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Thread started 09/15/16 8:22am

hollywooddove

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Do you still enjoy coming to the org?

To say the least, things aren't the same. Coming to org, maybe for reasons in me I don't understand yet, just isn't the kick it used to be. I don't think it's grief, I think it is more of a general feeling of, what's the use?

This forum has been kind and welcoming to me, and for that I am appreciative. There are my faves I love to troll here. But there is nothing to look forward to, and Prince always gave us something to anticipate. Perhaps, if the vault is cracked and begins to leak, I will feel differently.

We are all so full of doody here
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Reply #1 posted 09/15/16 8:31am

Militant

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Right now it's a little weird to me - and I'll say this openly - to sometimes see entire discussions being dominated by people who signed up AFTER April 21st.

I understand that's it's par for the course, and I think a lot of these people will likely move on over time. But prior to April 21st, the community felt very tight and safe, and his passing has hit us like an atom bomb and scattered our sense of self as long term fans.

I'm absolutely not saying that there's not a place for new fans - there is and always will be. But prior to his passing, anyone who had been here for a few years, we were here when what he was doing wasn't newsworthy, when the public weren't checking for him, when he really needed us to be there.

And I could relate to damn near everyone. Because I can relate to anyone that at some point discovered Prince's music and fell in love - that's all of our stories.

What I can't relate to is people that only decided to become fans because he died and his death was mysterious and in the news all the time - and then they come here and barely talk about his music but only about his passing. I just..... I don't get that. The music is not secondary to anything. If that's your perspective then you missed his entire message.

It's different. Prince kept us on our toes in more ways than one! But the org will always be home.

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Reply #2 posted 09/15/16 8:36am

Genesia

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Not as much as I did. There's no future - no sense of "what will he do next"?

A lot of stuff got rehashed before he was gone, of course - but now that's all there is. We're all just chasing our tails. There will be nothing new.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #3 posted 09/15/16 8:36am

loveandkindnes
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Militant said:

Right now it's a little weird to me - and I'll say this openly - to sometimes see entire discussions being dominated by people who signed up AFTER April 21st.

I understand that's it's par for the course, and I think a lot of these people will likely move on over time. But prior to April 21st, the community felt very tight and safe, and his passing has hit us like an atom bomb and scattered our sense of self as long term fans.

I'm absolutely not saying that there's not a place for new fans - there is and always will be. But prior to his passing, anyone who had been here for a few years, we were here when what he was doing wasn't newsworthy, when the public weren't checking for him, when he really needed us to be there.



And I could relate to damn near everyone. Because I can relate to anyone that at some point discovered Prince's music and fell in love - that's all of our stories.



What I can't relate to is people that only decided to become fans because he died and his death was mysterious and in the news all the time - and then they come here and barely talk about his music but only about his passing. I just..... I don't get that. The music is not secondary to anything. If that's your perspective then you missed his entire message.

It's different. Prince kept us on our toes in more ways than one! But the org will always be home.

Loveandkindness
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Reply #4 posted 09/15/16 8:41am

Superfan1984

With all due respect to young people, at times it seems like a daycare center around here with the silly threads..... but I still check in...

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Reply #5 posted 09/15/16 8:43am

loveandkindnes
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loveandkindness said:

Militant said:

Right now it's a little weird to me - and I'll say this openly - to sometimes see entire discussions being dominated by people who signed up AFTER April 21st.

I understand that's it's par for the course, and I think a lot of these people will likely move on over time. But prior to April 21st, the community felt very tight and safe, and his passing has hit us like an atom bomb and scattered our sense of self as long term fans.

I'm absolutely not saying that there's not a place for new fans - there is and always will be. But prior to his passing, anyone who had been here for a few years, we were here when what he was doing wasn't newsworthy, when the public weren't checking for him, when he really needed us to be there.



And I could relate to damn near everyone. Because I can relate to anyone that at some point discovered Prince's music and fell in love - that's all of our stories.



What I can't relate to is people that only decided to become fans because he died and his death was mysterious and in the news all the time - and then they come here and barely talk about his music but only about his passing. I just..... I don't get that. The music is not secondary to anything. If that's your perspective then you missed his entire message.

It's different. Prince kept us on our toes in more ways than one! But the org will always be home.


Options...feelings....for me after npg shut down I did not post I did sign up on April 22 to share my feelings ....and always listen for new artists as Prince always told us music is life....much love 2 u ....first Prince album I bought was Prince ...his second one got it day 2 And played it ragged lol I still have skips where I wound get up and dAnce.....so I believe people join for different reasons...different pokes for different folks.....
Loveandkindness
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Reply #6 posted 09/15/16 8:50am

NinaB

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Militant said:

What I can't relate to is people that only decided to become fans because he died and his death was mysterious and in the news all the time - and then they come here and barely talk about his music but only about his passing. I just..... I don't get that.



I don't either.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #7 posted 09/15/16 8:52am

bonatoc

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I dunno, there are still so many songs to talk about/dissect/controverse/perverse.

But the UI is getting old. How aboot a reboot?
I can help, just PM me.

We need a Hall Of Fame for threads.
The one on the Graffiti Bridge stills, all of OldFriends4Sale eras sagas...
I know they're here, but their visibility is cluttered.

I would also suggest splitting "Music" and "More", to avoid
some noodle incidents.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #8 posted 09/15/16 8:54am

NinaB

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Genesia said:

Not as much as I did. There's no future - no sense of "what will he do next"?

A lot of stuff got rehashed before he was gone, of course - but now that's all there is. We're all just chasing our tails. There will be nothing new.


sad
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #9 posted 09/15/16 8:57am

Mintchip

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There's definitely more bullshit now.

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I still come to check for new releases, or leaks. I come to research old threads; almost every question you could ask has a bunch of threads already answering it. I enjoy that.

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I don't enjoy the wisdom teeth threads, and the fever-swamp of any thread that touches on his death. The elite trader mentality bothers me more, now.

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Since his death, I think the community has splintered in their need for answers. So to one group, Vanity is the love of his life. To another, Prince was murdered. It's all bullshit, unknowable, passed off as fact, because that's what people need.

.

So it's mixed. The old threads are fun, though. I wonder what happened to people like Boris, or Spinlight, who used to be so good at talking music, and cutting through bullshit.

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Reply #10 posted 09/15/16 8:58am

2020

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Yes of course! Its the only place to go after all these years and to commiserate with like minded peeps. Yes there are a ton of newbies on the site now and some of the irritating regulars are now gone. At least we have something new to talk about with all the recent "leaks" and if things go as planned we should have much to discuss moving forward. Long Live the Org!!!! wink

The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
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Reply #11 posted 09/15/16 9:09am

Wlcm2thdwn3

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Not as much, There's nothing to look forward to anymore. confused

It's like a fire replaced all the love. I've been burning....
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Reply #12 posted 09/15/16 9:11am

feeluupp

I really hate the stupid threads made either by the new fans or the middle aged house wives always talking about what dreams they had of Prince, or they cried today thinking of Prince, or if his clothes are snug and tight, or his hair, etc...

There has been such an influx of these mindless threads that a lot of the veteran members don't post as much any longer.

I joined the org as the youngest member in 2002... Obv I have a new username now, but the majority of threads now are just junk.

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Reply #13 posted 09/15/16 9:12am

joyinrepetitio
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Actually I do still enjoy coming to the Org. Why? Simply because I like to discuss Prince in all facets of his life and because I enjoy the people that make up the Org. I'm hoping that new music comes out soon to give us something fresh to chat about.

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Reply #14 posted 09/15/16 9:13am

Kara

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Yes, I do. I still learn something new about Prince here every day. Although there are some obnoxious people, and a lot of weirdos that showed up after his passing, I do enjoy being around the normal fans. Also, while I had trouble listening to Prince's music for a few months, I'm getting back into it now, and getting excited for future official releases and boots. I no longer feel like it's over like I did in the immediate aftermath.
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Reply #15 posted 09/15/16 9:13am

feeluupp

For ex.. Just the first two pages...

PRINCE WISDOM TEETH

DISCUSSING PRINCE'S SEXUALITY

DOES YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER MEET PRINCE

PRINCE'S CLOTHES SNUG TOO TIGHT

....

Let's discuss his music, history, not stupid stuff.

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Reply #16 posted 09/15/16 9:19am

feeluupp

Wait here's a good one...

HOW DO YOU CELEBRATE YOUR BIRTHDAY NOW THAT PRINCE IS GONE...

rolleyes

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Reply #17 posted 09/15/16 9:21am

luxegolightly

Militant said:

Right now it's a little weird to me - and I'll say this openly - to sometimes see entire discussions being dominated by people who signed up AFTER April 21st.

I understand that's it's par for the course, and I think a lot of these people will likely move on over time. But prior to April 21st, the community felt very tight and safe, and his passing has hit us like an atom bomb and scattered our sense of self as long term fans.

I'm absolutely not saying that there's not a place for new fans - there is and always will be. But prior to his passing, anyone who had been here for a few years, we were here when what he was doing wasn't newsworthy, when the public weren't checking for him, when he really needed us to be there.



And I could relate to damn near everyone. Because I can relate to anyone that at some point discovered Prince's music and fell in love - that's all of our stories.



What I can't relate to is people that only decided to become fans because he died and his death was mysterious and in the news all the time - and then they come here and barely talk about his music but only about his passing. I just..... I don't get that. The music is not secondary to anything. If that's your perspective then you missed his entire message.

It's different. Prince kept us on our toes in more ways than one! But the org will always be home.




But not everyone who recently joined is a new or young fan. I'm 40 and have been a fan since I saw the Purple Rain tour as a kid. I've been lurking here and reading threads since 2003 but I never felt the need to join until now. Lipstick Alley has been my message board of choice for the last decade plus and that's where I post and where I used to moderate. Not saying the Alley is better, but they don't lock or delete threads just because somebody got a little sensitive about their fave.

I totally apologize for newbies who may start or dominate threads, but I've seen questionable topics repeated over here for years by longtime members. Prince's penis size and sexual habits have been beat like a dead horse but this is the place to discuss all things P right?
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Reply #18 posted 09/15/16 9:21am

CherryMoon57

Militant said:

Right now it's a little weird to me - and I'll say this openly - to sometimes see entire discussions being dominated by people who signed up AFTER April 21st.

I understand that's it's par for the course, and I think a lot of these people will likely move on over time. But prior to April 21st, the community felt very tight and safe, and his passing has hit us like an atom bomb and scattered our sense of self as long term fans.

I'm absolutely not saying that there's not a place for new fans - there is and always will be. But prior to his passing, anyone who had been here for a few years, we were here when what he was doing wasn't newsworthy, when the public weren't checking for him, when he really needed us to be there.

And I could relate to damn near everyone. Because I can relate to anyone that at some point discovered Prince's music and fell in love - that's all of our stories.

What I can't relate to is people that only decided to become fans because he died and his death was mysterious and in the news all the time - and then they come here and barely talk about his music but only about his passing. I just..... I don't get that. The music is not secondary to anything. If that's your perspective then you missed his entire message.

It's different. Prince kept us on our toes in more ways than one! But the org will always be home.

What I don't understand, is people who seem to associate two different things to make it a fact.

People who signed up after 4/21 might have become fans way before that date, and even before the org even existed (I did)! The org is a website, and people's experiences with Prince, his music and concerts could have evolved independently from this website/the internet. You can be both a newbie here and a long-term fan, "and that's a fact!".

I don't understand why this is so hard to accept for so a called long-term fan (and moderator). It seems to me like a very obtuse approach to the Prince "universe". I actually was a Prince.org member for a while many years ago, but I opted out in the end, because I saw so much disrespect towards Prince on this website, and this from those so called long term fans... And that was many years before he passed.

I certainly don't mean this to cause an issue between us militant (you know I like you) but I still think your comments are too narrow and do not accurately reflect Prince's philosophy of inclusiveness (love 4 one another). I do understand what you mean though with regards to all the bad gossip, but in terms of what you say about long-term vs post 4/21 only, I think those comments are sligthly unfair for some genuine fans who recently joined up on here.

I mean come on, were you even born when the "real" long term fans started listening to his music?

So to answer the original question, yes I still do enjoy coming to the org, especially when it is not spoiled by harsh comments towards its members or unecessary gossip. And these two are not solely generated by newbies.

[Edited 9/15/16 9:32am]

'Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter' Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Reply #19 posted 09/15/16 9:23am

Kara

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Mintchip said:

I wonder what happened to people like Boris, or Spinlight, who used to be so good at talking music, and cutting through bullshit.

Unfortunately, a lot of these type of fans get fed up and leave or get banned.
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Reply #20 posted 09/15/16 9:26am

XxAxX

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the Org will never be the same as it was before prince passed on. but this website is still the same cool space i come to chat with friends so i still enjoy being here.

even before prince's absence the Org has always evolved, never stayed the same and i think we will always find things to talk about.

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Reply #21 posted 09/15/16 9:26am

Genesia

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Mintchip said:

There's definitely more bullshit now.

.

I still come to check for new releases, or leaks. I come to research old threads; almost every question you could ask has a bunch of threads already answering it. I enjoy that.

.

I don't enjoy the wisdom teeth threads, and the fever-swamp of any thread that touches on his death. The elite trader mentality bothers me more, now.

.

Since his death, I think the community has splintered in their need for answers. So to one group, Vanity is the love of his life. To another, Prince was murdered. It's all bullshit, unknowable, passed off as fact, because that's what people need.

.

So it's mixed. The old threads are fun, though. I wonder what happened to people like Boris, or Spinlight, who used to be so good at talking music, and cutting through bullshit.


Sadly, there's no way to bump the really good ones. I mean...what would be better right now than the sand dollar thread? touched

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #22 posted 09/15/16 9:31am

zenarose

Militant said:

Right now it's a little weird to me - and I'll say this openly - to sometimes see entire discussions being dominated by people who signed up AFTER April 21st.

I understand that's it's par for the course, and I think a lot of these people will likely move on over time. But prior to April 21st, the community felt very tight and safe, and his passing has hit us like an atom bomb and scattered our sense of self as long term fans.

I'm absolutely not saying that there's not a place for new fans - there is and always will be. But prior to his passing, anyone who had been here for a few years, we were here when what he was doing wasn't newsworthy, when the public weren't checking for him, when he really needed us to be there.

And I could relate to damn near everyone. Because I can relate to anyone that at some point discovered Prince's music and fell in love - that's all of our stories.

What I can't relate to is people that only decided to become fans because he died and his death was mysterious and in the news all the time - and then they come here and barely talk about his music but only about his passing. I just..... I don't get that. The music is not secondary to anything. If that's your perspective then you missed his entire message.

It's different. Prince kept us on our toes in more ways than one! But the org will always be home.

I have been a loyal and committed fan since 1980. I have come to this site for several years to read and stay up to date. Whether I agreed with some of the posts or not, I respect that everyone has their own truth. I have loved that about the Org. as it is very diverse. There are so many orgers that have so much knowledge and I appreciate them so much more than they will ever know. When P passed away, it affected me in ways that I cannot explain. To put it in simple terms, heart broken, shock, and anger. After 5 months I still struggle with it. There is no closure. Last month, I decided to join the org. I have had many wonderful discussions and have read so many interesting posts. I am concerned about the music and the legacy of this beautiful, talented,and loving soul that was truly a gift to us, if only for a short time. There are many discussions about many different things here on the org. Some fun and entertaining, others...eh... not so much. I scroll past the ones of no interests and click on ones that may interest me. It is my choice. I am grateful to have a place to come to celebrate and remember Prince. His music has helped me through some very bad times in my life and for that I am eternally grateful. Fams are hurting and we are all searching for the answers. Sometimes that search leads us down some pretty ugly paths, but we still have to walk that path in order to find the truth that will bring closure and let us begin to heal and move forward.

I may have just joined the Org but I have a genuine love and respect for everyone. I will continue to come here to remember and be a part of the Org. Thank you to everyone for letting me be a part of the Org.

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Reply #23 posted 09/15/16 9:39am

1contessa

Yes, I still enjoy coming to the org, to me it's a place where Prince will always be loved and remembered.

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Reply #24 posted 09/15/16 9:42am

StrangeButTrue

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Been visiting/member off and on since the late 90s and its always about the profile date for some of ya'z. Silly lol I love this place its got excitement, a personality in itself and a neverending supply of curmudgeons. Plus we funky.

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Reply #25 posted 09/15/16 9:44am

1Sasha

I agree. I had essentially lost track of Prince for decades. I might have caught him on TV (especially SNL), but the last record I bought was over 15 years ago. When he had the three-night stand at Mohegan Sun in 2013, I went, expecting to see the Prince of the 80s. My mistake since the Prince of 2013 was more of a bandleader. But at least I got to see him in person, to see the one and only. There is no other musician around (and I love Paul McCartney, but he can't do it) who was as respected - revered - as Prince was. He had no equal. He was magnificent. I came to the org after 04/21, and I have been so grateful for your knowledge, and respectful of your devotion. I am still shattered beyond words, and I don't know why, except to say, again, that he somehow is in my DNA and in my bones. I have been buying the music, the films, the videos, and I am so sad I missed him for all those years. But at least he had all of you fams to love him while he was here.

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Reply #26 posted 09/15/16 9:45am

bluegangsta

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feeluupp said:

I really hate the stupid threads made either by the new fans or the middle aged house wives always talking about what dreams they had of Prince, or they cried today thinking of Prince, or if his clothes are snug and tight, or his hair, etc...

There has been such an influx of these mindless threads that a lot of the veteran members don't post as much any longer.

I joined the org as the youngest member in 2002... Obv I have a new username now, but the majority of threads now are just junk.

DISCUSSING PRINCE'S SEXUALITY

DOES YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER MEET PRINCE

PRINCE'S CLOTHES SNUG TOO TIGHT

....

Let's discuss his music, history, not stupid stuff.

Yep x10000.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #27 posted 09/15/16 9:58am

gandorb

CherryMoon57 said:



Militant said:


Right now it's a little weird to me - and I'll say this openly - to sometimes see entire discussions being dominated by people who signed up AFTER April 21st.

I understand that's it's par for the course, and I think a lot of these people will likely move on over time. But prior to April 21st, the community felt very tight and safe, and his passing has hit us like an atom bomb and scattered our sense of self as long term fans.

I'm absolutely not saying that there's not a place for new fans - there is and always will be. But prior to his passing, anyone who had been here for a few years, we were here when what he was doing wasn't newsworthy, when the public weren't checking for him, when he really needed us to be there.



And I could relate to damn near everyone. Because I can relate to anyone that at some point discovered Prince's music and fell in love - that's all of our stories.



What I can't relate to is people that only decided to become fans because he died and his death was mysterious and in the news all the time - and then they come here and barely talk about his music but only about his passing. I just..... I don't get that. The music is not secondary to anything. If that's your perspective then you missed his entire message.

It's different. Prince kept us on our toes in more ways than one! But the org will always be home.



What I don't understand, is people who seem to associate two different things to make it a fact.

People who signed up after 4/21 might have become fans way before that date, and even before the org even existed (I did)! The org is a website, and people's experiences with Prince, his music and concerts could have evolved independently from this website/the internet. You can be both a newbie here and a long-term fan, "and that's a fact!".

I don't understand why this is so hard to accept for so a called long-term fan (and moderator). It seems to me like a very obtuse approach to the Prince "universe". I actually was a Prince.org member for a while many years ago, but I opted out in the end, because I saw so much disrespect towards Prince on this website, and this from those so called long term fans... And that was many years before he passed.

I certainly don't mean this to cause an issue between us militant (you know I like you) but I still think your comments are too narrow and do not accurately reflect Prince's philosophy of inclusiveness (love 4 one another). I do understand what you mean though with regards to all the bad gossip, but in terms of what you say about long-term vs post 4/21 only, I think those comments are sligthly unfair for some genuine fans who recently joined up on here.

I mean come on, were you even born when the "real" long term fans started listening to his music?

So to answer the original question, yes I still do enjoy coming to the org, especially when it is not spoiled by harsh comments towards its members or unecessary gossip. And these two are not solely generated by newbies.


[Edited 9/15/16 9:32am]



Amen!!!
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Reply #28 posted 09/15/16 10:01am

wonderboy

I visit more often than I used too. This place has been theropeudic for me. However, after I visit PP next month, I think this part of my life, that I have been connected to since 1984, will likley fade away.

It's been a great ride growing up with all you fans. All the music, bootlegs, trading, concerts. It's added a lot of joy to my life. All things do come to an end though.

Princefan319.

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Reply #29 posted 09/15/16 10:04am

malbena

Absolutely!!! It is a collective grieving process. I have also come to appreciate many org members.

Oldfriends4sale for him sharing information and doing research, BabyNoz hug, Nursey, NinaB for their humor and speaking their mind, LauraRichardson for generating interesting topics others would find difficult to initiate, KrystalKisses for sharing opinion in a respectful and loving manner. and many more who have made that it the reason why I come in everyday.

This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.
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