paulludvig said:

Here you go http://bbook.com/culture-...evolution/

What's that link supposed to say? You mean the mention of Sign Of The Times? They were around when it was recorded... also, as Prince mentioned in the interview in Cannes that recording went faster now that "the girls" helped out.

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Many songs during that time were just Prince. Many others were Prince and Clare Fisher. Some were Prince and the Revolution (full band) and many others were set up by Prince and then passed to Wendy and Lisa and/or Eric Leeds.

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They worked on a lot of stuff during the sessions that would end up being the Sign Of The Times album. Wether it was jamming on stuff as a band before songs were recorded or wether it was co-writing.

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I just don't understand why people get so upset over their contributions. The fact that Prince was much more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band is not really disputed by anyone that was around him. (the only near equivalency was with The Rebels, the precursor to The Revolution)

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And within The Revolution, Wendy and Lisa stood apart. There was a closer collaboration with them than anyone after. With the possible exception of Eric Leeds and Sheila E.

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Now.... can someone please lock this thread already?

mediumdry said:

paulludvig said:

Here you go http://bbook.com/culture-...evolution/

What's that link supposed to say? You mean the mention of Sign Of The Times? They were around when it was recorded... also, as Prince mentioned in the interview in Cannes that recording went faster now that "the girls" helped out.

.

Many songs during that time were just Prince. Many others were Prince and Clare Fisher. Some were Prince and the Revolution (full band) and many others were set up by Prince and then passed to Wendy and Lisa and/or Eric Leeds.

.

They worked on a lot of stuff during the sessions that would end up being the Sign Of The Times album. Wether it was jamming on stuff as a band before songs were recorded or wether it was co-writing.

.

I just don't understand why people get so upset over their contributions. The fact that Prince was much more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band is not really disputed by anyone that was around him. (the only near equivalency was with The Rebels, the precursor to The Revolution)

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And within The Revolution, Wendy and Lisa stood apart. There was a closer collaboration with them than anyone after. With the possible exception of Eric Leeds and Sheila E.

.

Now.... can someone please lock this thread already?

So what are the songs on SOTT you think W&L worked on?

And to say that Prince was more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band Well according to Wendy perhaps. But she has at various times claimed to have written Purple Rain, much of SOTT and on and on and on.

He was more of a member of the band than he had been before or after...But I do think "Prince and the Revolution" was an accurate description of what it was. If he was a member of the band, then they should have just called it the Revolution. No one says Bruce Springsteen is just a member of the E Street Band. I would guess that P is responsible for 60% of the work (100% of the total vision because he ultimately decided what he was going to include in the music attributed to him), Wendy and Lisa combined 30% and the rest of the band maybe 10%. I am not counting the performance of live work or jamming..which all of them were equally a part of.

paulludvig said:

mediumdry said:

What's that link supposed to say? You mean the mention of Sign Of The Times? They were around when it was recorded... also, as Prince mentioned in the interview in Cannes that recording went faster now that "the girls" helped out.

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Many songs during that time were just Prince. Many others were Prince and Clare Fisher. Some were Prince and the Revolution (full band) and many others were set up by Prince and then passed to Wendy and Lisa and/or Eric Leeds.

.

They worked on a lot of stuff during the sessions that would end up being the Sign Of The Times album. Wether it was jamming on stuff as a band before songs were recorded or wether it was co-writing.

.

I just don't understand why people get so upset over their contributions. The fact that Prince was much more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band is not really disputed by anyone that was around him. (the only near equivalency was with The Rebels, the precursor to The Revolution)

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And within The Revolution, Wendy and Lisa stood apart. There was a closer collaboration with them than anyone after. With the possible exception of Eric Leeds and Sheila E.

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Now.... can someone please lock this thread already?

So what are the songs on SOTT you think W&L worked on?

And to say that Prince was more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band Well according to Wendy perhaps. But she has at various times claimed to have written Purple Rain, much of SOTT and on and on and on.

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paulludvig said:

So what are the songs on SOTT you think W&L worked on?

Watch out. This is a pattern with this questioning. Just look at where paulludvig has already asked questions like this in this thread.

And to say that Prince was more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band Well according to Wendy perhaps.

Where she say that?

But she has at various times claimed to have written Purple Rain

Where's that link at again?

I'll look for it.

Sure you will

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She or Bobby Z did say that the Revolution was the last band Prince was in. That is not the same thing as saying that he was an equal member, mind you. But they did say that.

GuyBros said:

paulludvig said:

So what are the songs on SOTT you think W&L worked on?

Watch out. This is a pattern with this questioning. Just look at where paulludvig has already asked questions like this in this thread.

Where's that link at again?

I'll look for it.

Sure you will

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purplerabbithole said:

He was more of a member of the band than he had been before or after...But I do think "Prince and the Revolution" was an accurate description of what it was. If he was a member of the band, then they should have just called it the Revolution. No one says Bruce Springsteen is just a member of the E Street Band. I would guess that P is responsible for 50 to 60% of the work, Wendy and Lisa combined 30% and the rest of the band maybe 20%. I am not counting the performance of live work or jamming..which all of them were equally a part of.

Absolutely. Prince was the man. The acknowledged genius. But it's all about degrees and shades of gray. I guess it's the difference between being made part of the process and getting the parts to play.

GuyBros said:

paulludvig said:

So what are the songs on SOTT you think W&L worked on?

Watch out. This is a pattern with this questioning. Just look at where paulludvig has already asked questions like this in this thread.

Where's that link at again?

I'll look for it.

Sure you will

[Edited 5/21/17 14:42pm]

Watch out? Why are you guys so afraid to be spesific about what you think W&L contributed to SOTT?

purplerabbithole said:

He was more of a member of the band than he had been before or after...But I do think "Prince and the Revolution" was an accurate description of what it was. If he was a member of the band, then they should have just called it the Revolution. No one says Bruce Springsteen is just a member of the E Street Band.

paulludvig said:

So what are the songs on SOTT you think W&L worked on?

And to say that Prince was more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band Well according to Wendy perhaps. But she has at various times claimed to have written Purple Rain, much of SOTT and on and on and on.

I don't think that's being contested. What is being contested is this narrative that "Wendy perhaps thinks Prince was a Member of the Revolution" bullshit.

Lemme guess.. somebody will say they "look for sources" but in the meantime will just assert this bs.

mediumdry said:

purplerabbithole said:

He was more of a member of the band than he had been before or after...But I do think "Prince and the Revolution" was an accurate description of what it was. If he was a member of the band, then they should have just called it the Revolution. No one says Bruce Springsteen is just a member of the E Street Band. I would guess that P is responsible for 50 to 60% of the work, Wendy and Lisa combined 30% and the rest of the band maybe 20%. I am not counting the performance of live work or jamming..which all of them were equally a part of.

Absolutely. Prince was the man. The acknowledged genius. But it's all about degrees and shades of gray. I guess it's the difference between being made part of the process and getting the parts to play.

Agreed

paulludvig said:

So what are the songs on SOTT you think W&L worked on?

And to say that Prince was more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band Well according to Wendy perhaps. But she has at various times claimed to have written Purple Rain, much of SOTT and on and on and on.

Paul, I think it's safe to say by now that your version of events is a flat out lie and you are just trolling. I'll stop responding to you now. Please take the extra time to learn to read and properly understand texts and if you have trouble understanding the meaning of what is being said, take the quote and ask for explanations. I wish you well.

purplerabbithole said:

He was more of a member of the band than he had been before or after...But I do think "Prince and the Revolution" was an accurate description of what it was. If he was a member of the band, then they should have just called it the Revolution. No one says Bruce Springsteen is just a member of the E Street Band. I would guess that P is responsible for 60% of the work (100% of the total vision because he ultimately decided what he was going to include in the music attributed to him), Wendy and Lisa combined 30% and the rest of the band maybe 10%. I am not counting the performance of live work or jamming..which all of them were equally a part of.

I would guess that Prince was responsible for closer to 90% of the released work. Perhaps somewhat less if we count the work in the vault from that periode.

mediumdry said:

paulludvig said:

So what are the songs on SOTT you think W&L worked on?

And to say that Prince was more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band Well according to Wendy perhaps. But she has at various times claimed to have written Purple Rain, much of SOTT and on and on and on.

Paul, I think it's safe to say by now that your version of events is a flat out lie and you are just trolling. I'll stop responding to you now. Please take the extra time to learn to read and properly understand texts and if you have trouble understanding the meaning of what is being said, take the quote and ask for explanations. I wish you well.

Where have I lied?

Even if Prince was responsible for 60 % of the heavy lifting and the band took care of the rest (with W and L standing out), then Prince is still responsible for 100 percent of the vision. He had the ultimate say. He is accused of being a bad editor of his own music at times. But I think that has more to do with quality control (what songs he chose to release, what songs he chose to bury). ..Ultimately, each song's overall sound was up to him. He wouldn't release something he didn't like just because W and L worked on it and he was too busy to finish up a song. He would definitely have imput before and after even if it was vague at times. Even if W and L stated that their opinions and he respected those opinions, it doesn't mean he let them run the show on any of the songs. He was control freak then just as he was a control freak up to his death. His death is even the result of his control issues.

paulludvig said:

mediumdry said:

Absolutely. Prince was the man. The acknowledged genius. But it's all about degrees and shades of gray. I guess it's the difference between being made part of the process and getting the parts to play.

Agreed

purplerabbithole said:

I would guess that P is responsible for 60% of the work (100% of the total vision because he ultimately decided what he was going to include in the music attributed to him), Wendy and Lisa combined 30% and the rest of the band maybe 10%. I am not counting the performance of live work or jamming..which all of them were equally a part of.

I don't think you're being overly generous here.

I really don't think you and I are disagreeing on much if we are disagreeing at all.

Certainly a majority of it. But it gets a little blurry when one is talking about jam sessions etc. The funny thing is Madonna gets full credit (not in the linear notes but in the popular media) for songs she merely wrote the lyrics for. Adele never writes songs all by herself... Sometimes, I think Prince should have alternated back and forth between totally solo, musically stripped down Prince and Prince with a band. Other musicians have done it that way to great succes. The Truth, One Nite Alone and his earlier albums are sadly underappreciated and unknown.

With the released music, maybe Prince goes up to 75 or 80 percent, but the ideas were probably flowing during the Dream Factory sessions, one thing leads to another. no man is an island. Except for Prince about half the time...(to his personal detriment).

paulludvig said:

purplerabbithole said:

He was more of a member of the band than he had been before or after...But I do think "Prince and the Revolution" was an accurate description of what it was. If he was a member of the band, then they should have just called it the Revolution. No one says Bruce Springsteen is just a member of the E Street Band. I would guess that P is responsible for 60% of the work (100% of the total vision because he ultimately decided what he was going to include in the music attributed to him), Wendy and Lisa combined 30% and the rest of the band maybe 10%. I am not counting the performance of live work or jamming..which all of them were equally a part of.

I would guess that Prince was responsible for closer to 90% of the released work. Perhaps somewhat less if we count the work in the vault from that periode.

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paulludvig said:

mediumdry said:

Paul, I think it's safe to say by now that your version of events is a flat out lie and you are just trolling. I'll stop responding to you now. Please take the extra time to learn to read and properly understand texts and if you have trouble understanding the meaning of what is being said, take the quote and ask for explanations. I wish you well.

Where have I lied?

Where are those quotes where Wendy is saying that Prince is simply a member of the Revolution? Oh, and we're still waiting on the source where claim somebody else said they wrote Purple Rain.

purplerabbithole said:

The funny thing is Madonna gets full credit (not in the linear notes but in the popular media) for songs she merely wrote the lyrics for. Adele never writes songs all by herself... Sometimes, I think Prince should have alternated back and forth between totally solo, musically stripped down Prince and Prince with a band. Other musicians have done it that way to great succes. The Truth, One Nite Alone and his earlier albums are sadly underappreciated and unknown.

Yeah, it's that sort of nebulousness that allows for some people to completely disregard the input of any other artists.

GuyBros said:

paulludvig said:

Where have I lied?

Where are those quotes where Wendy is saying that Prince is simply a member of the Revolution? Oh, and we're still waiting on the source where claim somebody else said they wrote Purple Rain.

Wendy or Bobby said the The Revolution was the last band that Prince was in. I haven't found the original source of the quote about PR, but I trust Bart to get his facts straight. These are not lies. But you might have a differnt interpretation of the quotes.

paulludvig said:

GuyBros said:

Where are those quotes where Wendy is saying that Prince is simply a member of the Revolution? Oh, and we're still waiting on the source where claim somebody else said they wrote Purple Rain.

Wendy or Bobby said the The Revolution was the last band that Prince was in.

Yeah I think that most people here can see the kind of bait and switch of

And to say that Prince was more a member of the Revolution than that the Revolution was only his backing band Well according to Wendy perhaps.

Is different than saying "Prince was simply a member of the revolution." Those two different things.

The latter part of that you are simply trying to dismiss them as a backing band, which they weren't.

But yeah.

I agree that Prince did utilize their talents of the band much like the difference between Dave Matthews Band is vs Dave Matthews or Bob Marley & The Wailers and Bob Marley as a solo artists. And yeah, you're right in that I would agree that they would not simply saying that Prince was only a member of the Revolution but one in which he utilized their collective talents.

I haven't found the original source of the quote about PR

Let us know when you do. Want to ensure we're all about them facts like you say you are

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GuyBros said:

Hey! This is the closest we have come to actually agreeing on something. I think this is a good time to log off. It's late in my part of the world. Best wishes!

that is a huge exaggeration. Madonna is HUGE on talking about who co-wrote, who produced, who played on who wrote who inspired. So that is far from the truth. That is why no one really questions anything. Except for Justify My Love-how that song came about was one of contentions Ingrid Cesar I believe was the creator. Susannah Melvoing wrote Candy Perfume Girl(Ray of Light)

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And people in the band ESPECIALLY the Revolution have always talked about what was ALL Prince and what the full band or particualar musicians worked on.

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For example I have a Chicago Public Radio 2009 Podcaste with Wendy & Lisa and the clearly go into all the songs that was totally Prince going into description of his style of drumming or need for certain kinds of privacy to get certain lyrics out

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Prince said in a 1990 interview that by Controversy he had more people on the songs/albums

but he probably meant Dirty Mind. There are people that don't realize the synth/synth solo on Head is Dr Fink

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Controversy

Jack U Off Prince Lisa Coleman Bobby Z Dr Fink

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1999 as far as we know is mostly Prince

1999 Prince Lisa Coleman Dez Dickerson Jill Jones

Little Red Corvette Prince Lisa Coleman Dez Dickerson -guitar/solo

Delirious Prince Lisa Coleman

Let's Pretend We're Married

DMSR Prince Lisa Coleman Brown Mark (and 5 other associates/engineers etc on background vocals)

Automatic Prince Lisa Coleman Jill Jones

Something In the Water Does Not Compute

Free Prince Lisa Coleman Vanity Jill Jones Wendy Melvoin

Lady Cab Driver Prince Jill Jones

All the Critics Love U in NY

International Lover

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Purple Rain

1. Let's Go Crazy is a live rendition with full band and later studio edits and teaks

2. Take Me With U is a full band recording(studio) with Jill Jones/Lisa underneath Prince/Apollonia's vocals David Coleman Suzi Katayama Novi Novog

3. The Beautiful Ones -ALL Prince

4. Computer Blue -full band studio recording

5. Darling Nikki -ALL Prince

6. When Doves Cry -ALL Prince

7. I Would Die 4 U -full band recording (combination live/studio) I think Sheila E/Juan Escovedo might be on it, but they are on the extended release version w/Eddie M

8. Baby I'm a Star -full band recording (combination live/studio) David Coleman Suzi Katayama Novi Novog

9. Purple Rain -full band recording (combination live/studio) David Coleman Suzi Katayama Novi Novog(string arrangements by Lisa Coleman)
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But guess what, there are many sites/people that still insist the was all Prince

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Around the World In A Day

1. David Coleman/Prince co-production -instruments that we know by David Coleman, Jonathon Melvoin, Prince, backing vocals Lisa Wendy Susannah BrownMark Dr Fink possibly Bobby Z

2. Paisley Park (?) Prince Wendy Lisa ... Novi Novog

3. Condition of the Heart -All Prince

4. Rasperry Beret - Prince Lisa Wendy ... David Coleman, Novi Novog, Suzi Katayama, Susannah Melvoin

5. Tamborine -Prince with Jonathon Melvoin on tamborine

6. America -full band recording w/ Brad Marsh tamborine

7. Pop Life - Prince full band recording with Jonathon Melvoin on tamborine / Sheila E

8. the Ladder -full band recording /w Eddie M Susannah Melvoin and Taj Sevelle and 6 stringed instrumentalists

9. Temptation - Prince w/ Eddie M

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Parade

1. Christopher Tracy's Parade -Prince Lisa Coleman Wendy

2. New Position - Prince Lisa Wendy Melvoin

3. I Wonder U - Prince Lisa Wendy -Clare Fisher Orchestra

4. Under the Cherry Moon -Prince

5. Girls & Boys -Prince full band recording /Sheila E Eric Leeds Atlanta Bliss

6. Life Can Be So Nice -Prince Sheila E-cowbells

7. Venus de Milo -Prince and I think Sheila E

8. Mountains -Prince full band recording (lisa coleman/wendy composition) w/Eric Leeds Atlanta Bliss

9. Do U Lie? -Prince Jonathon Melvoin-drums

10. Kiss -Prince with a a lot of David Z BrownMark Mazarati somewhere

11. Anotherloverholenyohead -Prince full band

12. Sometimes It Snows In April - Prince Lisa Coleman Wendy Melvoin

w/ Clare Fisher Orchestra on many of the songs

purplerabbithole said:

Certainly a majority of it. But it gets a little blurry when one is talking about jam sessions etc. The funny thing is Madonna gets full credit (not in the linear notes but in the popular media) for songs she merely wrote the lyrics for. Adele never writes songs all by herself... Sometimes, I think Prince should have alternated back and forth between totally solo, musically stripped down Prince and Prince with a band. Other musicians have done it that way to great succes. The Truth, One Nite Alone and his earlier albums are sadly underappreciated and unknown.

With the released music, maybe Prince goes up to 75 or 80 percent, but the ideas were probably flowing during the Dream Factory sessions, one thing leads to another. no man is an island. Except for Prince about half the time...(to his personal detriment).

paulludvig said:

I would guess that Prince was responsible for closer to 90% of the released work. Perhaps somewhat less if we count the work in the vault from that periode.

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C what I mean, and thank U for posting that. Could you post the link to the whole discussion?

You still seem to be accusing me of having a certain opinion based on what? Maybe I was tired and done with the discussion? Maybe I just didn't feel the need to address one way or another?

How do I think you should have taken that line (That Someone Else Typed That You Ascribed To Me?) How is it I'm being left with the bag of explaination when I did not say it? Do you see how your confusion caused further confusion and probably -most likely skewerd your opinion in responding/understand me? You should just say 'Ooops I was Wrong' and not continue to try to push your point. Not say BUT (which tends to excuse the apology.

purplerabbithole said:

HERE IS THE QUOTE THAT CAUSED OUR ARGUMENT>>>>> HOw do you think a newbie would read a line like that (in or out of context)? YOU didn't say the line but you didn't disagree with it or clarify. You appreciated the post (maybe in its entirety so maybe I am nitpicking) So, apologies for attributing the quote to you. But you can see how I might have interpreted as you agreeing that W and L did most of the music. Its like Prince's original songs were completed by them but their songs weren't even completed by Prince but merely worked on by the band and attributed to him.

OldFriends4Sal
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errant said:

I don't think he was jealous of them. I do, however, think he was a bit intimidated by them and the fact that he was becoming increasingly dependent on them for either a lot of inspiration or a lot of the flourishes that took his music to a higher level. There are several songs during the Revolution era that either started out as W&L songs and ended up Prince & the Revolution songs or started out as Prince songs that W&L finished off for him. I think he felt a need to break out on his own again, where he called all the shots creatively. I think he respected them too much and was too into what they contributed to his music to put them too much under his thumb, so he made a clean break with them to start over and build from the ground up again.

After their departure, both acts have had moments of brilliance. But it's often lacking the synergy that three creative minds thinking on similar wavelenths can produce. And ever since, in Prince's case, he's never had a strong collaborative partner that worked as well as the collaboration with W&L did. Even though he utilized Levi, Ricky P., Kirk, etc., to steer him in the directions he wanted or felt he need to go, there's rarely anything as wonderful as the music he released (and didn't release) with Wendy & Lisa. The Dream Factory outtakes alone could add up to Prince's most interesting, compelling, and truly Revolutionary albums of his career, were such a thing to have seen the light of day in 1986 or 1987.

Great statement that I can tell is not spoken from a biased or emotional place

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paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

the link. I want to read the whole thing. Not your cut in paste.

Put the quote in the org search engine and you'll get a lot of hits

Naw, I want Mr Facts to post it. Or concede that he was wrong until then.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I wasn't wrong. The quote is from 98. It was originally postet on a website called Prince Family and disussed at alt.music.prince. Bart postet the quote on the org and you even commented on it yourself.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Again. Nice list. But for accuracy you should mention were the input from others is limited to backing vocals.

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Naw, I want Mr Facts to post it. Or concede that he was wrong until then.

I wasn't wrong. The quote is from 98. It was originally postet on a website called Prince Family and disussed at alt.music.prince. Bart postet the quote on the org and you even commented on it yourself.

Nice try, Bart isn't the primary source. And his indirect quote is already linked by me ^^.

GuyBros said:

Original source? Even BartVanHemelen who paulludvig might be quoting (Reply #45) didn't provide a source.

That'd explain why paulludvig can't produce the original "source" At the very least maybe acknowledge that you're indirectly quoting somebody who doesn't have a citation for the original source.

Please provide a link to the source itself and the actual interview so we can all factually confirm it exists. Thanks!

You mentioned you're all about the facts and that you'd look for it. Let us know where it's at so we can check this out with you!

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GuyBros said:

The interview was discussed at lenght on alt.music.prince at the time and even Prince commented on it on the Love4Another site. You act as if I made it up.
Here is the quote again:
Wendy: Prince always wanted money and control, period. Lisa and I wrote "Purple Rain." We came to rehearsal with the melody and the idea, and then over the next two days everyone worked on it and fleshed it out. But for "Computer Blue," we just contributed a keyboard line. That's writing? You just never knew what [credit] he would give you. He just wanted absolute power in every way, and we were too much for him. That's why he fired us."
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paulludvig said:

The interview was discussed at lenght on alt.music.prince at the time and even Prince commented on it on the Love4Another site."

Where is this information at so we can locate it? Where are you coming up with this?

Please provide a link to the source itself and the actual interview so we can all factually confirm it exists. Thanks!

You mentioned you're all about the facts and that you'd look for it. Let us know where it's at so we can check this out with you!

I apologize for simplifying your notions but you did agree with the statements that person made. Maybe, it was because you were tired as you said. But I was tired too when I read it and it rubbed me the wrong way. So therefore may have forgotten that you weren't the one who made those statements but rather someone who seemed to applaud them.

OldFriends4Sale said:

C what I mean, and thank U for posting that. Could you post the link to the whole discussion?

You still seem to be accusing me of having a certain opinion based on what? Maybe I was tired and done with the discussion? Maybe I just didn't feel the need to address one way or another?

How do I think you should have taken that line (That Someone Else Typed That You Ascribed To Me?) How is it I'm being left with the bag of explaination when I did not say it? Do you see how your confusion caused further confusion and probably -most likely skewerd your opinion in responding/understand me? You should just say 'Ooops I was Wrong' and not continue to try to push your point. Not say BUT (which tends to excuse the apology.

purplerabbithole said:

HERE IS THE QUOTE THAT CAUSED OUR ARGUMENT>>>>> HOw do you think a newbie would read a line like that (in or out of context)? YOU didn't say the line but you didn't disagree with it or clarify. You appreciated the post (maybe in its entirety so maybe I am nitpicking) So, apologies for attributing the quote to you. But you can see how I might have interpreted as you agreeing that W and L did most of the music. Its like Prince's original songs were completed by them but their songs weren't even completed by Prince but merely worked on by the band and attributed to him.

OldFriends4Sal
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moderator

Great statement that I can tell is not spoken from a biased or emotional place

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There are three threads about Prince being jealous about Wendy and LIsa.. its one of those. that's why i couldn't find it at first-- I didn't release the threads were slightly different when I looked back at them.. The second one listed maybe.

OldFriends4Sale said:

C what I mean, and thank U for posting that. Could you post the link to the whole discussion?

You still seem to be accusing me of having a certain opinion based on what? Maybe I was tired and done with the discussion? Maybe I just didn't feel the need to address one way or another?

How do I think you should have taken that line (That Someone Else Typed That You Ascribed To Me?) How is it I'm being left with the bag of explaination when I did not say it? Do you see how your confusion caused further confusion and probably -most likely skewerd your opinion in responding/understand me? You should just say 'Ooops I was Wrong' and not continue to try to push your point. Not say BUT (which tends to excuse the apology.

purplerabbithole said:

HERE IS THE QUOTE THAT CAUSED OUR ARGUMENT>>>>> HOw do you think a newbie would read a line like that (in or out of context)? YOU didn't say the line but you didn't disagree with it or clarify. You appreciated the post (maybe in its entirety so maybe I am nitpicking) So, apologies for attributing the quote to you. But you can see how I might have interpreted as you agreeing that W and L did most of the music. Its like Prince's original songs were completed by them but their songs weren't even completed by Prince but merely worked on by the band and attributed to him.

OldFriends4Sal
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moderator

Great statement that I can tell is not spoken from a biased or emotional place

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