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Reply #360 posted 12/22/17 11:28am

purplefam99

purplerabbithole said:

Equating Prince with Harvey Weinstein?? Weinstein hates women.


I really hope no women come forward to say that Prince sexually harassed them or gave them the "suck my dick" ultimatim.



As for the music industry, I am surprised no women have come forward yet about rock star behavior. It might be that the environment is so much more open about sex than a newsroom that no one is surprised that men and women were fucking around at work and men were proposing young starlets. I don't know. I suspect that Prince used the 'soft sell" and not the"hard sell"approach to coming on to girls. Its easier to disassociate from a man's advances if he is using a subtle approach (not connected with a job ultimatim) than some big burly aggressive man who corners you in his hotel room and states that you need to perform favors if you want to work in this industry. I do know that Sheila E was asked by Larry King about the producer's couch and sexual harassment. She acknowledged that it happened to her. Larry King then said "Prince didn't do that did he?" She answered that he was a "gentleman". Another thing, good looking dudes probably do get away with it more. Prince himself was probably propositioned quite a bit himself. Look at Sherri Shepherd on the View (she groped his knee while stating that she dreamed about making love with him--imagine if the genders/sizes had been reversed) or the guitarist from Living Colour talking about women's reactions to Prince himself. He was a womanizer, but he was also womanized.








laurarichardson said:


I do not hate anyone. I am being honest. I do not think Prince disliked women he liked them too much if anything. He was greedy and he wanted them all. I do not think all of the women hated him but there are a few that have made it plain that they wanted a carreer ( Carmen) and you have to be joking if you think he did not know that about some of them but he kept right on going.




With all of the stories about how Hollywood works coming out. It is hard to believe that you cannot see that the music industry is a part of the same system. Also you need to read "Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus" Men do not think like women as much as we want them to.





purplerabbithole said:


Damn.



I don't know who you hate more--Prince or the women he was with? you seem to think Prince disliked all the women he was with (except what was between their legs) and they all hated him except for what was in his wallet













Backstage, the boardroom, all places of work. I’m sure it was/is Everywhere the soft sale is the more palatable of the two. That is what “a gentleman” would do
If doggishness is instinct then I don’t mind a well trained dog that can take no.
P was well trained in that respect.
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Reply #361 posted 12/22/17 1:40pm

luvsexy4all

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

That's why he liked them. The ones who were strong willed like Vanity & Carmen, it was a very volatile relationship. He couldn't control them.

So if you are virgin you can be easily molded? How is that so? Does virginity make you stupid?

This news to me. I hate to inform you but P was a dog. This is how dogs think.

1) Virgins - Good Sex because I can teach.

2) Young girls - No money I am in control.

3) Young girls - I do not want anything old but money and wiskey.

4) Young girls - Ego inflation.

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Vanity went off the rails on drugs - She had no control over herself and wanted to be paid.

Carmen - wanted a career out of Prince and when he was not willing to make it happen she left for the Playboy train.

"ill only do it for a worthy cause..virginity or menopause"

[Edited 12/22/17 13:40pm]

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Reply #362 posted 12/22/17 9:41pm

purplefam99

laurarichardson said:

It is not offensive to me but appears to be offensive to some orgers thus they are getting upset about the discussion of his dog behavior. Some are acting as if he was cheating on them.



If Mayte wants to believe she was the love of Prince's life she is free to believe but did he act like she was the love of his life? Actions speak louder then words.



Some men run around because they want to. Sometimes it is nothing more to it then that. Andre had two brothers that were pimps and later went to prison. N. Minneapolis had a pimp culture these young guys grew up around that. Andre has been married 3 times and has 7 kids. Maybe he settled down because he had to.



Dogs are not weak and every person was not meant for settling down. He choose to have polyarnous stituations the whole of his life.




purplerabbithole said:


Can I ask you something. Why is the implication that Prince might have weakness or vulnerabilities that motivate his darker "dog" side such an offensive notion that you accuse people of being in their feelings? I agree that women in his life acting surprised by his womanizing ways is irritating. But most men, I suspect, who can't settle down with one woman (even into their 50's and after it has caused them much drama) have some issues. Even Warren Beatty outgrew his ego-stroking womanizing ways. Mayte can get on my nerves sometimes but I don't understand why what she said is such an outrageous statement. Prince was a sexual man and had urges. But middle aged men's urges do slow down eventually. So I don't think it was all just physical urges that motivated him. PLus, from all accounts, Prince was more comfortable around women than men anyhow.


I suspect that Prince's relationships with women were motivated by sex, companionship, ego, temptation, insecurity, loneliness, control, love, and artistic inspiration. I suspect that it was a messy blend of all thse things. I don't think chucking it all up to his environment is all there is to it. After all, Andre came from an even more pimpish environment and it sounds like he settled down. I get the feeling that it is more offensie to you that Prince be called weak than be called a dog. Well, dogs are weak..






laurarichardson said:



Co-sign. He had a dog side to his personality and I wish somepeople would get out of their feelings and into reality. Devin said he even told her when he broke up with her that he had a bad side and he did not want her to see.



He told her he was going out to club and she was not invited to come along. His dog side was coming out and he was giving her notice.




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I heard he loved when the song Atomic Dog was played in clubs. smile
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Reply #363 posted 12/23/17 10:24am

Morgaine

ThatWhiteDude said:

The people who say that Mayte stalked him forget, that it was Prince who called all the time, it was Prince who told her she was in the band, but the first video she apeared in was in 1992, so if I got this right, she waited for two years and missed her chance with cairo, because he made her wait.



And yes she could've gone to cairo, but don't forget her age, and I think she was a little naive too. Because she was so young and in awe, because she met prince and even better, he called her too, they were talking on the phone. Just imagine it was one of you, you would've forgot ciaro too.



I would never blame Mayte, if I would have to blame anyone, I would blame her parents, especially her mother. She was the one who urged Mayte to do the video, Mayte didn't want to do it at first because she thought that he wouldn't be interested in it. But she couldn't know that Prince falls in love with her looks.



I think he respected what she did and that she did it since she was a child. I think he loved her passion for belly dancing. And she loved him and his passion for his music.



I wouldn't say they didn't love each other, because you could see it up until the tragic loss of their child and the misscariage. He loved her and she loved him, that's for sure.



But was it right? Well, if it's true that he waited with the relationship until she was 20 or older, than I see nothing wrong because both are adults, I don't care if their adults and there are a lot of couples with great age gaps that really do work but they managed to begin the relationship on the same level, Prince didn't do that. Prince manipulated her from the beginning, making her wait for two years, and telling her she can't go to cairo, because she's in the band. I don't think that's right. He should've started the relationship in another way. But Prince was controlling, Mayte is not the first person to say that, and the funny thing is, she protects him in every interview I've seen so far. She even protects him when it comes to his controlling ways, she never really attacks him for that.



Is she blind? Maybe, but that only shows you how much she still loves the man. Because love can make you blind. And don't forget her age when she was married to him.



^^^ THIS ^^^
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The kind of love that takes over your body, mind, & soul
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