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Reply #120 posted 03/22/14 2:45am

kpowers

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Timmy84 said:

noimageatall said:

This entire fiasco is insane. nuts First it disappeared. Then it crashed in the ocean. Then someone reported they saw it crash. Then certain 'unknowns' turned off all tracking systems and they say it was hijacked...now it's the pilots who are suspected. I swear I don't think anyone knows what the hell is going on. confused disbelief

They're saying anything hoping it will stick on the wall. So far, that's failed.

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Reply #121 posted 03/24/14 7:59am

nursev

so sad...may their families find peace rose that's why I dont fly and never will.
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Reply #122 posted 03/24/14 8:53am

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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 'ended in southern Indian Ocean,' PM says

In a somber breakthrough in a weeks-long search, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 “ended” in the southern Indian Ocean.

Najib said searchers used a new form of data analysis — never used before in a search for a missing plane — to determine the aircraft was lost in a remote area of the Indian Ocean west of Perth, Australia.

The area where the plane is believed to have gone down is far from any possible landing sites, Najib said.

More here:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/wo...1.2584000

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Reply #123 posted 03/24/14 9:22am

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JustErin said:

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 'ended in southern Indian Ocean,' PM says


In a somber breakthrough in a weeks-long search, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 “ended” in the southern Indian Ocean.


Najib said searchers used a new form of data analysis — never used before in a search for a missing plane — to determine the aircraft was lost in a remote area of the Indian Ocean west of Perth, Australia.


The area where the plane is believed to have gone down is far from any possible landing sites, Najib said.

More here:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/wo...1.2584000






all just very sad...I see on cnn that the wife of the victim from texas wants the wreckage as proof.
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Reply #124 posted 03/24/14 9:36am

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nursev said:

JustErin said:

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 'ended in southern Indian Ocean,' PM says

In a somber breakthrough in a weeks-long search, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 “ended” in the southern Indian Ocean.

Najib said searchers used a new form of data analysis — never used before in a search for a missing plane — to determine the aircraft was lost in a remote area of the Indian Ocean west of Perth, Australia.

The area where the plane is believed to have gone down is far from any possible landing sites, Najib said.

More here:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/wo...1.2584000

all just very sad...I see on cnn that the wife of the victim from texas wants the wreckage as proof.


She'll get it...in time.

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Reply #125 posted 03/24/14 9:37am

morningsong

pray rose

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Reply #126 posted 03/24/14 9:41am

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so sad...may their families find peace rose that's why I dont fly and never will.

It is very sad, but I don't understand why people say they don't fly and never will. Planes are so much more safer than cars, bikes, boats and trains. Also, there are amazing places to see in this world, so you are missing out by not flying at least a few times in your life.

I would rather fly then get on the highway in my city. People are texting, eating, talking on the cell, putting make-up on, fighting etc, etc.

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Reply #127 posted 03/24/14 9:50am

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Empress said:



nursev said:


so sad...may their families find peace rose that's why I dont fly and never will.

It is very sad, but I don't understand why people say they don't fly and never will. Planes are so much more safer than cars, bikes, boats and trains. Also, there are amazing places to see in this world, so you are missing out by not flying at least a few times in your life.



I would rather fly then get on the highway in my city. People are texting, eating, talking on the cell, putting make-up on, fighting etc, etc.



I have already lived through a traumatic event and on top of that im afraid of heights and have no luck. I'll pass. yes there are many places to see in the world...but im content and have the internet
wink at least if my car crashes i have a chance to live. crashing in the ocean is such a terrible way to die and just a nightmare scenario come true. not worth the risk to me.
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Reply #128 posted 03/24/14 9:52am

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JustErin said:



nursev said:


JustErin said:

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 'ended in southern Indian Ocean,' PM says


In a somber breakthrough in a weeks-long search, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 “ended” in the southern Indian Ocean.


Najib said searchers used a new form of data analysis — never used before in a search for a missing plane — to determine the aircraft was lost in a remote area of the Indian Ocean west of Perth, Australia.


The area where the plane is believed to have gone down is far from any possible landing sites, Najib said.

More here:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/wo...1.2584000





all just very sad...I see on cnn that the wife of the victim from texas wants the wreckage as proof.


She'll get it...in time.



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Reply #129 posted 03/24/14 9:59am

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stuff of nightmares sad



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Reply #130 posted 03/24/14 2:38pm

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sad My friend that i mentioned earlier in the thread. Was posting about this on facebook... she is pretty devastated sad i feel so bad for her and the other family members. And i can understand their anger! seeing as there's no 100% proof. And they were given new information every single day. I just hope the media can fuck off a little. And leave the poor people alone for awhile.

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Reply #131 posted 03/25/14 4:46am

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I think it was pretty fucked up how Malaysia Airlines sent text messages informing families of the discovery yesterday disbelief :

Text Message to Passenger Families a 'Secondary Trauma,' Grief Experts Say



Since the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jet more than two weeks ago, passengers' relatives — and much of the planet — have been gripped by uncertainty about the fate of those aboard, whipsawed by conflicting reports and speculation.

On Monday, some received stunning news via text message: Malaysia Airlines told the relatives that the plane "has been lost and that none of those on board have survived."

It was a shocking moment — perhaps even more so for the way it was delivered. Malaysia Airlines said it informed "the majority of the families" in person and by phone. But experts in disaster response and grief questioned the humanity of the text-message notification.

Told of the text, Karla Vermeulen, a professor of psychology and the assistant director of the Institute for Disaster Mental Health at the State University of New York at New Paltz, exclaimed "Oh, wow."

"That strikes me as efficient, but very inappropriate," Vermeulen said. "To break that big a piece of news, that devastating, by text seems pretty tone deaf and insensitive."

A text message, she explained, is incapable of communicating emotion no matter what words are used in the text. Human beings have evolved to sense and communicate emotion with our faces, primarily our eyes. Research has shown that texting is no substitute.


That's one reason why, for example, the military notifies families of a loved one's death in person. In an airline disaster in the U.S., relatives typically get personal attention from an airline employee, Red Cross volunteer or other official. Some airlines run drills for such an eventuality.

Even though this bad news was hardly unexpected, Vermeulen said, "People will have strong reactions. They fall down, they cry. To do this in a vacuum, staring at the phone, with no personal support there seems like a secondary trauma."

Other experts pointed out that some families may have told authorities that they wished to receive news via text. Both Merritt Schreiber, the director of psychological programs for the University of California Irvine's Center for Disaster Medical Services, and Robin Goodman, a psychologist with A Caring Hand bereavement services in New York City, explained that it's not uncommon for survivors to pre-authorize such communications, partly because it allows families to learn news before reading or hearing it in mass media.

"And the complexity of this situation is kind of unique," Schreiber added.

Still, said Kenneth Doka, a professor at the College of New Rochelle and the senior consultant to the Hospice Foundation of America, despite the logistical challenges of families being in China, Malaysia and elsewhere, "I can't think of a worse way to do it. At least they should have gotten a phone call from a person."

Exactly how this method of notification will affect survivors in the long term is unknown. In-person compassion is always preferable, Schreiber said, but even with it, “the loss is still there."

James Halpern, who responded to the Sandy Hook school shootings and the recent Harlem gas explosion, teared up when contacted by NBCNews and told of the text message notification.

People whose loved ones are victims of disasters and tragedies experience a "shattering of fundamental assumptions about themselves and the world when they get this information that somebody you love has died in a crash or some other disaster," Halpern said. "That kind of trauma is certainly not helped with a text message."

China families receive text message from Malaysia Airlines
China families received this text message from Malaysia Airlines: "We deeply regret that we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and that none of those on board have survived. As you will hear in the next hour, from Malaysia's Prime Minister, we must now accept all evidence suggests the plane went down in the Southern Indian Ocean."

Survivors have questions — many questions. How was the conclusion made? Who made it? What does it mean? Are authorities sure? What happens now? What do I do? A text leaves no opportunity to ask such questions or to vent.

This is especially important given the miscommunication surrounding MH 370. As a representative of Chinese families said in a statement released Monday, "since the disappearance, they have lied and hid the truth...."

The representative went on to accuse authorities of delays that, families believe, may have cost lives. A text does nothing to help soothe those kinds of feelings or engender trust.

On the other hand, the mere presence of another person can "offer warmth and comfort" said Halpern, director of the New Paltz institute.

"A personal touch is a first step" in recovery, Vermeulen explained. "It's a reminder that 'I have lost everything, yet this person is here being kind to me, talking to me, paying attention to my reactions. So the entire world is not in chaos even though my world is.'"

First published March 24th 2014, 5:10 pm

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Reply #132 posted 03/25/14 5:24am

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sad awww no. i was really hoping this story wouldn't end like this. r.i.p pray rose

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