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Reply #120 posted 09/15/15 1:23pm

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There's also the part where Alicia takes her time coming out of the house like she is being forced to go on some family vacation when earlier she said she wanted to get out time pronto. Then she flippantly asks Travis, "How's Pete?" Why would she say something like that after he buried one of his friends. This show is about a family of sociopaths.

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Reply #121 posted 09/15/15 1:31pm

morningsong

I don't agree on it being normal, the more I'm thinking about it the more it's making sense on what's really going on, I would love to see I'm wrong. Hopefully, they'll expand character personalities more beyond cliches towards something meaty so the actors can grab ahold to something more than caricatures, something - anything that'll draw you in, that's what has made TWD so good, it was kind of an unique character view in a lot of ways.

But it's only 3 episodes left so I'm in until at least then. My juices are flowing for all my other favorite shows to come back so I all hyped anyway.



I wanted to see how Nick was going to pop the window bars with a screwdriver, now that would have been an eye opening experience for a lot of folks, but they chickened out, so only the experts know of the possiblity.



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Reply #122 posted 09/15/15 2:26pm

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lrn36 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

From the way episode 3 played out it doesn't seem like it.

It doesn't seem like anyone is communicating well, comparing notes.

And the husband, if he doesn't change, he will be one of the first to go
OR his 'good' attitude will get a lot of people killed.


This 3rd Episode was good. They are still missing the chemistry of communicating with each other on what they have seen. Adding a heightened sence of fear.

They need to hang out with these guys. Even though Tremors has a more light hearted tone, it still shows resourceful people trying to figure out what is going on around them.

Along with the mindset of 'things will go back to normal'
People also 'gossip' and talk about what they saw, what is happening.
I agree, people, even youth try to be resourceful even if it is by information.
I could take the 'pretend casual' behaviour more if they were more communicative and trying to figure out 'together' what is happening.

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But also in society there are people who think shielding others from attrocities is a good thing.
Especially people who are divorced who may feel like they have to make life much more easier for the kids. Habits form.
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But in general people still try to figure out what is going on around them and talk. But then maybe some don't.
They introduce the opportunities then pull away. The kids are asking, the ex wife was asking, the 2 trying to blend families asked each other. But it is usually left open mouthed with silence.
The kid at school tried communicating but he was shut down. And when she had opportunity later to ask him what he knew I don't think she took it.

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The writers are missing some very good suspense mystery that could take the heightened fear to different levels.

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Reply #123 posted 09/15/15 3:25pm

morningsong

OldFriends4Sale said:

lrn36 said:

They need to hang out with these guys. Even though Tremors has a more light hearted tone, it still shows resourceful people trying to figure out what is going on around them.

Along with the mindset of 'things will go back to normal'
People also 'gossip' and talk about what they saw, what is happening.
I agree, people, even youth try to be resourceful even if it is by information.
I could take the 'pretend casual' behaviour more if they were more communicative and trying to figure out 'together' what is happening.

.
But also in society there are people who think shielding others from attrocities is a good thing.
Especially people who are divorced who may feel like they have to make life much more easier for the kids. Habits form.
.
But in general people still try to figure out what is going on around them and talk. But then maybe some don't.
They introduce the opportunities then pull away. The kids are asking, the ex wife was asking, the 2 trying to blend families asked each other. But it is usually left open mouthed with silence.
The kid at school tried communicating but he was shut down. And when she had opportunity later to ask him what he knew I don't think she took it.

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The writers are missing some very good suspense mystery that could take the heightened fear to different levels.

Sure there are people who shield, hide don't talk, but on the same token not everybody on one street is going to behave that way. Weird enough stuff is happening until the neighbor lady commits suicide, another neighbor is attacked in their front yard, gunshots (which isn't atypical though) are going off, riots, all kinds of other stuff going on and not one noisy neighbor in the bunch. I know for a fact that isn't my street, I got a few noisy azz neighbors who'd be knocking on the door or at least standing on their porch trying to see whats going on when something really weird happens including gunshots.

Reminds me of the LA riots, how even now you repeatedly see footage of that truck driver being beaten by a group of men, yet you hardly ever see the footage of what also happened with that truck driver, how 4 regular adults got tired of looking at it on their tv, got up, went and helped that man in the middle of all the chaos, that is real human nature also.

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Reply #124 posted 09/15/15 6:09pm

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morningsong said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Along with the mindset of 'things will go back to normal'
People also 'gossip' and talk about what they saw, what is happening.
I agree, people, even youth try to be resourceful even if it is by information.
I could take the 'pretend casual' behaviour more if they were more communicative and trying to figure out 'together' what is happening.

.
But also in society there are people who think shielding others from attrocities is a good thing.
Especially people who are divorced who may feel like they have to make life much more easier for the kids. Habits form.
.
But in general people still try to figure out what is going on around them and talk. But then maybe some don't.
They introduce the opportunities then pull away. The kids are asking, the ex wife was asking, the 2 trying to blend families asked each other. But it is usually left open mouthed with silence.
The kid at school tried communicating but he was shut down. And when she had opportunity later to ask him what he knew I don't think she took it.

.

The writers are missing some very good suspense mystery that could take the heightened fear to different levels.

Sure there are people who shield, hide don't talk, but on the same token not everybody on one street is going to behave that way. Weird enough stuff is happening until the neighbor lady commits suicide, another neighbor is attacked in their front yard, gunshots (which isn't atypical though) are going off, riots, all kinds of other stuff going on and not one noisy neighbor in the bunch. I know for a fact that isn't my street, I got a few noisy azz neighbors who'd be knocking on the door or at least standing on their porch trying to see whats going on when something really weird happens including gunshots.

Reminds me of the LA riots, how even now you repeatedly see footage of that truck driver being beaten by a group of men, yet you hardly ever see the footage of what also happened with that truck driver, how 4 regular adults got tired of looking at it on their tv, got up, went and helped that man in the middle of all the chaos, that is real human nature also.

I'm just trying to rationize it so I don't get ticked lol
I have to do that when I'm watching something I like.
Overall like a lot of 70s 80s movies I'm overlooking stuff, so I can enjoy it.
Like, I can't spot check Purple Rain, or it would just take away the thrill.
I watch it today as I did in 1984 at the theater.

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Reply #125 posted 09/16/15 12:55am

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This movie trailer for the Fifth Wave shows everything in 2 mins that FTWD can't show in 3 episodes.

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Reply #126 posted 09/16/15 9:07pm

morningsong

OldFriends4Sale said:



morningsong said:




OldFriends4Sale said:




Along with the mindset of 'things will go back to normal'
People also 'gossip' and talk about what they saw, what is happening.
I agree, people, even youth try to be resourceful even if it is by information.
I could take the 'pretend casual' behaviour more if they were more communicative and trying to figure out 'together' what is happening.


.
But also in society there are people who think shielding others from attrocities is a good thing.
Especially people who are divorced who may feel like they have to make life much more easier for the kids. Habits form.
.
But in general people still try to figure out what is going on around them and talk. But then maybe some don't.
They introduce the opportunities then pull away. The kids are asking, the ex wife was asking, the 2 trying to blend families asked each other. But it is usually left open mouthed with silence.
The kid at school tried communicating but he was shut down. And when she had opportunity later to ask him what he knew I don't think she took it.


.


The writers are missing some very good suspense mystery that could take the heightened fear to different levels.



Sure there are people who shield, hide don't talk, but on the same token not everybody on one street is going to behave that way. Weird enough stuff is happening until the neighbor lady commits suicide, another neighbor is attacked in their front yard, gunshots (which isn't atypical though) are going off, riots, all kinds of other stuff going on and not one noisy neighbor in the bunch. I know for a fact that isn't my street, I got a few noisy azz neighbors who'd be knocking on the door or at least standing on their porch trying to see whats going on when something really weird happens including gunshots.

Reminds me of the LA riots, how even now you repeatedly see footage of that truck driver being beaten by a group of men, yet you hardly ever see the footage of what also happened with that truck driver, how 4 regular adults got tired of looking at it on their tv, got up, went and helped that man in the middle of all the chaos, that is real human nature also.




I'm just trying to rationize it so I don't get ticked lol
I have to do that when I'm watching something I like.
Overall like a lot of 70s 80s movies I'm overlooking stuff, so I can enjoy it.
Like, I can't spot check Purple Rain, or it would just take away the thrill.
I watch it today as I did in 1984 at the theater.


Yeah


I think I'm disappointed with episode 3, and its supposedly connection to episode 1s Call of the Wild reference. Thought there be something insightful and all I saw was a zombie eating a dog. I saw no depth in that. The zombie apocalypse isn't nature so something else trumps nature? Boring. I thought we'd see what actually happened when society breaks down, we saw a zombie in a hospital parking lot getting shot, a cop putting water in his trunk, a principal in one school being a zombie getting his head bashed in, a riot, a wobbly plane, zombies we don't know if they can run, climb or open doors, bite and eat things. Basically flashes of stuff we the audience just fill in gaps with our own imagination. I'm feeling dupped into watching somebody testing if they can create their own fantasy group of survivors from scratch.
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Reply #127 posted 09/20/15 10:01pm

morningsong

Episode 4, that I understood. I think I even liked it because behaviors made a lot more sense.



Of course now there's a big hole in the fence but hey, more information had to be given to the One.
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Reply #128 posted 09/21/15 5:25am

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This show flat out sucks.


I dig Z Nation much more than this disaster. At least Z Nation knows it is a campy b-level show, that in no way takes itself seriously - that type of cheese I can handle. It's stupid fun and I'm looking forward to watching season 2.



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Reply #129 posted 09/21/15 5:28am

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morningsong said:

Episode 4, that I understood. I think I even liked it because behaviors made a lot more sense. Of course now there's a big hole in the fence but hey, more information had to be given to the One.

Episode 3

When Nick sees the plane flying weird...

I'm assuming something happened, an infected died and came back or something.
Either they were able to get it under control or was this plane supposed to crash...

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I liked episode 4

I liked when the mother started beating her cracked head son. I did not like him this episode.

Really saw how selfish his addiction causes him to be
He really would be a problem in a world where things are falling apart.

The father still doesn't get it, he (reasonably) wants the world to go back to the

way it was right away. Which makes his reasonings foolish.

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Does the Army sargeant have to be so cynical already?

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So they are killing people who they think are 'infected'?

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Reply #130 posted 09/21/15 7:16am

morningsong

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This show flat out sucks.



I dig Z Nation much more than this disaster. At least Z Nation knows it is a campy b-level show, that in no way takes itself seriously - that type of cheese I can handle. It's stupid fun and I'm looking forward to watching season 2.




The vampire speed zombie baby turned me off from that, that was too much campiness for me
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Reply #131 posted 09/21/15 7:20am

morningsong

OldFriends4Sale said:



morningsong said:


Episode 4, that I understood. I think I even liked it because behaviors made a lot more sense. Of course now there's a big hole in the fence but hey, more information had to be given to the One.


Episode 3


When Nick sees the plane flying weird...


I'm assuming something happened, an infected died and came back or something.
Either they were able to get it under control or was this plane supposed to crash...


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I liked episode 4



I liked when the mother started beating her cracked head son. I did not like him this episode.


Really saw how selfish his addiction causes him to be
He really would be a problem in a world where things are falling apart.


The father still doesn't get it, he (reasonably) wants the world to go back to the


way it was right away. Which makes his reasonings foolish.



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Does the Army sargeant have to be so cynical already?



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So they are killing people who they think are 'infected'?


I never found out when the special with the zombie on the plane is supposed to air but I'm assuming that's supposed to be the plane.
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Reply #132 posted 09/21/15 9:58am

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morningsong said:

JustErin said:

This show flat out sucks.


I dig Z Nation much more than this disaster. At least Z Nation knows it is a campy b-level show, that in no way takes itself seriously - that type of cheese I can handle. It's stupid fun and I'm looking forward to watching season 2.



The vampire speed zombie baby turned me off from that, that was too much campiness for me


That was so hilariously bad...but this is what makes that show so good - like a Bruce Campbell movie.

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Reply #133 posted 09/21/15 12:03pm

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September 20, 2015

Check Out The Latest Conspiracy Theories For AMC’s ‘Fear The Walking Dead’

Rachel Tsoumbakos

For many Walking Dead fans, half the fun of watching the show is devising complicated conspiracy theories based around what they see in each episode. Now, with its companion series, Fear The Walking Dead, there are already conspiracy theories arriving, even though only three episodes have aired. Let’s have a look at some of them.

WARNING: This article contains rumors and conspiracy theories surrounding AMC’s Fear The Walking Dead that may lead to spoilers.

Tobias will return.

Tobias (played by Lincoln A. Castellanos) is a character many fans have latched onto, even though he has only appeared in two episodes so far. While the IMDb page for Fear only lists Tobias as appearing in two episodes, showrunner Dave Erickson told Yahoo! that fans need to “stay tuned” in relation to whether he will return or not. The conspiracy theories surrounding Tobias include one where Tobias will be the Morgan of the Fear world, and will return at some point down the track.

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Fear The Walking Dead is just a coma dream of Nick’s.

This conspiracy theory ties in very closely with one that has already been debunked by Walking Dead creator Robert Kirkman. In the original series, the theory goes that Rick (Andrew Lincoln) never wakes from his coma and the zombie apocalypse is just a dream. Robert Kirkman went on the record to Uproxx to state that The Walking Dead is not a figment of Rick’s imagination.

However, now that Fear The Walking Dead started with Nick being hit by a car and winding up in hospital, it seems these similar conspiracy theories have risen again.

Gloria will be a recurring zombie.

In The Walking Dead, it has been noted that many of the walkers look very similar. And there is a reason for this — AMC keeps their favorite walker actors on board and just recycles them at will. This makes a lot of sense, considering AMC would have to continually train up new actors to play walkers, but it has almost become a game to many Walking Dead fans of “spot the recurring zombie.” As a result, a conspiracy theory has popped up that perhaps Gloria (Lexi Johnson), the zombie Nick first encountered before he ran out in front of that car, will pop up in subsequent episodes of Fear The Walking Dead. While there have been no sightings to present, the fans of the recurring zombies theories are still hopeful.

The plane seen in Episode 3 will be the plane used in the Fear standalone.

AMC recently announced there would be a standalone Walking Dead event that would occur on a plane according to Entertainment Weekly. Then, when Episode 3 showed a plane flying overhead, lilting and then righting itself, the conspiracy theories started that this plane will be the one used in the “Zombies on a Plane” standalone. In this standalone, one of the survivors on the plane will become a new cast member for Fear The Walking Dead. This leads to the final of the Fear conspiracy theories.

Who will be the new character?

This theory is actually three theories so far. Firstly, one of Matt’s (Alicia’s boyfriend) parents could return from their trip. However, an ominous image of their car in the driveway would suggest the parents have already returned home and have been attacked by their son. The second of the conspiracy theories involves a relative of the Salazars. Although Ofelia (Mercedes Mason) has stated they had no family left thanks to the civil war in El Salvador, her father did say they had a cousin who lived in the U.S. The final in this batch of conspiracy theories is that of Tobias’ mother. He had discussed with Madison (Kim Dickens) the fact his mother was not present. However, could she return to her son? Only time will tell for these conspiracy theories.

Fear The Walking Dead is currently screening on AMC.

Do you know of any other conspiracy theories? Which is your favorite out of these conspiracy theories? Comment below!

[Image credits: AMC]

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Reply #136 posted 09/21/15 12:13pm

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I thought the entire point of the show was to portray how society fell to the zombie apocalypse. But now the pretty much skip through all of that. We see a couple of small scale riots in the last previous episode and now most of LA collapsed. And once again we are in a compound with an asshole leader. As if Walking Dead didn't have enough compounds with asshole leaders. We all know the compound will get overun with walkers and they'll have to escape only find a new compound run by assholes. The entire premise of FTWD and TWD is dead in the water.

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Reply #137 posted 09/21/15 12:38pm

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lrn36 said:

I thought the entire point of the show was to portray how society fell to the zombie apocalypse. But now the pretty much skip through all of that. We see a couple of small scale riots in the last previous episode and now most of LA collapsed. And once again we are in a compound with an asshole leader. As if Walking Dead didn't have enough compounds with asshole leaders. We all know the compound will get overun with walkers and they'll have to escape only find a new compound run by assholes. The entire premise of FTWD and TWD is dead in the water.

Pretty much my entire point. LA is a big ginormous city, with a gigantic melting pot of cultures and ideas, the mayham and chaos would have been far worse before marshal law could have ever been thought to be implemented. We saw absolutely no new information which was the draw in the first place.


But its 2 more episodes no harm in seeing where it goes.



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Reply #139 posted 09/22/15 4:19pm

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Reply #140 posted 09/24/15 10:38am

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This is exactly what I was thinking.

They are trying really too hard to force that Johnny Depp/Buster Keeton/Charlie Chaplin thing. Yes, the boy kind of favors Johnny, but the whole Benny and Joon thing Johnny was 1,000 times hotter behind smaller significant details that aren't in play here. I wish they'd stop because it ain't workin' for me. It's annoying actually.

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Reply #141 posted 09/24/15 11:19am

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I like him. I like his wisdom
There was something else he said I believe at the end of episode 3 something about Good people not surviving this

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Reply #142 posted 09/24/15 12:30pm

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JustErin said:

This show flat out sucks.


I dig Z Nation much more than this disaster. At least Z Nation knows it is a campy b-level show, that in no way takes itself seriously - that type of cheese I can handle. It's stupid fun and I'm looking forward to watching season 2.



I tried watching that show.......it was so painful, SYFY at it worse duh

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Reply #143 posted 09/24/15 12:32pm

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morningsong said:

Rueben Blades, once ran for president of Panama

He is an icon in Panama and is much admired throughout Latin America and Spain, and managed to attract 18% of the vote in his failed attempt to win the Panamanian presidency in 1994. In September 2004, he was appointed minister of tourism by Panamanian president Martín Torrijos for a five-year term. He holds a Licenciado en Derecho law degree from the University of Panama and an LL.M in International Law from Harvard University. He is married to singer Luba Mason.[4]

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Reply #144 posted 09/24/15 12:37pm

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She a reason to watch

http://40.media.tumblr.com/e27cb4f13ef12a9174bd89cec5f6f1d8/tumblr_inline_nuayvdL2Mc1shvkrt_1280.jpg

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Reply #145 posted 09/24/15 12:39pm

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morningsong said:

This is exactly what I was thinking.

They are trying really too hard to force that Johnny Depp/Buster Keeton/Charlie Chaplin thing. Yes, the boy kind of favors Johnny, but the whole Benny and Joon thing Johnny was 1,000 times hotter behind smaller significant details that aren't in play here. I wish they'd stop because it ain't workin' for me. It's annoying actually.

Getting tired of this character from episode one. Hope the character gets bit already

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Reply #146 posted 09/24/15 2:10pm

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kpowers said:

morningsong said:

Rueben Blades, once ran for president of Panama

He is an icon in Panama and is much admired throughout Latin America and Spain, and managed to attract 18% of the vote in his failed attempt to win the Panamanian presidency in 1994. In September 2004, he was appointed minister of tourism by Panamanian president Martín Torrijos for a five-year term. He holds a Licenciado en Derecho law degree from the University of Panama and an LL.M in International Law from Harvard University. He is married to singer Luba Mason.[4]

A real life badass.

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Reply #147 posted 09/24/15 2:17pm

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Thanks for this, I didn´t even know about this show. I´m watching it right now.

Looks a bit cheap ( well, what do I expect, it´s made by SyFy) but it does not look as cheap as most of their other SyFy/The Asylum productions.

But at least they get to the point and it seems to be entertaining, from what I gather so far.

wink

JustErin said:

This show flat out sucks.


I dig Z Nation much more than this disaster. At least Z Nation knows it is a campy b-level show, that in no way takes itself seriously - that type of cheese I can handle. It's stupid fun and I'm looking forward to watching season 2.



" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #148 posted 09/24/15 4:22pm

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KoolEaze said:

Thanks for this, I didn´t even know about this show. I´m watching it right now.


Looks a bit cheap ( well, what do I expect, it´s made by SyFy) but it does not look as cheap as most of their other SyFy/The Asylum productions.


But at least they get to the point and it seems to be entertaining, from what I gather so far.


wink



JustErin said:


This show flat out sucks.



I dig Z Nation much more than this disaster. At least Z Nation knows it is a campy b-level show, that in no way takes itself seriously - that type of cheese I can handle. It's stupid fun and I'm looking forward to watching season 2.







It is low budget and cheesy and not the greatest at first, but it does get more endearing with each episode.
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Reply #149 posted 09/24/15 8:26pm

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kpowers said:



morningsong said:


This is exactly what I was thinking.


They are trying really too hard to force that Johnny Depp/Buster Keeton/Charlie Chaplin thing. Yes, the boy kind of favors Johnny, but the whole Benny and Joon thing Johnny was 1,000 times hotter behind smaller significant details that aren't in play here. I wish they'd stop because it ain't workin' for me. It's annoying actually.




Getting tired of this character from episode one. Hope the character gets bit already


I'm impressed on how Frank has presented the character especially after what I interrupted his behavior as siddish during the SDCC panel, a very bad thing for an actor unless he was acting.
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