by evidence. Only speculations.

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Can you answer this question? When did she call herself a widow?

"two ex-wives running acting like widows" -- This is a fact.

"We have no idea what was going on behind the scences but we know Prince cut his staff down to nothing at the last months of his life and it was not due to money issues." --- FACT

"Right now there are associates who had spoken or interacted with him in years. Some even dissed him and now they are acting like they were on great terms with him to cash in." Fact

"I think Apples does know somethings about some people that could be eye opening. Not so sure it is anything but exposing some people for the liars that they probaly really are. "

My opinion based on Apples comments about head's rolling. Other then illegal behavior she would have to mean unethical two-face behavior which we have already witnesses.

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There's no doubt; a lot of people got their dirty, greedy hands out for a slice of that purple pie.

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God willing -- the truth will prevail.

Mumio said:

Right there with you. I'm done discussing. It falls on dead ears.

Pass the popcorn.

Can we please all calm down here and not make this thread about M1 and M2?

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I come in Peace.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

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Can you answer this question? When did she call herself a widow?

"two ex-wives running acting like widows" -- This is a fact.

"We have no idea what was going on behind the scences but we know Prince cut his staff down to nothing at the last months of his life and it was not due to money issues." --- FACT

"Right now there are associates who had spoken or interacted with him in years. Some even dissed him and now they are acting like they were on great terms with him to cash in." Fact

"I think Apples does know somethings about some people that could be eye opening. Not so sure it is anything but exposing some people for the liars that they probaly really are. "

My opinion based on Apples comments about head's rolling. Other then illegal behavior she would have to mean unethical two-face behavior which we have already witnesses.

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There's no doubt; a lot of people got their dirty, greedy hands out for a slice of that purple pie.

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God willing -- the truth will prevail.

The truth will come out and then we will see who comes back to talk smack.

laurarichardson said:

Probably you, Laura. You have more posts on this thread than anybody else. But, don't respond, let's wait for the news to come out ...if ever.

malbena said:

laurarichardson said:

The truth will come out and then we will see who comes back to talk smack.

Probably you, Laura. You have more posts on this thread than anybody else. But, don't respond, let's wait for the news to come out ...if ever.

You are correct.

What does "heads will roll" mean? I've never heard of the term. I see a guillotine in my mind. Like heads will roll from that! Don't laugh lol but is that what she means? I seriously don't understand lol

MonaLiza said:

What does "heads will roll" mean? I've never heard of the term. I see a guillotine in my mind. Like heads will roll from that! Don't laugh lol but is that what she means? I seriously don't understand lol

It means people are going to get it and the saying is comparing "heads rolling as if a guillotine came down on them. I think she may know who Prince was speaking of as Jubilent Judas and he may have even known what assoicates were going to act a fool after he died.

If he wrote about this stuff to her it will provide more proof that he was ill which is what many fans are afraid of.

You’ve repeated dozens of times that “many fans” are “afraid” that prince had an illness (I assume you mean a serious/terminal illness other than addiction)
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Can you give an example of a fan who is “afraid” of that and why they might have that fear? Given that he’s been dead for 2 years, why would someone fear hearing about illness?
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And where did apollonia say stuff about emails from him about illness? I know she claimed emails from him about her upcoming book...

laurarichardson said:

MonaLiza said:

What does "heads will roll" mean? I've never heard of the term. I see a guillotine in my mind. Like heads will roll from that! Don't laugh lol but is that what she means? I seriously don't understand lol

It doesn't mean anything. Just some jibberish talk from an attention seeking former protege. She's turning out to be a troublemaker and loves starting unncecssary drama. So full of bitterness and jealousy.

bondno9 said:

MonaLiza said:

What does "heads will roll" mean? I've never heard of the term. I see a guillotine in my mind. Like heads will roll from that! Don't laugh lol but is that what she means? I seriously don't understand lol

It doesn't mean anything. Just some jibberish talk from an attention seeking former protege. She's turning out to be a troublemaker and loves starting unncecssary drama. So full of bitterness and jealousy.

It's means heads will roll. I am not sure she is committing a crime if she wants to disclouse the "Judas" he was speaking of.

Some of you act like the other associates have wings coming out of their backsides with the B.S. they have pulled but Apples is killing people.

You’ve repeated dozens of times that “many fans” are “afraid” that prince had an illness (I assume you mean a serious/terminal illness other than addiction)
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Yes,

Can you give an example of a fan who is “afraid” of that and why they might have that fear? Given that he’s been dead for 2 years, why would someone fear hearing about illness?

Anyone that has a problem with Apples or any associate disclosing what Prince may have been communicating to them about Judas, his health or any other issues.

Why does this set off alarm bells? Especially, if they have proof when many are okay with M1 writing a whole book with nothing but her word to back up the things she is saying.

Why can't anyone else say anything?
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And where did apollonia say stuff about emails from him about illness? I know she claimed emails from him about her upcoming book...

Remember when Mark Brown said in that interview that he went to see Prince because Apples told him Prince was sick? Then Mark said he may a mistake. She has been hinting from the very beginning that something else was going on with him. Why else would "heads roll" . We cannot keep getting upset with people who know more and do not say what they mean. Then get upset when they are ready to disclose.

Why does everyone pretend Tyka did not say what she said or that the family is trying to file a wrongful death suit against someone or enitiy with insurance money? Why are people pretending that right after Prince died a dozen people said we do not know the whole story. Including his ex-manger Kiran?

All of these people are not nuts.

disch said:

You’ve repeated dozens of times that “many fans” are “afraid” that prince had an illness (I assume you mean a serious/terminal illness other than addiction) / Can you give an example of a fan who is “afraid” of that and why they might have that fear? Given that he’s been dead for 2 years, why would someone fear hearing about illness? - And where did apollonia say stuff about emails from him about illness? I know she claimed emails from him about her upcoming book... laurarichardson said:

It means people are going to get it and the saying is comparing "heads rolling as if a guillotine came down on them. I think she may know who Prince was speaking of as Jubilent Judas and he may have even known what assoicates were going to act a fool after he died.

If he wrote about this stuff to her it will provide more proof that he was ill which is what many fans are afraid of.

laurarichardson said:

You’ve repeated dozens of times that “many fans” are “afraid” that prince had an illness (I assume you mean a serious/terminal illness other than addiction)
/

Yes,

Can you give an example of a fan who is “afraid” of that and why they might have that fear? Given that he’s been dead for 2 years, why would someone fear hearing about illness?

Anyone that has a problem with Apples or any associate disclosing what Prince may have been communicating to them about Judas, his health or any other issues.

Why does this set off alarm bells? Especially, if they have proof when many are okay with M1 writing a whole book with nothing but her word to back up the things she is saying.

Why can't anyone else say anything?
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And where did apollonia say stuff about emails from him about illness? I know she claimed emails from him about her upcoming book...

Remember when Mark Brown said in that interview that he went to see Prince because Apples told him Prince was sick? Then Mark said he may a mistake. She has been hinting from the very beginning that something else was going on with him. Why else would "heads roll" . We cannot keep getting upset with people who know more and do not say what they mean. Then get upset when they are ready to disclose.

Why does everyone pretend Tyka did not say what she said or that the family is trying to file a wrongful death suit against someone or enitiy with insurance money? Why are people pretending that right after Prince died a dozen people said we do not know the whole story. Including his ex-manger Kiran?

All of these people are not nuts.

disch said:

You’ve repeated dozens of times that “many fans” are “afraid” that prince had an illness (I assume you mean a serious/terminal illness other than addiction) / Can you give an example of a fan who is “afraid” of that and why they might have that fear? Given that he’s been dead for 2 years, why would someone fear hearing about illness? - And where did apollonia say stuff about emails from him about illness? I know she claimed emails from him about her upcoming book... laurarichardson said:

"My Mother always says EVERYTHING in the dark comes to the light".

I can only speak for myself, but I'm fine with anyone saying anything; when it comes to this Prince stuff, I'm not into bullying anyone into silence because I don't agree with them or doubt their facts (whether that person is online, an associate, etc.)

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As for Appolonia, I'm skeptical that she has first-hand knowledge about what was going on with Prince in his final weeks (first hand = stuff Prince told her himself, or she witnessed herself). I would be less skeptical if she described her book as her talking about her experience during the time she worked closely with Prince (i.e., Purple Rain era).

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But my skepticism doesn't mean she's not free to talk about whatever she wants or prove me wrong. As for Prince telling apples about his health issues via email, the example you gave was her saying something to Brownmark but I don't think that was because Prince had emailed her about his problems. That honestly seems so unlike Prince to spill his health secrets with anyone.

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And we've talked about this so many many times, but once again: We OBVIOUSLY don't know the whole story. We know very little about Prince's last weeks/months. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. There might be disagreement with what people think all those blank spots are filled with.

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(As for your bringing up Mayte's book, where she discussed her experiences during the decade she worked closely with Prince and/or was married to him: We don't need to drag Mayte into every thread about any other associate. You can start a new thread to continue discussing Mayte's book, if you have more to say about it.)

laurarichardson said:

You’ve repeated dozens of times that “many fans” are “afraid” that prince had an illness (I assume you mean a serious/terminal illness other than addiction)
/

Yes,

Can you give an example of a fan who is “afraid” of that and why they might have that fear? Given that he’s been dead for 2 years, why would someone fear hearing about illness?

Anyone that has a problem with Apples or any associate disclosing what Prince may have been communicating to them about Judas, his health or any other issues.

Why does this set off alarm bells? Especially, if they have proof when many are okay with M1 writing a whole book with nothing but her word to back up the things she is saying.

Why can't anyone else say anything?
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And where did apollonia say stuff about emails from him about illness? I know she claimed emails from him about her upcoming book...

Remember when Mark Brown said in that interview that he went to see Prince because Apples told him Prince was sick? Then Mark said he may a mistake. She has been hinting from the very beginning that something else was going on with him. Why else would "heads roll" . We cannot keep getting upset with people who know more and do not say what they mean. Then get upset when they are ready to disclose.

Why does everyone pretend Tyka did not say what she said or that the family is trying to file a wrongful death suit against someone or enitiy with insurance money? Why are people pretending that right after Prince died a dozen people said we do not know the whole story. Including his ex-manger Kiran?

All of these people are not nuts.

disch said:

You’ve repeated dozens of times that “many fans” are “afraid” that prince had an illness (I assume you mean a serious/terminal illness other than addiction) / Can you give an example of a fan who is “afraid” of that and why they might have that fear? Given that he’s been dead for 2 years, why would someone fear hearing about illness? - And where did apollonia say stuff about emails from him about illness? I know she claimed emails from him about her upcoming book... laurarichardson said:

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I'm not into bullying anyone into silence because I don't agree with them or doubt their facts (whether that person is online, an associate, etc.)

I am glad you are not that way but others are. To the point of having had whole topics deleted.

Apples knows something or big mouth Mark would not have made that statement and then tried to take it back. If Tyka said she received an e-mail who is to say others did not or he spoke to them. We know he sent e-mails with instructions concerning Paisley Park and we know he gave Phedra some authority over his contracts. All of this should tell you something had changed.

Some people around him know more then they let on.

I only bring Mayte up as an example. Why do people believe her and know one else when about half of what she has to say cannot be proven? We do not need another thread everytime her name comes up.

disch said:

I can only speak for myself, but I'm fine with anyone saying anything; when it comes to this Prince stuff, I'm not into bullying anyone into silence because I don't agree with them or doubt their facts (whether that person is online, an associate, etc.)

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As for Appolonia, I'm skeptical that she has first-hand knowledge about what was going on with Prince in his final weeks (first hand = stuff Prince told her himself, or she witnessed herself). But my skepticism doesn't mean she's not free to say it or prove me wrong. As for Prince telling apples about his health issues via email, the example you gave was her saying something to Brownmark but I don't think that was because Prince had emailed her about his problems. That honestly seems so unlike Prince to spill his health secrets with anyone.

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And we've talked about this so many many times, but once again: We OBVIOUSLY don't know the whole story. We know very little about Prince's last weeks/months. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. There might be disagreement with what people think all those blank spots are filled with.

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(As for your bringing up Mayte's book covering the decade she worked closely with Prince and/or was married to him: We don't need to drag Mayte into every thread about any other associate. You can start a new thread to continue discussing Mayte's book, if you have more to say about it.)

laurarichardson said:

You’ve repeated dozens of times that “many fans” are “afraid” that prince had an illness (I assume you mean a serious/terminal illness other than addiction)
/

Yes,

Can you give an example of a fan who is “afraid” of that and why they might have that fear? Given that he’s been dead for 2 years, why would someone fear hearing about illness?

Anyone that has a problem with Apples or any associate disclosing what Prince may have been communicating to them about Judas, his health or any other issues.

Why does this set off alarm bells? Especially, if they have proof when many are okay with M1 writing a whole book with nothing but her word to back up the things she is saying.

Why can't anyone else say anything?
-
And where did apollonia say stuff about emails from him about illness? I know she claimed emails from him about her upcoming book...

Remember when Mark Brown said in that interview that he went to see Prince because Apples told him Prince was sick? Then Mark said he may a mistake. She has been hinting from the very beginning that something else was going on with him. Why else would "heads roll" . We cannot keep getting upset with people who know more and do not say what they mean. Then get upset when they are ready to disclose.

Why does everyone pretend Tyka did not say what she said or that the family is trying to file a wrongful death suit against someone or enitiy with insurance money? Why are people pretending that right after Prince died a dozen people said we do not know the whole story. Including his ex-manger Kiran?

All of these people are not nuts.

[Edited 3/12/18 10:38am]

[Edited 3/12/18 10:55am]

ChocolateBox3121 said:

laurarichardson said:

You’ve repeated dozens of times that “many fans” are “afraid” that prince had an illness (I assume you mean a serious/terminal illness other than addiction)
/

Yes,

Can you give an example of a fan who is “afraid” of that and why they might have that fear? Given that he’s been dead for 2 years, why would someone fear hearing about illness?

Anyone that has a problem with Apples or any associate disclosing what Prince may have been communicating to them about Judas, his health or any other issues.

Why does this set off alarm bells? Especially, if they have proof when many are okay with M1 writing a whole book with nothing but her word to back up the things she is saying.

Why can't anyone else say anything?
-
And where did apollonia say stuff about emails from him about illness? I know she claimed emails from him about her upcoming book...

Remember when Mark Brown said in that interview that he went to see Prince because Apples told him Prince was sick? Then Mark said he may a mistake. She has been hinting from the very beginning that something else was going on with him. Why else would "heads roll" . We cannot keep getting upset with people who know more and do not say what they mean. Then get upset when they are ready to disclose.

Why does everyone pretend Tyka did not say what she said or that the family is trying to file a wrongful death suit against someone or enitiy with insurance money? Why are people pretending that right after Prince died a dozen people said we do not know the whole story. Including his ex-manger Kiran?

All of these people are not nuts.

"My Mother always says EVERYTHING in the dark comes to the light".

It will all come out one day and I doubt it is all that horrible.

What made Apples think that Prince was sick? Did Prince himself tell her that, or is she/was she just going by what the media and other people were saying about his OD in Moline?

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Prince was telling everyone he was fine and holding parties at PP.

I wasn't thinking about moderators doing their jobs (deleting threads, etc) when I mentioned bullying people. I don't consider moderation bullying.

laurarichardson said:

I'm not into bullying anyone into silence because I don't agree with them or doubt their facts (whether that person is online, an associate, etc.)

I am glad you are not that way but others are. To the point of having had whole topics deleted.

I consider orger's asking for all topics to be deleted to be silly and a form of censorship.

disch said:

I wasn't thinking about moderators doing their jobs (deleting threads, etc) when I mentioned bullying people. I don't consider moderation bullying.

laurarichardson said:

I'm not into bullying anyone into silence because I don't agree with them or doubt their facts (whether that person is online, an associate, etc.)

I am glad you are not that way but others are. To the point of having had whole topics deleted.

cloveringold85 said:

What made Apples think that Prince was sick? Did Prince himself tell her that, or is she/was she just going by what the media and other people were saying about his OD in Moline?

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Prince was telling everyone he was fine and holding parties at PP.

Re read.

Remember when Mark Brown said in that interview that he went to see Prince because Apples told him Prince was sick? Then Mark said he may a mistake.

Why would she tell Mark to go see Prince because he was sick if he was not sick? Could she have gotten this info from Prince or from a crystal ball.

I believe this was before Moline because Mark said he wanted to see about a reunion tour for the Revolution. Let us hope that Mark is not so crass that he went to PP to talk about a reunion tour after Moline. From what we know no one who wanted to see Prince got to after Moline.

laurarichardson said:

bondno9 said:

It doesn't mean anything. Just some jibberish talk from an attention seeking former protege. She's turning out to be a troublemaker and loves starting unncecssary drama. So full of bitterness and jealousy.

It's means heads will roll. I am not sure she is committing a crime if she wants to disclouse the "Judas" he was speaking of.

Some of you act like the other associates have wings coming out of their backsides with the B.S. they have pulled but Apples is killing people.

Yes, she is killing people. In honor of International Women's Day someone on Twitter tagged Sheila, WendyandLisa, Apollonia, and Jill. The tag was for a t-shirt that said, "Vanity & Sheila E & Apollonia & Wendy+Lisa." A fan felt Jill should have gotten equal billing. You know what Apollonia does? Comments the shirt sux eggs. The person who designed the t-shirt "apologized" and said it was done out of love. This person had nothing to apologize for. Instead, Apollonia goes all postal about something so petty as a t-shirt ... and on International Women's Day. Geesh. THIS is the messed up, disrespectful stuff she does. Makes a nasty comment about something (if it's tied to Sheila or Mayte) and leaving most fans to ask "what's her beef???" So, yeah she's the one with the problem.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

What made Apples think that Prince was sick? Did Prince himself tell her that, or is she/was she just going by what the media and other people were saying about his OD in Moline?

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Prince was telling everyone he was fine and holding parties at PP.

Re read.

Remember when Mark Brown said in that interview that he went to see Prince because Apples told him Prince was sick? Then Mark said he may a mistake.

Why would she tell Mark to go see Prince because he was sick if he was not sick? Could she have gotten this info from Prince or from a crystal ball.

I believe this was before Moline because Mark said he wanted to see about a reunion tour for the Revolution. Let us hope that Mark is not so crass that he went to PP to talk about a reunion tour after Moline. From what we know no one who wanted to see Prince got to after Moline.

Actually Prince invited Tamron Hall to PP after the Moline incident but she declined. Which she regrets to this day.

"Heads will roll" means someone will be punished for something bad they have done..."Heads will fall" which is what she said, has no specific meaning...she probably meant "heads will roll" but it is pretty funny that in such a spicy post she can't get her adages to behave...

cloveringold85 said:

I believe she may have felt that way after Denise’s memorial.
Felt or expressed that she thought he was sick or looking not the same.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

But she did not see him and no one else has said they went to see him. The Third Eye girls were with him at the Dakota and the mgr of the Dakota.

bondno9 said:

Do you think it's possible that in her grief she lashed out at Mayte and Sheila for profiting from sharing things about P and now that she's thinking of doing it, it makes her feel like a hypocrite?
To shame Mayte for writing a book and breaking the 'Purple Code of Silence' and then to announce you're writing a book is hypocritical. But...
Circumstances change, opinions evolve and let's face it I don't think these women are wealthy, living in the lap of luxury so they probably need the money. Hell in this economy who doesn't? If Apples wants to write a book, or anyone for that matter, and the fans want it, why not profit from telling your story? As long as it's TRUTHFUL and not fabricated or filled with conspiracies! I don't think Prince would mind if they were able to better take care of their families and themselves. I don't think he would mind at all, as long as it's truthful...

bondno9 said:

Who would you say she's most angry at and why?
Does she want more recognition from the fans? Like, what's wrong? She seems very defensive at times and I wish her issues could be alleviated...

laurarichardson said:

Some people when you talk to them although it's been a while it seems like not a day has passed. Let's say she was one of those people with P, do you still think he would have shared such intimate information with an associate that hadnt been around much in the last few years? I know there's been talk about her being at Paisley at one point but were they close like THAT, where she would have 'head rolling' information? Lol
Maybe they were tight but I'm skeptical.

MonaLiza said:

laurarichardson said:

It means people are going to get it and the saying is comparing "heads rolling as if a guillotine came down on them. I think she may know who Prince was speaking of as Jubilent Judas and he may have even known what assoicates were going to act a fool after he died.

If he wrote about this stuff to her it will provide more proof that he was ill which is what many fans are afraid of.

Some people when you talk to them although it's been a while it seems like not a day has passed. Let's say she was one of those people with P, do you still think he would have shared such intimate information with an associate that hadnt been around much in the last few years? I know there's been talk about her being at Paisley at one point but were they close like THAT, where she would have 'head rolling' information? Lol Maybe they were tight but I'm skeptical.

We have no idea who he communicated with. We are now finding out he communicated with Vanity up to 2012 per her brother in law.

Mark Brown said Apples told him Prince was sick. Tyka has told us she knew Prince was dying two years ahead via a e-mail and we now know he left directions for Paisley Park with many associates.

He also reached out to people he had not spoken to in sometime. Why would Apples be any different then any other associates? Not one single person on this board that has an issue with her will explain why he would not have spoken to her just like he did other associates.

Even Dez said he spoke to Prince in January and he will never disciuss what they talked about but no one questions Dez.

Tired of people on this board going after women assoicates because they do not like their boob jobs or just hate any women that were in Prince's orbit.