DD55 said:

Identity said:

Yeah, yeah. I know it's not in the book, it's Nona's story. Trying to add some perspective here.

Kindly may I ask this another way. We're on Chapter 12, please share your thohghts on that chpater for disucssion. thanks!

Was anything about Prince having seizures in Chapter 12? Just asking, I'm waiting on my book from the public library...I think I'm 14 on the list. However, I have read excerpts from interviews online as well as watched interviews.

PennyPurple said:

I'm curious. Has everyone who is commenting on this thread read the book?

I did read the book. Why are you questioning people just because some are questioning her statements. You can't dictate how people feel about the book but claim you want to be respectful of people who are not glowing over the book. You are not questioning others if they have read the book who glow over the book and believe everything she says. I am sorry if questioning what I read is a problem for some. If she release this book when Prince was alive, I bet she would not say half of the things she is claiming in the book. That is the bottom line.

Asenath0607 said:

DD55 said:

Kindly may I ask this another way. We're on Chapter 12, please share your thohghts on that chpater for disucssion. thanks!

Was anything about Prince having seizures in Chapter 12? Just asking, I'm waiting on my book from the public library...I think I'm 14 on the list. However, I have read excerpts from interviews online as well as watched interviews.

No I don't think she said anything about him having seizures when she was with him.

Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

I'm curious. Has everyone who is commenting on this thread read the book?

I did read the book. Why are you questioning people just because some are questioning her statements. You can't dictate how people feel about the book but claim you want to be respectful of people who are not glowing over the book. You are not questioning others if they have read the book who glow over the book and believe everything she says. I am sorry if questioning what I read is a problem for some. If she release this book when Prince was alive, I bet she would not say half of the things she is claiming in the book. That is the bottom line.

The reason I'm asking is because 1/2 the people on this forum said they refuse to read the book and then come over here to argue. I didn't say you, I didn't even give names.

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I'm not trying to dictate how people feel about the book, hell I'm just wanting to discuss THE BOOK. That's what this thread is for THE Book, there are at least 5 other threads to bad mouth Mayte and what she says on TV, this is about the contents written in the book. I understand there are conflicts between what she is saying on TV and what she says in the book. I understand there are conflicts IN the book. I've pointed out several myself. But let's try to stick to the book, PLEASE.

PennyPurple said:

Purplestar88 said:

I did read the book. Why are you questioning people just because some are questioning her statements. You can't dictate how people feel about the book but claim you want to be respectful of people who are not glowing over the book. You are not questioning others if they have read the book who glow over the book and believe everything she says. I am sorry if questioning what I read is a problem for some. If she release this book when Prince was alive, I bet she would not say half of the things she is claiming in the book. That is the bottom line.

The reason I'm asking is because 1/2 the people on this forum said they refuse to read the book and then come over here to argue. I didn't say you, I didn't even give names.

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I'm not trying to dictate how people feel about the book, hell I'm just wanting to discuss THE BOOK. That's what this thread is for THE Book, there are at least 5 other threads to bad mouth Mayte and what she says on TV, this is about the contents written in the book. I understand there are conflicts between what she is saying on TV and what she says in the book. I understand there are conflicts IN the book. I've pointed out several myself. But let's try to stick to the book, PLEASE.

You are very right...

sorry for my derailment at times Penny

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

The reason I'm asking is because 1/2 the people on this forum said they refuse to read the book and then come over here to argue. I didn't say you, I didn't even give names.

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I'm not trying to dictate how people feel about the book, hell I'm just wanting to discuss THE BOOK. That's what this thread is for THE Book, there are at least 5 other threads to bad mouth Mayte and what she says on TV, this is about the contents written in the book. I understand there are conflicts between what she is saying on TV and what she says in the book. I understand there are conflicts IN the book. I've pointed out several myself. But let's try to stick to the book, PLEASE.

You are very right...

sorry for my derailment at times Penny

Seriously Lovejunky, you aren't the problem. And really Purplestar isn't either.

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said:

Lovejunky said:

You are very right...

sorry for my derailment at times Penny

Seriously Lovejunky, you aren't the problem. And really Purplestar isn't either.

Thank you..hugs are always appreciated and welcomed...

LBrent said:

Asenath0607 said:

I'm definetly not making excuses for him; I just will not believe that it happened until the person/people that were there and saw it state so publicily. I refuse to assume this is the truth based upon the statement "someone told me". You make an acccusation that will be considered by many as a vile act committed by the child's father; and yet you refuse to state who told you the information, so that this information can be collaborated? We are just to believe and accept that he did this? Personally, I just won't. Furthermore, if someone does step up and say, "yep, I was there and I saw it"; were the ashes actually in the urn? Like someone keeps asking, "how do you burn ashes"? Isn't it also a posibility that Prince did indeed spread the ashes somewhere and just disposed of everything else? For all we know his dad's, his son's and Prince's remains are all in the same urn at PP. Why are so many people who profess to love Prince, care about his legagcy and are his "fam", so quick to believe this is true when MG won't reveal the source of this information?

Personally, I think Mayte is being naive by believing what she was told, but I also think she accepted it as fact. was upset and afraid to confront him...but after the book and revisiting those long ago events she might be ready to reconsider what she was told back then and rethinking who told her and their possible reasons for not telling the truth.

In my heart, I don't think this occured to her back then, but it might now that she's been away from the purple bubble awhile...and regardless, my heart doesn't accept that P would willfully destroy Amiir's ashes...the empty urn? Possibly, but not with the ashes still in it.

Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope.

I would hope that the one who told her Mani (IMO) would not be that cruel to another woman. To lie and stab her in the heart and the back at the same time. I would also think the asst, (kirk) who carried out these orders would be kind enough to let Mayte know exactly what happened. And I think that if the family knows anything about this or have the ashes or urn, they would certainly reach out to Mayte. BUT we all know how that family and crew are and they probably won't say anything, even though it would help Mayte know the truth.

Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

Purplestar88 said:

I did read the book. Why are you questioning people just because some are questioning her statements. You can't dictate how people feel about the book but claim you want to be respectful of people who are not glowing over the book. You are not questioning others if they have read the book who glow over the book and believe everything she says. I am sorry if questioning what I read is a problem for some. If she release this book when Prince was alive, I bet she would not say half of the things she is claiming in the book. That is the bottom line.

The reason I'm asking is because 1/2 the people on this forum said they refuse to read the book and then come over here to argue. I didn't say you, I didn't even give names.

.

I'm not trying to dictate how people feel about the book, hell I'm just wanting to discuss THE BOOK. That's what this thread is for THE Book, there are at least 5 other threads to bad mouth Mayte and what she says on TV, this is about the contents written in the book. I understand there are conflicts between what she is saying on TV and what she says in the book. I understand there are conflicts IN the book. I've pointed out several myself. But let's try to stick to the book, PLEASE.

Questioning her statements does means someone is bad mouthing her or is a hater. Her statements in writtten and televised interviews is diretly link to the book. I state my opinion, then I have someone claiming I have no compassion and bringing up sexual assault. But you don't see that as taking the thread some were else.

judy1023 said:

Was she worried about createing a shit storm for other people she mention it the book? If it was not a big deal to her and she is over it, why mention it? She has no proof it happened. Only when pushed she is a claiming she spoke to Prince about, before that was left out of her story. Who knows if she really talk to him and what they spoke about. He is gone so she can claim anything. I don't understand why it is a crime to question someone's story. I also don't understand how I am being label as not being compassionate because question her ever changing story.

Because this shit storm as you call it, was a major, major part of HER life. How do you ever get over something like that? When did she claim that she has talked to Prince about it?

This is solely my opinion, but if P had not 4/21'd and his memoirs had been published, regardless of what he said, I D-double guarantee that the folks who nitpick Mayte's "inconsistancies" would elbow everybody out of the way, pinch their nostrils and swallow like P had just drank a gallon of pineapple juice and they were guzzling his warm creamy purpleness...well, y'all get the idea of the metaphor.

And if Mayte or any of the purple siserwives grumbled that P didn't quite tell the story they knew firsthand the way it happened, they'd be called ungrateful goldigging trollops. Let's be real.

C'mon. If you can't admit it publicly, at least admit it to yourselves.

Purplestar88 said:

LBrent said:

PennyPurple said:

judy1023 said:

PennyPurple said:

judy1023 said:

Because this shit storm as you call it, was a major, major part of HER life. How do you ever get over something like that? When did she claim that she has talked to Prince about it?

Someone else use the word "shit storm". The person feels she did not want to create a "shit storm" for the person who told her the information. My answer is, did she cared about the "shit storm" she may be createing for others? The answer is no. She has no problem naming names and pointing fingers but all of a sudden she on some high moral ground and can't give the name of the person telling her these things. Your right, that is her of life and her life can be questioned just like anybody else. People question Prince life all the time. Why should she be held to a different standard. She tells different stories and is geting a pass for it but if Prince or another associate did that they would be riped apart. I have seen it for myself. No one is giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying they were sad and that's why they are saying different stories. I stand by my statements unitl I know other wise. You can not dictate how I feel about this topic.

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Lovejunky said:

judy1023 said:

judy1023 said: I would be curious to think if Mayte interprets having a baby in real sense. Love letter is just a fantasy mind, but removing birth control and putting both of their mind into action is totally different.

Well...

according to her book

P alerts her to his Opinion that "its time" to get really intimate by suggesting she get onto Birth Control..so he wasnt ready for a baby at that time

Then she documents "no longer a virgin"

so obviously whatever Birth control she selected was in place...

then she alludes to getting pregnant on their wedding night..

Baby Ahmir was born early apparently 8 months later

so obviously there was a mutual decision made to not use whatever Birth control they had decided on..which begs the question....

Were they using condoms?

...becasue thats the only kind of Birth control that is immediately INACTIVE

and if we are to believe an old daliance of his, he didnt favor condoms with her so why with Mayte...?

and If not condoms it was Birth control Pills or an IUD, abstinence from or removal of would surely HAVE Been discussed..

and If Mayte made tht decision on her own without talking to Prince about it..then SHE WAS Thinking about having babies....

its quite clear

and L Brent.if you are reading ..this is not NITPICKING..

This is looking at what has been documented or stated as fact and seeing INCONSISTANCY

bottom line Mayte states that Having a baby was news to her on her wedding night in the interview in the NYT

Yet at other times in the Oprah interview for example she states that having a family is all she ever wanted...

and in her book she shares a letter in which Prince pays her the ultimate compliment by saying he wants ONLY her Children ...before he even Proposes

I just cant believe that it was never discussed or mentioned until their wedding night.

shoot me now

edited for spelling mistooks

LBrent said:

This is solely my opinion, but if P had not 4/21'd and his memoirs had been published, regardless of what he said, I D-double guarantee that the folks who nitpick Mayte's "inconsistancies" would elbow everybody out of the way, pinch their nostrils and swallow like P had just drank a gallon of pineapple juice and they were guzzling his warm creamy purpleness...well, y'all get the idea of the metaphor.

And if Mayte or any of the purple siserwives grumbled that P didn't quite tell the story they knew firsthand the way it happened, they'd be called ungrateful goldigging trollops. Let's be real.

C'mon. If you can't admit it publicly, at least admit it to yourselves.

I feel opposite. People would be questioning his account but when someone questions Mayte it is a big issue. That should not be the case. He did speak on alot of things in his life and she taking advange of that.

Purplestar88 said:

LBrent said:

This is solely my opinion, but if P had not 4/21'd and his memoirs had been published, regardless of what he said, I D-double guarantee that the folks who nitpick Mayte's "inconsistancies" would elbow everybody out of the way, pinch their nostrils and swallow like P had just drank a gallon of pineapple juice and they were guzzling his warm creamy purpleness...well, y'all get the idea of the metaphor.

And if Mayte or any of the purple siserwives grumbled that P didn't quite tell the story they knew firsthand the way it happened, they'd be called ungrateful goldigging trollops. Let's be real.

C'mon. If you can't admit it publicly, at least admit it to yourselves.

I feel opposite. People would be questioning his account but when someone questions Mayte it is a big issue. That should not be the case. He did speak on alot of things in his life and she taking advange of that.

Uh Huh

Pineapple juice goes down smoooooth if it's chilled a bit and a few maraschino cherries are added...

Just sayin'

LBrent said:

Misslink88 said:

BillieBalloon said:

Misslink88 said:

It is obvious that the 2 or 3 people who are stanning so hard for Mayte in this thread HATE Prince. They would much rather believe horrible things about him than face the many, many facts that have been pointed out about Mayte's conflicting "different stories" and now this "confirmation" of him burning the ashes. Again, all she did was say "yes, he did" without providing any concrete evidence. Apparently everybody has to back up what Prince said or did with CONCRETE IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE, but when Mayte "says" something, it's gospel. Even the videos tapes from that era where she is saying/doing something different from what she wrote are dismissed by these individuals. I really wonder what they are doing on a PRINCE fan forum besides calling his real supporters "haters" and "sh*t disturbers". SMH

We have yet to track down a set list for Barcelona 25th July 1990 that has Thieves in the Temple on the setlist. Remember this is when they first heard the Middle Eastern music and decided to give Prince a tape.

I don't remember her saying which song she heard that sonded middle eastern, but...since she wasn't alone at the concert, surely there must be someone still alive who attended who could confirm or deny the setlist since clearly it is an anyurism-inducing issue for some.

How difficult could it be to go to a P fansite in Spain and simply ask in the forum?

And put that bit of silliness to bed give folks more time to find something else to nitpick set everyone's minds to rest...

[Edited 4/25/17 3:01am]

BillieBalloon said:

LBrent said:

Personally, I think Mayte is being naive by believing what she was told, but I also think she accepted it as fact. was upset and afraid to confront him...but after the book and revisiting those long ago events she might be ready to reconsider what she was told back then and rethinking who told her and their possible reasons for not telling the truth.

In my heart, I don't think this occured to her back then, but it might now that she's been away from the purple bubble awhile...and regardless, my heart doesn't accept that P would willfully destroy Amiir's ashes...the empty urn? Possibly, but not with the ashes still in it.

Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope.

Mayte was NOT afraid to confront Prince over Manuella, which she did as has been documented in the book. Why would she not confront him about the most important thing in the world to her? but have no qualms about confronting him about a side piece. These are the legitimate concerns that people have with her about including the ashes issue in the book. There are no wtnesses to testify it happened There is no circumstantial evidence You cannot presume guilt on mere hearsay. Prince has been put on trial for this issue and found guilty by many, on the mere fact that somebody said something to her who was told by somebody else.

But see, here's what some folks seem to be missing at this point of dead horses throttling...

Mayte wrote the book. Why not express those pressing concerns to Mayte?

She's a performer/writer. Performer/writers have agents, possibly listed in the back of her book.

Agents are in contact with their performer/writer/clients and a letter sent to a performer/writer/client's agent has a far better chance of getting your concerns to the party who can address your woes questions than does engaging in a back and forth with complete strangers on a message forum on the Internet.

You ken?

Sheesh

Misslink88 said:

joytotheworld said:

Please see LBrent's response so aptly stated above regarding this type of situation of not having to prove one's truth. As already stated, no one cares. Mayte isnt on trial here and it's not a witchhunt. In a year or few years time, do you really think people are going remember let alone care what Prince did or didnt do. The book has been read and discused. Time to move on.

[Edited 4/24/17 17:22pm]

I would suggest the same to you. If you are done discussing it, then move on. If others want to continue discussing it, what is the problem? Who decides when others are "done"?

There is a difference of moving on and harping on the same stuff over and over on many different threads.

LBrent said:

BillieBalloon said:

LBrent said: Mayte was NOT afraid to confront Prince over Manuella, which she did as has been documented in the book. Why would she not confront him about the most important thing in the world to her? but have no qualms about confronting him about a side piece. These are the legitimate concerns that people have with her about including the ashes issue in the book. There are no wtnesses to testify it happened There is no circumstantial evidence You cannot presume guilt on mere hearsay. Prince has been put on trial for this issue and found guilty by many, on the mere fact that somebody said something to her who was told by somebody else.

But see, here's what some folks seem to be missing at this point of dead horses throttling...

Mayte wrote the book. Why not express those pressing concerns to Mayte?

She's a performer/writer. Performer/writers have agents, possibly listed in the back of her book.

Agents are in contact with their performer/writer/clients and a letter sent to a performer/writer/client's agent has a far better chance of getting your concerns to the party who can address your woes questions than does engaging in a back and forth with complete strangers on a message forum on the Internet.

You ken?

Sheesh

You know her friend Dave (meltedman) is here on the org. I might reach out to him to see if Mayte can answer some of these questions. It wouldn't hurt to try.

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On the book club that we are getting ready to start, the authors Alex Hahn and Laura Tiebert are going to participate in.

Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

Because this shit storm as you call it, was a major, major part of HER life. How do you ever get over something like that? When did she claim that she has talked to Prince about it?

Someone else use the word "shit storm". The person feels she did not want to create a "shit storm" for the person who told her the information. My answer is, did she cared about the "shit storm" she may be createing for others? The answer is no. She has no problem naming names and pointing fingers but all of a sudden she on some high moral ground and can't give the name of the person telling her these things. Your right, that is her of life and her life can be questioned just like anybody else. People question Prince life all the time. Why should she be held to a different standard. She tells different stories and is geting a pass for it but if Prince or another associate did that they would be riped apart. I have seen it for myself. No one is giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying they were sad and that's why they are saying different stories. I stand by my statements unitl I know other wise. You can not dictate how I feel about this topic.

[Edited 4/24/17 21:25pm]

Exactly! People that absolutely stan for Mayte want to make standards that apply to every public figure that says things that are either inconsistent or make claims about the deceased that cannot be substantiated not apply to Mayte. What kills me is that she truly believes if Prince was alive, he would support her book. After she wrote things in her book that insinuate that he was a pedophile, drug addict and cold hearted man that burn their baby's ashes without proof. Mayte, Judith Hill and Manuela are one in the same-attention seeking vultures feasting on Prince post mortem. "You can tell if a friendship is beneficial if they are respectful of you when you're not around".-Prince.