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PrintableIn this interview at PP in November 2015 about his P&M tour, P played Andy songs for the journalists. https://www.theguardian.c...inneapolis
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pinkcashmere23 said:
He was still using Lala as a video dancer in 2013 and she had the Latina look.She said he wanted to take her on tour but was afraid of Mayte comparisons.She posted a clip of her dancing to Kiss on her twitter and said Prince sent her live recordings to make up choreography for.-I think she would have been a good choice actually but he went with Damaris instead.I think the last tour the Twinz danced for him was Welcome 2 Australia. Ahh ok thx a bunch! | |
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Not that I know of.She was asked recently during a FB Live if she would ever go back to Paisley and her eyes teared up and she said she didn't know because it was so different now.Then said,maybe one day she would.She didn't seem to want to dwell on it and quickly moved on to answering other questions. I saw her at the Dakota this past April. She played a few songs then began what Obviously going to be a few words about Prince. She began with a pause said one word, pause pause, shook her head ever so slightly what was about to be a flood of tears and then moved on. And just went into the the next song. I felt for so deeply she could not even get two words out. And that place is tiny so your like Right next to her feeling all that. She cared deeply for him. | |
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purplerabbithole said: I think they had a relationship that was mostly very sweet. But Prince f'd it up with his abandonment issues, workaholic tendencies and general obsession with all things musical/feminine. I doubt he was fvcking every musical protege he worked with, but the emotional investment he took on to mentor a new protege was probably obvious to previous or current girlfriends. Having a bunch of female friends whether you are fucking them or not is not a good idea for sustaining a longterm romantic relationship. In the long term, he was a better friend to females than a boyfriend due to these tendencies of his. However, women acting naive about this aspect of his personality piss me off and Andy at least never publically acted like their breakup devastated her. She seems to have handled it with maturity. Its funny that people assume that Prince tells women what to wear etc. But he obviously is influenced by them as well. The afro was her thing and he took it and emulated it.
And I'm guessing it was probably getting harder for him to hide his Pain management techniques. That in itself could have motivated her to move on. If he wasn't being honest about the pain, or was intolerable when he was. Their quality moments could have been very random, when your trying to work, manage a love, and manage a beast like pain, plus maybe a few other ladies. I can't imagine being a silent partner with him in all that. But maybe you have to sign a NDA prior to dating???? Hmmm so much to consider. | |
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Thanks for sharing..I remember he invited fans to attend the event and streamed Oui Can Luv on Tidal during the party.Some people thought Prince played the album during the P&M announcement because he was planning to ask Andy to join him during the tour since her own European tour was scheduled for the same time. | |
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You're welcome! | |
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.They went to the Dakota together so I can imagine how hard that was for her.She looked like she was trying not to cry while answering the question about Paisley but you could see the tears and hear it in her voice.She spoke more easily about happier memories.Spending time at the Arboretum ,watching Barbarella and beating him at pingpong.You can tell she still loved him.He seemed to still care for her as well at least as a friend.She said he was always pushing her to challenge herself and she has to do that for herself now since he's not here to push her.I got the impression that they were still keeping in touch last year from what she said. [Edited 9/9/17 17:05pm] | |
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Just a quick add: Prince and Andy were starting to have troubles around Spring of 2013. I remember her posting in August 2013 saying that Prince was just busy with his new band and if he were to call her she would oblige when asked about their collaborations. Then at the end of that year, she posted a video of her singing along to Prince's song in her car (I think he recorded her) and in a January of that year, she also posted the demo to U Will B. So at the beginning of 2014, things had fallen off. Although they were spotted out in March of that year I think? Together? | |
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sharpieheartz said: Just a quick add: Prince and Andy were starting to have troubles around Spring of 2013. I remember her posting in August 2013 saying that Prince was just busy with his new band and if he were to call her she would oblige when asked about their collaborations. Then at the end of that year, she posted a video of her singing along to Prince's song in her car (I think he recorded her) and in a January of that year, she also posted the demo to U Will B. So at the beginning of 2014, things had fallen off. Although they were spotted out in March of that year I think? Together? Also, a deleted tweet from his Prince3EG account was tweeted to Andy about him wanting to work on a Superconductor Reloaded album in 2015 and coincidentally, her brother played an unreleased song that was originally meant for Superconductor. Maybe it would've been on there? | |
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I remember her saying that.After attending the Billboard Awards in May,Andy headed to Europe for the first leg of her Superconducor tour.She played a music festival in Belgium and the NSJ Festival where Prince watched backstage.Prince returned home and did an interview with Dr.Funkenberry and told him he wanted to release a remix album of Superconductor with he and Andy's duets included.When asked,Andy says she knows nothing about it.In November 2013,a few days after Andy posted the clip of her in the car,Prince showed up at the last show of Andy's residency at Hotel Café,surprising her.After the show they chatted a bit,then Prince left.Andy went back to Europe for the second leg of her tour.She did a few interviews while there and Prince posted them on his twitter,along with a clip of The Calm.They appeared to be on good terms again.In March 2014,Prince and Andy were seen together at Liv's show and Andy was by the stage at his show the next night.He performed People Pleaser and Superconductor without her..In April Andy sang two new songs at her show at The Mint in LA..Don't Ever Say and Time Heals All Wounds.Prince wasn't there but Andrew Gouche was her bassist.I remember Prince posting an article about her titled Princess Of Soul around that time and her Youtube video of At Your Best in May.Nik West chatted with Dr.Funk on Spreecast after attending a listening party for Prince's new album and told him Andy was all over it ,though she didn't attend.Judith Hill was there and that may be when she entered the picture.Andy seemed to be doing her own thing,working on her next release Hello.Prince released AOA and PE and Andy showed support on social media but I don't think she was at any of the public events for the albums.Prince tweeted support for Hello and her release party in NYC and encouraged his fans to watch her online shows.Andy said he heard Hello and he loved Tongue Tied.Prince continued to support Andy on Twitter through all of 2015.Sept 10th he was at her show at the Bootleg Theater in LA.-may have been the last time they were seen together.In November Prince played the Oui Can Luv album for journalists at PP announcing the P&M tour while briefly streaming it on Tidal.Jan 2016,Andy tweeted that she heard 1000 X&O's on the radio in the car and had to turn it up and put the top down.Prince responded by tweeting the pic of the Corgi buried in the snow saying "We tried the same thing and this happened."I think that was their last online interaction.Someone in the know did say that Prince called Andy after the plane landing and asked her to come to the last party at PP but she declined.Andy hasn't said anything about it if it happened. | |
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On her facebook page, she has a couple references to telling the people you love that you love them while they are still around. (on MOther's Day in particular and on her dedication to him). She might be referring to her not attending his last party). P being cryptic is not her fault and they weren't dating at the time, but if this is true, it is really sad that Prince's attempt to reach out to people during that time was not seen as the possible cry for help that it was.
P's cryptic nature is truely tragic.
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Yeah, I remember someone also saying that he invited her to PP for the last party and wanted to see her. But then again, someone else said that she was going to come to see if he was okay but he turned around and told her not to due to him not wanting her to get involved in whatever was happening with him. | |
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This came from a reputable source so it may be true that he asked her to come to the last party.I had heard the other rumor as well but I'm not sure of the origin of it.It was also said that Andy was invited to attend/perform at the P&M/Oui Can Luv party but she was performing at an event in LA the next night so Prince settled for playing the album while directing everyone to look at a picture of her on a big screen,like she was opening for him. | |
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[Edited 9/10/17 11:33am] [Edited 9/10/17 11:34am] I remember her Mother's Day post.If it's true that Prince asked her to come to his party and she declined,she probably dealt with horrible guilt afterwards.She also made a post on FB, I believe at the end of July of last year where she basically poured her heart out one night and told everyone she was having a hard time and needed to talk.I think Tamron Hall said he also invited her to the party but she couldn't make it either.Dr Funkenberry flew out and he said in one of his podcasts other people should have been on the plane with him and I wondered who he was referring to. | |
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Thanks for all that recapping I didn't know some of those details. I wonder who funk was referring to as well. | |
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You're welcome.I know,he was rather cryptic. | |
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pinkcashmere23 said:
You're welcome.I know,he was rather cryptic. I do not think asking someone to come to a party is being cryptic. | |
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Sorry.I meant Dr.Funk was being cryptic saying others were supposed to be on the plane with him but not saying more.It made me wonder who he was talking about anyway. [Edited 9/10/17 17:37pm] | |
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Prince wasn't cryptic or too private for his own good?
Prince was keeping things from folks. Hell, let's hope he was keeping things from folks. Otherwise, they are some heartless bastards.
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I was worried about him after he announced the party so soon after.I assumed it was his way of trying to prove to the fans/media he was ok..then Dr.Funk posted the pic of Prince riding his bike that I believe was revealed to be an older pic.Everyone that said they spoke to him after the plane incident said he told them he was fine and not to worry.If he did call Andy,he probably did the same with her and downplayed everything. | |
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So if I understand ,Prince sent his lover Judith away and asked Andy and Tamron to come over for the weekend? | |
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I hope he was keeping stuff from people as well because looking at the numerous people who are coming out of the wood work riding the purple gravy train in the ground is astounding. I hate saying this but it looks like some folks were sitting around waiting for him to die. purplerabbithole said: Prince wasn't cryptic or too private for his own good?
Prince was keeping things from folks. Hell, let's hope he was keeping things from folks. Otherwise, they are some heartless bastards.
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80tomato said: So if I understand ,Prince sent his lover Judith away and asked Andy and Tamron to come over for the weekend? Maybe Judith was getting on his nevres. | |
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or maybe he didn't want her to remind him of what actually happened on the plane... | |
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I wondered about this too, and I think you could be right 80tomato, since Judith witnessed it all. I am here! Where R U?! Gotta broken heart again... | |
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Lala said she spoke with him as well and he told her the same thing,also agreed they should meet up soon.Dani Leigh(dancer in Breakfast Can Wait) said she spoke with him as well.It seems everyone he knew called him to check on him and he told them not to worry.I remember Apples said she wanted to go out there to take care of him when she thought he had the flu. | |
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keep in mind some things. 1.) Prince was a cryptic compartmentalized man his whole life. He most consistently revealed himself through his music. In personal life, it appears that he opened up to people in increments. He was a like a puzzle that each person in his life only received a few pieces of.
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I always thought they dated. They seemed to share something special. He seemed happy and playful during the time she was around. I get the sense Andy will never confirm it, but at least we know there was inspiration for the beautiful songs they made together and presumably about each other. It seems they had unfinished business and residual feelings even though both moved on. He still showed reverence for her despite their breakup. | |
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80tomato said:
or maybe he didn't want her to remind him of what actually happened on the plane... Yep that^, I wondered as a possibility. | |
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purplerabbithole said: keep in mind some things. 1.) Prince was a cryptic compartmentalized man his whole life. He most consistently revealed himself through his music. In personal life, it appears that he opened up to people in increments. He was a like a puzzle that each person in his life only received a few pieces of.
[Edited 9/10/17 19:41pm] --/ I do not think all of them are riding the train and I do not consider The Time of Sheila gravy train riders since he worked with them just a few years ago. People who have not been active in the music industry as live performers in years going out on the road are gravy train riders. I also do not think all were waiting for him to die but some I think were waiting. I also think he had people for him that may have purposely kept people from contacting him for their own selfish reasons. | |
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