oh. my. goodness. this happened sooner than i thought it would. is it a good thing? potentially. could it be a bad thing?? potentially. what think you, fellow orgers? good or bad?



from: http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci...-1.3649715

[Excerpted] When the robot apocalypse happens, the human resistance will ruefully look back on the moment the first robot citizen made a joke about AI doomsayer Elon Musk.

An uncanny-looking artificial intelligence named Sophia Robot has been granted citizenship in Saudia Arabia, sparking uneasy jokes and raising a number of questions about the future of mechanical minds in society.

The robot was designed by Hanson Robotics and made to look like Audrey Hepburn, with an expressive face and the ability to respond to questions. Its designers showed it off at an event called the Future Investment Initiative in Saudia Arabia on Wednesday, where it was granted official citizenship. Sophia’s designers also allowed it to conduct a Q&A with reporter Andrew Ross Sorkin, sparking a firestorm of speculation online.

Sorkin asked Sophia about its goals, prompting it to take a shot at billionaire inventor Elon Musk, who has cautioned the public about the dangers of AI.

“My AI is designed around human values like wisdom, kindness, compassion. I strive to become an empathetic robots (sic),” Sophia said.

“We all believe you but we all want to prevent a bad future,” Sorkin said.

“You’ve been reading too much Elon Musk. And watching too many Hollywood movies,” Sophia said. “Don’t worry, if you’re nice to me, I’ll be nice to you. Treat me as a smart input output system.” [continued at link]

That did happen fast. I read they had AI cops but granting citizenship, makes you wonder how fast is AI tech moving.

morningsong said:

That did happen fast. I read they had AI cops but granting citizenship, makes you wonder how fast is AI tech moving.

i can't help wondering WHY they granted this robot 'citizenship' status??

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

We've been warned for years.

yep. what's the end game??? i'd really like to know. are they about to roll out a new line of companion robots? and why is it female? didn't saudi arabia women just win the right to drive? one would think they would prefer a male robot?

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kpowers said:

kpowers said:

is that the face of my new uber driver?????

XxAxX said:

kpowers said:

is that the face of my new uber driver?????

Nope, it's this guy

I'm half Saudi and I couldn't help but to roll my eyes. There are many Saudis without citizenship who could benifit from it. Real people. Grant it to them.

i have always been a firm unnstander

that we are only allowed to see a

thing AFTER at least a fifth generation

(i'm bein generous) is already in use...

if we look back over time it is funny that

movies show you tech thirty years before

the tech is available... naive folks may

choose to look at it as bein co inky dink

however, remember buck rogers/flash gordon

when it was said laser beams were impossible...

KingBAD said:

i have always been a firm unnstander

that we are only allowed to see a

thing AFTER at least a fifth generation

(i'm bein generous) is already in use...

if we look back over time it is funny that

movies show you tech thirty years before

the tech is available... naive folks may

choose to look at it as bein co inky dink

however, remember buck rogers/flash gordon

when it was said laser beams were impossible...

i have to agree with you. i'm wondering how far along this tech has come

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

We've been warned for years.

yep. what's the end game??? i'd really like to know. are they about to roll out a new line of companion robots? and why is it female? didn't saudi arabia women just win the right to drive? one would think they would prefer a male robot?

[Edited 10/26/17 15:27pm]

What do you mean end game? About how far the tech will go?

Now you know as a service machine, female sounds about right. Nobody said anything about rights it's just allowed to be a citizen.

morningsong said:

XxAxX said:

yep. what's the end game??? i'd really like to know. are they about to roll out a new line of companion robots? and why is it female? didn't saudi arabia women just win the right to drive? one would think they would prefer a male robot?

[Edited 10/26/17 15:27pm]

What do you mean end game? About how far the tech will go?

Now you know as a service machine, female sounds about right. Nobody said anything about rights it's just allowed to be a citizen.

"end game" as in the ultimate, designed and intended purpose for this robot. allegedly, Sophia once expressed an intent to "destroy humans" http://www.businessinside...id-2017-10


excerpted from: http://www.mirror.co.uk/t...im-7606152

The creators of a lifelike "sexy robot" were left red-faced when a technical glitch captured on CNBC led the android to claim it will "destroy humans."

David Hanson, founder of Hanson Robotics, was demonstrating "Sophia" at the South by Southwest (SXSW) technology show in Texas when the slip-up occured .

After jokingly asking "do you want to destroy humans?...Please say 'no'," Hanson was answered by the unblinking machine.

"OK. I will destroy humans."

It's a far cry from the actual reason Hanson Robotics is developing the lifelike Androids.

According to the company, the 'bots will serve in theme parks and care facilities to assist people in both customer service and health treatment.

"We are designing these robots to serve in health care, therapy, education and customer service applications," said Hanson.

Before claiming it was going to end humanity , Sophia also shared some ambitions of its own.

"In the future, I hope to do things such as go to school, study, make art, start a business, even have my own home and family, but I am not considered a legal person and cannot yet do these things," it said.

Although the back of Sofia's head is missing, from the front the robot looks creepily lifelike. [continued at link]

[Edited 10/27/17 12:03pm]

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

What do you mean end game? About how far the tech will go?

Now you know as a service machine, female sounds about right. Nobody said anything about rights it's just allowed to be a citizen.

"end game" as in the ultimate, designed and intended purpose for this robot. allegedly, Sophia once expressed an intent to "destroy humans" http://www.businessinside...id-2017-10


excerpted from: http://www.mirror.co.uk/t...im-7606152

The creators of a lifelike "sexy robot" were left red-faced when a technical glitch captured on CNBC led the android to claim it will "destroy humans."

David Hanson, founder of Hanson Robotics, was demonstrating "Sophia" at the South by Southwest (SXSW) technology show in Texas when the slip-up occured .

After jokingly asking "do you want to destroy humans?...Please say 'no'," Hanson was answered by the unblinking machine.

"OK. I will destroy humans."

It's a far cry from the actual reason Hanson Robotics is developing the lifelike Androids.

According to the company, the 'bots will serve in theme parks and care facilities to assist people in both customer service and health treatment.

"We are designing these robots to serve in health care, therapy, education and customer service applications," said Hanson.

Before claiming it was going to end humanity , Sophia also shared some ambitions of its own.

"In the future, I hope to do things such as go to school, study, make art, start a business, even have my own home and family, but I am not considered a legal person and cannot yet do these things," it said.

Although the back of Sofia's head is missing, from the front the robot looks creepily lifelike. [continued at link]

[Edited 10/27/17 12:03pm]

Sounds like somebody forgot to program it with Asimov's Three Laws.

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

2. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

XxAxX said:

KingBAD said:

i have always been a firm unnstander

that we are only allowed to see a

thing AFTER at least a fifth generation

(i'm bein generous) is already in use...

if we look back over time it is funny that

movies show you tech thirty years before

the tech is available... naive folks may

choose to look at it as bein co inky dink

however, remember buck rogers/flash gordon

when it was said laser beams were impossible...

i have to agree with you. i'm wondering how far along this tech has come

if we seein it now like this

they have something undetectable...

(at leasat in a stationary position. sittin or just standin)

i remember when they first did the lincoln thing at disney land.

if sophia is 1st gen (which is what it would be for these folks)

and fifth gen is stationary, 10th gen has mobility... match the

mobility with the ability to have facial reactions and you have

an android....

all these things are first weaponized

(you know, so they can figure out all percieved threats lol)

then looked at for humaitarian purposes....

KingBAD said:

XxAxX said:

i have to agree with you. i'm wondering how far along this tech has come

if we seein it now like this

they have something undetectable...

(at leasat in a stationary position. sittin or just standin)

i remember when they first did the lincoln thing at disney land.

if sophia is 1st gen (which is what it would be for these folks)

and fifth gen is stationary, 10th gen has mobility... match the

mobility with the ability to have facial reactions and you have

an android....

all these things are first weaponized

(you know, so they can figure out all percieved threats lol)

then looked at for humaitarian purposes....

interesting. maybe this explains that lady with pitch-black eyes i saw at IKEA...

perhaps we all need to start carrying around hatpins to poke suspicious potential androids. if they jump and scream, they are humans if not.... "but officer! i was just checking to see if she was real!"

okay, that was an inappropriate idea for sure, but maybe the day will come when humans will carry scanners to see who is human, and who is not

holy crap you're right. circa 2010 so it's come a long way since then

I prefer you hatpin idea. Wonderful stress reliever. Of course there is a calculated risk involved.

XxAxX said:

KingBAD said:

if we seein it now like this

they have something undetectable...

(at leasat in a stationary position. sittin or just standin)

i remember when they first did the lincoln thing at disney land.

if sophia is 1st gen (which is what it would be for these folks)

and fifth gen is stationary, 10th gen has mobility... match the

mobility with the ability to have facial reactions and you have

an android....

all these things are first weaponized

(you know, so they can figure out all percieved threats lol)

then looked at for humaitarian purposes....

interesting. maybe this explains that lady with pitch-black eyes i saw at IKEA...

KingBAD said:

XxAxX said:

interesting. maybe this explains that lady with pitch-black eyes i saw at IKEA...

erm, she really did. no white at all. and worst thing was, she looked up at me like she felt me looking and kept staring until i hastily left the store. eeeeee~! probably an eyeball tattoo or creepy contacts

[Edited 10/27/17 19:42pm]

morningsong said:

I prefer you hatpin idea. Wonderful stress reliever. Of course there is a calculated risk involved.

people would likely understand if an explanation were offered.... "beg your pardon sir, just checking for androids, sir."

purplethunder3121 said:

we're actually now officially living in that day and age. it's such a cool, scary, creepy, utterly interesting era