Oh just stop. You've officially jumped the shark.

Zannaloaf said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Rant was here.

Your BLOOD BOILED? That's kinda sad.....

That's what came to mind for me as well. Apparently some folks have a lot invested in their litigious idol.

squirrelgrease said:

Zannaloaf said:

Your BLOOD BOILED? That's kinda sad.....

That's what came to mind for me as well. Apparently some folks have a lot invested in their litigious idol.

Apparently some of you have a higher tolerance for bs.

1.What's funny is Nothing Compares 2 U came on my mp3 player and the pic shown was Sly And The Family Stone Greatest Hits cover lol

2. These pretzels are making me thirsty.

xlr8r said:

1.What's funny is Nothing Compares 2 U came on my mp3 player and the pic shown was Sly And The Family Stone Greatest Hits cover lol

Itunes did the same thing to me. Errr....

xlr8r said:

1.What's funny is Nothing Compares 2 U came on my mp3 player and the pic shown was Sly And The Family Stone Greatest Hits cover lol

2. These pretzels are making me thirsty.

3. I need to shampoo my car mats.

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

Another interesting issue will be the future of The Cinderella Theory and Hey... Man Smell My Finger: George Clinton fought hard to get back as much of his 70's material as possible, and either him or his estate might one day claim the rights to the Capitol and Paisley Park albums. What will Prince do?

A similar situation might occur with Come 2 My House. Chaka Khan recently said that she's trying to get her material back from WB because she wants her vault material to be released and her back catalogue properly handled. If she succeeds and launches a series of remastered reissues, she might want to include NPG Records' owned Come 2 My House.

Prince best not be messin' with George!

Seriously, though, I seem to remember in one of the interview Prince, Chaka & Larry gave, it being mentioned that she could do whatever she wanted with the album in the future, that it was hers, period.

Maybe someone here with a better memory (or the time to search through old interviews) could clarify?

I don't think Prince would retain George's masters either: it would be just weird from someone who fought for the ownership of his own records, he had nothing to do with George's records musically speaking, and Prince probably has too much respect for George to fight him over a bunch of master recordings.

I've never heard the interview you mention but i remember Prince saying in another one that no contract was signed with either Larry or Chaka, which sounds hard to believe for three high level professionals such as Prince, Chaka and Larry. Prince was so involved with both Come 2 My House and GCS2000 that they could be considered his records as much as theirs, but on the other hand I think that Prince also respects Larrry and Chaka way too much to fight them over master recordings. Still, the back covers of both records say "(p) NPG Records", and we all know what this means.

One very interesting issue will be the future of the small Paisley Park acts that recorded their albums without Prince being involved (or only with one or 2 song). Should Prince one day claim to own the masters of albums such as Mazarati, Taja Sevelle, Riot In English, Vermillion, Good Question, Tony LeMans, True Confessions or Things Left Unsaid as well as the non-Prince parts of May, 19 1992, Time Waits For No One, Sheila E., The Voice and Pandemonium, it would put him in the exact position WB has been in for the last 15 years (i.e. an "evil corporate that steals somebody's work of art") and this would have to be very uncomfortable, in terms of image, for Prince.

And as said earlier, we'll see what happens if some people eventually claim their share of the Prince-penned side-projects.

Time will tell...

V10LETBLUES said:

ALANL said:

I'm not sure exactly what "P.R." agenda is served by any of this dialogue among a narrow group of fans. Is it too difficult to recognize that even those IN the music business, and certainly professional performers, were all inspired by their own passion and love of the music and those who make it? Why is it so difficult to accept that we're just music lovers too and can get just as intrigued by the issues fans discuss as you - particularly when the lack of facts direct people to the wrong conclusions. I've said it earlier, I am a fact and fairness freak. So when I spot falsehoods and unfairness my blood boils and I run my mouth. Doesn;t sound much different than a lot of other people on here. And so it goes.

Look Alan I do not respond to many people on this board. I only respond to folks who I think should know better. And yes, my blood boiled when I read the statement from Square One. I Know you are not the poster or responsible for his words, but can you seriously re-read that and tell me why it was written the way it was? It really serves no purpose on a fan site. What was the reason for it to be posted other than for PR purposes? And for you to follow up and chime in and co-sign?

Both of you together joined in a passive aggressive diatribe here is what irks me. Not really as discussion. We do not know your motives, other than to take you at your work that it is only for the love of music. We both know Prince and his camp will not respond here or anywhere else, so I just took as cheap shots. Passive aggressive cheap shots.

No I do not know the ins and out of your little spat, but the way you are going about it is what I find troublesome and unseemly. I am here on this forum because of my love of the music, your soap opera not so much. But I will have to disagree that your presence here in this instance is just about the love and passion of music, but more related to base business/money matters. As talented as your brother is, I love what he added to the music, I think you are going about this all wrong.

[Edited 5/25/11 20:27

You are in the minority. Your interpetation of the original post on here and Alan's replies are your own reactions and based on other feedback here, weird misinterpretations. Please stop acting like your opinoins are facts.

And please stop being rude to people who are deserving of our respect, throwing out accusations and name calling "passive aggressive".

I already asked you to lookk up that phrase and clealry you still haven't done it because you don[t appear to know what it means

ALANL

I've said it earlier, I am a fact and fairness freak. So when I spot falsehoods and unfairness my blood boils and I run my mouth. Doesn;t sound much different than a lot of other people on here. And so it goes.

With that being said, then I vote Alan to be moderator of the Associated Artists forum. Wouldn't be a bad idea to get a former P associate to be a moderator on this forum, especially if some are members here. He'd be a good contributor to this section and could knock out a lot of misinformation, based on his own experience as a former P associate.

*edit* "bandmember to associate"

[Edited 5/26/11 8:29am]

GaryMF said:

You are in the minority. Your interpetation of the original post on here and Alan's replies are your own reactions and based on other feedback here, weird misinterpretations. Please stop acting like your opinoins are facts.

And please stop being rude to people who are deserving of our respect, throwing out accusations and name calling "passive aggressive".

I already asked you to lookk up that phrase and clealry you still haven't done it because you don[t appear to know what it means

You seem like a good person. And I do not have anything against you or anyone here.

I do know what the words I say mean. I am also a business person and well aware of the tone of the posts by them. I am not as naive as some of you not realize that these folks wouldn't come here unless it was for PR reasons.

Maybe they were going for a "grass roots" campaign, I don't know, but whatever it is they wanted, they went at it the wrong way and brought the attention to themselves instead of a pity party for Alan's brother and the band. So they failed.

Maybe continued discussions with Prince's camp or even litigation would be a better course, but there are better forums for this nonsense. But what they have done here is pathetic. Yes my opinion. Minority or not,

[Edited 5/26/11 7:36am]

V10LETBLUES said:

GaryMF said:

You are in the minority. Your interpetation of the original post on here and Alan's replies are your own reactions and based on other feedback here, weird misinterpretations. Please stop acting like your opinoins are facts.

And please stop being rude to people who are deserving of our respect, throwing out accusations and name calling "passive aggressive".

I already asked you to lookk up that phrase and clealry you still haven't done it because you don[t appear to know what it means

You seem like a good person. And I do not have anything against you or anyone here.

I do know what the words I say mean. I am also a business person and well aware of the tone of the posts by them. I am not as naive as some of you not realize that these folks wouldn't come here unless it was for PR reasons.

Maybe they were going for a "grass roots" campaign, I don't know, but whatever it is they wanted, they went at it the wrong way and brought the attention to themselves instead of a pity party for Alan's brother and the band. So they failed.

Maybe continued discussions with Prince's camp or even litigation would be a better course, but there are better forums for this nonsense. But what they have done here is pathetic. Yes my opinion. Minority or not,

[Edited 5/26/11 7:36am]

V10LETBLUES said:

GaryMF said:

You are in the minority. Your interpetation of the original post on here and Alan's replies are your own reactions and based on other feedback here, weird misinterpretations. Please stop acting like your opinoins are facts.

And please stop being rude to people who are deserving of our respect, throwing out accusations and name calling "passive aggressive".

I already asked you to lookk up that phrase and clealry you still haven't done it because you don[t appear to know what it means

You seem like a good person. And I do not have anything against you or anyone here.

I do know what the words I say mean. I am also a business person and well aware of the tone of the posts by them. I am not as naive as some of you not realize that these folks wouldn't come here unless it was for PR reasons.

Maybe they were going for a "grass roots" campaign, I don't know, but whatever it is they wanted, they went at it the wrong way and brought the attention to themselves instead of a pity party for Alan's brother and the band. So they failed.

Maybe continued discussions with Prince's camp or even litigation would be a better course, but there are better forums for this nonsense. But what they have done here is pathetic. Yes my opinion. Minority or not,

[Edited 5/26/11 7:36am]

I don't see what's wrong with PR.

I think Alan came here just because he wanted to contribute on a personnal level, just as he said. This man isn't known for talking bullshit!

And of course Neil came here for PR and so what? He's a manager, his band gets flamed by some people because they chose to make a public statement, so what? Neil did his job which is to protect his artist's interests, period.

As for the "privacy broken" thing, if everything "private" was to remain "private", then you should first flame Liz Jones, Per Nielsen, Alex Hahn, Dez Dickerson and anyone writing books about Prince because they reveal "private" things. And any past associate who chose to contribute this forum in the past or gave interviews about past business with Prince, and Prince himself for fighting WB in public in the 90's. This is 2011, there's nothing such as privacy left in the music business nowadays (and for chrissakes we're not discussing personnal stuff like Prince's love life or anything like that!).

And don't take this too personally anyway: many other people have been rude here, some of them much more than you, and we are talking about all of them.

Peace dude, just call it a day

databank said:

I don't think Prince would retain George's masters either: it would be just weird from someone who fought for the ownership of his own records, he had nothing to do with George's records musically speaking, and Prince probably has too much respect for George to fight him over a bunch of master recordings.

Actually, he did, one of the engineers who worked on George's PP records was here on he org a couple years ago and confirmed Prince's involvement. But, I don't remember exactly what he said and the original posts were deleted.

But, that's besides the point. I agree with your assessment.

2elijah said:

ALANL

I've said it earlier, I am a fact and fairness freak. So when I spot falsehoods and unfairness my blood boils and I run my mouth. Doesn;t sound much different than a lot of other people on here. And so it goes.

With that being said, then I vote Alan to be moderator of the Associated Artists forum. Wouldn't be a bad idea to get a former P associate to be a moderator on this forum, especially if some are members here. He'd be a good contributor to this section and could knock out a lot of misinformation, based on his own experience as a former P band member.

[Edited 5/26/11 7:40am]

Ha ha, now THAT would be cool

PS: Alan Leeds wasn't a BAND member: that would be ERIC Leeds

V10LETBLUES said:

GaryMF said:

You are in the minority. Your interpetation of the original post on here and Alan's replies are your own reactions and based on other feedback here, weird misinterpretations. Please stop acting like your opinoins are facts.

And please stop being rude to people who are deserving of our respect, throwing out accusations and name calling "passive aggressive".

I already asked you to lookk up that phrase and clealry you still haven't done it because you don[t appear to know what it means

You seem like a good person. And I do not have anything against you or anyone here.

I do know what the words I say mean. I am also a business person and well aware of the tone of the posts by them. I am not as naive as some of you not realize that these folks wouldn't come here unless it was for PR reasons.

Maybe they were going for a "grass roots" campaign, I don't know, but whatever it is they wanted, they went at it the wrong way and brought the attention to themselves instead of a pity party for Alan's brother and the band. So they failed.

Maybe continued discussions with Prince's camp or even litigation would be a better course, but there are better forums for this nonsense. But what they have done here is pathetic. Yes my opinion. Minority or not,

[Edited 5/26/11 7:36am]

I am a busines person as well with top school MBA blah blah blah, and I totally disgarree with your opinion and assessment of this whole thread.

Alan and Neil have been nothing but straightforward providing facts and informative.

your interpretation is just that. and that's my opinion.i also think your tone towards Neil and Alan has been quite rude. Again my opinion.

GaryMF said:

V10LETBLUES said:

You seem like a good person. And I do not have anything against you or anyone here.

I do know what the words I say mean. I am also a business person and well aware of the tone of the posts by them. I am not as naive as some of you not realize that these folks wouldn't come here unless it was for PR reasons.

Maybe they were going for a "grass roots" campaign, I don't know, but whatever it is they wanted, they went at it the wrong way and brought the attention to themselves instead of a pity party for Alan's brother and the band. So they failed.

Maybe continued discussions with Prince's camp or even litigation would be a better course, but there are better forums for this nonsense. But what they have done here is pathetic. Yes my opinion. Minority or not,

[Edited 5/26/11 7:36am]

I am a busines person as well with top school MBA blah blah blah, and I totally disgarree with your opinion and assessment of this whole thread.

Alan and Neil have been nothing but straightforward providing facts and informative.

your interpretation is just that. and that's my opinion.i also think your tone towards Neil and Alan has been quite rude. Again my opinion.

I know you didn't get your degree in marketing, lol

Just kidding, I couldn't resist.

I keed i keed.

[Edited 5/26/11 8:13am]

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

I don't think Prince would retain George's masters either: it would be just weird from someone who fought for the ownership of his own records, he had nothing to do with George's records musically speaking, and Prince probably has too much respect for George to fight him over a bunch of master recordings.

Actually, he did, one of the engineers who worked on George's PP records was here on he org a couple years ago and confirmed Prince's involvement. But, I don't remember exactly what he said and the original posts were deleted.

But, that's besides the point. I agree with your assessment.

The engineer was Chronic Freeze and you remember correctly.

Prince contributed nothing on The Cinderella Theory but a few remixes on the Tweakin' maxi-single.

On the other hand, u are right, Prince DID overdub several tracks on Hey Man... Smell My Finger, and composed a song called My Pony, but absolutely none of it was kept on the record as it was released, save the song The Big Pump, which he co-wrote (and which, incidentally, is a TERRIBLE song on this otherwisely excellent album ).

Rumor says that all the outtakes/alternate takes from this album that circulate on bootlegs are the versions Prince contributed to, but I can't say if it's true or not (but this probably can be verified through Scififilmnerd's sessionography or Princevault.com.

I have no idea about the legal status of these unreleased songs and alternate takes, nor do I know if the original multi-tracks are at Paisley Park or in George Clinton's hands.

Y anyone would attack Alan Leeds is BEYOND me.

Alan and His Brother R Legends/Royalty.

TRUE COOL

Any info or insight they offer is a gift.

Alan - Thanks 4 U time and thoughtful words.

sosgemini said:

V10LETBLUES said:

You seem like a good person. And I do not have anything against you or anyone here.

I do know what the words I say mean. I am also a business person and well aware of the tone of the posts by them. I am not as naive as some of you not realize that these folks wouldn't come here unless it was for PR reasons.

Maybe they were going for a "grass roots" campaign, I don't know, but whatever it is they wanted, they went at it the wrong way and brought the attention to themselves instead of a pity party for Alan's brother and the band. So they failed.

Maybe continued discussions with Prince's camp or even litigation would be a better course, but there are better forums for this nonsense. But what they have done here is pathetic. Yes my opinion. Minority or not,

[Edited 5/26/11 7:36am]

OMG!!! The post monster is back!!! Eating up all my posts. Okay, so real quick here. I asked you if it was fair, business-like or respectful to judge people's motives and make accussations of them when they agreed to participate in a discussion. Isn't the adult thing to simply ask them to gain a better understanding?

databank said:

2elijah said:

With that being said, then I vote Alan to be moderator of the Associated Artists forum. Wouldn't be a bad idea to get a former P associate to be a moderator on this forum, especially if some are members here. He'd be a good contributor to this section and could knock out a lot of misinformation, based on his own experience as a former P band member.

[Edited 5/26/11 7:40am]

Ha ha, now THAT would be cool

PS: Alan Leeds wasn't a BAND member: that would be ERIC Leeds

Oops, thanks, shows you how little I know about former associates and band members, that's why we need one to mod this section to clarify these things... (I'll edit my previous post).

[Edited 5/26/11 8:32am]

sosgemini said:

sosgemini said:

OMG!!! The post monster is back!!! Eating up all my posts. Okay, so real quick here. I asked you if it was fair, business-like or respectful to judge people's motives and make accussations of them when they agreed to participate in a discussion. Isn't the adult thing to simply ask them to gain a better understanding?

Wasn't the adult thing to do not to present their nonsense in they way they attemped here in the first place?

But I'll tell you what. I do think it would be cool if Neil, Alan and the rest of the band did a question and answer session instead of what the attempted here. Maybe we can start over, from scratch on a new thread.

databank said:

djThunderfunk said:

Actually, he did, one of the engineers who worked on George's PP records was here on he org a couple years ago and confirmed Prince's involvement. But, I don't remember exactly what he said and the original posts were deleted.

But, that's besides the point. I agree with your assessment.

The engineer was Chronic Freeze and you remember correctly.

Prince contributed nothing on The Cinderella Theory but a few remixes on the Tweakin' maxi-single.

On the other hand, u are right, Prince DID overdub several tracks on Hey Man... Smell My Finger, and composed a song called My Pony, but absolutely none of it was kept on the record as it was released, save the song The Big Pump, which he co-wrote (and which, incidentally, is a TERRIBLE song on this otherwisely excellent album ).

Rumor says that all the outtakes/alternate takes from this album that circulate on bootlegs are the versions Prince contributed to, but I can't say if it's true or not (but this probably can be verified through Scififilmnerd's sessionography or Princevault.com.

I have no idea about the legal status of these unreleased songs and alternate takes, nor do I know if the original multi-tracks are at Paisley Park or in George Clinton's hands.

Yes, it was Chronic Freeze! Thank you for that.

He did confirm Prince plays on Hey Man, though. I specifically remember he confirmed Prince played some on Get Satisfied and a few others. I remember Get Satisfied because at the time it was confirmation for me as I just knew I could hear Prince on there.

I think I did screen grabs of the entire post knowing that it would soon be deleted. So far though, I haven't found where I backed it up.

Anybody else remember this?

V10LETBLUES said:

GaryMF said:

I am a busines person as well with top school MBA blah blah blah, and I totally disgarree with your opinion and assessment of this whole thread.

Alan and Neil have been nothing but straightforward providing facts and informative.

your interpretation is just that. and that's my opinion.i also think your tone towards Neil and Alan has been quite rude. Again my opinion.

I know you didn't get your degree in marketing, lol

Just kidding, I couldn't resist.

I keed i keed.

[Edited 5/26/11 8:13am]

Since you asked , my MBA is in Marketing but I will admit it's from Univ of Chicago which is known for finance. My BA is from Cornell in Psychology and I have worked in marketing for the last 20 years at Fortune 500 companies and ad agencies.

On a serious note, I honestly THINK (again just my opinion) Neil's was just trying to tell us--the fans--what was going on. I know I have been really annoyed for the last year as to why the band can't use their own name and now I feel like I have better understanding of what is going on

I don't think there were any ulterior motives involved whatsoever.

And in terms of PR or marketing, posting on the associated artist section of a Prince message board or even on the Fdeluxe Facebook page is not exactly what marketing experts would call an "efficient way to spread a message with effective reach or frequency". So your theory that it was to to create PR or grassroots marketing to stir up trouble does not make sense from a business perspective.

V10LETBLUES said:

sosgemini said:

OMG!!! The post monster is back!!! Eating up all my posts. Okay, so real quick here. I asked you if it was fair, business-like or respectful to judge people's motives and make accussations of them when they agreed to participate in a discussion. Isn't the adult thing to simply ask them to gain a better understanding?

Wasn't the adult thing to do not to present their nonsense in they way they attemped here in the first place?

But I'll tell you what. I do think it would be cool if Neil, Alan and the rest of the band did a question and answer session instead of what the attempted here. Maybe we can start over, from scratch on a new thread.

Now who is being passive aggressive?

sosgemini said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Wasn't the adult thing to do not to present their nonsense in they way they attemped here in the first place?

But I'll tell you what. I do think it would be cool if Neil, Alan and the rest of the band did a question and answer session instead of what the attempted here. Maybe we can start over, from scratch on a new thread.

Now who is being passive aggressive?

no no no, if they want to do this right. Just saying.

GaryMF said:

V10LETBLUES said:

I know you didn't get your degree in marketing, lol

Just kidding, I couldn't resist.

I keed i keed.

[Edited 5/26/11 8:13am]

Since you asked , my MBA is in Marketing but I will admit it's from Univ of Chicago which is known for finance. My BA is from Cornell in Psychology and I have worked in marketing for the last 20 years at Fortune 500 companies and ad agencies.

On a serious note, I honestly THINK (again just my opinion) Neil's was just trying to tell us--the fans--what was going on. I know I have been really annoyed for the last year as to why the band can't use their own name and now I feel like I have better understanding of what is going on

I don't think there were any ulterior motives involved whatsoever.

And in terms of PR or marketing, posting on the associated artist section of a Prince message board or even on the Fdeluxe Facebook page is not exactly what marketing experts would call an "efficient way to spread a message with effective reach or frequency". So your theory that it was to to create PR or grassroots marketing to stir up trouble does not make sense from a business perspective.

I disagree completely. This forum right here is what we call bulls-eye marketing. We are exactly the ones that are going to buy the album. Most likely the only ones.

This is where Prince fans come to find out news on future projects. If they did not start here would be foolish.

But what I will agree with you on is that how they went about it does not make business sense.

GaryMF said:

V10LETBLUES said:

I know you didn't get your degree in marketing, lol

Just kidding, I couldn't resist.

I keed i keed.

[Edited 5/26/11 8:13am]

Since you asked , my MBA is in Marketing but I will admit it's from Univ of Chicago which is known for finance. My BA is from Cornell in Psychology and I have worked in marketing for the last 20 years at Fortune 500 companies and ad agencies.

On a serious note, I honestly THINK (again just my opinion) Neil's was just trying to tell us--the fans--what was going on. I know I have been really annoyed for the last year as to why the band can't use their own name and now I feel like I have better understanding of what is going on

I don't think there were any ulterior motives involved whatsoever.

And in terms of PR or marketing, posting on the associated artist section of a Prince message board or even on the Fdeluxe Facebook page is not exactly what marketing experts would call an "efficient way to spread a message with effective reach or frequency". So your theory that it was to to create PR or grassroots marketing to stir up trouble does not make sense from a business perspective.

fDeluxe is going to have no trouble reaching the audience of people who would click on this thread. If there is any ulterior motive here, it might be to get Prince's attention. He won't return their phone calls but I think he secretly looks at the org threads from time to time.

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

The engineer was Chronic Freeze and you remember correctly.

Prince contributed nothing on The Cinderella Theory but a few remixes on the Tweakin' maxi-single.

On the other hand, u are right, Prince DID overdub several tracks on Hey Man... Smell My Finger, and composed a song called My Pony, but absolutely none of it was kept on the record as it was released, save the song The Big Pump, which he co-wrote (and which, incidentally, is a TERRIBLE song on this otherwisely excellent album ).

Rumor says that all the outtakes/alternate takes from this album that circulate on bootlegs are the versions Prince contributed to, but I can't say if it's true or not (but this probably can be verified through Scififilmnerd's sessionography or Princevault.com.

I have no idea about the legal status of these unreleased songs and alternate takes, nor do I know if the original multi-tracks are at Paisley Park or in George Clinton's hands.

Yes, it was Chronic Freeze! Thank you for that.

He did confirm Prince plays on Hey Man, though. I specifically remember he confirmed Prince played some on Get Satisfied and a few others. I remember Get Satisfied because at the time it was confirmation for me as I just knew I could hear Prince on there.

I think I did screen grabs of the entire post knowing that it would soon be deleted. So far though, I haven't found where I backed it up.

Anybody else remember this?

Yes, I've read this thread very carefully back then and IIRC, Chronic only confirmed what we already knew: Prince DID play on the unreleased versions of Get Satisfied and a few other songs that are on the album, and none these versions made the final cut.

Check for yourself here: http://princevault.com/in..._My_Finger

And here: https://sites.google.com/...raphy/1993

[Edited 5/26/11 9:59am]

electricberet said:

GaryMF said:

Since you asked , my MBA is in Marketing but I will admit it's from Univ of Chicago which is known for finance. My BA is from Cornell in Psychology and I have worked in marketing for the last 20 years at Fortune 500 companies and ad agencies.

On a serious note, I honestly THINK (again just my opinion) Neil's was just trying to tell us--the fans--what was going on. I know I have been really annoyed for the last year as to why the band can't use their own name and now I feel like I have better understanding of what is going on

I don't think there were any ulterior motives involved whatsoever.

And in terms of PR or marketing, posting on the associated artist section of a Prince message board or even on the Fdeluxe Facebook page is not exactly what marketing experts would call an "efficient way to spread a message with effective reach or frequency". So your theory that it was to to create PR or grassroots marketing to stir up trouble does not make sense from a business perspective.

fDeluxe is going to have no trouble reaching the audience of people who would click on this thread. If there is any ulterior motive here, it might be to get Prince's attention. He won't return their phone calls but I think he secretly looks at the org threads from time to time.

Hi Prince

V10LETBLUES said:

GaryMF said:

Since you asked , my MBA is in Marketing but I will admit it's from Univ of Chicago which is known for finance. My BA is from Cornell in Psychology and I have worked in marketing for the last 20 years at Fortune 500 companies and ad agencies.

On a serious note, I honestly THINK (again just my opinion) Neil's was just trying to tell us--the fans--what was going on. I know I have been really annoyed for the last year as to why the band can't use their own name and now I feel like I have better understanding of what is going on

I don't think there were any ulterior motives involved whatsoever.

And in terms of PR or marketing, posting on the associated artist section of a Prince message board or even on the Fdeluxe Facebook page is not exactly what marketing experts would call an "efficient way to spread a message with effective reach or frequency". So your theory that it was to to create PR or grassroots marketing to stir up trouble does not make sense from a business perspective.

I disagree completely. This forum right here is what we call bulls-eye marketing. We are exactly the ones that are going to buy the album. Most likely the only ones.

This is where Prince fans come to find out news on future projects. If they did not start here would be foolish.

But what I will agree with you on is that how they went about it does not make business sense.

Maybe we can make this a case study for Music Marketing (NOT!)....

But as you say above, "we are the ones going to buy the album". I would posit that all the people reading this thread are were already planning to buy the album months ago. There is no need really to market or "PR Spin" as you put it to us. We are are guaranteed revenue. If anything, doing a "PR SPIN" or having some ulterior motive would only risk alienating all of us who are already guaranteed sales.

I would also bet that a huge % of people who read this thread (if not everyone) and who visit this forum period, are already Facebook fans of Fdeluxe. So again, posting here is already "preaching to the choir" so to speak.

Goes back to my original contention that Neil was just trying to let those of us who care about the band and are already eagerly awaiting the album know what'gs going on.

If a manager wanted to "stir the pot" or create drama there are many other PR strategies he or she could follow. Posting to a bunch of die-hard fans who already are devoted to the band would not be the way to go.