cborgman said:

i always wanted a new mutants movie. i love that group and would kill to write a movie version of that

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I've always fet that of all the X-books concepts, New Mutants would make for a great television franchise for Marvel. 90210 meets Buffy meets Heroes, etc.

HonestMan13 said:

sexton said:

My point is they have been together since the 70s. I'm not saying your comment about mutant relationships is 100% wrong, just that there is an exception.

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She started out dating Iceman then while her and Havok have been together they spent most of that time away from the X-Men and out of the story entirely and when they were in lead storylines they were either on opposite sides(She was possessed by Malice while Havok was an X-Man) or in different dimensions separated from each other. Havok also dumped her for a human nurse right after coming back from the dead. They are probably the only thing close to what Cyclops has been allowed to have in X-Men history.

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Banshee & Moira had a pretty solid thing going on. Until she died. Then he did.

errant said:

cborgman said:

i always wanted a new mutants movie. i love that group and would kill to write a movie version of that

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I've always fet that of all the X-books concepts, New Mutants would make for a great television franchise for Marvel. 90210 meets Buffy meets Heroes, etc.

oh, shit... you are right. that would make an incredible series.

though they would probably have to cut warlock. the CGI to do him would become cost prohibitive to do him on a TV series

cborgman said:

errant said:

I've always fet that of all the X-books concepts, New Mutants would make for a great television franchise for Marvel. 90210 meets Buffy meets Heroes, etc.

oh, shit... you are right. that would make an incredible series.

though they would probably have to cut warlock. the CGI to do him would become cost prohibitive to do him on a TV series

thats fine. he's one of those '80s concepts shoe-horned into the X-books concept that never really fit because he was his own concept with his own themes (see also: Longshot).

maybe they could mashup him and Cypher, to give Doug a visiual aspect when he "powers on" so that they are only spending that money at certain points instead of for an entire hour for a character in the background.

cborgman said:

errant said:

I've always fet that of all the X-books concepts, New Mutants would make for a great television franchise for Marvel. 90210 meets Buffy meets Heroes, etc.

oh, shit... you are right. that would make an incredible series.

though they would probably have to cut warlock. the CGI to do him would become cost prohibitive to do him on a TV series

Remember the Generation X TV movie? That was a similar concept.

sexton said:

cborgman said:

oh, shit... you are right. that would make an incredible series.

though they would probably have to cut warlock. the CGI to do him would become cost prohibitive to do him on a TV series

Remember the Generation X TV movie? That was a similar concept.

yes, well....

obviously it'd have to be better than this.

especially now that Marvel has its own studio. and people actually take these sorts of adaptations seriously.

errant said:

sexton said:

Remember the Generation X TV movie? That was a similar concept.

yes, well....

obviously it'd have to be better than this.

especially now that Marvel has its own studio. and people actually take these sorts of adaptations seriously.

Haha.

And then there was the Mutant X TV series. That was sorta X-Men meets 90210-ish:

sexton said:

errant said:

yes, well....

obviously it'd have to be better than this.

especially now that Marvel has its own studio. and people actually take these sorts of adaptations seriously.

Haha.

And then there was the Mutant X TV series. That was sorta X-Men meets 90210-ish:

always thought this was weird. I wonder why they even bothered to license the name. The concept and characters had absolutely nothing to do with Mutant X, the X-Men or Marvel.

just the title.

If they follow up X-Men First Class with XMFC: New Mutants, I wouldn't be mad. I thought First Class was a decent movie.

errant said:

Dauphin said:

cborgman said:

errant said:

thats fine. he's one of those '80s concepts shoe-horned into the X-books concept that never really fit because he was his own concept with his own themes (see also: Longshot).

maybe they could mashup him and Cypher, to give Doug a visiual aspect when he "powers on" so that they are only spending that money at certain points instead of for an entire hour for a character in the background.

i was always a little dissapointed that they didnt embrace the "douglock" thing more in the comics. good observation. that would make a much stronger storyline and a clever way of fixing the problem you should be writing... as a writer, i think you are preaching some smart shit [Edited 8/7/12 20:28pm]

should probably be an editor. God knows Marvel could use some decent ones.

solves the problem of Doug's powers being super-boring and non-visual as well.

Douglock was actually supposed to come back eventually. but Louise Simonson left and Rob Liefeld de-railed everything.

the version that showed up in the mid-'90s made me very, very sad.

really like what they're doing with him now. Poor Dead Dough was always one of my favorites.

I collect Marvel Comics. I tend to go 5 or 6 years before actually reading them. I have seen none of the films except Iron Man.

Black Panther/T'Challa

Luke Cage

Iron Man

Wolverine

are the titles I am completist about.

totally out of step with fashion and the latest style, the last thing that caught my eye was 1502?? becasue I liked the author from somewhere else.

errant said:

cborgman said:

i identified and had a wicked crush on doug as a kid, so yeah. it kind of killed me that they killed him off, partially for the self-identification of that char. i also always thought that that was a char that should have been gay rather than straight. that being said, i love that they chose collossus to be gay in the ultimate x-men. rather than pick a cerebral or asexual powered char to make gay, they chose the butchest (aside from logan) to make gay

I like how Doug's powers have been expanded since he returned to the team a few years ago. He can now read body language as well and was able to take out the whole New Mutants team by anticipating what moves they would do next in the fight. Badass.

sexton said:

cborgman said:

i identified and had a wicked crush on doug as a kid, so yeah. it kind of killed me that they killed him off, partially for the self-identification of that char. i also always thought that that was a char that should have been gay rather than straight. that being said, i love that they chose collossus to be gay in the ultimate x-men. rather than pick a cerebral or asexual powered char to make gay, they chose the butchest (aside from logan) to make gay

I like how Doug's powers have been expanded since he returned to the team a few years ago. He can now read body language as well and was able to take out the whole New Mutants team by anticipating what moves they would do next in the fight. Badass.

That's what I always liked about the New Mutants was the vast ways they could use their powers. With the right training Doug Ramsey could be on a level with Sage(Tessa) possibly.

HonestMan13 said:

sexton said:

I like how Doug's powers have been expanded since he returned to the team a few years ago. He can now read body language as well and was able to take out the whole New Mutants team by anticipating what moves they would do next in the fight. Badass.

That's what I always liked about the New Mutants was the vast ways they could use their powers. With the right training Doug Ramsey could be on a level with Sage(Tessa) possibly.

I miss Tessa. another favorite.

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Taking a leaf out of their chief's rival book, Marvel will reboot Hulk and Iron Man, to name two characters, this Nov. Check out the covers.

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I love all of the classic 60's marvel stories from Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko.

I just bought a bunch of trade paper backs from ebay yesterday. for about 40% off cover.

1 flat rate shipping of $5.00 for all.

vol 1-5 amazing spiderman issues 1-50

vol 1-5 fantastic four issues 1-50

vol 1 ironman -tales of suspense 20 issues

vol 1 capatin america -stales of suspense 20 issues

vol 1 dr strange - strange tales 20 issues

vol 1 incredible hulk 6 issues

vol 1-3 thor 30 issues

vol 1-2 daredevil 22 issues

vol 1 batgirl -new 52

vol 1 batman-detective- new 52

vol 2 amazing spiderman omnibus 32 issues

I have some of these originally but I love the collected editions with extras.

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HonestMan13 said:

sexton said:

I like how Doug's powers have been expanded since he returned to the team a few years ago. He can now read body language as well and was able to take out the whole New Mutants team by anticipating what moves they would do next in the fight. Badass.

That's what I always liked about the New Mutants was the vast ways they could use their powers. With the right training Doug Ramsey could be on a level with Sage(Tessa) possibly.

are there any that have skills that would be useless in a fight? and what do those ones end up doing for a living

ZombieKitten said:

HonestMan13 said:

That's what I always liked about the New Mutants was the vast ways they could use their powers. With the right training Doug Ramsey could be on a level with Sage(Tessa) possibly.

are there any that have skills that would be useless in a fight? and what do those ones end up doing for a living

yeah. Doug Ramsey (Cypher).

he has the ability to translate any language. he was always pretty-useless back in the pre-digital '80s. he's suddenly relevant. and still the one most likely to succeed in the real world

errant said:

ZombieKitten said:

are there any that have skills that would be useless in a fight? and what do those ones end up doing for a living

yeah. Doug Ramsey (Cypher).

he has the ability to translate any language. he was always pretty-useless back in the pre-digital '80s. he's suddenly relevant. and still the one most likely to succeed in the real world

that's super useful!

If I was an X-person I would be able to teleport and any time I needed to buy something, I could make exactly the right change in my pocket and hopeful that's not good for fighting, cause I would hate to be having to battle all the time

ZombieKitten said:

errant said:

yeah. Doug Ramsey (Cypher).

he has the ability to translate any language. he was always pretty-useless back in the pre-digital '80s. he's suddenly relevant. and still the one most likely to succeed in the real world

that's super useful!

If I was an X-person I would be able to teleport and any time I needed to buy something, I could make exactly the right change in my pocket and hopeful that's not good for fighting, cause I would hate to be having to battle all the time

your code-name: El Switch-O Change-O!

errant said:

ZombieKitten said:

that's super useful!

If I was an X-person I would be able to teleport and any time I needed to buy something, I could make exactly the right change in my pocket and hopeful that's not good for fighting, cause I would hate to be having to battle all the time

your code-name: El Switch-O Change-O!

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It's been a guarantee from the moment The Avengers opened that there would be a sequel, and as it went on to set the opening weekend record and easily become the year's biggest movie, that guarantee only got stronger. But it was only this week that we finally learned for sure that Joss Whedon would be back to write and direct the sequel-- a relief for anyone hoping the sequel could possibly live up to the greatness of the original.

But Whedon's role as writer/director, plus an assumed summer 2015 release date, is pretty much the only thing we know for sure about The Avengers 2…. or is it? There's been a ton of speculation all summer, and add that on top of the actual news we got from Comic Con last month, and it can be legitimately hard to keep track of what's happening and what isn't. So below we're running down all the major players we expect in The Avengers, plus a few who have been rumored or are actual possibilities. We'll catch you up on where each of them stand, what might happen to them between now and The Avengers 2 to affect that movie, and in a few cases, why they won't ever, ever be joining the team. Join us below as we set the record straight!

Joss Whedon

He's in! And not just to write and direct Avengers 2, but to develop a Marvel TV show and chime in on everything else the company does for the next three years. So by the time he's done, the Marvel Cinematic Universe could very easily be shaped in his image.

Iron Man

He'll be the first to return in a standalone film, with the Shane Black-directed Iron Man 3 coming May 3 next year. So far everything we know about that movie-- that Ben Kingsley is playing the villainous Mandarin, that Tony's Malibu house gets blown to bits-- doesn't suggest any link to The Avengers 2, probably because Iron Man 3 was written well before The Avengers came out. But next summer's movie will be your first chance to start looking for more concrete hints, since they'll have more than enough time to throw in a post-credits sequence that drops more Easter Eggs for fans.

Thor

Thor's also got a sequel coming up, with Thor: The Dark World coming to theaters November 8, 2013, directed by Game of Thrones veteran Alan Taylor. And once again, Thor's world seems to lead most directly to the villain the Avengers will face-- at the very end of The Avengers, we got a look at an alien named Thanos, whose quest for power was set up as a potential obstacle for the next movie. We don't yet know if Thanos will also factor into The Dark World-- the latest speculation points to someone else, but nobody knows anything for sure. But if that Avengers setup was indeed a hint at Avengers 2, Thor will once again be helping the team figure out how to fight a villain from an alien realm.

Captain America

He's set for his own movie, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, coming April 4, 2014, a year before Avengers 2's presumed 2015 release date. That title is a strong hint that the movie will see the return of Cap's friend Bucky Barnes (Sebastian Stan) as the villainous Winter Soldier, so expect Cap to be carrying around that baggage when he reteams with the Avengers. A much more wobbly rumor has Anthony Mackie potentially playing Falcon, a sidekick who gains his powers from the Cosmic Cube. Who knows if we'll see Falcon in Avengers 2-- very few side characters got to come along last time-- but he's definitely a potential added wrinkle.

Hulk

Poor Bruce Banner-- he was the only member of the Avengers whose preceding film didn't really tie into the movie, and he's still not set up for his own franchise, though you've got to expect one sooner or later. So we've heard basically nothing about the future of Hulk since The Avengers came out. At least we know Mark Ruffalo is definitely signed on for more movies, so we don't have to worry about any re-casting. But come on, Marvel fans! Pick up the slack on the Hulk speculation already!

Hawkeye

Like Hulk, Hawkeye isn't slated for a standalone movie just yet, though Jeremy Renner has expressed interest, and is also locked down to play the character for many Avengers movies to come. But aside from Renner sounding a little unhappy about Hawkeye's zombi-fication in The Avengers, we haven't heard a peep about the muscular archer. Maybe we can hope that Whedon has taken Renner's complaints to heart and is planning a bigger role for him next time around.

Ant Man

Probably the biggest question mark of all right now about Avengers 2. At Comic Con Edgar Wright confirmed at last that he's still working on an Ant Man movie, and showed off test footage that dazzled the crowd. But Marvel was very carefully not to announce any dates for the movie, which means it's pretty unlikely an Ant Man movie will be out there before Avengers 2. Will they use the sequel to introduce Hank Pym and then set him up for his own franchise? Seems pretty likely to us. But until some kind of casting announcement emerges we won't know for sure, and even then they could save it as some kind of post-credits surprise. Embrace the mystery! This one's going to be around a while.

The Wasp

The future of Janet Van Dyne, a.k.a. The Wasp, is entirely tied to the future of Ant-Man, and, as mentioned above, we still have no idea when an Ant-Man movie is going to be made. Nobody is talking about a solo Wasp movie and it doesn’t look like a Hank Pym storyline will be ready before The Avengers 2, so for now just wait patiently while Edgar Wright, Joe Cornish and Marvel Studios gets things ready.

Spider-Man

The truth is that there’s practically zero chance that Spider-Man will appear in The Avengers 2. Sony still has a grip on their rights to the character and that grip has only gotten tighter in the last couple months thanks to the release of The Amazing Spider-Man. That said, there have been two interesting developments in the last few weeks. For starters, Andrew Garfield, who starred in the last webhead film, was recently spotted carrying a couple Avengers comics, including at least one about Thanos. Latino Review also reported that there were some discussions between Marvel Studios and Sony about possibly letting OsCorp Tower take its place in the Manhattan skyline in The Avengers, but they ended up running out of time before a deal could be made. There’s nothing really concrete there, but it’s at least nice to know that the companies talk to one another.

Daredevil

The rights to Daredevil have been owned by 20th Century Fox for years now, but recent developments have suggested that it may not be long until the character is back with Marvel. While Fox is currently working to reboot the superhero franchise, possibly with Joe Carnahan at the helm, they only have until October 10th to start production, otherwise the rights go back to Marvel (which now looks very possible). Should the rights revert, the possibilities are endless. Marvel could start working on a solo franchise for the character and considering the Man Without Fear was a member of the New Avengers in the comics, he could potentially fit in with a new version of The Avengers somewhere down the line. Of course, this one is surrounded by question marks.

Black Panther

Things looked really good for Black Panther for a while, but for now it looks like we’re still a few years away from seeing the Wakanda king on the big screen. Prior to Comic Con there was a rumor that Black Panther would get his own solo film in 2014, but that was proved untrue when Marvel announced that The Guardians of the Galaxy would be taking the proposed spot on the release schedule. Marvel President Kevin Feige has talked about the potential of a Black Panther movie before so hope is still alive. He is considered by many to be one of the true members of The Avengers, but considering his complicated back story chances are he won’t be able to fit into The Avengers 2. Hopefully Marvel will get around to finally making his solo-movie happen and then we can have him in The Avengers 3.

Doctor Strange

The current status of Doctor Strange is actually quite similar to what is happening to Black Panther. In August of last year there was a report that said Thomas Donnelly and Joshua Oppenheimer had finished a script based around the master of magic and there were many whispers about Strange getting the solo movie in 2014, but now that spot has been filled. It wouldn’t be impossible for Strange to show up in The Avengers 2 or cameo in one of the other solo movies (like Black Widow and Hawkeye) did, but for now there’s no evidence that that’s the plan.

Guardians of the Galaxy

While people are still scratching their heads trying to figure out why Guardians of the Galaxy will be getting their own solo film, the deal is done so all that’s left is to learn as much about them as we possibly can. During this year’s San Diego Comic Con, Kevin Feige took the stage to announce that a Guardians of the Galaxy movie will be released on August 1, 2014 and that the line-up will include Star-Lord, Rocket Raccoon, Drax The Destroyer, Groot and Gamora. Chris McCoy was recently hired by Marvel to work on the script, and in that report we first learned details about the superheroes. What’s interesting about the project, however, is that we have no idea how it will link into The Avengers 2. There have been rumors going around that the Guardians could face off against Thanos in the solo movie before they enlist The Avengers to join them in The Avengers 2, but for now that’s just speculation.

Galactus and the Silver Surfer

Remember all those question marks we put around Daredevil? Well, take some of them and put them around Galactus and Silver Surfer as well. When it was revealed that Daredevil is running out of time to get into production, it was said that Fox reached out to Marvel for an extension on their contract, and Marvel said that they would grant the extension in return for the rights ...ver Surfer, who have always been packaged alongside the Fantastic Four. The request was strangely specific, and could be a real indication about what Marvel is planning for The Avengers 2. It has since been said that Fox has no interest in giving up those two characters, as they are also in the midst of rebooting The Fantastic Four with Chronicle director Josh Trank and don’t want to potentially hobble the future of that franchise. So, once again, we’ll have to wait and see.

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The Avengers 2: What We Know So Far

Author: Katey Rich & Eric Eisenberg

Galactus and the Silver Surfer

Remember all those question marks we put around Daredevil? Well, take some of them and put them around Galactus and Silver Surfer as well. When it was revealed that Daredevil is running out of time to get into production, it was said that Fox reached out to Marvel for an extension on their contract, and Marvel said that they would grant the extension in return for the rights ...ver Surfer, who have always been packaged alongside the Fantastic Four. The request was strangely specific, and could be a real indication about what Marvel is planning for The Avengers 2. It has since been said that Fox has no interest in giving up those two characters, as they are also in the midst of rebooting The Fantastic Four with Chronicle director Josh Trank and don’t want to potentially hobble the future of that franchise. So, once again, we’ll have to wait and see.

I always thought that since the actor who played Human Torch is now playing Captain America that any Fantastic 4 movies were a dead issue. Even if he does play both roles it kills any crossover potential.

I have to say Hope Summers has been a big disappointment. Too many X-Men took it on the chin for her since birth and she sides with the Avengers at the drop of a dime. They gave her too much freedom because she was trained by Cable but she's still just a kid and her choices have cost the X-Men too many times. They should've let Bishop have her!

Also when did Wolverine get so sanctimonious? He spends more time telling other mutants how they should live while running an assassin squad and doing more killing in his solo books.

May 1, 2015 is already locked in my calendar!!

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'Avengers 2' Release Date: Sequel Slated For May 1, 2015 Release

The wait is over, or just beginning: A release date for "The Avengers 2" has finally been revealed.

"The Avengers 2" is slated for a May 1, 2015, release date, Disney confirmed Thursday:

The Walt Disney Studios has announced a release date for Marvel Studios’ sequel to the biggest Super Hero blockbuster and third highest grossing film of all time, Marvel’s The Avengers. Joss Whedon returns to write and direct the UNTITLED MARVEL’S AVENGERS SEQUEL set for release May 1, 2015.

Several sources ran with rumors of the same date last week.

MTV News reported that all signs point to a May...15 release, with journalist Kara Warner explaining that "The Avengers 2" could not come out until all of Marvel's standalone films are complete. Marvel's schedule is booked until 2014. She also had inside information from a source who disclosed more about the studio's timeframe.

"Marvel has a very set agenda of what they want to do, they are already kind of ahead of the game [on the sequel] because they've got the guy that did it before doing it again and something tells me Joss already has the template [for the film]," an inside source told MTV News. "In terms of the time frame, I think that it is well in the works. ... It looks like the release date might be May 1, 2015, but that can change depending on people's schedules. The beauty of 'The Avengers' is that you've got so many people in this that even during the shoot if someone has to do another film they can just focus on [other characters]."

Entertainment Weekly reported on Aug. 7 that Joss Whedon had signed an exclusive deal with Marvel for film and television through June 2015. This deal includes his writing and ...engers 2." This could have been viewed as a tip-off as well.

OK, I was going to do my entire read list here, but it seemed a bit dickish (unintentionally, so ). I had to make the list because I knew I read a couple Marvel books, but wasn't sure which ones they were. Turns out it's two titles that I actually BUY (I read far more than I actually buy on a regular basis). They are...

Oz - Whatever Shanower/Young book is currently being released - Marvel

The Dark Tower (whatever mini-series is currently running) - Marvel

First look at the partial lineup of the Avengers in the Marvel Now era.

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