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Reply #60 posted 03/12/14 7:34pm

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Idk how legit this is... probably not very. Since, i haven't heard of it till now. And the story came out 13 hours ago.

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Oil Rig Worker: 'I Saw the Malaysia Airlines Plane Come Down'

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A member of Indonesian National Search and Rescue Agency (BASARNAS) uses a binocular to scan the horizon during a search operation for the missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 conducted on the waters of the Strait of Malacca off Sumatra island, Indonesia, Wednesday, March 12, 2014.

Image: Heri Juanda/Associated Press

An oil rig worker working off the south-eastern coast of Vietnam claims to have witnessed the crash of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane.

In a email sent to his employer, which was acquired, confirmed, and then shared by the ABC journalist Bob Woodruff, the man says, "I believe I saw the Malaysian Airlines plane come down. The timing is right."

Vietnamese officials reportedly confirmed they got the letter, but found nothing in the water.

He describes seeing what he believes to be the plane burning — in one piece — at high altitude, flying perpendicular to the standard plane routes that cross over the area. "From when I first saw the burning (plane) until the flames went out (still at high altitude) was 10-15 seconds. There was no lateral movement, so it was either coming toward our location, stationary, or going away from our location," he writes.

Authorities expanded the search area for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane to 27,000 square miles on Wednesday after reports that flight 370 may have changed directions before disappearing from radar.

Search teams initially combed over the waters between Malaysia and Vietnam for any clues as to what may have happened to the missing aircraft that was carrying 239 people. However, a source inside the Malaysian military said Tuesday that the plane switched directions and headed west, prompting search teams to look in a whole new direction.


The map above highlights the search area, as of March 11, for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight.

Malaysian air force chief Gen. Rodzali Daud reportedly said military radar had spotted the jet over the Strait of Malacca. Hours later, however, Malaysian authorities are now casting doubt on this theory after Daud retracted his report, saying, "I wish to state that I did not make any such statements."

Daud's waffling seems to be part of a trend in the search for flight 370. Every lead that Malaysian authorities have chased has turned up nothing but confusion. This is partly why Phan Quy Tieu, Vietnam's vice minister of transportation, told reporters on Wednesday that the country was pulling back on its hunt until Malaysia had something solid to go on from here. So far, he said, the information provided is "insufficient."

Meanwhile, The New York Times reports that Daud on Wednesday said Malaysia's air force is still "examining and analyzing all possibilities as regards to the airliner's flight paths subsequent to its disappearance."

But while Vietnam is scaling back, Japan and Indonesia are ramping up efforts. Eight members of a Japanese search team arrived in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday to prepare for the arrival of two C-130 transport aircraft of the Air Self-Defense Force and two P-3C patrol planes of the Maritime Self-Defense Force. Indonesian authorities deployed its search mission over the Strait of Malacca as well.

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Indonesian Air Force crewmen of a Boeing 737 "Surveiller" maritime patrol aircraft of the 5th Air Squadron "Black Mermaids" pray prior to a search operation for the missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 that will be conducted the Strait of Malacca, at Suwondo air base in Medan, North Sumatra, Indonesia, Wednesday, March 12, 2014.

Image: Binsar Bakkara/Associated Press

Earlier this week, Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar scrubbed one of the more promising leads that the plane's disappearance may have been tied to two passengers who were traveling on stolen passports. He said 18-year-old Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad and Delavar Seyed Mohammadreza, 29, both of whom are Iranian, boarded the Malaysia Airlines flight with stolen passports from Austria and Italy. However, authorities believe they were migrating to Europe and have no terror links.

Days later, the search is still at square one, and the families of the missing passengers are demanding answers from Malayasian authorities, who, they believe, have more information than they're sharing. Their anxiety escalated earlier this week after they discovered their missing loved ones' phones were still ringing when they called.

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Chinese relatives of passengers aboard a missing Malaysia Airlines plane wait for the latest news inside a hotel room set aside for relatives or friends of passengers aboard the missing airplane in Beijing, China Wednesday, March 12, 2014.

Image: Andy Wong/Associated Press

Nineteen families signed a joint statement, delivered to Malaysia Airlines, asking for an explanation. Why could they get through to their family members’ phones but not hear anything? However, despite hearing what they think is a connection, experts say that ringing doesn't mean... completed.

"Family members over there are hearing the [ring] tone and they are hoping, but this is not a sign of anything. This is just how the networks work," wireless analyst Jeff Kagan told Mashable.

Malaysia Airlines flight 370 was at cruising altitude, around 35,000 feet, when it dropped from radar on March 7 with no signal from pilots, which is almost unheard of in the aviation world. Authorities believe it may have disintegrated in mid-flight, but no wreckage has been recovered after a widespread search. It's extremely rare for an aircraft to suddenly vanish, without warning, during cruising altitude, as most airplane accidents occur during takeoff or landing.


This map shows some of the more deadly plane crashes that have occurred as the result of an event that happened during cruising altitude. Click on the plane icons to expand the information. Note that the map is not a complete list.

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Reply #61 posted 03/13/14 11:23am

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I think the U.S. Navy/CIA know where this plane crashed but r staying mum in lieu of disclosing imaging capabilities.

IG Google can EASILY spy summin as small as A motorcycle in N.Y....a Plane...the NAVY and /or the CIA know where it b.
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Reply #62 posted 03/13/14 12:11pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

I think the U.S. Navy/CIA know where this plane crashed but r staying mum in lieu of disclosing imaging capabilities. IG Google can EASILY spy summin as small as A motorcycle in N.Y....a Plane...the NAVY and /or the CIA know where it b.

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Reply #63 posted 03/13/14 2:04pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

I think the U.S. Navy/CIA know where this plane crashed but r staying mum in lieu of disclosing imaging capabilities. IG Google can EASILY spy summin as small as A motorcycle in N.Y....a Plane...the NAVY and /or the CIA know where it b.



What for??? If it gets found, if at all, you can bet it would hit the news with the swiftness. And assuming if there were images, you can bet those would be all over the news too.

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Reply #64 posted 03/13/14 4:03pm

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luv4u said:



BobGeorge909 said:


I think the U.S. Navy/CIA know where this plane crashed but r staying mum in lieu of disclosing imaging capabilities. IG Google can EASILY spy summin as small as A motorcycle in N.Y....a Plane...the NAVY and /or the CIA know where it b.



What for??? If it gets found, if at all, you can bet it would hit the news with the swiftness. And assuming if there were images, you can bet those would be all over the news too.




With only 1 american aboard, the CIA and/or D.O.D is not going to sell out the technical capabilities the u.s. has for that....IMO. Never show your hand. Maybe they don't know...but I think they do.


If they can find a couple missile tube....big missile tubes.... In the jungles of Cuba in the 50's...I project that imaging today can locate some plane parts and debris from a friggin 777. At the same time...the CIA don't wanna let the world know they can count Lindsay lohans freckles from space.
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Reply #65 posted 03/13/14 5:06pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

luv4u said:



What for??? If it gets found, if at all, you can bet it would hit the news with the swiftness. And assuming if there were images, you can bet those would be all over the news too.

With only 1 american aboard, the CIA and/or D.O.D is not going to sell out the technical capabilities the u.s. has for that....IMO. Never show your hand. Maybe they don't know...but I think they do. If they can find a couple missile tube....big missile tubes.... In the jungles of Cuba in the 50's...I project that imaging today can locate some plane parts and debris from a friggin 777. At the same time...the CIA don't wanna let the world know they can count Lindsay lohans freckles from space.


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Reply #66 posted 03/13/14 5:25pm

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I haven't read all the posts, but I have never seen or heard the word "hijack" used in possible scenarios. Isn't that a possibility? Last I saw on the news they were reporting that the plane had veered off course and was headed somewhere toward the opposite direction of its intended flight path. Either that or this is a case of real life LOST. confused And of course it could be at the bottom of some ocean, and it's just going to take some time to find it, if ever.

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Reply #67 posted 03/13/14 6:57pm

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noimageatall said:

babynoz said:



Thanks. For the life of me I couldn't firgure out why they can't find this big ass, expensive aircraft. I didn't know there was that much expense involved in state of the art tracking.

It's always down to money.


nod Always...


I was listening to a news commentator earlier today, stating that there is something 3billion airline passengers a year...and that to upgrade all planes to satellite technology would "only" cost like $2billion.

NOT FOR NOTHING...but think about this; 3 billion passengers a year. That is tens of millions of flights a year (one site I looked at stated that there are 9million flights in the USA alone!).

Now, ONE flight goes missing. Mysterious circumstances involved. Safeguards either ignored, disbaled, or both.

That's not cause for a $2billion investment IMO.

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Reply #68 posted 03/13/14 7:04pm

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Shyra said:

I haven't read all the posts, but I have never seen or heard the word "hijack" used in possible scenarios. Isn't that a possibility? Last I saw on the news they were reporting that the plane had veered off course and was headed somewhere toward the opposite direction of its intended flight path. Either that or this is a case of real life LOST. confused And of course it could be at the bottom of some ocean, and it's just going to take some time to find it, if ever.


That was also discussed in the same newscast.
There is definitely talk of the cockpit being breached. However, 6 days have passed and no one has come forth to claim responsibility. If it was a hijacking then where is the ransom demand?
One theory is that perhaps a new type of detonation device was being tested, and the terrorists don't want to show their hand until the "real" show is executed.
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Reply #69 posted 03/13/14 7:34pm

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PurpleJedi said:

noimageatall said:


nod Always...


I was listening to a news commentator earlier today, stating that there is something 3billion airline passengers a year...and that to upgrade all planes to satellite technology would "only" cost like $2billion.

NOT FOR NOTHING...but think about this; 3 billion passengers a year. That is tens of millions of flights a year (one site I looked at stated that there are 9million flights in the USA alone!).

Now, ONE flight goes missing. Mysterious circumstances involved. Safeguards either ignored, disbaled, or both.

That's not cause for a $2billion investment IMO.

Agreed, It's not even an improvment that is about saving lives or improving the safety of the aircraft. It's about being able to locate wreckage which, don't get me wrong, is VERY important when looking through a topical lense and considering the families need for answers but in the bigger picture, considering such an extermely rare and anomolus occurance probably not a prudent outlay.

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Reply #70 posted 03/13/14 11:03pm

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I think it was an explosion in the chemical distribution tanks used to dumb down the population and keep us all in the dark until one day the lizard people from the centre of the earth rise up and take over, paving the way for the alien spacecraft on the dark side of the moon to arrive and destroy us all on behalf of the Zionist overlords!
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Reply #71 posted 03/14/14 7:19am

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lust said:

I think it was an explosion in the chemical distribution tanks used to dumb down the population and keep us all in the dark until one day the lizard people from the centre of the earth rise up and take over, paving the way for the alien spacecraft on the dark side of the moon to arrive and destroy us all on behalf of the Zionist overlords!


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Reply #72 posted 03/14/14 7:37am

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PurpleJedi said:

Shyra said:

I haven't read all the posts, but I have never seen or heard the word "hijack" used in possible scenarios. Isn't that a possibility? Last I saw on the news they were reporting that the plane had veered off course and was headed somewhere toward the opposite direction of its intended flight path. Either that or this is a case of real life LOST. confused And of course it could be at the bottom of some ocean, and it's just going to take some time to find it, if ever.


That was also discussed in the same newscast.
There is definitely talk of the cockpit being breached. However, 6 days have passed and no one has come forth to claim responsibility. If it was a hijacking then where is the ransom demand?
One theory is that perhaps a new type of detonation device was being tested, and the terrorists don't want to show their hand until the "real" show is executed.
shrug


This crossed my mind. And folks gotta eat too.

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Reply #73 posted 03/14/14 10:13pm

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HIJACKED! Told ya. I suspected this from the very first when they claimed the plane was missing. Plus, I think the Malaysian government officials knew it and were withholding the information.

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Reply #74 posted 03/14/14 11:04pm

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It just was confirmed on the news that the plane was indeed hijacked.

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Reply #75 posted 03/14/14 11:08pm

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http://www.komonews.com/n...31131.html

No motive has been established and no demands have been made known, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media. The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory.

"It is conclusive," he said.

He said evidence that led to the conclusion were signs that the plane's communications were switched off deliberately, data about the flight path and indications the plane was steered in a way to avoid detection by radar.

The Boeing 777's communication with the ground was severed just under one hour into a flight March 8 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Malaysian officials previously have said radar data suggest it may have turned back toward and crossed over the Malaysian peninsula after setting out on a northeastern path toward the Chinese capital.

Earlier, an American official told The Associated Press that investigators are examining the possibility of "human intervention" in the plane's disappearance, adding it may have been "an act of piracy."

While other theories are still being examined, the U.S. official said key evidence suggesting human intervention is that contact with the Boeing 777's transponder stopped about a dozen minutes before a messaging system on the jet quit. Such a gap would be unlikely in the case of an in-flight catastrophe.

The Malaysian official said only a skilled aviator could navigate the plane the way it was flown after its last confirmed location over the South China Sea. The official said it had been established with a "more than 50 percent" degree of certainty that military radar had picked up the missing plane after it dropped off civilian radar.

Why anyone would want to do this is unclear. Malaysian authorities and others will be urgently investigating the backgrounds of the two pilots and 10 crew members, as well the 227 passengers on board.

Some experts have said that pilot suicide may be the most likely explanation for the disappearance, as was suspected in a SilkAir crash during a flight from Singapore to Jakarta in 1997 and an EgyptAir flight in 1999.

A massive international search effort began initially in the South China Sea where the plane's transponders stopped transmitting. It has since been expanded onto the other side of the Malay peninsula up into the Andaman Sea and into the Indian Ocean.

The plane had enough fuel to fly for at least five hours after its last know location, meaning a vast swath of South and Southeast Asia would be within its reach. Investigators are analyzing radar and satellite data from around the region to try and pinpoint its final location, something that will be vital to hopes of finding the plane, and answering the mystery of what happened to it.

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Reply #76 posted 03/14/14 11:38pm

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^^^^^^ tried to reply with quote but as usual the org formatting is all jacked up. mad mad

Anyway...wow-- eek So where the hell is the plane and the passengers???? sad

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Reply #77 posted 03/15/14 12:41am

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noimageatall said:

^^^^^^ tried to reply with quote but as usual the org formatting is all jacked up. mad mad

Anyway...wow-- eek So where the hell is the plane and the passengers???? sad

I read a news report that said it's a possibility it MAY have landed eek

poor families, renewed hope that may come to nothing sad

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Reply #78 posted 03/15/14 12:50am

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noimageatall said:

^^^^^^ tried to reply with quote but as usual the org formatting is all jacked up. mad mad

Anyway...wow-- eek So where the hell is the plane and the passengers???? sad

I read a news report that said it's a possibility it MAY have landed eek

poor families, renewed hope that may come to nothing sad

I know those families are hoping for a miracle. My question now is since the plane is NOT underwater are all tracking devices aboard disabled? confuse

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Reply #79 posted 03/15/14 2:31am

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This story is already making the rounds...someone on cable news even referenced it. I feel for those families,


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Reply #80 posted 03/15/14 2:36am

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noimageatall said:

ZombieKitten said:

I read a news report that said it's a possibility it MAY have landed eek

poor families, renewed hope that may come to nothing sad

I know those families are hoping for a miracle. My question now is since the plane is NOT underwater are all tracking devices aboard disabled? confuse

Did they say it's definitely not underwater? How could they know this if they don't know where it is?

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Reply #81 posted 03/15/14 2:38am

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nd33 said:

noimageatall said:

I know those families are hoping for a miracle. My question now is since the plane is NOT underwater are all tracking devices aboard disabled? confuse

Did they say it's definitely not underwater? How could they know this if they don't know where it is?

They didn't say...I just assumed if it was hijacked they landed somewhere. boxed Just trying to be optimistic. sad

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Reply #82 posted 03/15/14 7:58am

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^^^^ That bullshit didn't tell me nothing. Just people giving families false hope. rolleyes I'm sorry but I'm not buying it. AT ALL!

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Reply #83 posted 03/15/14 8:32am

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^^^^ That bullshit didn't tell me nothing. Just people giving families false hope. rolleyes I'm sorry but I'm not buying it. AT ALL!

the plane being landed someplace is becoming more and more of a rational idea. Some mainstream reports are even suggesting it.

I said it early this week. But even if it was it is just as likely that they killed all the passengers. If they want a jumbo jet then they would not necessarily want the people.

In other words the question Where is the plane may not have the same answer as what was the fate of the people.


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Reply #84 posted 03/15/14 3:15pm

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My prayers to all the famililes suffering in anguish over their missing loved ones right now.

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I can only HOPE against hope that this was indeed some botched hijacking and that the jet is safe somewhere with the passengers. But deep inside I tend to believe that if it was a botched hijacking, the jet is in the bottom of the ocean somewhere.

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Reply #85 posted 03/15/14 5:31pm

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So now they're thinking the pilots were involved? neutral




Sat March 15, 2014 Washington (CNN) -- U.S. intelligence officials are leaning toward the theory that "those in the cockpit" -- the pilots of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 -- were deliberately responsible for the mysterious disappearance of the commercial jetliner, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the latest thinking told CNN on Saturday.



The revelation followed news that Malaysian authorities searched the home of the lead pilot, a move that came the same day that Prime Minister Najib Razak told reporters the plane veered off course due to apparent deliberate action taken by somebody on board.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Timmy84 said:

^^^^ That bullshit didn't tell me nothing. Just people giving families false hope. rolleyes I'm sorry but I'm not buying it. AT ALL!

the plane being landed someplace is becoming more and more of a rational idea. Some mainstream reports are even suggesting it.

I said it early this week. But even if it was it is just as likely that they killed all the passengers. If they want a jumbo jet then they would not necessarily want the people.

In other words the question Where is the plane may not have the same answer as what was the fate of the people.


The people are more valuable alive then the plane is worth for it's alleged pirates.

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Reply #87 posted 03/15/14 8:09pm

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stuff of nightmares sad

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This entire fiasco is insane. nuts First it disappeared. Then it crashed in the ocean. Then someone reported they saw it crash. Then certain 'unknowns' turned off all tracking systems and they say it was hijacked...now it's the pilots who are suspected. I swear I don't think anyone knows what the hell is going on. confused disbelief

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Reply #89 posted 03/15/14 10:50pm

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This entire fiasco is insane. nuts First it disappeared. Then it crashed in the ocean. Then someone reported they saw it crash. Then certain 'unknowns' turned off all tracking systems and they say it was hijacked...now it's the pilots who are suspected. I swear I don't think anyone knows what the hell is going on. confused disbelief

confused i know! my friend in Brazil who had someone they knew on the plane. As i mentioned earlier... it's just bringing her more pain. The families too i'm sure confused literally it's a new thing everyday. Today it's terroism shrug

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