Oh yeah, can't live withhout AdBlock plus. The guys behind that one should get a Nobel price.

edit - I mean "prize".

[Edited 1/10/14 12:10pm]

LayzieKiddZ said:

JoeTyler said:

[Edited 1/9/14 12:59pm]

Look I cant be bothered to explain every single thing, youll have to know your own info about things, it wasnt just Water Gate, it was domestic spying.

You might think its ok for someone to break the law, but the fact its never ok for someone to do it. It is illegal for human rights and the constitution to be violated by anyone. The constitution was formed so that there isnt tyranny like there was in England, formed by the people for the people, not government.

To say the very constitution is a silly outdated thing is like saying eating nutritionally is silly because 400 years ago they found it was to be productive. Personal human rights and equality is never an outdated thing.

You have to educate yourself, you cant go unknowingly and go along with anything thrown your way without ever looking at it. Its one thing to know what youre talking about and having an opinion and another to ridicule others without having known the most basic of things and telling them to "wake up".

Which is obvious by how this country has gone to the ground and Obama does has one the lowest approval rating. Any one with common sense knows the USA is being run to the ground. Either way I've spent enough of my time talking about this.

you look terribly nervous about TRYING (not proving) to prove that the people who argue with you are completely misinformed (or stupid); also, you keep using SILLY examples

overall, the typical attitude of a 21 years old, congratulations

I'm done with you too, btw...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

Firefox is my web-browser, my search engine Duck Duck Go, with numerous add add-ons. I use a proxy and I pay a yearly fee for an email account. Goggle is only on one computer and I only use if I want to access YouTube. I don't use cloud services, I've created my own cloud system. One cloud system I can access anywhere in the world, the other is in house. Four out of six computer use a Linux distros. All of my shit is encrypted on my end, I don't rely on any service provider, to do it for me.

For me the issues goes beyond the NSA spying; its about how Internet services are stripping away our privacy and creating a 24/7 data collection about our lives. People act as if they or we can't live without the Internet, we can. At that, there are alternatives to the major Internet providers and the services they offer. Goggle, Facebook, Microsoft only make billions of dollars because they have millions of customers, we do have choices.

PRISM ` BREAK

Best Distro for Privacy Protection

Free GNU/ Linux Distors, free of propetier software

P.S. If you want to change to Linux, feel free to org me about any questions you have.

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[Edited 1/11/14 0:54am]

TD3 said:

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

Firefox is my web-browser, my search engine Duck Duck Go, with numerous add add-ons. I use a proxy and I pay a yearly fee for an email account. Goggle is only on one computer and I only use if I want to access YouTube. I don't use cloud services, I've created my own cloud system. One cloud system I can access anywhere in the world, the other is in house. Four out of six computer use a Linux distros. All of my shit is encrypted on my end, I don't rely on any service provider, to do it for me.

For me the issues goes beyond the NSA spying; its about how Internet services are stripping away our privacy and creating a 24/7 data collection about our lives. People act as if they or we can't live without the Internet, we can. At that, there are alternatives to the major Internet providers and the services they offer. Goggle, Facebook, Microsoft only make billions of dollars because they have millions of customers, we do have choices.

PRISM ` BREAK

Best Distro for Privacy Protection

Free GNU/ Linux Distors, free of propetier software

P.S. If you want to change to Linux, feel free to org me about any questions you have.

==================

Exactly. And I also have to mention that they already have a 24/7/365 data collection of all mobile phones (including smartphones!) conversations AND text messages. Sometimes people forget that mobile phones & tablets are computers too.

[Edited 1/15/14 5:18am]

JoeTyler said:

funny how people are still terrified about virus and security

the LAST time a virus truly messed up with my computer was in 2007, and that's because I had, at that time, Explorer-WinXP-and free version of the McAfee antivirus...

oh, and privacy?? DON'T GIVE A DAMN, I have nothing to hide, I'm no pedo, I'm no terrorist, I'm no criminal, the gov can take a free look at my desktop anytime: they won't find anything worth their time...

[Edited 1/9/14 8:04am]

But people can still get tricked by supposed good sites and get malicious stuff passed through and it'd fuck up your computer for a minute until you can find some way to stop the malware from spreading further. As for privacy, if you read some reports, there's a lot of folks who won't buy that nothing to hide excuse. Go to P&R, no one's a friend of NSA.

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

funny how people are still terrified about virus and security

the LAST time a virus truly messed up with my computer was in 2007, and that's because I had, at that time, Explorer-WinXP-and free version of the McAfee antivirus...

oh, and privacy?? DON'T GIVE A DAMN, I have nothing to hide, I'm no pedo, I'm no terrorist, I'm no criminal, the gov can take a free look at my desktop anytime: they won't find anything worth their time...

[Edited 1/9/14 8:04am]

But people can still get tricked by supposed good sites and get malicious stuff passed through and it'd fuck up your computer for a minute until you can find some way to stop the malware from spreading further. As for privacy, if you read some reports, there's a lot of folks who won't buy that nothing to hide excuse. Go to P&R, no one's a friend of NSA.

Trojans viruses are THE worst! I remember during the height of the Microsoft's Windows XP era that it was a royal pain in the ass trying to clean my desktop's hard drive knowing that Trojan viruses were hiding between files.

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

But people can still get tricked by supposed good sites and get malicious stuff passed through and it'd fuck up your computer for a minute until you can find some way to stop the malware from spreading further. As for privacy, if you read some reports, there's a lot of folks who won't buy that nothing to hide excuse. Go to P&R, no one's a friend of NSA.

Trojans viruses are THE worst! I remember during the height of the Microsoft's Windows XP era that it was a royal pain in the ass trying to clean my desktop's hard drive knowing that Trojan viruses were hiding between files.

really

I don't wanna look like a smartass, but that's sooooo mid '00s

a trojan/malware has NOT entered my computer since 2010...and hell I use Windows

JoeTyler said:

TonyVanDam said:

Trojans viruses are THE worst! I remember during the height of the Microsoft's Windows XP era that it was a royal pain in the ass trying to clean my desktop's hard drive knowing that Trojan viruses were hiding between files.

really

I don't wanna look like a smartass, but that's sooooo mid '00s

a trojan/malware has NOT entered my computer since 2010...and hell I use Windows

Most likely because you stop downloading softwares (READ: "crackwares") in 2010.

[Edited 1/15/14 22:57pm]

WIN-XP had always been vulnerable to worms, Trojans, and everything in between. Java has always been a hot mess. We know now Microsoft in many cases were aware of their OS systems vulnerabilities and allowed them to stay open so the government could snoop. But this also allowed hackers to do their dastardly deeds. Some folks are going to learn the hard after the April deadline for ending updates/services for XP.

At the end of Microsoft's OS, the sequence of those last updates are very important., its best they are done in the order they were released. To skip one or two and then download others has the potential of cause some folks some drama.

As far as the mantra... "I don't have anything to hide". History? Recent Current Events? Maybe?

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[Edited 1/15/14 19:48pm]

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

But people can still get tricked by supposed good sites and get malicious stuff passed through and it'd fuck up your computer for a minute until you can find some way to stop the malware from spreading further. As for privacy, if you read some reports, there's a lot of folks who won't buy that nothing to hide excuse. Go to P&R, no one's a friend of NSA.

Trojans viruses are THE worst! I remember during the height of the Microsoft's Windows XP era that it was a royal pain in the ass trying to clean my desktop's hard drive knowing that Trojan viruses were hiding between files.

Some viruses find a way of getting inside computers. I was shocked it never got inside my laptop or even my last desktop. Definitely avoided one on this laptop that my bro rented to me.

TonyVanDam said:

TD3 said:

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

Firefox is my web-browser, my search engine Duck Duck Go, with numerous add add-ons. I use a proxy and I pay a yearly fee for an email account. Goggle is only on one computer and I only use if I want to access YouTube. I don't use cloud services, I've created my own cloud system. One cloud system I can access anywhere in the world, the other is in house. Four out of six computer use a Linux distros. All of my shit is encrypted on my end, I don't rely on any service provider, to do it for me.

For me the issues goes beyond the NSA spying; its about how Internet services are stripping away our privacy and creating a 24/7 data collection about our lives. People act as if they or we can't live without the Internet, we can. At that, there are alternatives to the major Internet providers and the services they offer. Goggle, Facebook, Microsoft only make billions of dollars because they have millions of customers, we do have choices.

PRISM ` BREAK

Best Distro for Privacy Protection

Free GNU/ Linux Distors, free of propetier software

P.S. If you want to change to Linux, feel free to org me about any questions you have.

==================

Exactly. And I also have to mention that they already have a 24/7/365 data collection of all mobile phones (including smartphones!) conversations AND text messages. Sometimes people forget that mobile phones & tablets are computers too.

[Edited 1/15/14 5:18am]

I'll tell you something Tony, I've have never been in love with the phone, NEVER. That's the first thing I got rid of when I retired. So long fuckin good-bye. Needless to say , you can't call me because I don't have a cell to call. People who love me know, unless you have something relevant to say don't call me. You are welcome to my home anytime but don't call be about "whatever."

I'm think I'm getting like Timmy anti -technology.

Seriously. We have choices and I'm slowly but surely putting distance between Goggle, Microsoft (some degree Apple) and their products and services. So far I haven't missed much...

TD3 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Exactly. And I also have to mention that they already have a 24/7/365 data collection of all mobile phones (including smartphones!) conversations AND text messages. Sometimes people forget that mobile phones & tablets are computers too.

[Edited 1/15/14 5:18am]

I'll tell you something Tony, I've have never been in love with the phone, NEVER. That's the first thing I got rid of when I retired. So long fuckin good-bye. Needless to say , you can't call me because I don't have a cell to call. People who love me know, unless you have something relevant to say don't call me. You are welcome to my home anytime but don't call be about "whatever."

I'm think I'm getting like Timmy anti -technology.

Seriously. We have choices and I'm slowly but surely putting distance between Goggle, Microsoft (some degree Apple) and their products and services. So far I haven't missed much...

Too bad I still need my cell phone. But at least I've changed my mind about buying a smartphone. And whenever I buy a tablet, I will install Firefox OS on it.