7souls said:

kgarcia863 said:

he asked ME a question AW, so I replied... I also wanted to apologize to him. ..Is that good enough for you? Plus, I said closed doors..read thoroughly next time!

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Ok, if you want to take it there, I can do this...he asked if you think that little of yourself. Is that the question you replied to?

You apologized. Awww, good for you. Maybe you shouldn't be an ass in the first place to people that are volunteering info that others found helpful, and that you had an option of reading or not.

"I am just not interested in what should go on behind closed doors between the interested parties." Did you in all your infinite wisdom decide what should go on behind closed doors and what he is allowed to say? Read your posts thoroughly next time. In your first post you made the judgment call that Alan came "on the org and disclose that private & confidential information to US." Maybe since he is directly involved and you aren't, he might have a better clue as to what exactly is private and confidential.

If you want a "resolution that is not made so public", here's an idea...don't click on any threads in the first place that have anything to do with this topic. That way you won't have to be offended at whatever the resolution is.

Now come on back after you read thoroughly thru your own posts.

I didn't ask for your input in the first place. Alan replied, I replied back, then you put your two cents worth in.. I apologized for coming across as malicious & rude, however you continue to stir things up. Ok...thanks for your two cents! I took the post the wrong way, and I apologized.. I do not need you to continue to egg things on.. I never said I was offended, so please do not put words in my mouth or try to characterize me. I am not going to waste anymore negative energy with you. I hope that Alan read & accepted my apology.

ALANL said:

All interesting topics and smart questions. Unfortunately, as a former executive of Paisley Park Records there are a lot of aspects of these issues that I respectfully cannot discuss. It should also be noted that a lot of what transpired so many years ago simply isn't locked to my memory. So it would be irresponsible to speculate on the things I don't feel confident about factually. But fairness and fact freak that I am, I'll try to sort thru what I can within those boundaries.

Before the end of 1988, there was no one specifically charged with the day-to-day responsibilities of running Paisley Park Records. Instead, things were variously tended to by whatever management personnel was available and willing. Needless-to-say, a lot of clerical matters fell between the cracks. In January, 1989, Prince suddenly changed his entire management, financial and legal crews. The transitions to the new teams further complicated matters because the newbies had no previous knowledge about the structure of Prince's businesses or the players. It was then that I put together a team to run the label on a steady basis and I became a liason of sorts between the label and Warners in hopes of kindling some increased enthusiasm and support for Paisley projects. I'd like to think that the clerical aspects of running that business also then became more consistent and complete.

At that time, some artists were signed through Warners but those signed after late, 1988, were signed directly to Paisley. The joint venture between Paisley and Warners allowed for the records of those artists signed directly to Paisley or any that may have been signed to Prince's production company, to revert from Warners back to Paisley after a certain amount of time - a not uncommon arrangement in joint ventures. Conversly, Prince was always signed directly to Warner Brothers. At some point there was an agreement made that his records could be released with the Paisley Park logo on them to help boost the visibility and credibility of his label but he was never technically a Paisley Park artist himself. Thus his masters remain the property of Warner Brothers based on all the recording agreements he had with them.

I have no first hand knowledge and don't feel qualified to comment on his situation with Morris day and The Time. Of course their original contract was with Warners, having pre-dated the formation of the Paisley Park label.

A lot is speculated about Prince's motives for what he does and while I may have a personal opinion like anyone else, it's one thing to discuss the results of his (or anyone's actions), but I do believe it's dangerous and unfair to second guess one's motives - simply because none of us really know what's inside someone driving them to do what they do.

I'm not at liberty to discuss the status of any on-going contractual issues but I can say, in general, that unless an artists' original contract with Paisley specifically prohibits reissues, Prince should be in the position to re-issue, re-compile, re-master, just about do anything he wants to do with the material that was recorded for Paisley Park by artists signed directly to that label - in other words, any masters that Paisley Park owns.

As an aside, as someone with a lot of experience dealing with compilations and reissues, I have long believed that a properly packaged compilation of prime Paisley Park material, with a bit of bonus (previously unissued and/or "live" material) would make for a fabulous box set of a couple or three CDs. I assume Prince should be free to issue such a project either independently or with whatever label or distributor he chose to do business with. From a purely mercinary standpoint, it's "found money" for Prince and a boost to his legacy as a writer/producer. But I won't hold my breath. C'est la vie.

As for masters he produced for outside artists and labels, such as those you mention - SUGAR WALLS and MANIC MONDAY: I can only assume that those masters belong to the labels they were produced for, pursuant to the terms of the agreements between those labels and the artists who recorded the songs. It's highly unlikely that as an outside producer for those, and other such projects, Prince would have any authority whatsoever over those recordings and how they are issued.

Trademarking band names is something that a band and their managament should tend to early on. Theoretically, a recording label would want to know that a new band they were signing already could prove ownership of their name. Otherwise a label might invest in a band and risk ending up in an undesireable legal situation. Of course a savvy label that recognizes an artist failed to do so, would want to protect their investment by trying to register it themselves. In the early "mom and Pop" days of rock and roll, labels often owned groups names which eventually accounted for so many different personnels in popular groups like the Temptations, the Coasters and the Drifters. As artists and managers became more sophisticated, they realized the value in owning their own name and these days I would assume it's very uncommon for a label to beat a band to registering their Trademark.

As for the music on Paisley Park Records: obviously Prince rightly owns the copyright to any Prince composition. As for songs written by others that appeared on Paisley albums, in many cases Prince's companies may own or co-own the publishing rights to those songs according to whatever agreements were signed at the time between the composers and the companies.

However, as a general rule of thumb, ANY song that has been previously recorded and copywritten is available for any artist to record, cover, perform or whatever as long as they pay the proper licensing - writers and publishing - to the appropriate parties. In plain language, as long as the proper licenses and payments are honored, fDeluxe, or the Time, are free to record and/or perform any song they wish to...even songs that Prince wrote and owns.

Hope this helps clear up at least a few lingering issues.

First, let me thank you Alan, for taking the time to come here and discuss this. You are truly one of the best!

Thanks especially for clearing up the issue regarding Prince not acutally being on Paisley, and how that differs from other Paisley artists. This explains a lot. I don't think I've ever seen that explained anywhere else.

As to your idea for a Paisley retrospective.. Every Prince fan would buy it!! It's long been a dream of mine. I even dreamed up a name for it, 1-800-OLD-FUNK.

IF such a compilation ever happens, I vote that you get a hand in bringing it to us. I would trust you over Prince for track selection and for accuracy and detail in the liner notes.

Thanks again for joining the discussion, I hope to read your perspective often!

databank said:

Another interesting issue will be the future of The Cinderella Theory and Hey... Man Smell My Finger: George Clinton fought hard to get back as much of his 70's material as possible, and either him or his estate might one day claim the rights to the Capitol and Paisley Park albums. What will Prince do?

A similar situation might occur with Come 2 My House. Chaka Khan recently said that she's trying to get her material back from WB because she wants her vault material to be released and her back catalogue properly handled. If she succeeds and launches a series of remastered reissues, she might want to include NPG Records' owned Come 2 My House.

Prince best not be messin' with George!

Seriously, though, I seem to remember in one of the interview Prince, Chaka & Larry gave, it being mentioned that she could do whatever she wanted with the album in the future, that it was hers, period.

Maybe someone here with a better memory (or the time to search through old interviews) could clarify?

ButterscotchPimp said:

Wow. I've been around this place for a long time now, and the fact that both Alan and Neil came in here to set the record straight is nothing short of amazing, and much appreciated.

Ahem. What wasn't so impressive? The treatment by some of the Orgers. Of course i'm not the least bit surprised that it happened, but it would have been nice if some folks could just put their internet egos aside and be respectful.

To Alan and Neil, a huge hearty thank you and I hope that you guys whenever you find a topic worth discussing that you please come back and drop some more knowledge on us.

To the Org, eh who am i kidding this place isn't changing anytime soon why waste my breath. Big ups to the old heads.

djThunderfunk said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

Wow. I've been around this place for a long time now, and the fact that both Alan and Neil came in here to set the record straight is nothing short of amazing, and much appreciated.

Ahem. What wasn't so impressive? The treatment by some of the Orgers. Of course i'm not the least bit surprised that it happened, but it would have been nice if some folks could just put their internet egos aside and be respectful.

To Alan and Neil, a huge hearty thank you and I hope that you guys whenever you find a topic worth discussing that you please come back and drop some more knowledge on us.

To the Org, eh who am i kidding this place isn't changing anytime soon why waste my breath. Big ups to the old heads.

Some people here obviously need a shrink more than an account on this forum. The lack of respect towards Neil and Alan, the language that's been used, the hasty conclusions over their motives to come here talk to us... Waaay too many trolls around here if you ask me

This is just a pity and the consequence is that many professionals and ex-Prince collaborators are reluctant to come here and share their knowledge with us.

databank said:

djThunderfunk said:

Some people here obviously need a shrink more than an account on this forum. The lack of respect towards Neil and Alan, the language that's been used, the hasty conclusions over their motives to come here talk to us... Waaay too many trolls around here if you ask me

This is just a pity and the consequence is that many professionals and ex-Prince collaborators are reluctant to come here and share their knowledge with us.

Lack of respect in general.

databank said:

djThunderfunk said:

Some people here obviously need a shrink more than an account on this forum. The lack of respect towards Neil and Alan, the language that's been used, the hasty conclusions over their motives to come here talk to us... Waaay too many trolls around here if you ask me

This is just a pity and the consequence is that many professionals and ex-Prince collaborators are reluctant to come here and share their knowledge with us.

Hell, many Prince FANS are reluctant to come here for the same reasons... Pity!

Thank you Alan and Neil for updating us on all of this. The reason that many of us come here is to find out the inside information regarding Prince, and you have both come through on this. Alan, you've been amazing when it comes to the fans. You've helped us many times on UPTOWN and in Per Nilsen's books as well as Alex Hahn's book POSSESSED. You wrote the liner notes for Prince's 3 CD best of set and you've always been someone we can rely on for the straight scoop.

I hope you continue to keep us informed because there are those of us who want to know more than we can learn by simply listening to the music.

V10LETBLUES said:

This is all just passive aggressive BS

who starts a thread like this? and Why?

Statement from Square One Entertainment regarding fDeluxe

First it stats with trite niceties about his brother and praise then

Furthermore, there are "right to work" laws that protect one's ability to earn a living doing what they do. Attempts to interfere cannot be tolerated.

I can't imagine anything plainer than that. So Neil is right. The conversation, with all due respect, should be over.

So instead of all the crap if these two clowns simply came on this fansite and just said in one clear sentence without all the passive aggressive nonsense and simply stated their gripes. I would be cool with it.

I have no problem with the band or they recording another album, it's about the way these two clowns have gone about it. Whenever I hear this type of passive aggressive nonsense fed to the lambs here it just rubs me the wrong way. As you can probably tell.

[Edited 5/25/11 5:47am]

ok- I understand your issues with passive aggressive, but wouldn't that automatically make you less likely to pay attention to Prince on a regular basis. It's sort of his MO. I'm not trying to be funny here. You state THAT is what bugs you- and anyone with a modicum of knowledge about Prince knows he pretty much operates from this place.

GaryMF said:

V10LETBLUES said:

This is all just passive aggressive BS

So instead of all the crap if these [Name calling snip - luv4u] simply came on this fansite and just said in one clear sentence without all the passive aggressive nonsense and simply stated their gripes. I would be cool with it.

I don't think you know what "passive aggressive" means, because Alan has been anything but; he posted very clearly and direclty on here, direclty answering questions posted.

For you to start name calling (e.g. [Snip - luv4u]) is extremely disrespectful, ungrateful, and just plain wrong.

It's been reported.

madhouseman said:

Thank you Alan and Neil for updating us on all of this. The reason that many of us come here is to find out the inside information regarding Prince, and you have both come through on this. Alan, you've been amazing when it comes to the fans. You've helped us many times on UPTOWN and in Per Nilsen's books as well as Alex Hahn's book POSSESSED. You wrote the liner notes for Prince's 3 CD best of set and you've always been someone we can rely on for the straight scoop.

I hope you continue to keep us informed because there are those of us who want to know more than we can learn by simply listening to the music.

Co-sign.

V10LETBLUES said:

I would have had a lot more respect for Alan, but mostly Eric himself. If Eric came here himself to plug this album/get the name back, instead of sending big bro coming on this fan-site to air his gripes about the name.

I am not defending Prince and his craziness, just the cheesiness of Alan coming to a fansite, whether he was coaxed by the members of the band or his brother himself, because of his supposed stature and the weight his statements would pull in relation to the other band members. I understand that the music biz is in dire straights and everybody needs to make a buck but.....

We here all know that Prince was for all intents and purposes WAS The Family and only prompt his girlfriend and remnants of the band members to fore as this group, I just find it sad and unseemly for the characters to go on and on about this, like they could stoop no lower to cling whatever their manufactured claim to fame was.

[Edited 5/25/11 4:39am]

Ahh...once again, the danger of someone behaving as if he or she actually knows the people he is talking about. Lol, anyone who knows me - or Eric - would never suspect someone of coaxing me to do anything. For better or worse (probably some of both, ha ha), if there's a coaxer in the bunch it's usually me.

As for Prince / Family. What we all know is that Prince was the first Family album. Anyone who thinks that the actual band members have nothing of their own worth hearing simply hasn;t heard them or know anything about their collective talents and credentials. If someone wished to, there might even be a legit theory posed that Prince could have been holding them back!

As I've said before, everyone is entitled to opinions, no one is entitled to manufacture facts.

ALANL said:

V10LETBLUES said:

I would have had a lot more respect for Alan, but mostly Eric himself. If Eric came here himself to plug this album/get the name back, instead of sending big bro coming on this fan-site to air his gripes about the name.

I am not defending Prince and his craziness, just the cheesiness of Alan coming to a fansite, whether he was coaxed by the members of the band or his brother himself, because of his supposed stature and the weight his statements would pull in relation to the other band members. I understand that the music biz is in dire straights and everybody needs to make a buck but.....

We here all know that Prince was for all intents and purposes WAS The Family and only prompt his girlfriend and remnants of the band members to fore as this group, I just find it sad and unseemly for the characters to go on and on about this, like they could stoop no lower to cling whatever their manufactured claim to fame was.

[Edited 5/25/11 4:39am]

Ahh...once again, the danger of someone behaving as if he or she actually knows the people he is talking about. Lol, anyone who knows me - or Eric - would never suspect someone of coaxing me to do anything. For better or worse (probably some of both, ha ha), if there's a coaxer in the bunch it's usually me.

As for Prince / Family. What we all know is that Prince was the first Family album. Anyone who thinks that the actual band members have nothing of their own worth hearing simply hasn;t heard them or know anything about their collective talents and credentials. If someone wished to, there might even be a legit theory posed that Prince could have been holding them back!

As I've said before, everyone is entitled to opinions, no one is entitled to manufacture facts.

As an aside, why isn't Jerome pulling double duty with Bean to be in fDeluxe?

V10LETBLUES said:

Adisa said:

Did YOU directly orgnote Neil and Alan with your concern over their posts? And for someone who claims they are not trying to defend prince and his craziness you have sure done a good job of it, passively of course, by insulting Neil, Alan, and The Family.

No they posted here for whatever PR purposes. It is only appropriate to respond here, in the forum where they initially fed their views.

I'm not sure exactly what "P.R." agenda is served by any of this dialogue among a narrow group of fans. Is it too difficult to recognize that even those IN the music business, and certainly professional performers, were all inspired by their own passion and love of the music and those who make it? Why is it so difficult to accept that we're just music lovers too and can get just as intrigued by the issues fans discuss as you - particularly when the lack of facts direct people to the wrong conclusions. I've said it earlier, I am a fact and fairness freak. So when I spot falsehoods and unfairness my blood boils and I run my mouth. Doesn;t sound much different than a lot of other people on here. And so it goes.

ALANL said:

V10LETBLUES said:

No they posted here for whatever PR purposes. It is only appropriate to respond here, in the forum where they initially fed their views.

I'm not sure exactly what "P.R." agenda is served by any of this dialogue among a narrow group of fans. Is it too difficult to recognize that even those IN the music business, and certainly professional performers, were all inspired by their own passion and love of the music and those who make it? Why is it so difficult to accept that we're just music lovers too and can get just as intrigued by the issues fans discuss as you - particularly when the lack of facts direct people to the wrong conclusions. I've said it earlier, I am a fact and fairness freak. So when I spot falsehoods and unfairness my blood boils and I run my mouth. Doesn;t sound much different than a lot of other people on here. And so it goes.

Regarding falsehoods, can you tell us whether this:

http://twitter.com/#!/Prince_Live

is total garbage, or does the person posting there actually know something about an upcoming SOTT remaster? (Sorry for the off topic question, but while we have you here...)

I just posted a variation of this on a Jill Jones thread, but I thought it was worth repeating here:

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It seems that the org is great for biting the hands that want to feed us information. People like Jill, Robin Power, Alan and Eric Leeds and many others were there and can offer us insights into how the man thinks and behaves. Personally, I love that sort of thing and it is what makes Prince fans so amazing is that we are able to dig up some excellent information, but with these people comes a certain responsibility.

I am not telling anyone how to think, but I caution the org to not rip every associate to shreds regarding their time with Prince. You may not agree with everything they say, you may disagree with their opinions, etc. but if we keep snapping at people who are opening up their book to share with us, fewer and fewer associates are going to start doing that and our information will run dry.

Jill has an amazing voice, a great background and really cool insights into Prince's history. Eric was with Prince for well over a decade and Alan oversaw much of Paisley Park's workings. We are fortunate to have them sharing their insights. It would be really easy for them to sit back and not take an interest in setting the record straight, etc. but they've chosen to spend their time on here and that deserves a little bit of civility. Personally, I enjoy hearing about what it was like to record with him, what helped him with his decisions, how songs were chosen or shelved and what certain lyrics mean. I guess the way I am seeing it is that we have a choice... we can allow those who were actually involved in the process to have an opinion that is different than ours and accept that sometimes we aren't going to agree with the information we get OR we can shout these people into silence and just throw our own opinions back and forth without any new insights being brought to the table by those who were there.

I love the back and forth about the opinions we have, but at the same time, I really enjoy that the org brings us people like Alan, Neil, Michael B., etc. who want to share with fans.

I know that there are several associates who didn't like the vibe here and stopped coming by. I hope we don't chase all of these people off.

I think the angry hand-biters here are a small minority. They just post more frequently.

Some of this angst could be avoided if we had an official source of Prince-related news. I am thinking about writing a letter to P.O. Box 4475, North Hollywood, CA 91607. My copy of Dirty Mind says that Prince can be contacted there.

madhouseman said:

I just posted a variation of this on a Jill Jones thread, but I thought it was worth repeating here:

---

It seems that the org is great for biting the hands that want to feed us information. People like Jill, Robin Power, Alan and Eric Leeds and many others were there and can offer us insights into how the man thinks and behaves. Personally, I love that sort of thing and it is what makes Prince fans so amazing is that we are able to dig up some excellent information, but with these people comes a certain responsibility.

I am not telling anyone how to think, but I caution the org to not rip every associate to shreds regarding their time with Prince. You may not agree with everything they say, you may disagree with their opinions, etc. but if we keep snapping at people who are opening up their book to share with us, fewer and fewer associates are going to start doing that and our information will run dry.

Jill has an amazing voice, a great background and really cool insights into Prince's history. Eric was with Prince for well over a decade and Alan oversaw much of Paisley Park's workings. We are fortunate to have them sharing their insights. It would be really easy for them to sit back and not take an interest in setting the record straight, etc. but they've chosen to spend their time on here and that deserves a little bit of civility. Personally, I enjoy hearing about what it was like to record with him, what helped him with his decisions, how songs were chosen or shelved and what certain lyrics mean. I guess the way I am seeing it is that we have a choice... we can allow those who were actually involved in the process to have an opinion that is different than ours and accept that sometimes we aren't going to agree with the information we get OR we can shout these people into silence and just throw our own opinions back and forth without any new insights being brought to the table by those who were there.

I love the back and forth about the opinions we have, but at the same time, I really enjoy that the org brings us people like Alan, Neil, Michael B., etc. who want to share with fans.

I know that there are several associates who didn't like the vibe here and stopped coming by. I hope we don't chase all of these people off.

how about you bounce into an old job you had, ... and say i helped create abcdwidget. 'i think you should let me name MY product abcdwidget.'

good luck with that.

madhouseman said:

It seems that the org is great for biting the hands that want to feed us information. People like Jill, Robin Power, Alan and Eric Leeds and many others were there and can offer us insights into how the man thinks and behaves.

In all fairness, she's not mentally stable.

Spinlight said:

madhouseman said:

It seems that the org is great for biting the hands that want to feed us information. People like Jill, Robin Power, Alan and Eric Leeds and many others were there and can offer us insights into how the man thinks and behaves.

In all fairness, she's not mentally stable.

Come on man, she's a guest in our house. Are these the sorts of things that people would say to someone's face or is it just because of the anonymity that we have? I've dealt with Robin and she seems like a lot of fun and a good sport.

madhouseman said:

Spinlight said:

In all fairness, she's not mentally stable.

Come on man, she's a guest in our house. Are these the sorts of things that people would say to someone's face or is it just because of the anonymity that we have? I've dealt with Robin and she seems like a lot of fun and a good sport.

Agreed. Or at least be a lil more tactful with your approach.

I was positively surprised when I found the comments of Alan Leeds posted at the org. And I was shocked to see some of the reactions to those comments.

I have only one further thing to say:

RESPECT to Alan.

The orgers should be happy and proud to see him posting here.

cateto said:

I was positively surprised when I found the comments of Alan Leeds posted at the org. And I was shocked to see some of the reactions to those comments.

I have only one further thing to say:

RESPECT to Alan.

The orgers should be happy and proud to see him posting here.

agreed!

sosgemini said:

madhouseman said:

Come on man, she's a guest in our house. Are these the sorts of things that people would say to someone's face or is it just because of the anonymity that we have? I've dealt with Robin and she seems like a lot of fun and a good sport.

Agreed. Or at least be a lil more tactful with your approach.

I'm not tactless.

All in all we are all on the outside looking in. Prince is entitled to handle business how he sees fit. We can't always judge him by what we hear from others. I am a fan of St. Paul and the crew, but The Family's album did not sell very well so I cannot imagine how much in royalties they think they are owed. But in all truth whether the business was handled right or not...just having been associated with Prince has been a valuable tool for them. The same goes for many others. There is so much negativity towards Prince on a website that is supposed to dedicated to him that I had to offer another side. But how cool would it be if Prince did a tour for the fans with: The Time (all original members), Sheila E, and The Family as opening acts. He could rotate his band to include NPG and the Revolution. Sorry, I slipped into a dream.

ALANL said:

V10LETBLUES said:

No they posted here for whatever PR purposes. It is only appropriate to respond here, in the forum where they initially fed their views.

I'm not sure exactly what "P.R." agenda is served by any of this dialogue among a narrow group of fans. Is it too difficult to recognize that even those IN the music business, and certainly professional performers, were all inspired by their own passion and love of the music and those who make it? Why is it so difficult to accept that we're just music lovers too and can get just as intrigued by the issues fans discuss as you - particularly when the lack of facts direct people to the wrong conclusions. I've said it earlier, I am a fact and fairness freak. So when I spot falsehoods and unfairness my blood boils and I run my mouth. Doesn;t sound much different than a lot of other people on here. And so it goes.

Look Alan I do not respond to many people on this board. I only respond to folks who I think should know better. And yes, my blood boiled when I read the statement from Square One. I Know you are not the poster or responsible for his words, but can you seriously re-read that and tell me why it was written the way it was? It really serves no purpose on a fan site. What was the reason for it to be posted other than for PR purposes? And for you to follow up and chime in and co-sign?

Both of you together joined in a passive aggressive diatribe here is what irks me. Not really as discussion. We do not know your motives, other than to take you at your work that it is only for the love of music. We both know Prince and his camp will not respond here or anywhere else, so I just took as cheap shots. Passive aggressive cheap shots.

No I do not know the ins and out of your little spat, but the way you are going about it is what I find troublesome and unseemly. I am here on this forum because of my love of the music, your soap opera not so much. But I will have to disagree that your presence here in this instance is just about the love and passion of music, but more related to base business/money matters. As talented as your brother is, I love what he added to the music, I think you are going about this all wrong.

[Edited 5/25/11 20:27pm]

i do know shelby j. is aware of these threads on here and reading them.

V10LETBLUES said:

ALANL said:

I'm not sure exactly what "P.R." agenda is served by any of this dialogue among a narrow group of fans. Is it too difficult to recognize that even those IN the music business, and certainly professional performers, were all inspired by their own passion and love of the music and those who make it? Why is it so difficult to accept that we're just music lovers too and can get just as intrigued by the issues fans discuss as you - particularly when the lack of facts direct people to the wrong conclusions. I've said it earlier, I am a fact and fairness freak. So when I spot falsehoods and unfairness my blood boils and I run my mouth. Doesn;t sound much different than a lot of other people on here. And so it goes.

Look Alan I do not respond to many people on this board. I only respond to folks who I think should know better. And yes, my blood boiled when I read the statement from Square One. I Know you are not the poster or responsible for his words, but can you seriously re-read that and tell me why it was written the way it was? It really serves no purpose on a fan site. What was the reason for it to be posted other than for PR purposes? And for you to follow up and chime in and co-sign?

Both of you together joined in a passive aggressive diatribe here is what irks me. Not really as discussion. We do not know your motives, other than to take you at your work that it is only for the love of music. We both know Prince and his camp will not respond here or anywhere else, so I just took as cheap shots. Passive aggressive cheap shots.

No I do not know the ins and out of your little spat, but the way you are going about it is what I find troublesome and unseemly. I am here on this forum because of my love of the music, your soap opera not so much. But I will have to disagree that your presence here in this instance is just about the love and passion of music, but more related to base business/money matters. As talented as your brother is, I love what he added to the music, I think you are going about this all wrong.

[Edited 5/25/11 20:27pm]

Your BLOOD BOILED? That's kinda sad.....

if you're not INTO this kind of "soap opera" why participate so much and get so worked up about it. Let it go and go do something else. You really can't "prove"anything here and you just end up looking like someone trying to defend the position of someone you know personally- when in fact you don't. What is your motive to get your panties in such a twist?

Zannaloaf said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Look Alan I do not respond to many people on this board. I only respond to folks who I think should know better. And yes, my blood boiled when I read the statement from Square One. I Know you are not the poster or responsible for his words, but can you seriously re-read that and tell me why it was written the way it was? It really serves no purpose on a fan site. What was the reason for it to be posted other than for PR purposes? And for you to follow up and chime in and co-sign?

Both of you together joined in a passive aggressive diatribe here is what irks me. Not really as discussion. We do not know your motives, other than to take you at your work that it is only for the love of music. We both know Prince and his camp will not respond here or anywhere else, so I just took as cheap shots. Passive aggressive cheap shots.

No I do not know the ins and out of your little spat, but the way you are going about it is what I find troublesome and unseemly. I am here on this forum because of my love of the music, your soap opera not so much. But I will have to disagree that your presence here in this instance is just about the love and passion of music, but more related to base business/money matters. As talented as your brother is, I love what he added to the music, I think you are going about this all wrong.

[Edited 5/25/11 20:27pm]

Your BLOOD BOILED? That's kinda sad.....

if you're not INTO this kind of "soap opera" why participate so much and get so worked up about it. Let it go and go do something else. You really can't "prove"anything here and you just end up looking like someone trying to defend the position of someone you know personally- when in fact you don't. What is your motive to get your panties in such a twist?

Sleazy statements like the initial post by Square One make my blood boil yes, by people who should know better. Sad? maybe. Take it however you want.

And I was just repeating Alan's own wording for effect, so keep grasping for straws.

[Edited 5/25/11 23:12pm]