If you mean pyscho bitches, than yes.

All the ladies have been nice. Every single one of them. Though I tend to pick ladies who turn out to be too clingy and exceptionally jealous.

kewlschool said:

All the ladies have been nice. Every single one of them. Though I tend to pick ladies who turn out to be too clingy and exceptionally jealous.

Should we assume this is so because you are good in bed?

SeventeenDayze said:

kewlschool said:

All the ladies have been nice. Every single one of them. Though I tend to pick ladies who turn out to be too clingy and exceptionally jealous.

Should we assume this is so because you are good in bed?

Well, I am the ORG's other fancy lesbian. (Prince being the other)

kewlschool said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Should we assume this is so because you are good in bed?

Well, I am the ORG's other fancy lesbian. (Prince being the other)

Now that's comedy

I usually like smart girls with personality and some kind of talent.

Physical features:

1) Natural black women. (No fake boobs, butt implants or stuff like that)
2) Latinas, asians, mixed girls in general.
3) Caucasians with big brown eyes. (Winona Ryder comes to mind)

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A good smile is definitely a plus, I love it.

SeventeenDayze said:

paintedlady said:

I find myself in that exact same predicament... I am 43 and most men I meet are married.

I am still with the same guy who comes around... but I feel that after 5 years things have gone stale.

There is no growth, no real investment on his part, though he claims to love me more now than he did when he first fell in love years ago. We like eachother, but if this is it then I feel bamboozled and I want my money back! Screw this "love" business!

Atleast the sex is fun.... for now.

Yeah it does seem that it gets to a point where every guy on the planet is taken, even the horrible ones

Do you feel you have invested on your part? I think in the beginning you made it clear that "I only want sex, no staying over no food, my kids are my life". Have you changed your mind?

I will tell you that when I go online and put my pic up, AND I AM NO BEAUTY, I get plenty of attention from MARRIED men.

Seems this is the deal, they marry the girl that looks as clost to an upper class wife as they can find. She ain't fat at all. She may or may not be a "whore in the sheets" but they seem to love to come after chunky and straight up fat gals for that extra something. When I was on plenty of fish the first time, I got cruised by many men in their twenties when i was in my fifties. They all had these secret taboo fantasies of having sex with a much older woman. Like I said, I do NOT look like Joan Collins did at 50 so I was quite suprised that they were sending messages my way. There are many men who get turned on by women that would never "rate" with their friends and family.

Deadflow3r said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Yeah it does seem that it gets to a point where every guy on the planet is taken, even the horrible ones

Do you feel you have invested on your part? I think in the beginning you made it clear that "I only want sex, no staying over no food, my kids are my life". Have you changed your mind?

I will tell you that when I go online and put my pic up, AND I AM NO BEAUTY, I get plenty of attention from MARRIED men.

Seems this is the deal, they marry the girl that looks as clost to an upper class wife as they can find. She ain't fat at all. She may or may not be a "whore in the sheets" but they seem to love to come after chunky and straight up fat gals for that extra something. When I was on plenty of fish the first time, I got cruised by many men in their twenties when i was in my fifties. They all had these secret taboo fantasies of having sex with a much older woman. Like I said, I do NOT look like Joan Collins did at 50 so I was quite suprised that they were sending messages my way. There are many men who get turned on by women that would never "rate" with their friends and family.

Sorry Deadflow3r but you have me confused with someone else. I never said those words

i'm thinking maybe i never really had a "type"? i've always been attracted to dark hair and eyes. i've never dated anyone with blonde hair or blue eyes, but i'm sure i would of if i had met someone. my first boyfriend looked very much like mark curry. fast forward 3 years and i liked a guy that very much looked like keanu reeves. and now my husband that i've been with for 12 years looks different than anyone else i dated.

Uniden, that's pretty cool that you had a chance to sample all flavors Win-win situation there!

Deadflow3r said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Yeah it does seem that it gets to a point where every guy on the planet is taken, even the horrible ones

Do you feel you have invested on your part? I think in the beginning you made it clear that "I only want sex, no staying over no food, my kids are my life". Have you changed your mind?

I will tell you that when I go online and put my pic up, AND I AM NO BEAUTY, I get plenty of attention from MARRIED men.

Seems this is the deal, they marry the girl that looks as clost to an upper class wife as they can find. She ain't fat at all. She may or may not be a "whore in the sheets" but they seem to love to come after chunky and straight up fat gals for that extra something. When I was on plenty of fish the first time, I got cruised by many men in their twenties when i was in my fifties. They all had these secret taboo fantasies of having sex with a much older woman. Like I said, I do NOT look like Joan Collins did at 50 so I was quite suprised that they were sending messages my way. There are many men who get turned on by women that would never "rate" with their friends and family.

I've learned not to give a man any more than he gives me.

I never shared my intentions with him, I just sized him up from the beginning. I know he isn't willing to help me raise my children, nor would I want him to. He did that already with his last relationship and he is jaded. He gave me the vibe from the first day that he just wants some fun, and so understand his needs, they suit mine as well because I am not looking to marry.

He is a nice guy, but you have to sport a thick skin with him and know what you want. A man will tell you what he wants from you if you really listen to him. This guy told me he wants a friend and some sex... drama free. Didn't get mush more from him, even though verbally he promised me marriage and the whole nine. His actions said otherwise.

So we are just in the place of being intamate friends. I see sex as a two way advantage and privilege for both parties, I don't treat men like they owe me something because I am "giving it up" so to speak. I think it is an even exchange.

I will say this, we are lovers turned into true friends... there isn't a moment we don't laugh when we are together. Marriage? Eh, I don't think I'll ever meet a man who I will want that with, and want the same with me. I tend to attract the non-marrying type.

It has! And in a great way

SeventeenDayze said:

Deadflow3r said:

Do you feel you have invested on your part? I think in the beginning you made it clear that "I only want sex, no staying over no food, my kids are my life". Have you changed your mind?

I will tell you that when I go online and put my pic up, AND I AM NO BEAUTY, I get plenty of attention from MARRIED men.

Seems this is the deal, they marry the girl that looks as clost to an upper class wife as they can find. She ain't fat at all. She may or may not be a "whore in the sheets" but they seem to love to come after chunky and straight up fat gals for that extra something. When I was on plenty of fish the first time, I got cruised by many men in their twenties when i was in my fifties. They all had these secret taboo fantasies of having sex with a much older woman. Like I said, I do NOT look like Joan Collins did at 50 so I was quite suprised that they were sending messages my way. There are many men who get turned on by women that would never "rate" with their friends and family.

Sorry Deadflow3r but you have me confused with someone else. I never said those words

I was talking to painted lady and she responded already. Sorry for the way it cam through.

paintedlady said:

Deadflow3r said:

Do you feel you have invested on your part? I think in the beginning you made it clear that "I only want sex, no staying over no food, my kids are my life". Have you changed your mind?

I will tell you that when I go online and put my pic up, AND I AM NO BEAUTY, I get plenty of attention from MARRIED men.

Seems this is the deal, they marry the girl that looks as clost to an upper class wife as they can find. She ain't fat at all. She may or may not be a "whore in the sheets" but they seem to love to come after chunky and straight up fat gals for that extra something. When I was on plenty of fish the first time, I got cruised by many men in their twenties when i was in my fifties. They all had these secret taboo fantasies of having sex with a much older woman. Like I said, I do NOT look like Joan Collins did at 50 so I was quite suprised that they were sending messages my way. There are many men who get turned on by women that would never "rate" with their friends and family.

I've learned not to give a man any more than he gives me.

I never shared my intentions with him, I just sized him up from the beginning. I know he isn't willing to help me raise my children, nor would I want him to. He did that already with his last relationship and he is jaded. He gave me the vibe from the first day that he just wants some fun, and so understand his needs, they suit mine as well because I am not looking to marry.

He is a nice guy, but you have to sport a thick skin with him and know what you want. A man will tell you what he wants from you if you really listen to him. This guy told me he wants a friend and some sex... drama free. Didn't get mush more from him, even though verbally he promised me marriage and the whole nine. His actions said otherwise.

So we are just in the place of being intamate friends. I see sex as a two way advantage and privilege for both parties, I don't treat men like they owe me something because I am "giving it up" so to speak. I think it is an even exchange.

I will say this, we are lovers turned into true friends... there isn't a moment we don't laugh when we are together. Marriage? Eh, I don't think I'll ever meet a man who I will want that with, and want the same with me. I tend to attract the non-marrying type.

I have always enjoyed when you share about this relationship because it does seem as if you two truly care about one another. Sometimes he has said that he wants to marry you. Honestly, I am no one to give advice, wish I knew more. I just always get the feeling that he truly cares about you .

Deadflow3r said:

paintedlady said:

I've learned not to give a man any more than he gives me.

I never shared my intentions with him, I just sized him up from the beginning. I know he isn't willing to help me raise my children, nor would I want him to. He did that already with his last relationship and he is jaded. He gave me the vibe from the first day that he just wants some fun, and so understand his needs, they suit mine as well because I am not looking to marry.

He is a nice guy, but you have to sport a thick skin with him and know what you want. A man will tell you what he wants from you if you really listen to him. This guy told me he wants a friend and some sex... drama free. Didn't get mush more from him, even though verbally he promised me marriage and the whole nine. His actions said otherwise.

So we are just in the place of being intamate friends. I see sex as a two way advantage and privilege for both parties, I don't treat men like they owe me something because I am "giving it up" so to speak. I think it is an even exchange.

I will say this, we are lovers turned into true friends... there isn't a moment we don't laugh when we are together. Marriage? Eh, I don't think I'll ever meet a man who I will want that with, and want the same with me. I tend to attract the non-marrying type.

I have always enjoyed when you share about this relationship because it does seem as if you two truly care about one another. Sometimes he has said that he wants to marry you. Honestly, I am no one to give advice, wish I knew more. I just always get the feeling that he truly cares about you .

Thanks so much for saying that...

sometimes I think I am such a fool, I think I'll never find love, your post gives me some hope that I am not such a dumbass with men. I worked on myself and tried to come at this love crap with an open heart after getting it ripped out over and over again. dealing with him and his jaded heart sometimes gets confusing and I wonder if I am wasting my time.

My mom says I have "no luck" with men.... I would like to not think of my life that way. I know he's a good guy (he actually brought me roses (red-I hate red) today, a loving gesture just because) he's sweet in his own way, but I like him because we are really good friends.

I think in that I am lucky (or blessed) to have a friend in him.

I wish I knew more about men and love myself Deadflow3r.

paintedlady said:

Deadflow3r said:

I have always enjoyed when you share about this relationship because it does seem as if you two truly care about one another. Sometimes he has said that he wants to marry you. Honestly, I am no one to give advice, wish I knew more. I just always get the feeling that he truly cares about you .

Thanks so much for saying that...

sometimes I think I am such a fool, I think I'll never find love, your post gives me some hope that I am not such a dumbass with men. I worked on myself and tried to come at this love crap with an open heart after getting it ripped out over and over again. dealing with him and his jaded heart sometimes gets confusing and I wonder if I am wasting my time.

My mom says I have "no luck" with men.... I would like to not think of my life that way. I know he's a good guy (he actually brought me roses (red-I hate red) today, a loving gesture just because) he's sweet in his own way, but I like him because we are really good friends.

I think in that I am lucky (or blessed) to have a friend in him.

I wish I knew more about men and love myself Deadflow3r.

Women are just as complicated, but with more fluctuating hormone levels.

kewlschool said:

paintedlady said:

Thanks so much for saying that...

sometimes I think I am such a fool, I think I'll never find love, your post gives me some hope that I am not such a dumbass with men. I worked on myself and tried to come at this love crap with an open heart after getting it ripped out over and over again. dealing with him and his jaded heart sometimes gets confusing and I wonder if I am wasting my time.

My mom says I have "no luck" with men.... I would like to not think of my life that way. I know he's a good guy (he actually brought me roses (red-I hate red) today, a loving gesture just because) he's sweet in his own way, but I like him because we are really good friends.

I think in that I am lucky (or blessed) to have a friend in him.

I wish I knew more about men and love myself Deadflow3r.

Women are just as complicated, but with more fluctuating hormone levels.

Regarding hormone levels...I think men are equally complicated and emotional... the guys I dated always got moody if they needed sex. I could always tell by my guy's temperment when he needed sex.

paintedlady said:

kewlschool said:

Women are just as complicated, but with more fluctuating hormone levels.

Regarding hormone levels...I think men are equally complicated and emotional... the guys I dated always got moody if they needed sex. I could always tell by my guy's temperment when he needed sex.

With one of the guys I dated, the longer it had been since he busted one, the less he would say.

paintedlady said:

kewlschool said:

Women are just as complicated, but with more fluctuating hormone levels.

Regarding hormone levels...I think men are equally complicated and emotional... the guys I dated always got moody if they needed sex. I could always tell by my guy's temperment when he needed sex.

I know there are moody MF men out there, but women have a monthly monster that sometimes can be very unpleasant to be around.

my type has always been tall dark handsome with big willy.. daniel craig is an exception to my rule & i actually wouldn't care if he was miniscule.

My type hasn't evolved much:

It always has been athletic body, dark curls, big lips, well hung no sagging balls, androgenic look, alternative, casual dressing style with an occasional chique touch, scientific education, humor and open-minded.


I'm in love with a man that has almost none of the characteristics abovementioned.



So, what's in a type, really?

paintedlady said:

I've always been drawn to men my age... so as I age, so do my tastes in men. You won't see me eyeballing one of my girlfriend's sons.

That's rude.


I was always drawn to "tall, dark and handsome" but physically speaking.... I have dated different looking and different men culturally. I HAVE noticed that if I get my heart broken I search for the opposite. I dated "Mr. Adonis the narcissist" and then went to dating "Mr. flabby and short" after that. One was cheap, the other was generous.... but both were selfish assholes in the end.

I've had that rebound attraction too. And came to the same conclusion.

I have YET to meet a man who really wants to make me happy (though they promise me this) - maybe that just doesn't exist. Men just want a woman to make them happy and tell her lies in order to get their needs met and keep other men from dating the women they meet.

I'm close to being DONE.

Isn't this universal and human?

Aren't women in relationships because the assume mister will make her happy? I'm using the heterosexual standard, but I guess same rule applies for the homosexual mating.

I think a lot of women stay in an abusive relationship, because they tell themselves that she can change him, and if she succeeds, he will love her and make her happy.


I've just got myself in a relationship again, and I like it. However, as soon as I notice that I'm the giver and he's the taker, I'll abandon the ship.

It's just not easy to notice what is giving and what is taking.

If I give him a present, that actually serves me, is that giving or taking?

For example, if I give him something for his house, that I want to use in his house, is that giving something to him, or is it taking away his control over his house?

Why do people want to be in a monogamous relationship? I think because they want that because they think the get something out of it. Something that is better than when you stay single.


I think that men and women have different needs, due to their different history. Nowadays, women don't need men in order to survive. For thousands of years before, women depended on men for their survival. Men made women pregnant and in order to feed their children, women needed men.
Nowadays, women use birthcontrol and don't need men to feed themselves and can decide if she wants children or not. These fundamental different circumstances will change the need for a relationship.

I bet that in a few decades marriage will be extinct. Just like long-time relationships. And if women can form an identity that is not defined by motherhood, the need for a relationship with a man is none.


I think birth control is the most changing innovation of the past century.

paintedlady said:

I've learned not to give a man any more than he gives me.

This is the most important lesson there is for women around the world. If only mothers would teach their daughters this.

Personally I lie to myself repeatedly.

I am not even on speaking terms with my family so that makes me lonely.

Stupidly, I let men know of my situation. Single, alone in the world. Just guess who I attract?

I am not naturally a liar. However, I feel like a sitting duck.

dJJ said:

paintedlady said:

I've always been drawn to men my age... so as I age, so do my tastes in men. You won't see me eyeballing one of my girlfriend's sons.

That's rude.


I was always drawn to "tall, dark and handsome" but physically speaking.... I have dated different looking and different men culturally. I HAVE noticed that if I get my heart broken I search for the opposite. I dated "Mr. Adonis the narcissist" and then went to dating "Mr. flabby and short" after that. One was cheap, the other was generous.... but both were selfish assholes in the end.

I've had that rebound attraction too. And came to the same conclusion.

I have YET to meet a man who really wants to make me happy (though they promise me this) - maybe that just doesn't exist. Men just want a woman to make them happy and tell her lies in order to get their needs met and keep other men from dating the women they meet.

I'm close to being DONE.

Isn't this universal and human?

Aren't women in relationships because the assume mister will make her happy? I'm using the heterosexual standard, but I guess same rule applies for the homosexual mating.

I think a lot of women stay in an abusive relationship, because they tell themselves that she can change him, and if she succeeds, he will love her and make her happy.


I've just got myself in a relationship again, and I like it. However, as soon as I notice that I'm the giver and he's the taker, I'll abandon the ship.

It's just not easy to notice what is giving and what is taking.

If I give him a present, that actually serves me, is that giving or taking?

For example, if I give him something for his house, that I want to use in his house, is that giving something to him, or is it taking away his control over his house?

Why do people want to be in a monogamous relationship? I think because they want that because they think the get something out of it. Something that is better than when you stay single.


I think that men and women have different needs, due to their different history. Nowadays, women don't need men in order to survive. For thousands of years before, women depended on men for their survival. Men made women pregnant and in order to feed their children, women needed men.
Nowadays, women use birthcontrol and don't need men to feed themselves and can decide if she wants children or not. These fundamental different circumstances will change the need for a relationship.

I bet that in a few decades marriage will be extinct. Just like long-time relationships. And if women can form an identity that is not defined by motherhood, the need for a relationship with a man is none.


I think birth control is the most changing innovation of the past century.

I think both men and women look for things that will make them happy... but looking for love and companionship is a two-way street (or should be) where both parties equally exchange with each other in order to meet life goals and raise a family.

Humans by nature need touch, we are pack animals and even the most solitary of humans still need a good fuck every once and a while.


I myself love being left the hell alone. Can't stand a mofo up under me all the time, go somewhere! But I speak more of the "empty promises" factor, those carrot dangling in front of faces muthafukkas who lie, hoodwink, and bamboozle their way into making someone love them. Waste a bitches time, knowing she/he would of left long ago if she/he wasn't manipulated into sticking around.

I just want an honest man... if you ONLY want to fuck me, then say so! If you are a miser and don't like going out to dinner, tell me! If you don't like kids and don't want any, tell me! If you never want to marry or don't want to marry my fat ass, tell me that shit too! Don't lie to me, "Baby I love you, I want to marry you, your are my world, you are my one and only, I just want to live to make you happy, I want to have kids with you." lying ass muthafukkas!!!

Do not tell me you love the way I suck your dick and leave me for another woman because she sucks your dick they way you like it. If you don't like the way I suck your dick, then tell me so! I'll move on to another dude who doesn't mind the teethmarks and not waste each other's time.

I know I am not perfect, but I do not like being sold a bill of goods you never intend to make good on, and only lie to get me to be with you and STAY with you (wasting my time) until you meet that new bitch ya really want.

The problem is not people wanting things, the problem is people lying and doing anything to get what they want at the expense of hurting those they claim to adore. When you are honest about what you want with me, I can make an informed decision about spending my precious time with you. I am honest about my shit, I'll tell a dude what I will and will not do, what I have to give and who I really am... I just want the same consideration.


I have yet to be with a man who didn't lie about who he was or what he wanted from me in order to get what he wants.

I attract liars, I know there are honest men out there, but they don't date my ass! Those honest men steer clear from me!

Deadflow3r said:

Personally I lie to myself repeatedly.

I am not even on speaking terms with my family so that makes me lonely.

Stupidly, I let men know of my situation. Single, alone in the world. Just guess who I attract?

I am not naturally a liar. However, I feel like a sitting duck.

I think MANY people feel like sitting ducks (vulnerable ) because of their situation.... many women I know lower their standards as they age knowing the quality of single men out there is harder to find.

The standards lower, they don't mind a "fixer upper" as much and just choose a "demon" they are willing to deal with.

I just don't want to be that lady dating grandpa Moses, who is toothless and wearing diapers because he is the only single guy left in my neighborhood.

paintedlady said:

Deadflow3r said:

Personally I lie to myself repeatedly.

I am not even on speaking terms with my family so that makes me lonely.

Stupidly, I let men know of my situation. Single, alone in the world. Just guess who I attract?

I am not naturally a liar. However, I feel like a sitting duck.

I think MANY people feel like sitting ducks (vulnerable ) because of their situation.... many women I know lower their standards as they age knowing the quality of single men out there is harder to find.

The standards lower, they don't mind a "fixer upper" as much and just choose a "demon" they are willing to deal with.

I just don't want to be that lady dating grandpa Moses, who is toothless and wearing diapers because he is the only single guy left in my neighborhood.

I was just yeterday having a conversation with a buddy who's always been with knock-out women (he's a looker himself) but after 3 failed marriages he's thinking of seeking women who aren't physically his ideal but can offer other things (namely financial stability).

paintedlady said:

I fancy girls of all shapes, sizes, creeds and colors.

morningsong said:

paintedlady said:

...Do not tell me you love the way I suck your dick and leave me for another woman because she sucks your dick they way you like it. If you don't like the way I suck your dick, then tell me so! I'll move on to another dude who doesn't mind the teethmarks and not waste each other's time...

That's it right there. They just want to make sure they're getting it sucked UNTIL they find someone else who sucks it more like they like it. Or at least that's what I've come to the conclusion, don't believe a thing that's falling out from the lips. Daddy was trying to tell me something those many decades ago. "When you find someone whose mouth cut up and down, you might be able to believe everything that comes out of it."

Daddy ain't neva lied!!