independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Associated artists & people > The Most Beautiful: My Life with Prince Book Club: Part 2
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 48 of 60 « First<444546474849505152>Last »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #1410 posted 04/23/17 8:48pm

206Michelle

bashraka said:

PennyPurple said:

I really don't know why everyone is making excuses for Prince for what he did to the ashes. Wrong is wrong is wrong.

.

I still love the man and his music, but damn this is down right hideous.

Because not everyone takes what Mayte says about Prince as gospel.

Why would she lie about the ashes though? Those are the remains of her son.

Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1411 posted 04/23/17 8:52pm

Lovejunky

206Michelle said:

bashraka said:

Because not everyone takes what Mayte says about Prince as gospel.

Why would she lie about the ashes though? Those are the remains of her son.

She might not be Lying...SHe may THINK that the so called "Compassionate Friend"that told her that is telling the TRUTH...

But I ask..

Some one that tells you such a thing...WOuld you really Call them a compassionate friend ?

and

THere is no Proof ..only Heresay from a person whos motives are questionable....

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1412 posted 04/23/17 9:12pm

206Michelle

Lovejunky said:

206Michelle said:

Why would she lie about the ashes though? Those are the remains of her son.

She might not be Lying...SHe may THINK that the so called "Compassionate Friend"that told her that is telling the TRUTH...

But I ask..

Some one that tells you such a thing...WOuld you really Call them a compassionate friend ?

and

THere is no Proof ..only Heresay from a person whos motives are questionable....

I agree, Lovejunky. It's hard to make a judgement about the veracity of the friend's statement without knowing who the friend is.

.

I think that Mayte is telling the truth about what the friend told her, but like you said, what the friend said is heresay. It makes no sense for Mayte to make up the story about the ashes, because if she did, she would alienate a lot of Prince's fans who support her (myself included).

.

I would love to know from Mayte what Prince said to her when she asked him about the ashes, if he said anything at all.

Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1413 posted 04/24/17 3:57am

Purplestar88

206Michelle said:

bashraka said:

Because not everyone takes what Mayte says about Prince as gospel.

Why would she lie about the ashes though? Those are the remains of her son.

She is changing her story every time.How can you go from not being sure, to being sure now? It makes no sense. A lot things she claims in the book makes no sense. That is reason enough not to believe her. She has real no real explanation has to why she did not have the remains in the first place and won't release the name of the person who told her this information but had no issue talking about other personal information. We don't really know if she ask for the remains in the divorce. It seems to me she talking about something that she was not worried about until some shady person got her ear. Now all of a sudden she talked to Prince about. The story keeps expanding. She is taking advantage of the situation of Prince not being here and is being sloppy with statements she makes and thinks no one notice the changing statememets. The media and some of the fans are not holding her reponsible her statements. She does not know what happen to the remains and is making up crap because she knows Prince is not here.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1414 posted 04/24/17 4:58am

Lovejunky

oops

[Edited 4/24/17 6:39am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1415 posted 04/24/17 6:17am

jayseajay

Purplestar88 said:

206Michelle said:

Why would she lie about the ashes though? Those are the remains of her son.

She is changing her story every time.How can you go from not being sure, to being sure now? It makes no sense. A lot things she claims in the book makes no sense. That is reason enough not to believe her. She has real no real explanation has to why she did not have the remains in the first place and won't release the name of the person who told her this information but had no issue talking about other personal information. We don't really know if she ask for the remains in the divorce. It seems to me she talking about something that she was not worried about until some shady person got her ear. Now all of a sudden she talked to Prince about. The story keeps expanding. She is taking advantage of the situation of Prince not being here and is being sloppy with statements she makes and thinks no one notice the changing statememets. The media and some of the fans are not holding her reponsible her statements. She does not know what happen to the remains and is making up crap because she knows Prince is not here.

I don't get this, at all. She doesn't give an explanation of why she didn't have the ashes because its obvious, she was bereaved, depressed, and her marriage was breaking down in actually a very confusing and unclear way, and then she probably just wanted to run away from the whole thing for a while and put herself back together, so she left them in PP, probably assuming they would be safe there...and then at some point later, she found out that they weren't. It's totally possible to make an assumption about something when you're feeling fucked up, and then a bit later, when you're not feeling so fucked up, realize you made a misguided assumption, or that something you assumed was fine may not be...it's also possible to forget/repress something, and then remember it later. Seriously, people who go through fucked up things don't behave consistently, or have perfectly linear thoughts and responses to things, and that is normal. What would not be normal is behaving like the perfectly rational and consistent automaton that people who seem to have no empathy with how traumatic shit screws you up seem to think people should behave. You know what this really reminds me of, people who disbelieve women who have been sexually assuaulted because they say inconsistent things, or don't behave completely rationally when they're tramatized, or don't realize immediately how messed up shit is and immediately rectify it, or who remember things later, and who then get called liars, and all manner of other crap - very often by other women who don't actually know what they're talking about because they haven't experienced it. Really, it's beginning to make me angry.

Not like I love my guitar....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1416 posted 04/24/17 6:38am

Lovejunky

Lovejunky said:

Purplestar88 said:

She is changing her story every time.How can you go from not being sure, to being sure now? It makes no sense. A lot things she claims in the book makes no sense. That is reason enough not to believe her. She has real no real explanation has to why she did not have the remains in the first place and won't release the name of the person who told her this information but had no issue talking about other personal information. We don't really know if she ask for the remains in the divorce. It seems to me she talking about something that she was not worried about until some shady person got her ear. Now all of a sudden she talked to Prince about. The story keeps expanding. She is taking advantage of the situation of Prince not being here and is being sloppy with statements she makes and thinks no one notice the changing statememets. The media and some of the fans are not holding her reponsible her statements. She does not know what happen to the remains and is making up crap because she knows Prince is not here.

I have noticed a few inconsistancies too..There is a recent you tube Video where she says they had never talked about having children until he Played her Lets have a baby on their wedding Night...YET in the book there is tht Letter that Prince wrote to her telling her that he never wanted Babies with anyone else but her....there are others...but I can be bothered...WHatever...Book was a good read..I finished it in one sitting....

Long times Fans will love him forever

New Fans wont get so caught up in details because its all about his Music now...

not Mayte...not Manuela or A,B,C,D E xyz

( I think he did move through the entire alphabet didnt he ? )

Wait..Alphabet street is about something else...LOL

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1417 posted 04/24/17 6:38am

Lovejunky

oops

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1418 posted 04/24/17 6:39am

jayseajay

Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

I really don't know why everyone is making excuses for Prince for what he did to the ashes. Wrong is wrong is wrong.

.

I still love the man and his music, but damn this is down right hideous.

The women is telling different stories. First she is not sure and is down playing it. And now all of a sudden she is sure. I know you saw her recent interviews. When controversial topics are brought up she down plays it but it the book she is big and bold on what she is claiming. She is not believeable. She should state who her source is. She has no problem putting very personal information and moments in the book but want to keep the source of the information a secret. I believe she has no idea what happen to the ashes and is making up stories as to why she does not have it. All the years Prince been around all of a sudden she talking about this story someone told her. If she really thought it was true she would have put it out there a long time ago but she too busy looking to get in a Prince concert for free and doing reality show.

All she claims in the book is that someone told her that that is what happened, and that, quite understandably, that made her angry. Why should she reveal her source, if she thinks that would cause shit for that person? She tells the story from her perspective, and she never claims otherwise. As LBrent suggests, it still leaves open the question of whether he did actually do it, or whether she was misled. All Mayte tells us is that is what she was told and she believed it. And it is very very obvious why she didn't make a stink about it while he was alive, just as its obvious why she didn't name their child in public while he was alive...she still loved him, he still had considerable power over her, and she still wanted his approval ...so she didn't want to do anything to hurt him or make him angry with her. Y'know we're dealing with Prince here right? The guy who sued a woman for a video of a dancing baby? I wouldn't want to piss him off. And if we were estanged and only ocassionally spoke to each other, I think I'd seriously think twice (three, four, a hundred times) before barrellling in and asking him if he burnt our child's remains.

Not like I love my guitar....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1419 posted 04/24/17 6:49am

Bodhitheblackd
og

jayseajay said:

Purplestar88 said:

She is changing her story every time.How can you go from not being sure, to being sure now? It makes no sense. A lot things she claims in the book makes no sense. That is reason enough not to believe her. She has real no real explanation has to why she did not have the remains in the first place and won't release the name of the person who told her this information but had no issue talking about other personal information. We don't really know if she ask for the remains in the divorce. It seems to me she talking about something that she was not worried about until some shady person got her ear. Now all of a sudden she talked to Prince about. The story keeps expanding. She is taking advantage of the situation of Prince not being here and is being sloppy with statements she makes and thinks no one notice the changing statememets. The media and some of the fans are not holding her reponsible her statements. She does not know what happen to the remains and is making up crap because she knows Prince is not here.

I don't get this, at all. She doesn't give an explanation of why she didn't have the ashes because its obvious, she was bereaved, depressed, and her marriage was breaking down in actually a very confusing and unclear way, and then she probably just wanted to run away from the whole thing for a while and put herself back together, so she left them in PP, probably assuming they would be safe there...and then at some point later, she found out that they weren't. It's totally possible to make an assumption about something when you're feeling fucked up, and then a bit later, when you're not feeling so fucked up, realize you made a misguided assumption, or that something you assumed was fine may not be...it's also possible to forget/repress something, and then remember it later. Seriously, people who go through fucked up things don't behave consistently, or have perfectly linear thoughts and responses to things, and that is normal. What would not be normal is behaving like the perfectly rational and consistent automaton that people who seem to have no empathy with how traumatic shit screws you up seem to think people should behave. You know what this really reminds me of, people who disbelieve women who have been sexually assuaulted because they say inconsistent things, or don't behave completely rationally when they're tramatized, or don't realize immediately how messed up shit is and immediately rectify it, or who remember things later, and who then get called liars, and all manner of other crap - very often by other women who don't actually know what they're talking about because they haven't experienced it. Really, it's beginning to make me angry.

WOW! Tru Dat!...the lack of compassion for a traumatized woman by other women on this thread is truly amazing and disturbing.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1420 posted 04/24/17 6:52am

PennyPurple

avatar

Let us not forget that Prince dispatched Mayte to Spain to buy a house for them on the pretense that they were going to live in that house together. That is why he still had her belongings and urn that was all burned.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1421 posted 04/24/17 7:20am

MMJas

avatar

PennyPurple said:

Let us not forget that Prince dispatched Mayte to Spain to buy a house for them on the pretense that they were going to live in that house together. That is why he still had her belongings and urn that was all burned.

Been saying this for ages.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1422 posted 04/24/17 7:26am

jayseajay

PennyPurple said:

Let us not forget that Prince dispatched Mayte to Spain to buy a house for them on the pretense that they were going to live in that house together. That is why he still had her belongings and urn that was all burned.

Quite. Like she thought, 'y'know, I better take all my stuff and these ashes to our new getaway put ourselves back together home in case the whole thing goes to shit and he becomes a religious zealot and in a few years time he decides to burn all my stuff and our child's ashes in the backyard of that dude from Sly and the Family Stone.' Apparently, that would have been way more rational.

Not like I love my guitar....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1423 posted 04/24/17 7:44am

LBrent

Somewhere someone mentioned that they found it inconsistant that Mayte apparently said in an interveiw that "they never discussed having babies" yet in the book Mayte writes about P writing her a letter about having babies.

I have the audiobook so I didn't go back to listen to find out where that part was, but...

Writing me a letter isn't "discussing". You could write me a letter about whatever and that's fine, I'll assume that you just wanted to get that off your chest UNLESS you follow the letter up with a face-to-face conversation, especially if you're a romantic often mercurial musical icon...I ain't assuming anything...Heck, how many guys write stuff to be poetic and aren't being literal?

So P wrote her a romatic poetic letter. If I had been her I wouldn't have run out to outfit a damned baby nursery based on that letter considering that any sort of concrete "discussion" either.

I'm beginning to think that the bothersome "inconsistancies" were because folks read with a mind towards not wanting to believe what they were reading, so they found what they were looking for.

Look, I'm a P fan, period. If anything, I was a Vanity fan as far as Purple Harem goes. I watched many gals come and go before Mayte. So many in fact, I often get confused cuz it got to be sooooo many and some I missed on even hearing about until after 4/21.

I thought Mayte was pretty, didn't know much about her, thought he looked happy, but that's about it...so those who think I'm "defending" her cuz I'm a "Mayte fan"...Yeah, no.

I just don't like bullies and I think some are deliberately trying to discredit her out of either jealousy (I see y'all) or some kind of misguided P loyalty. She hasn't hurt P, but y'all act like he could do no wrong.

I get it. I love him too, but baby boy could be...very alot. Let's be real. VERY VERY ALOT.

[Edited 4/24/17 7:45am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1424 posted 04/24/17 7:47am

kmama07

jayseajay said:



PennyPurple said:


Let us not forget that Prince dispatched Mayte to Spain to buy a house for them on the pretense that they were going to live in that house together. That is why he still had her belongings and urn that was all burned.



Quite. Like she thought, 'y'know, I better take all my stuff and these ashes to our new getaway put ourselves back together home in case the whole thing goes to shit and he becomes a religious zealot and in a few years time he decides to burn all my stuff and our child's ashes in the backyard of that dude from Sly and the Family Stone.' Apparently, that would have been way more rational.



falloff
It's easy for anyone to say what they would have done,not being in the situation. Truth is, one doesn't know until they are in it themselves. Someone remarked about the lack of empathy towards women from women here on the org. I completely agree.
[Edited 4/24/17 7:49am]
[Edited 4/24/17 7:53am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1425 posted 04/24/17 7:53am

LBrent


kmama07 said:

jayseajay said:

PennyPurple said:

Let us not forget that Prince dispatched Mayte to Spain to buy a house for them on the pretense that they were going to live in that house together. That is why he still had her belongings and urn that was all burned.

Quite. Like she thought, 'y'know, I better take all my stuff and these ashes to our new getaway put ourselves back together home in case the whole thing goes to shit and he becomes a religious zealot and in a few years time he decides to burn all my stuff and our child's ashes in the backyard of that dude from Sly and the Family Stone.' Apparently, that would have been way more rational.

[/quote/] falloff It's easy for anyone to say what they would have done,not being in the situation. Truth is, one doesn't know until they are in it themselves. Someone remarked about the lack of empathy towards women from women here on the org. I completely agree. [Edited 4/24/17 7:49am]

Exactly!

And make no mistake, if she'd taken everything, she'd have been called out for that too by some saying she took it all cuz she was "leaving him".

Can't win for losing.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1426 posted 04/24/17 8:04am

Lovejunky

LBrent said:

Somewhere someone mentioned that they found it inconsistant that Mayte apparently sais in an interveiw that "they never discussed having babies" yet in the book Mayte writes about P writing her a letter about having babies.

I have the audiobook so I didn't go back to listen to find out where that part was, but...

Writing me a letter isn't "discussing". You could write me a letter about whatever and that's fine, I'll assume that you just wanted to get that off your chest UNLESS you follow the letter up with a face-to-face conversation, especially if you're a romantic often mercurial musical icon...I ain't assuming anything...Heck, how many guys write stuff to be poetic and aren't being literal?

So P wrote her a romatic poetic letter. If I had been her I wouldn't have run out to outfit a damned baby nursery based on that letter considering that any sort of concrete "discussion" either.

I'm beginning to think that the bothersome "inconsistancies" were because folks read with a mind towards not wanting to believe what they were reading, so they found what they were looking for.

Look, I'm a P fan, period. If anything, I was a Vanity fan as far as Purple Harem goes. I watched many gals come and go before Mayte. So many in fact, I often get confused cuz it got to be sooooo many and some I missed on even hearing about until after 4/21.

I thought Mayte was pretty, didn't know much about her, thought he looked happy, but that's about it...so those who think I'm "defending" her cuz I'm a "Mayte fan"...Yeah, no.

I just don't like bullies and I think some are deliberately trying to discredit her out of either jealousy (I see y'all) or some kind of misguided P loyalty. She hasn't hurt P, but y'all act like he could do no wrong.

I get it. I love him too, but baby boy could be...very alot. Let's be real. VERY VERY ALOT.

That was me...Lbrent..In the Video she says we never talked about babies...She did not use the word Discussed otherwise I would come to the same conclusion you just did..

I am NOT against Mayte to be clear...I am for her...But I have noticed that there are things that she says that are inconsistant.

In that letter...It was VEry Clear that he wanted to have babies with her.

In the Video SHe made it sound like it was News to her and that she went along with it.

I can cut her some slack..not being used to media..Nerves pressure whatever...but It doesnt mean I dont notice the inconsistancies...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1427 posted 04/24/17 8:04am

LBrent

I just had someone in my life wander past me on my laptop and ask me what I was typing and I gave them a brief explanation about us having a bit of a discussion about Mayte's book.

They aren't a P fan and have no clue who M1 & M2 are but I sorta explained enough so they could understand the drama a bit.

This person said to me, "Wow. Sounds intense. Well, maybe that Mayte gal will read what y'all are talking about and a lightbulb will go off over her head about it all."

I hadta laff cuz that would be pretty interesting if that happened so long after the events we're talking about, huh?

eek confused

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1428 posted 04/24/17 8:08am

LBrent

Lovejunky said:

LBrent said:

Somewhere someone mentioned that they found it inconsistant that Mayte apparently sais in an interveiw that "they never discussed having babies" yet in the book Mayte writes about P writing her a letter about having babies.

I have the audiobook so I didn't go back to listen to find out where that part was, but...

Writing me a letter isn't "discussing". You could write me a letter about whatever and that's fine, I'll assume that you just wanted to get that off your chest UNLESS you follow the letter up with a face-to-face conversation, especially if you're a romantic often mercurial musical icon...I ain't assuming anything...Heck, how many guys write stuff to be poetic and aren't being literal?

So P wrote her a romatic poetic letter. If I had been her I wouldn't have run out to outfit a damned baby nursery based on that letter considering that any sort of concrete "discussion" either.

I'm beginning to think that the bothersome "inconsistancies" were because folks read with a mind towards not wanting to believe what they were reading, so they found what they were looking for.

Look, I'm a P fan, period. If anything, I was a Vanity fan as far as Purple Harem goes. I watched many gals come and go before Mayte. So many in fact, I often get confused cuz it got to be sooooo many and some I missed on even hearing about until after 4/21.

I thought Mayte was pretty, didn't know much about her, thought he looked happy, but that's about it...so those who think I'm "defending" her cuz I'm a "Mayte fan"...Yeah, no.

I just don't like bullies and I think some are deliberately trying to discredit her out of either jealousy (I see y'all) or some kind of misguided P loyalty. She hasn't hurt P, but y'all act like he could do no wrong.

I get it. I love him too, but baby boy could be...very alot. Let's be real. VERY VERY ALOT.

That was me...Lbrent..In the Video she says we never talked about babies...She did not use the word Discussed otherwise I would come to the same conclusion you just did..

I am NOT against Mayte to be clear...I am for her...But I have noticed that there are things that she says that are inconsistant.

In that letter...It was VEry Clear that he wanted to have babies with her.

In the Video SHe made it sound like it was News to her and that she went along with it.

I can cut her some slack..not being used to media..Nerves pressure whatever...but It doesnt mean I dont notice the inconsistancies...

Well honey, if he wrote that poetic stuff to me I would'nt consider that having a "talk" either. Lol

And to be honest, unless we sat down and had a face-to-face talk, I would'nt have thought it was a serious thing, just him being poeticand romantic and in the moment.

But that's just me.

lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1429 posted 04/24/17 8:16am

Lovejunky

LBrent said:

Lovejunky said:

That was me...Lbrent..In the Video she says we never talked about babies...She did not use the word Discussed otherwise I would come to the same conclusion you just did..

I am NOT against Mayte to be clear...I am for her...But I have noticed that there are things that she says that are inconsistant.

In that letter...It was VEry Clear that he wanted to have babies with her.

In the Video SHe made it sound like it was News to her and that she went along with it.

I can cut her some slack..not being used to media..Nerves pressure whatever...but It doesnt mean I dont notice the inconsistancies...

Well honey, if he wrote that poetic stuff to me I would'nt consider that having a "talk" either. Lol

And to be honest, unless we sat down and had a face-to-face talk, I would'nt have thought it was a serious thing, just him being poeticand romantic and in the moment.

But that's just me.

lol

I guess its hard for me to believe that when he wrote that letter about wanting to have a baby only with her,

and If not her then no one else..

That at some point she wasnt emotionaly moved to say something to him about what I consdier to be deeply touching words..

But thats just ME lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1430 posted 04/24/17 8:18am

jayseajay

LBrent said:

I get it. I love him too, but baby boy could be...very alot. Let's be real. VERY VERY ALOT.

[Edited 4/24/17 7:45am]

And I still love him to his bones. But seriously people, SO. MUCH. VERY. ALOT.

Not like I love my guitar....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1431 posted 04/24/17 8:22am

Lovejunky

jayseajay said:

LBrent said:

I get it. I love him too, but baby boy could be...very alot. Let's be real. VERY VERY ALOT.

[Edited 4/24/17 7:45am]

And I still love him to his bones. But seriously people, SO. MUCH. VERY. ALOT.

and I totes agree....

He was a Savant....

Thats a LOT of A LOT MORE than MUCH.MORE.THAN.A.VERY.ALOT

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1432 posted 04/24/17 8:36am

jayseajay

Lovejunky said:

jayseajay said:

And I still love him to his bones. But seriously people, SO. MUCH. VERY. ALOT.

and I totes agree....

He was a Savant....

Thats a LOT of A LOT MORE than MUCH.MORE.THAN.A.VERY.ALOT

Yup. He was a genius savant, his higher self was made out of some kind of crazy extraterrestrial spun gold, and parts of his personality and coping skills, were, in significant ways, a dysfunctional mess. That's WAY. MUCH. MORE. THAN. VERY. ALOT. smile

Not like I love my guitar....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1433 posted 04/24/17 9:40am

Lovejunky

jayseajay said:

Lovejunky said:

and I totes agree....

He was a Savant....

Thats a LOT of A LOT MORE than MUCH.MORE.THAN.A.VERY.ALOT

Yup. He was a genius savant, his higher self was made out of some kind of crazy extraterrestrial spun gold, and parts of his personality and coping skills, were, in significant ways, a dysfunctional mess. That's WAY. MUCH. MORE. THAN. VERY. ALOT. smile

So many reasons why
There's so many reasons why
I don't belong here
But now that I am I
Without fear I am
Gonna conquer with no fear
Until I find my way back home

cry cry cry cry cry

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1434 posted 04/24/17 9:59am

LBrent

Lovejunky said:

jayseajay said:

Yup. He was a genius savant, his higher self was made out of some kind of crazy extraterrestrial spun gold, and parts of his personality and coping skills, were, in significant ways, a dysfunctional mess. That's WAY. MUCH. MORE. THAN. VERY. ALOT. smile

So many reasons why
There's so many reasons why
I don't belong here
But now that I am I
Without fear I am
Gonna conquer with no fear
Until I find my way back home

cry cry cry cry cry

I recently read an article about savants and one guy had a brain injury that made him an incredible painter and he describes not being able to stop painting and doing it for 19 at a time cuz he "had to get it out of him". His brain wouldn't let him rest and when he didn't have canvas he painted the walls and floors of his home.

Another guy also had a brain injury and suddenly he saw complex mathematical eqyations everywhere, literally in the air in front of him. And when those equations were analyzed they created intricate geometric shapes. He was hounded by the math and shapes and couldn't stop creating them.

They both spoke of seeing rows and rows of corridors filled with their savant gift (painting and math) and the corridors being never ending. And that overwhelming urge to "get it out of their head so they could rest". They describe that their hunger to keep painting or doing math was unending and although they enjoyed it they also sounded quite tortured by it.

I think that's what P went through with music. He talks about having to get out of bed cuz the music wouldn't turn off and let him sleep.

Sure, it was a gift...but in some ways it was also a bit of a curse. Always be hounded by your favourite thing and not always being able to appreciate or participate in it within the context of a functional life...and healthy relationships and such.

It's a wonder to me how P lasted 57, nearly 58 years on this planet and had any meaningful human connections that his gifts didn't have a measure in ruining to some extent.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1435 posted 04/24/17 10:07am

Lovejunky

LBrent said:

Lovejunky said:

So many reasons why
There's so many reasons why
I don't belong here
But now that I am I
Without fear I am
Gonna conquer with no fear
Until I find my way back home

cry cry cry cry cry

I recently read an article about savants and one guy had a brain injury that made him an incredible painter and he describes not being able to stop painting and doing it for 19 at a time cuz he "had to get it out of him". His brain wouldn't let him rest and when he didn't have canvas he painted the walls and floors of his home.

Another guy also had a brain injury and suddenly he saw complex mathematical eqyations everywhere, literally in the air in front of him. And when those equations were analyzed they created intricate geometric shapes. He was hounded by the math and shapes and couldn't stop creating them.

They both spoke of seeing rows and rows of corridors filled with their savant gift (painting and math) and the corridors being never ending. And that overwhelming urge to "get it out of their head so they could rest". They describe that their hunger to keep painting or doing math was unending and although they enjoyed it they also sounded quite tortured by it.

I think that's what P went through with music. He talks about having to get out of bed cuz the music wouldn't turn off and let him sleep.

Sure, it was a gift...but in some ways it was also a bit of a curse. Always be hounded by your favourite thing and not always being able to appreciate or participate in it within the context of a functional life...and healthy relationships and such.

It's a wonder to me how P lasted 57, nearly 58 years on this planet and had any meaningful human connections that his gifts didn't have a measure in ruining to some extent.

Yep..I think he even said this same thing himself

I felt a sudden rush of compassion for him just now writing this...

He also said..

When you're called You're called...

THe man definately had a HIGHER Purpose..

Almost like some duty to perform,

He was driven by some kind of inexhaustable cosmic feul

that

in the end ,

exhausted his body...

He was spent.....

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1436 posted 04/24/17 1:15pm

Purplestar88

jayseajay said:

Purplestar88 said:

She is changing her story every time.How can you go from not being sure, to being sure now? It makes no sense. A lot things she claims in the book makes no sense. That is reason enough not to believe her. She has real no real explanation has to why she did not have the remains in the first place and won't release the name of the person who told her this information but had no issue talking about other personal information. We don't really know if she ask for the remains in the divorce. It seems to me she talking about something that she was not worried about until some shady person got her ear. Now all of a sudden she talked to Prince about. The story keeps expanding. She is taking advantage of the situation of Prince not being here and is being sloppy with statements she makes and thinks no one notice the changing statememets. The media and some of the fans are not holding her reponsible her statements. She does not know what happen to the remains and is making up crap because she knows Prince is not here.

I don't get this, at all. She doesn't give an explanation of why she didn't have the ashes because its obvious, she was bereaved, depressed, and her marriage was breaking down in actually a very confusing and unclear way, and then she probably just wanted to run away from the whole thing for a while and put herself back together, so she left them in PP, probably assuming they would be safe there...and then at some point later, she found out that they weren't. It's totally possible to make an assumption about something when you're feeling fucked up, and then a bit later, when you're not feeling so fucked up, realize you made a misguided assumption, or that something you assumed was fine may not be...it's also possible to forget/repress something, and then remember it later. Seriously, people who go through fucked up things don't behave consistently, or have perfectly linear thoughts and responses to things, and that is normal. What would not be normal is behaving like the perfectly rational and consistent automaton that people who seem to have no empathy with how traumatic shit screws you up seem to think people should behave. You know what this really reminds me of, people who disbelieve women who have been sexually assuaulted because they say inconsistent things, or don't behave completely rationally when they're tramatized, or don't realize immediately how messed up shit is and immediately rectify it, or who remember things later, and who then get called liars, and all manner of other crap - very often by other women who don't actually know what they're talking about because they haven't experienced it. Really, it's beginning to make me angry.

What does sex assault have to do with what we are talking about. I feel if someone is saying different things, that makes their story unbelievable. You can't say different things and expect to be believed. What she says in interviews is a different story from what she is saying in the book. Be angry. I said noting wrong. Just because I question her story does not mean, I have no compassion for her or other women. neutral

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1437 posted 04/24/17 1:18pm

PennyPurple

avatar

Just a reminder, the book club for The Rise Of Prince will start on April 27. http://prince.org/msg/7/441258?pg=2
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1438 posted 04/24/17 1:26pm

PennyPurple

avatar

On the HLN interview, Mayte said that he did have the ashes thrown in the fire. She confirmed it.

.

And in the book page 264, she said that Prince's assistant was upset that he had been asked to burn the things.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1439 posted 04/24/17 1:28pm

nelcp777

PennyPurple said:

On the HLN interview, Mayte said that he did have the ashes thrown in the fire. She confirmed it.

.

And in the book page 264, she said that Prince's assistant was upset that he had been asked to burn the things.

I can't believe that. That is horrible. No offense to Prince or anyone else. I do not agree with his actions.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 48 of 60 « First<444546474849505152>Last »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Associated artists & people > The Most Beautiful: My Life with Prince Book Club: Part 2