Thanx everyone


based on what has been said thus far ... I believe that the person that told me this weekend that I "should really work on my character"


REALLY may have wrong about me

Thanx everyone


based on what has been said thus far ... I believe that the person that told me this weekend that I "should really work on my character"


REALLY may have wrong about me

ThreadCula said:

This was someone I have known for years

it was not a joke

and SOME drunk people can be so very rude

Thanx everyone


based on what has been said thus far ... I believe that the person that told me this weekend that I "should really work on my character"


REALLY may have wrong about me

Mach said:

They sure as hell can.

For what it's worth, I don't buy the notion that alcohol is some kind of truth serum, making us behave in ways and say things that we've been holding back until alcohol lowers our inhibitions enough to "let the truth come out."

I think that's total bullshit, and sometimes people get drunk and say very mean things that are totally untrue and make no fucking sense. I've experienced this plenty with the angry drunks in my family.

Their words can still sting, no doubt about that, but I tried to learn not to take them to heart.

Mach said:

They sure as hell can.

For what it's worth, I don't buy the notion that alcohol is some kind of truth serum, making us behave in ways and say things that we've been holding back until alcohol lowers our inhibitions enough to "let the truth come out."

I think that's total bullshit, and sometimes people get drunk and say very mean things that are totally untrue and make no fucking sense. I've experienced this plenty with the angry drunks in my family.

Their words can still sting, no doubt about that, but I tried to learn not to take them to heart.

Mach said:

It makes me wonder what the purpose of such a provocative statement would be.
Especially, if it is somebody you've known for years.

The only thing I can come up with is that they weren't seeking to improve
you in any way and just wanted to make you feel small.

Either way, the energy around that is something they need to work
through, and not you.





“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”--The Buddha

For what it's worth, I don't buy the notion that alcohol is some kind of truth serum

PunkMistress said:

I agree..

I know everybody is affected differently but most people use being drunk as an excuse to cover up their true personality...
I get way more mellow when I'm drinking...and I'm a total asshole...wtf is everbody elses excuse???

Mach said:

obviously, they have not seen your rack.

Mach said:

I'm so sorry, Mach.

Hey, at least your soap is awesome!

Mach said:

They sure as hell can.

For what it's worth, I don't buy the notion that alcohol is some kind of truth serum, making us behave in ways and say things that we've been holding back until alcohol lowers our inhibitions enough to "let the truth come out."

I think that's total bullshit, and sometimes people get drunk and say very mean things that are totally untrue and make no fucking sense. I've experienced this plenty with the angry drunks in my family.

Their words can still sting, no doubt about that, but I tried to learn not to take them to heart.

Mach said:

It makes me wonder what the purpose of such a provocative statement would be.
Especially, if it is somebody you've known for years.

The only thing I can come up with is that they weren't seeking to improve
you in any way and just wanted to make you feel small.

Either way, the energy around that is something they need to work
through, and not you.





“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”--The Buddha

PunkMistress said:

I agree here... Alcohol doesnt make me truthful, it just gives me balls....

People always wanna fight when drinking

I dont know you all that well mach but from what i have seen you are one of the sweetest people around! I dont think I have ever seen you say one negative thing about anyone!!

Honesty
Humility
Compassion
Integrity
Sense of humour
Fuckable bum

Fauxie, with your signature this reads:

Fauxie said:

"Character," to me, suggests someone who is consistently true to self... and self-determined enough that "self" has some marked distinction from every other bozo around them.

Good character is subjective, of course. But I personally dig things like candor/honesty, critical thinking, charity, ambition and a great sense of aesthetic.

ThreadCula said:

I have thought about this statement and person for 4 days now ... and all I can come up with is perhaps an envy issues that they need to address maybe

It really hurt my feelings ...


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Mach said:

Come visit, we will get inebriated, and then I will assess if you have any character. I think, even drunk, you have more character than most people I know.

TheVoid said:

Dan, I love that quote, and I know that it's true.

But goddamn, is it hard to let go of anger. Sometimes I feel like I'm filled with it and it will never go away.

PunkMistress said:

We've talked about this before, but you and I are creatures more comfortable in anger than vulnerability.

To be angry means you've moved beyond sad. It means you've taken proactive steps at trying to right a wrong. Rather than feel defeated we allow anger to consume us like an itch underneath the skin we can never get rid of. We are filled with murderous energy that we unleash often with surgical precision with no other intention than to hurt somebody--and we know when we're doing it, we don't enjoy the fact, but can't help ourselves.

On some level anger is our salvation from vulnerability. By allowing ourselves to feel vulnerable, we're concerned we'll be consumed by fear or pity--which of course our pride causes us to loathe the most.


I swear to gawd, we've must of crossed paths an infinite number of times in past lives. It's like I'm Prince and you're big chick, or vice versa.









“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”


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TheVoid said:

You just described Mon.

Fauxie said:

I just described all the Thai people in my family and most that I know [gratuitous reference to Thailand deliberately included in this post]









“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”

we don't enjoy the fact, but can't help ourselves.

TheVoid said:

ah, but you can

ZombieKitten said:

OK, I concede your point.



But, like cuneiform, it's so difficult.

TheVoid said:

I was gonna say! You described half of the hard-as-nails Thai women I know.

God, I love Thai women. They make the best company.

Mach said:

Come visit, we will get inebriated, and then I will assess if you have any character. I think, even drunk, you have more character than most people I know.