NDRU said:

Getting back to the basics of the question: Doesn't "saving yourself" really only apply to intercourse? I thought that other kinds of acts were ok in this kind of "not before marriage" scenario

Yeah, what NDRU said!

Tittypants said:

I for damn sure wouldn't want that. But, I guess if an experienced guy really is willing to wait, you must be something damn special for him to wait on . I will say that he may get to a point where he'll get tired of waiting, so I hope you're familiar with other forms of sex that don't involve penetration. Hand-jobs, oral sex, thigh fucking......stuff like that. Don't be surprised if you hear the old "Let me just stick the tip in", or the "Just give me, like, 3 pumps" excuses.

Baby, I want to wait until we get married.

KidaDynamite said:

Tittypants said:

I for damn sure wouldn't want that. But, I guess if an experienced guy really is willing to wait, you must be something damn special for him to wait on . I will say that he may get to a point where he'll get tired of waiting, so I hope you're familiar with other forms of sex that don't involve penetration. Hand-jobs, oral sex, thigh fucking......stuff like that. Don't be surprised if you hear the old "Let me just stick the tip in", or the "Just give me, like, 3 pumps" excuses.

Baby, I want to wait until we get married.

xpertluva said:

NDRU said:

Getting back to the basics of the question: Doesn't "saving yourself" really only apply to intercourse? I thought that other kinds of acts were ok in this kind of "not before marriage" scenario

I figure that's up to the individual. However, I feel that if you're going to cross certain lines, you may as well go all the way.

Definitely. But I can see valid reasons to avoid intercourse. It's more risky than other things

Tittypants said:

NDRU said:

Getting back to the basics of the question: Doesn't "saving yourself" really only apply to intercourse? I thought that other kinds of acts were ok in this kind of "not before marriage" scenario

Like anal.

Why a woman would be doing anal is beyond my understanding. No prostate no fun.

sexton said:

NDRU said:

Getting back to the basics of the question: Doesn't "saving yourself" really only apply to intercourse? I thought that other kinds of acts were ok in this kind of "not before marriage" scenario

Like anal.

exactly like anal. Every good Christinan woman knows this

tinaz said:

Im with LadyC here.. What is the point of making out and getting yourselves all worked up if you know you wont be going any further.. Thats called a tease...

Hey hey, I never said making out was against the rules. I just know that "foreplay" isn't the same
for everyone.

If you are trying to take some high road, or feel that your body is something that you only wish to
share with "the one," why would you be engaging in foreplay in the first place? It is called foreplay
for a reason. If you are licking and sucking and rubbing and riding on everything anyways...isn't that
defeating the purpose?

Some people still consider their virginity a "gift" (that sure as hell ain't me). I just don't understand
the people who make big statements about how it is supposed to be something treasured, something
you save for "the one," yet are still letting every other possible "one" rub their greedy little hands all
over their precious little gift. Hell, I might be the first one to open the gift, but it arrived pretty
banged up anyhow

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lazycrockett said:

Why a woman would be doing anal is beyond my understanding. No prostate no fun.

Not quite true.

lazycrockett said:

Why a woman would be doing anal is beyond my understanding. No prostate no fun.

i so disagree.

KidaDynamite said:

lazycrockett said:

Why a woman would be doing anal is beyond my understanding. No prostate no fun.

Not quite true.

LadyCasanova said:

tinaz said:

Im with LadyC here.. What is the point of making out and getting yourselves all worked up if you know you wont be going any further.. Thats called a tease...

Hey hey, I never said making out was against the rules. I just know that "foreplay" isn't the same
for everyone.

If you are trying to take some high road, or feel that your body is something that you only wish to
share with "the one," why would you be engaging in foreplay in the first place? It is called foreplay
for a reason. If you are licking and sucking and rubbing and riding on everything anyways...isn't that
defeating the purpose?

Some people still consider their virginity a "gift" (that sure as hell ain't me). I just don't understand
the people who make big statements about how it is supposed to be something treasured, something
you save for "the one," yet are still letting every other possible "one" rub their greedy little hands all
over their precious little gift. Hell, I might be the first one to open the gift, but it arrived pretty
banged up anyhow

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A tease is someone who hasn't been forthright and tells you after the fact that they are a virgin or are saving themselves for marriage... after everyone has gotten themselves all worked up. I don't think this is the case here.

I know couples who where virgins when they married, I know women who were virgins when they married (their mates weren't... virgins), these things still do occur. I've never met any women who wasn't a virgin marry a man who was... I guess this has happened. Even so I think its kinda naive to think in any case these people didn't have some hot and heavy make-out / heavy petting sessions. I've done my fair share of making out... there's BIG difference making out and bare-naked fucking, making love, whatever you wanna call it.

I've digressed.

For those men who I know who weren't virgins and their wives were, they waited. These guys waited foremost because they met the women for whom they wanted to spend the rest of their lives together and vise-verse. So, if both of you think you are both potential life partners, he'll stick around; if he doesn't want to wait or isn't interested in making a commitment he'll step... he will run. Have faith in what's important for you and your beliefs... cut yourself so slack if you change your mind about saving sex marriage isn't as important too.

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Yep. A relationship is more than sex. If I love her I would wait for as long as possible.

NDRU said:

Getting back to the basics of the question: Doesn't "saving yourself" really only apply to intercourse? I thought that other kinds of acts were ok in this kind of "not before marriage" scenario

That's basically what I'm really wanting to know . Thank you

TD3 said:

A tease is someone who hasn't been forthright and tells you after the fact that they are a virgin or are saving themselves for marriage... after everyone has gotten themselves all worked up. I don't think this is the case here.

I know couples who where virgins when they married, I know women who were virgins when they married (their mates weren't... virgins), these things still do occur. I've never met any women who wasn't a virgin marry a man who was... I guess this has happened. Even so I think its kinda naive to think in any case these people didn't have some hot and heavy make-out / heavy petting sessions. I've done my fair share of making out... there's BIG difference making out and bare-naked fucking, making love, whatever you wanna call it.

I've digressed.

For those men who I know who weren't virgins and their wives were, they waited. These guys waited foremost because they met the women for whom they wanted to spend the rest of their lives together and vise-verse. So, if both of you think you are both potential life partners, he'll stick around; if he doesn't want to wait or isn't interested in making a commitment he'll step... he will run. Have faith in what's important for you and your beliefs... cut yourself so slack if you change your mind that saving sex marriage isn't as important too.

You're awesome thank you .

Stymie said:

You'll see if he is for real if he waits.

And Gray, you can fix bad sex.

i dunno about that. you can't fix bad sex if the underlying issue is communication and lack of ability to trust. if a guy or gal cannot openup enough to tell his/her lover what getts them off, that is only fixable through therapy.

yes... if i really dug her

XxAxX said:

Stymie said:

You'll see if he is for real if he waits.

And Gray, you can fix bad sex.

i dunno about that. you can't fix bad sex if the underlying issue is communication and lack of ability to trust. if a guy or gal cannot openup enough to tell his/her lover what getts them off, that is only fixable through therapy.

Yeah but all this reiterates that it can be fixed, even if it in therapy.

Stymie said:

XxAxX said:

i dunno about that. you can't fix bad sex if the underlying issue is communication and lack of ability to trust. if a guy or gal cannot openup enough to tell his/her lover what getts them off, that is only fixable through therapy.

Yeah but all this reiterates that it can be fixed, even if it in therapy.

well, that's assuming that both partners want to attend therapy. i know a lot of women never climax during sex, but for some reason don't regard that as an issue and never reemdy the situation. likewise, guys who don't have an interest in taking the time to polish their skills, so to speak, may also be chronic cases. fixable doesn't mean 'fixable' sometimes. imo

XxAxX said:

92tilinfinity said:

XxAxX said:

Stymie said:

Yeah but all this reiterates that it can be fixed, even if it in therapy.

well, that's assuming that both partners want to attend therapy. i know a lot of women never climax during sex, but for some reason don't regard that as an issue and never reemdy the situation. likewise, guys who don't have an interest in taking the time to polish their skills, so to speak, may also be chronic cases. fixable doesn't mean 'fixable' sometimes. imo

my wife walked in on me the other day and screamed "what the hell are you doing??!!!"....... "polishing my skills honey... polishing my skills"

NDRU said:

92tilinfinity said:

That's basically what I'm really wanting to know . Thank you

You want to know if it's okay for you to do other things, or you want to know if doing other things is enough for a guy? In my opinion, the answer to both questions is "yes"

thanks