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Reply #120 posted 08/19/11 10:11am

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Kevin Nash is expected at Raw this Monday and will be a regular character going forward on WWE TV. Nash will be doing a program with CM Punk and for those wondering, yes, the plan is for the two to meet in the ring. The idea behind the program was to give Punk a major name to work with that would put him over.

The backstage reaction to the Punk-Nash back and forth Monday was that Punk got the better of Nash and that Nash’s comebacks came off too inside and antiquated in comparison. Nash did not receive a big reaction coming out on Raw and the feeling after the taping was that the company needed to do a stronger job of explaining to the current generation of fans who he was. Initially, that was not a concern due to the big pop he received at the Royal Rumble.

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Lawd, I was hoping this wouldn't end with a Punk/Nash match, but it seems that's where they're headed. *facepalm* Why, why, why??! They should just keep Nash as an enforcer and/or on-air character and MAYBE part of one 6-man tag match (though he wouldn't get tagged in lol ). That's it!! I can only see this match being a fuckin' dud! and why can't Nash feud with Cena and jacknife powerbomb HIS ass to hell and let Punk feud with ADR for the title?!! Why does Cena ALWAYS friggin' get title shots??!?! He's over enough where he obviously doesn't NEED the damn thing.

And also, isn't Punk insanely over already? Why or how would bringing Nash in help Punk in doing that when them damn little Jimmys didn't even know or care who he was last Monday on Raw?! God, these kids/Cena fans are ruining everything good about pro wrestling (in the WWE).

that's why i wanted 2 throw something at cena when he came into 2 the ring and talked about facing ADR i held my hands up saying WHERE IS CM PUNK? R TRUTH!! tired of cena and orton jumping ahead of the pack 2 get a title defense.

back in the day when trips made claim and flair made claims to being champions meant more than what it is now. if there is going 2 be a cena vs adr championship match, i'm going with ADR.

fuck why isn't the miz being talked about in the championship mix for that matter? i would rather see that then fucking cena.

but let's give the slight benefit of doubt here with nash and cm punk..MAKE THAT SHIT BRIEF! nash imo can't fuck with cm punk on the mic so the reactions 2 nash behind stage are nothing that he shouldn't have expected. he was weak going up against cm on the mic. the only one imo that can even come close 2 cm on the mic right now are the rock and jericho, maybe edge but that's the quality that cm needs 2 bash with. hopefully around survior series when the rock is "supposed" 2 make a appearance 2 fuck cena up that this involves cm punk regaining the title for a long period of time

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #121 posted 08/19/11 10:52am

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bboy87 said:

I was really young when Bash At The Beach '94 happened (about 7 years old) and I VIVIDLY remember watching it wondering "Where's Sting?" lol I didn't give a damn about Hogan even then lol

Looking back at WCW '94-95, it was a definite drop in quality in favor for old WWE faces being pushed.

They went from The Hollywood Blondes, Rick Rude, Sting, Ricky Steamboat, Dustin Rhodes, Arn Anderson and others to Hogan's bullshit. There was an episode of Nitro where Kevin Sullivan calls out his "Kill Hulkamania" troop and it was a bunch of cartoonish looking guys including The Zodiac/Bootyman/Brutus Beefcake/The Disciple, who I STILL don't understand got the push he did. He was a terrible wrestler and had the WORST finisher. Maybe he was sucking Hogan off like Linda alluded to recently lol

3. We all know that one of WCW's (specifically Eric Bishoff's) biggest f*** ups was firing "Stunning" Steve Austin due to his injury that kept him sideline for months. THIS is the same man that would one day become "Stone Cold" Steve Austin and have a WWE hall of fame career.

Even if Bischoff NEVER fired Austin and he stayed in WCW, they would've never made him big and turned him into the huge star he became in WWE. So, it was like he had no choice but to fire him and let him go somewhere where he'd actually be respected and used properly. Had he not been injured and wrestling normally, he would've just been buried by all of the incoming vets, as you see what happened there after he left.

So to me, the only "crime" done here was possibly the way Bischoff let him go, not the fact that he let him go.

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Reply #122 posted 08/19/11 10:58am

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

Lawd, I was hoping this wouldn't end with a Punk/Nash match, but it seems that's where they're headed. *facepalm* Why, why, why??! They should just keep Nash as an enforcer and/or on-air character and MAYBE part of one 6-man tag match (though he wouldn't get tagged in lol ). That's it!! I can only see this match being a fuckin' dud! and why can't Nash feud with Cena and jacknife powerbomb HIS ass to hell and let Punk feud with ADR for the title?!! Why does Cena ALWAYS friggin' get title shots??!?! He's over enough where he obviously doesn't NEED the damn thing.

And also, isn't Punk insanely over already? Why or how would bringing Nash in help Punk in doing that when them damn little Jimmys didn't even know or care who he was last Monday on Raw?! God, these kids/Cena fans are ruining everything good about pro wrestling (in the WWE).

that's why i wanted 2 throw something at cena when he came into 2 the ring and talked about facing ADR i held my hands up saying WHERE IS CM PUNK? R TRUTH!! tired of cena and orton jumping ahead of the pack 2 get a title defense.

back in the day when trips made claim and flair made claims to being champions meant more than what it is now. if there is going 2 be a cena vs adr championship match, i'm going with ADR.

fuck why isn't the miz being talked about in the championship mix for that matter? i would rather see that then fucking cena.

but let's give the slight benefit of doubt here with nash and cm punk..MAKE THAT SHIT BRIEF! nash imo can't fuck with cm punk on the mic so the reactions 2 nash behind stage are nothing that he shouldn't have expected. he was weak going up against cm on the mic. the only one imo that can even come close 2 cm on the mic right now are the rock and jericho, maybe edge but that's the quality that cm needs 2 bash with. hopefully around survior series when the rock is "supposed" 2 make a appearance 2 fuck cena up that this involves cm punk regaining the title for a long period of time

Please, Truth is now forever cast off back down to the mid-card and was given his one little shot at the title (one we all knew he wasn't going to win). And you know what? Vince and company will actually feel good about themselves because they gave the black man some charity for a month, as if they're the ultimate equal opportunity givers. disbelief

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Reply #123 posted 08/19/11 4:04pm

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TonyVanDam said:

3. We all know that one of WCW's (specifically Eric Bishoff's) biggest f*** ups was firing "Stunning" Steve Austin due to his injury that kept him sideline for months. THIS is the same man that would one day become "Stone Cold" Steve Austin and have a WWE hall of fame career.

Even if Bischoff NEVER fired Austin and he stayed in WCW, they would've never made him big and turned him into the huge star he became in WWE. So, it was like he had no choice but to fire him and let him go somewhere where he'd actually be respected and used properly. Had he not been injured and wrestling normally, he would've just been buried by all of the incoming vets, as you see what happened there after he left.

So to me, the only "crime" done here was possibly the way Bischoff let him go, not the fact that he let him go.

Up to the point of his job termination, Steve won all of WCW's belts except for the World Heavyweight Title. For all we know, he might have been one major push away from being the top heel in the company (and you know top-babyface Sting is excellent when he has to deal with the right heel). But with Hogan coming in, I strongly agree with you that Steve would have been screwed out of that opportunity. Plus, Eric was not bright enough to know that there was more to Steve besides wearing black trunks & black boots.

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Reply #124 posted 08/19/11 4:24pm

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TonyVanDam said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Even if Bischoff NEVER fired Austin and he stayed in WCW, they would've never made him big and turned him into the huge star he became in WWE. So, it was like he had no choice but to fire him and let him go somewhere where he'd actually be respected and used properly. Had he not been injured and wrestling normally, he would've just been buried by all of the incoming vets, as you see what happened there after he left.

So to me, the only "crime" done here was possibly the way Bischoff let him go, not the fact that he let him go.

Up to the point of his job termination, Steve won all of WCW's belts except for the World Heavyweight Title. For all we know, he might have been one major push away from being the top heel in the company (and you know top-babyface Sting is excellent when he has to deal with the right heel). But with Hogan coming in, I strongly agree with you that Steve would have been screwed out of that opportunity. Plus, Eric was not bright enough to know that there was more to Steve besides wearing black trunks & black boots.

Steve and Eric's accounts of how he got fired are pretty similar. Eric called him to come back to work, Steve was frustrated and told him to kiss his ass, Eric said "fine, send him his walking papers" with no remorse. Dusty, Flair, and Bischoff were all holding him back, think about why they broke up the Hollywood Blondes disbelief

It's obvious that he knew he fucked up by '97 when Steve became a main eventer lol

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Reply #125 posted 08/19/11 5:14pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Up to the point of his job termination, Steve won all of WCW's belts except for the World Heavyweight Title. For all we know, he might have been one major push away from being the top heel in the company (and you know top-babyface Sting is excellent when he has to deal with the right heel). But with Hogan coming in, I strongly agree with you that Steve would have been screwed out of that opportunity. Plus, Eric was not bright enough to know that there was more to Steve besides wearing black trunks & black boots.

Steve and Eric's accounts of how he got fired are pretty similar. Eric called him to come back to work, Steve was frustrated and told him to kiss his ass, Eric said "fine, send him his walking papers" with no remorse. Dusty, Flair, and Bischoff were all holding him back, think about why they broke up the Hollywood Blondes disbelief

It's obvious that he knew he fucked up by '97 when Steve became a main eventer lol

Steve was sideline with a injury that kept him out of the ring for months. I know it might not excuse him for cursing Eric out over the phone, but Eric was being a total bitch for trying to get anyone to work a match with a injury that can get far worse to the point of career ending.

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Reply #126 posted 08/19/11 5:22pm

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TonyVanDam said:

bboy87 said:

Steve and Eric's accounts of how he got fired are pretty similar. Eric called him to come back to work, Steve was frustrated and told him to kiss his ass, Eric said "fine, send him his walking papers" with no remorse. Dusty, Flair, and Bischoff were all holding him back, think about why they broke up the Hollywood Blondes disbelief

It's obvious that he knew he fucked up by '97 when Steve became a main eventer lol

Steve was sideline with a injury that kept him out of the ring for months. I know it might not excuse him for cursing Eric out over the phone, but Eric was being a total bitch for trying to get anyone to work a match with a injury that can get far worse to the point of career ending.

True dat! Eric was just living up to his adopted moniker (behind his back) at the time, Bitchoff. lol

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Reply #127 posted 08/19/11 5:32pm

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More topsy-turvy shit for TNA. They need to just go ahead and let Hogan's and Bischoff's contracts expire this November. Cut your losses and build your company around people under 40, for once. Sting should then be used to solely put over the younger, up-in-coming talent (sorry bboy lol ). Oh, and Russo either needs to be fired or they need to bring in more bookers/writers to filter and build up his ideas. Because their booking is for shit right now.

http://www.pwinsider.com/...e.html?p=1

LOOKING AT THE UFC-TNA RIPPLE EFFECT, THE FUTURE OF HULK AND ERIC AND MORE

By Mike Johnson on 2011-08-18 20:00:00

As I discussed on my Elite audio hotline this afternoon, one of the more interesting ripple effects of UFC signing their deal with FOX and leaving SpikeTV will be how it affects the short and long term of TNA Impact Wrestling.

In their statement today on UFC's exit from the network, SpikeTV noted they would be focusing additional time and money on series that they own, such as Bar Rescue. Notably absent, likely because they don't own the series, was any mention of Impact Wrestling. So where does that leave TNA?

According to sources at the network, TNA is signed with SpikeTV through October 2012. While technically the top rated original series on the network, UFC was a much larger marquee brand for Spike. When it exits, even more pressure will be on TNA to drive and maintain their ratings, which have been down in recent weeks. It will fall upon TNA to try and help carry some of the brunt of the loss.

It's going to be very interesting to see if SpikeTV opts to invest more money into the production and talent budgets for Impact. The network has already pitched in with the planned "on the road" tapings that begin on 8/25 in Huntsville, Alabama. With more money available to the network thanks to UFC exiting, will they spend it with TNA or simply invest in more reality-style series, another MMA project or simply wait to see which way the wind blows in terms of re-branding their network?

Another major question to be asked (and this one will be answered sooner than later) is the long-term future of Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. The belief among those I have spoken to in recent weeks is that their current deals with TNA expire this November. Obviously, the company is building towards Hogan vs. Sting at Bound for Glory, but then what? If a new deal isn't reached, the talent the company has treated as their top star and one of their most important producers, Bischoff, will be gone - and TNA (with Dixie Carter back "in charge" and back on TV) will be left to pick up the pieces and move forward, having already changed the look and blueprint of their company greatly in recent years to satiate the Hogan camp.

Or, things could go the other way. If SpikeTV believes that Hogan and Bischoff are integral to TNA's long-term survival and success, could we see the Hogan camp demand even changes within the company, which could lead to even more talent, creative and staff changes in order for Team Hogan to sign on again? While everyone puts on a strong front publicly, even as recently as Hardcore Justice, Hogan and Vince Russo were seen having strong disagreements over the finish of Sting vs. Kurt Angle. Could the departure of UFC begin a domino effect that finally sees massive changes to the TNA hierarchy and product?

It's not as far-fetched as one might think. All it takes is for one network deal to happen or one merger to go through and the entire industry is changed forever. Need I remind anyone how quickly the WWE purchase of WCW went down once Jamie Kellner opted to change the promotional strategy for TBS and TNT?

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Reply #128 posted 08/19/11 5:35pm

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http://www.pwinsider.com/...s.html?p=1

WHY NASH WAS PULLED FROM WEEKEND INDY DATES

By Mike Johnson on 2011-08-19 10:29:18

According to WWE sources, Kevin Nash was pulled from his Canadian independent dates as the company needed him to go to Pittsburgh to take all the medical exams necessary for WWE to allow a talent to be cleared to physically compete.

Well everybody, we just had "The Summer of Punk". Now, get ready for "The Autumn of Nash". lol

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Reply #129 posted 08/19/11 11:06pm

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I knew this was eventually going to cause a problem since they run those ads about anti-bullying. lol Besides, what Lawler has been saying about Vickie has been utterly ridiculous and stupid, considering she's way more fit than all of the Raw broadcasters (which Dolph Ziggler hilariously pointed out this past Raw).

http://www.wrestlinginc.c...19/543189/

Be A Star Under Fire After Vickie Guerrero Fat Jokes

Lisa Wright, who is the program director of the national non-profit organization Council for Unity, wrote a letter to the Be A Star Alliance questioning their affiliation with WWE after receiving an e-mail concerning the "fat jokes" being directed towards performer Vickie Guerrero on television. She asks how the anti-bullying organization's partnership with WWE fits their mission to show tolerance and respect since professional wrestling consists of name calling and threats culminating in violence.

Her statement reads: "I recently received an e-mail regarding your alliance with the WWE. The e-mail pointed out the "fat jokes" about Vickie Guerrero. Wrestling as I perceive it consists of name calling and threats culminating in violence to settle conflicts. How does this fit with your mission to `Show Tolerance and Respect?' Are you saying this behavior is alright for entertainment value? As an employee of a member organization listed on your website, your questionable judgment reflects poorly, not only on you, but on all the organizations listed there.

"As an organization whose mission is to prevent violence and bullying, we must be careful who we partner with and what messages that partnership sends. As we look for funding, ways to market our mission, and new partnerships, we must remain aware of the cultural forces that impact those that we serve. Furthermore, we must be sensitive not to promote the very negative behaviors that we have spent our professional lives trying to prevent. I fail to see how an alliance with the WWE will do that. We must be aware that in our business, as in life, actions speak louder than words. The WWE may, in principal, be against bullying and the violence that so often accompanies it, however, the very nature of the business is not conducive to a culture of inclusion and peace that we here at the Council for Unity seek to create. To that end, we respectfully request the removal of our organization from your web site."

WWE and The Creative Coalition teamed up for a party centered around SummerSlam and the "be a STAR" initiative last Thursday in Los Angeles, California promoting anti-bullying. Contrary to the campaign, Jerry Lawler made jokes concerning Guerrero's weight days later on RAW while she occupied the announce booth for a segment.

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Reply #130 posted 08/20/11 9:00am

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More topsy-turvy shit for TNA. They need to just go ahead and let Hogan's and Bischoff's contracts expire this November. Cut your losses and build your company around people under 40, for once. Sting should then be used to solely put over the younger, up-in-coming talent (sorry bboy lol ). Oh, and Russo either needs to be fired or they need to bring in more bookers/writers to filter and build up his ideas. Because their booking is for shit right now.

http://www.pwinsider.com/...e.html?p=1

LOOKING AT THE UFC-TNA RIPPLE EFFECT, THE FUTURE OF HULK AND ERIC AND MORE

By Mike Johnson on 2011-08-18 20:00:00

As I discussed on my Elite audio hotline this afternoon, one of the more interesting ripple effects of UFC signing their deal with FOX and leaving SpikeTV will be how it affects the short and long term of TNA Impact Wrestling.

In their statement today on UFC's exit from the network, SpikeTV noted they would be focusing additional time and money on series that they own, such as Bar Rescue. Notably absent, likely because they don't own the series, was any mention of Impact Wrestling. So where does that leave TNA?

According to sources at the network, TNA is signed with SpikeTV through October 2012. While technically the top rated original series on the network, UFC was a much larger marquee brand for Spike. When it exits, even more pressure will be on TNA to drive and maintain their ratings, which have been down in recent weeks. It will fall upon TNA to try and help carry some of the brunt of the loss.

It's going to be very interesting to see if SpikeTV opts to invest more money into the production and talent budgets for Impact. The network has already pitched in with the planned "on the road" tapings that begin on 8/25 in Huntsville, Alabama. With more money available to the network thanks to UFC exiting, will they spend it with TNA or simply invest in more reality-style series, another MMA project or simply wait to see which way the wind blows in terms of re-branding their network?

Another major question to be asked (and this one will be answered sooner than later) is the long-term future of Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. The belief among those I have spoken to in recent weeks is that their current deals with TNA expire this November. Obviously, the company is building towards Hogan vs. Sting at Bound for Glory, but then what? If a new deal isn't reached, the talent the company has treated as their top star and one of their most important producers, Bischoff, will be gone - and TNA (with Dixie Carter back "in charge" and back on TV) will be left to pick up the pieces and move forward, having already changed the look and blueprint of their company greatly in recent years to satiate the Hogan camp.

Or, things could go the other way. If SpikeTV believes that Hogan and Bischoff are integral to TNA's long-term survival and success, could we see the Hogan camp demand even changes within the company, which could lead to even more talent, creative and staff changes in order for Team Hogan to sign on again? While everyone puts on a strong front publicly, even as recently as Hardcore Justice, Hogan and Vince Russo were seen having strong disagreements over the finish of Sting vs. Kurt Angle. Could the departure of UFC begin a domino effect that finally sees massive changes to the TNA hierarchy and product?

It's not as far-fetched as one might think. All it takes is for one network deal to happen or one merger to go through and the entire industry is changed forever. Need I remind anyone how quickly the WWE purchase of WCW went down once Jamie Kellner opted to change the promotional strategy for TBS and TNT?

u know vince is gonna watch this very carefully now and if TNA was smart they would sell their asses 2 spike tv to get more AIR TIME per week. if it's done right and then some might open their eyes and look at TNA more, don't u think Vince will have a fire up his ass cause then he can't cruise on broad street cause he has no competition. Or even if Ring Of Honer gets a network exposure, Vince would have 2 step up it more

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #131 posted 08/20/11 9:12am

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I knew this was eventually going to cause a problem since they run those ads about anti-bullying. lol Besides, what Lawler has been saying about Vickie has been utterly ridiculous and stupid, considering she's way more fit than all of the Raw broadcasters (which Dolph Ziggler hilariously pointed out this past Raw).

http://www.wrestlinginc.c...19/543189/

Be A Star Under Fire After Vickie Guerrero Fat Jokes

Her statement reads: "I recently received an e-mail regarding your alliance with the WWE. The e-mail pointed out the "fat jokes" about Vickie Guerrero. Wrestling as I perceive it consists of name calling and threats culminating in violence to settle conflicts. How does this fit with your mission to `Show Tolerance and Respect?' Are you saying this behavior is alright for entertainment value? As an employee of a member organization listed on your website, your questionable judgment reflects poorly, not only on you, but on all the organizations listed there.

"As an organization whose mission is to prevent violence and bullying, we must be careful who we partner with and what messages that partnership sends. As we look for funding, ways to market our mission, and new partnerships, we must remain aware of the cultural forces that impact those that we serve. Furthermore, we must be sensitive not to promote the very negative behaviors that we have spent our professional lives trying to prevent. I fail to see how an alliance with the WWE will do that. We must be aware that in our business, as in life, actions speak louder than words. The WWE may, in principal, be against bullying and the violence that so often accompanies it, however, the very nature of the business is not conducive to a culture of inclusion and peace that we here at the Council for Unity seek to create. To that end, we respectfully request the removal of our organization from your web site."

WWE and The Creative Coalition teamed up for a party centered around SummerSlam and the "be a STAR" initiative last Thursday in Los Angeles, California promoting anti-bullying. Contrary to the campaign, Jerry Lawler made jokes concerning Guerrero's weight days later on RAW while she occupied the announce booth for a segment.

vicki has lost considerable weight and does look a whole lot better than king so i really don't get why king always says shit about vicki's weight. and didn't point out that the anti bully campagin was bullshit cause vince bullies people and so does triple h.

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #132 posted 08/20/11 1:56pm

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More topsy-turvy shit for TNA. They need to just go ahead and let Hogan's and Bischoff's contracts expire this November. Cut your losses and build your company around people under 40, for once. Sting should then be used to solely put over the younger, up-in-coming talent (sorry bboy lol ). Oh, and Russo either needs to be fired or they need to bring in more bookers/writers to filter and build up his ideas. Because their booking is for shit right now.

http://www.pwinsider.com/...e.html?p=1

LOOKING AT THE UFC-TNA RIPPLE EFFECT, THE FUTURE OF HULK AND ERIC AND MORE

By Mike Johnson on 2011-08-18 20:00:00

As I discussed on my Elite audio hotline this afternoon, one of the more interesting ripple effects of UFC signing their deal with FOX and leaving SpikeTV will be how it affects the short and long term of TNA Impact Wrestling.

In their statement today on UFC's exit from the network, SpikeTV noted they would be focusing additional time and money on series that they own, such as Bar Rescue. Notably absent, likely because they don't own the series, was any mention of Impact Wrestling. So where does that leave TNA?

According to sources at the network, TNA is signed with SpikeTV through October 2012. While technically the top rated original series on the network, UFC was a much larger marquee brand for Spike. When it exits, even more pressure will be on TNA to drive and maintain their ratings, which have been down in recent weeks. It will fall upon TNA to try and help carry some of the brunt of the loss.

It's going to be very interesting to see if SpikeTV opts to invest more money into the production and talent budgets for Impact. The network has already pitched in with the planned "on the road" tapings that begin on 8/25 in Huntsville, Alabama. With more money available to the network thanks to UFC exiting, will they spend it with TNA or simply invest in more reality-style series, another MMA project or simply wait to see which way the wind blows in terms of re-branding their network?

Another major question to be asked (and this one will be answered sooner than later) is the long-term future of Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. The belief among those I have spoken to in recent weeks is that their current deals with TNA expire this November. Obviously, the company is building towards Hogan vs. Sting at Bound for Glory, but then what? If a new deal isn't reached, the talent the company has treated as their top star and one of their most important producers, Bischoff, will be gone - and TNA (with Dixie Carter back "in charge" and back on TV) will be left to pick up the pieces and move forward, having already changed the look and blueprint of their company greatly in recent years to satiate the Hogan camp.

Or, things could go the other way. If SpikeTV believes that Hogan and Bischoff are integral to TNA's long-term survival and success, could we see the Hogan camp demand even changes within the company, which could lead to even more talent, creative and staff changes in order for Team Hogan to sign on again? While everyone puts on a strong front publicly, even as recently as Hardcore Justice, Hogan and Vince Russo were seen having strong disagreements over the finish of Sting vs. Kurt Angle. Could the departure of UFC begin a domino effect that finally sees massive changes to the TNA hierarchy and product?

It's not as far-fetched as one might think. All it takes is for one network deal to happen or one merger to go through and the entire industry is changed forever. Need I remind anyone how quickly the WWE purchase of WCW went down once Jamie Kellner opted to change the promotional strategy for TBS and TNT?

I rebuke you! STING SHALL STAY THE WORLD CHAMPION!!!!

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Nah, but I think Sting should definitely be in the "Elder Statesman" position that Shawn Michaels was in the for the last year before he retired. He doesn't have anything to prove (other than going to WWE). He's a 15 time world champion and has been in the game for 25 years. It's time to move aside for the new guys

and can somebody tell Jeff Jerrett and Karen we don't want to see their asses on TV?! He's never been a main eventer, and he NEEDS to know that lol

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #133 posted 08/20/11 3:24pm

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bboy87 said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

More topsy-turvy shit for TNA. They need to just go ahead and let Hogan's and Bischoff's contracts expire this November. Cut your losses and build your company around people under 40, for once. Sting should then be used to solely put over the younger, up-in-coming talent (sorry bboy lol ). Oh, and Russo either needs to be fired or they need to bring in more bookers/writers to filter and build up his ideas. Because their booking is for shit right now.

I rebuke you! STING SHALL STAY THE WORLD CHAMPION!!!!

lol

Nah, but I think Sting should definitely be in the "Elder Statesman" position that Shawn Michaels was in the for the last year before he retired. He doesn't have anything to prove (other than going to WWE). He's a 15 time world champion and has been in the game for 25 years. It's time to move aside for the new guys

and can somebody tell Jeff Jerrett and Karen we don't want to see their asses on TV?! He's never been a main eventer, and he NEEDS to know that lol

for real every time i see him and karen i go do something else lol

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #134 posted 08/20/11 3:39pm

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I rebuke you! STING SHALL STAY THE WORLD CHAMPION!!!!

lol

Nah, but I think Sting should definitely be in the "Elder Statesman" position that Shawn Michaels was in the for the last year before he retired. He doesn't have anything to prove (other than going to WWE). He's a 15 time world champion and has been in the game for 25 years. It's time to move aside for the new guys

and can somebody tell Jeff Jerrett and Karen we don't want to see their asses on TV?! He's never been a main eventer, and he NEEDS to know that lol

for real every time i see him and karen i go do something else lol

His appearances are like the equal of a Kelly Kelly/Bella Twins match lol

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #135 posted 08/20/11 3:58pm

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bboy87 said:

I rebuke you! STING SHALL STAY THE WORLD CHAMPION!!!!

lol

Nah, but I think Sting should definitely be in the "Elder Statesman" position that Shawn Michaels was in the for the last year before he retired. He doesn't have anything to prove (other than going to WWE). He's a 15 time world champion and has been in the game for 25 years. It's time to move aside for the new guys

and can somebody tell Jeff Jerrett and Karen we don't want to see their asses on TV?! He's never been a main eventer, and he NEEDS to know that lol

for real every time i see him and karen i go do something else lol

Lol!! I don't who told Jarrett he was main event material, but they lied to him. Heavily. Oh yeah, I DO know who told him. Russo did. He tried to make him a star in WCW when he got hired there, and he's been doing so ever since. Of course since Jarrett helped to get TNA started, he was going to make himself the face of the company and book himself to be a champion. But when Russo was hired there (by Jarrett, I'm sure, cuz he knew how much of a Jarrett mark he was), he's was in our faces non-stop, save for the time when he was "suspended" for fuckin' Kurt's wife. lol

He's mid-card talent AT BEST!!!!!!!

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Reply #136 posted 08/20/11 4:21pm

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Funny (most of 'em) wrestling pics post #2:

God, Randy Boreton SUCKS:

Oh Christian. disbelief

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Reply #137 posted 08/20/11 6:04pm

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that Virgil picture always gets me falloff

A member on Okayplayer.com said he saw Virgil walking around Coney Island offering autographs and trying to pick guys up

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #138 posted 08/20/11 7:36pm

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bboy87 said:

that Virgil picture always gets me falloff

A member on Okayplayer.com said he saw Virgil walking around Coney Island offering autographs and trying to pick guys up

Yeah, me too. I love looking at that one! lol I'm like, poor ol' Virgil. But for all we know, that might've been taken when the place was closing down or something. Lol! Who knows.

So, is it a pretty well known underground thing now that Virgil is gay (or at least bi)? Has he come out and admitted it or anything?

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Reply #139 posted 08/20/11 8:35pm

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This is, no doubt, in response to Booker T tweeting that the tag team of the Young Bucks were at a WWE event for a tryout recently, and they didn't shake his hand. On top of that, he said one of the guys was even leaning on his jacket, which is def another no-no in the locker room. RVD then tweeted that he agreed with Booker, and that the Young Bucks appeared to be know-it-all, arrogant kids when they both worked in TNA.

And, I agree 100% with everything Shane Helms is saying here. If you're at a tryout and you're trying to get INTO the company, why not do the safe thing and show your respect in the way that company is used to??? Whether they agreed with it or not, they were still on THEIR turf, so why not take a couple minutes of your time and show respect?

http://shanehelmscom.tumb...helms-blog

To Shake Hands or To Not Shake Hands: A Helms Blog

I feel kind of silly even writing about this, but as it seems to be a wee “hot topic” at the moment, I’d thought I share my personal opinion for one reason and one reason only, I don’t want this to be an issue for any other upcoming talents! This business is hard enough to succeed in as it is, and to be honest it really is a stupid thing to have to debate anyway. That being said …

No need to discuss the particulars involved, I’m sure if you’re reading this, you probably already know them by name anyhow. But trust me, this isn’t the first time this has been an issue in the “locker room.” So, here goes: For those of you that don’t know, there is a tradition among locker rooms, not all, but I’d say a lot, and I’d definitely say in the WWE locker room of shaking hands when you get to the building. You go up to the vets, the other boys, the refs, the girls, just whomever you work with, and politely shake their hand … for no other reason than as a sign of respect. That’s ALL IT IS. It’s not a submissive motion, it doesn’t make you less of a man, it’s not a judgment (although you will be judged if you don’t do it) it’s just a way of saying hello in a polite and respectful manner. And in a locker room (such as WWE) that is inhabited by more than a few veterans and guys who have paved the way for us all, respect is kind of a big deal. And that applies to everyone that works there. I’ve seen Taker, HHH, Flair, Austin, Rock, all the big names and a ton I didn’t mention, for brevity’s sake, do this. I did it almost every fucking show! I’d get to the locker room and I’d walk around and say hey to everyone, the only exceptions would be if I just saw them in the last few hours or so. Hell, I do it on Indy shows! Whether it was WFX in Canada, BTW or PWG in Cali, LLUSA DreamWave, IGF in Japan, everywhere I work, I introduce myself to people if I don’t know them and I try to say hey to everyone. I’m sure I’ve missed a hand shake or two in my life but I always made a strong effort. Do some VETS who’ve been around for decades appreciate it if the younger talent makes the first move, of course they do. It’s a simple gesture of respect, which in most cases has been earned. It’s not a “this guy is a bigger star than me or that guy is a better worker than me” it’s not that at all. And if you take it as such, then maybe the problem is within you. And before anyone says anything, yes a VET can be disrespectful at times, I’ve been on the receiving end of that as well, but the difference is, they already have a job!

NOW … if you don’t work there, and you’re trying to get hired, MIGHT I SUGGEST to those of you who don’t know of this tradition that you JUST DO IT! I mean, why would you NOT wanna meet everyone in the locker room that YOU wanna be a part of?? Why would you NOT wanna introduce yourself to the commentators, or referees, or management?? Yeah, it kinda takes some people out of their comfort zone for a second, but so what?? Just do it! Because you know what … it WILL be noticed if you don’t! It WILL be taken as a sign of disrespect … and this is key here … whether that was your intent or not! And it WILL look bad upon you and may even have an effect on whether you get the job that you probably worked your ass off to get a chance at. It’s such a tiny gesture, just do it guys/gals because … and TRUST ME on this … you will have PLENTY of opportunities to get heat later!! Trust me! smile

In final, to any talents reading this, if you get a chance to get a tryout match with WWE, TNA, LLUSA, ROH, or even if it’s your local Indy promotion, just assume that people are watching. You’re there to get noticed right? Right? So, don’t be shocked when people notice things. It’s the Entertainment world, and I wish it relied solely on your in-ring performance, but that’s not the world we exist in. It never has been and it probably never will be. Besides, would a lil more respect actually hurt our business?? Cuz I think, respect is one of the things it’s missing. Thx for reading.

[Edited 8/20/11 20:36pm]

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Reply #140 posted 08/20/11 8:53pm

alexnvrmnd777

Lol! These Hardy boys REALLY need to get their shit together!! Pretty soon, no one's gonna wanna touch 'em at all, save for indy promoters for $20 and a piece of cake. disbelief

http://www.tmz.com/2011/0...lCAR2HzOSo

Matt Hardy
OUT of TNA Following DWI Arrest

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Matt Hardy's arrest today in North Carolina has had immediate repercussions -- he's been DROPPED from TNA.

A rep for TNA tells TMZ, "TNA today released Impact Wrestling star Matt Hardy from its roster. Hardy was already under suspension from the company."

As TMZ first reported, Hardy was arrested after his Corvette smashed into a tree this afternoon. He was not injured.

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Reply #141 posted 08/20/11 10:53pm

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http://www.lfpress.com/sp...78676.html

JoMo wants whole Truth

Last Updated: August 19, 2011 10:20pm

OTTAWA - In the midst of a WWE Universe storm, John Morrison is holding a grudge.

And while CM Punk is stewing after becoming an undisputed champion at Summer Slam, only to have Kevin Nash throw himself into the middle and Alberto Del Rio pin Punk to become the new champion, Morrison could carry the grudge into a huge live RAW TV show in Edmonton Aug. 22.

R Truth is the guy with the bull’s-eye on his back this time.

“I am a laid-back surfer kid from California in real life,” says Morrison (real name, John Hennigan). “But even a laid-back surfer kid can get angry. I’m furious at R Truth, a guy I considered my friend at one time.”

After being sidelined a couple of times after attacks by R Truth, Morrison returned to RAW late last month and attacked his adversary.

Morrison is happy with his place in WWE.

“You look at John Cena and CM Punk. They’re both very talented with a great mind for the business. But I have a lot of things they don’t have. The time of John Morrison and the Jomo sapiens is just around the corner. I love what I do. I love performing.”

Morrison admits he still gets nervous before grabbing a microphone.

“If you’re nervous, it means you care about what you’re doing,” he said. “Look at The Rock ... before he goes out there, he’s a nervous wreck.”

Morrison is looking forward to getting into the ring in Edmonton.

“Wrestling has such a strong tradition in Canada,” he said. “I was just in Toronto doing some media and bumped into like three guys who knew Edge. That was so cool.”

Morrison also happens to have a superhot girlfriend, Melina, who was just released by WWE.

“The idea of having more freedom to choose when and where to work is liberating for her,” said Morrison.

Quick hits

John Morrison was asked to sum up some of WWE’s personalties in a couple of words. Here’s how he responded.

CM Punk: “Opinionated.”

Triple H: “Ambitious, yet unproven.”

Randy Orton: “Bad Ass. It’s tough to sum him up with one word. He’s an anomaly. It seems as if he did everything a certain way because of who he is. But he’s charismatic. And he’s entertaining to watch. You can’t deny that.”

The Miz: “Really, really loud and annoying. Yet deceivingly loyal to his friends.”

Melina: “The most talented diva ever to be employed by WWE. She’s got charisma and sex appeal. But the main thing that sets her apart is she makes people feel when she’s in the ring ... whether she’s angry, happy, surprised or pissed off. Whatever she feels, the audience feels that.”

Vince McMahon: “A supertalented workaholic. Micromanager. A perfectionist who expects the same from his employees.”

Trips unproven? Okay, JoMo. He must be talkin' kayfabe about hiim being "COO". And he's trying to say he sucks on the mic because he's nervous and that even The Rock gets nervous?!? Whatever, negro! lol

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Reply #142 posted 08/20/11 11:02pm

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Who/what the fuck is he looking at? The cue card? He needs to stay OFF camera!!!! lol

http://www.youtube.com/wa...WQo09lwOxU

And here's a quick blurb from my second child's baby mama. *slurp*

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Qejc21LWAA

They turned the embedding feature off, apparently, so I could only copy and paste the links here.

[Edited 8/20/11 23:06pm]

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Reply #143 posted 08/20/11 11:26pm

alexnvrmnd777

One of the all-time greats doing one of the best promos of his entire career:

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Reply #144 posted 08/21/11 1:15am

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Fuck Mankind and fuck Dude Love...it's ALL ABOUT Cactus Jack! nod

Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, baby!

BANG BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

blunt music She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... music blunt
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Reply #145 posted 08/21/11 2:28am

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StonedImmaculate said:

Fuck Mankind and fuck Dude Love...it's ALL ABOUT Cactus Jack! nod

Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, baby!

BANG BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, Cactus was easily my favorite persona of his. He wasn't no joke!!! I'm glad to hear he's coming back to WWE. I just hope he's used right and listened to, creatively, in the back. This hasn't been officially said or announced, but I think he's said it's pretty much a foregone conclusion!

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Reply #146 posted 08/21/11 6:42am

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bboy87 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

for real every time i see him and karen i go do something else lol

His appearances are like the equal of a Kelly Kelly/Bella Twins match lol

yeah because at least mae young is funny lol

still shaking my head at how kelly beat beth ill

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #147 posted 08/21/11 6:45am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

for real every time i see him and karen i go do something else lol

Lol!! I don't who told Jarrett he was main event material, but they lied to him. Heavily. Oh yeah, I DO know who told him. Russo did. He tried to make him a star in WCW when he got hired there, and he's been doing so ever since. Of course since Jarrett helped to get TNA started, he was going to make himself the face of the company and book himself to be a champion. But when Russo was hired there (by Jarrett, I'm sure, cuz he knew how much of a Jarrett mark he was), he's was in our faces non-stop, save for the time when he was "suspended" for fuckin' Kurt's wife. lol

He's mid-card talent AT BEST!!!!!!!

lord i remember not too recently when jarett was going around the ring saying he was a MMA specialist but then running from samaoe joe and angle lol

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #148 posted 08/21/11 7:06am

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Lol! These Hardy boys REALLY need to get their shit together!! Pretty soon, no one's gonna wanna touch 'em at all, save for indy promoters for $20 and a piece of cake. disbelief

http://www.tmz.com/2011/0...lCAR2HzOSo

Matt Hardy
OUT of TNA Following DWI Arrest

0820_matt_hardy_ex


Matt Hardy's arrest today in North Carolina has had immediate repercussions -- he's been DROPPED from TNA.

A rep for TNA tells TMZ, "TNA today released Impact Wrestling star Matt Hardy from its roster. Hardy was already under suspension from the company."

As TMZ first reported, Hardy was arrested after his Corvette smashed into a tree this afternoon. He was not injured.

no wonder his ass hasn't been seen lately lol ..oh matt are u gonna go crying 2 amy or helms saying it wasn't fair?

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #149 posted 08/21/11 7:26am

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StonedImmaculate said:

Fuck Mankind and fuck Dude Love...it's ALL ABOUT Cactus Jack! nod

Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, baby!

BANG BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bow mick foley

he paved the way for a lot of what these wrestlers did in the ring but i can understand too that they can't or won't take the bumps due 2 their lives but damn it's shame that his era of wrestling is gone

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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