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Reply #960 posted 08/01/12 1:30pm

kibbles

PatrickS77 said:

@JermaineJackson

Yesterday, I had a phone call with my son Jaafar that broke my heart. He asked: "Is it true that we cannot visit grandmother's house as a family anymore?" Enough has become enough... After much soul-searching, it is clearly time for us to live by Michael's words about love not war. In this spirit, I offer this statement by way of extending an olive-branch. Accordingly, I rescind my signature from the letter which was sent to the Estate, and which should never have gone public. I still hold deep reservations about many issues involving the Estate, and I will continue to bring scrutiny and a resolute voice wherever we have cause for concern. But the way to address such matters is through the proper channels and via a private dialogue, not public conflict. Whatever the tabloid and on-line misrepresentations have led people to believe, my primary concern has only ever been rooted in the welfare of our mother in the environment where she lives. No-one on the outside has a clue about the stresses and pressures she has been under long before recent events and I, like everyone in the family, adore the ground she walks on. We are also still raw from the loss of Michael three years ago. The ever-present grief has haunted me with questions about whether we stepped off him too much or whether we did enough to help when a corporate world surrounded him. So when it comes to the well-being of loved ones, and especially our mother, we are perhaps understandably and unapologetically over-protective. As attorney Perry Sanders has since confirmed, a health check detected high blood pressure with Mother. Rest was the sole reason she went to Arizona. Prince even carried her bags down the stairs and urged her to rest-up, because we all come from the same caring place. When she was away, and with the children in the responsible care of Tito's son TJ, there was never a malicious attempt to "block" the kids from talking with her. We simply worried that a call home would first entail, or lead to, conversations with individuals we are in dispute with and that would, therefore, increase pressure on Mother -- and pressure was what a doctor said she didn't need. This was why we went to the house in Calabasas to talk directly with the kids and merely discuss arrangements for them to meet with their grandmother. We were denied that access by security -- and it was clear that mutual suspicions had allowed events to spiral out of control. I regret that events were ever allowed to reach such a stage. I regret any distress caused to Prince, Paris and Blanket. That was never, ever the intention of myself, Janet, Rebbie or Randy. Moving forward, the most effective way to best serve Mother's welfare, and that of Michael's children, is to start a collective dialogue, in private. Mistakes have been made and irrational things have been said on both sides in a highly-charged emotional environment. It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing. I truly hope that we can find it in our hearts to do so. Because above and beyond anything else, what matters...is family.

Wow. Damage control. Finally!



Oh, and don't listen to [Altering another orgers name for name calling that orger is not allowed Snip - luv4u]

. HIStory did well, sold 20 mio copies, despite being a double album with a hefty price tag and it is a great album, front to back.

that s.o.b. should have thought of this BEFORE he and randy and their sisters started down this road to deceive everyone. damage control is right.

stepped off mj too much? no, you stepped ON HIM several times by placing the burden of feeding and clothing your kids on him, and introducing him to the "corporate world" of thome thome, and the so. korean newspaper which you cheated and left your mother holding the bag. no wonder the woman has high blood pressure. anyone else notice how he's backed away from his claims of 'mini-strokes'?

the children are being interviewed and we'll see what they say about being blocked from talking to their grandmother. tj is the one who requested the barring; why would he be taking such extreme measures if they weren't necessary? whatever, jermaine. you'll never have a collective dialogue w/mj's kids; as prince intimated, they know what you're about and they won't give too shits about anything you have to say. you wanted to get your mother to sign on to that letter, that's the only talking you every cared to do. scruntinizing the estate? resolute voice? yeah, i'm sure the two johns are quaking in their boots....NOT.

like rats off a sinking ship. love it!

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Reply #961 posted 08/01/12 1:31pm

Azz

mjscarousal said:

Azz said:

I can't belive you are having a heart attack because I said Little Susie is average. If you were to play it to any non MJ fan along with Stranger In Moscow, they would agree with me.

NOT TRUE.

They would like it because its different and its not a pop song coming from the King of Pop. Its a very creative piece and far from what I would call average.

[Edited 8/1/12 13:21pm]

Well I don't like Lil Susie, but I think Stranger In Moscow is a masterpiece. I'm pretty sure, most critics also agreed that Stranger In Moscow and They Don't Really Care About us and were the highlights. Aswell as, ofcourse, the hit singles You Are Not Alone, Earth Song, Scream

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Reply #962 posted 08/01/12 1:32pm

Azz

mookie said:

Vanilli said:

Jermaine's new "statement" via Twitter:

Yesterday, I had a phone call with my son Jaafar that broke my heart. He asked: "Is it true that we cannot visit grandmother's house as a family anymore?" Enough has become enough... After much soul-searching, it is clearly time for us to live by Michael's words about love not war. In this spirit, I offer this statement by way of extending an olive-branch. Accordingly, I rescind my signature from the letter which was sent to the Estate, and which should never have gone public. I still hold deep reservations about many issues involving the Estate, and I will continue to bring scrutiny and a resolute voice wherever we have cause for concern. But the way to address such matters is through the proper channels and via a private dialogue, not public conflict. Whatever the tabloid and on-line misrepresentations have led people to believe, my primary concern has only ever been rooted in the welfare of our mother in the environment where she lives. No-one on the outside has a clue about the stresses and pressures she has been under long before recent events and I, like everyone in the family, adore the ground she walks on. We are also still raw from the loss of Michael three years ago. The ever-present grief has haunted me with questions about whether we stepped off him too much or whether we did enough to help when a corporate world surrounded him. So when it comes to the well-being of loved ones, and especially our mother, we are perhaps understandably and unapologetically over-protective. As attorney Perry Sanders has since confirmed, a health check detected high blood pressure with Mother. Rest was the sole reason she went to Arizona. Prince even carried her bags down the stairs and urged her to rest-up, because we all come from the same caring place. When she was away, and with the children in the responsible care of Tito's son TJ, there was never a malicious attempt to "block" the kids from talking with her. We simply worried that a call home would first entail, or lead to, conversations with individuals we are in dispute with and that would, therefore, increase pressure on Mother -- and pressure was what a doctor said she didn't need. This was why we went to the house in Calabasas to talk directly with the kids and merely discuss arrangements for them to meet with their grandmother. We were denied that access by security -- and it was clear that mutual suspicions had allowed events to spiral out of control. I regret that events were ever allowed to reach such a stage. I regret any distress caused to Prince, Paris and Blanket. That was never, ever the intention of myself, Janet, Rebbie or Randy. Moving forward, the most effective way to best serve Mother's welfare, and that of Michael's children, is to start a collective dialogue, in private. Mistakes have been made and irrational things have been said on both sides in a highly-charged emotional environment. It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing. I truly hope that we can find it in our hearts to do so. Because above and beyond anything else, what matters...is family.

- Jermaine Jackson

August 1st, 2012

------

This is so typical Jermaine. He (or one of the brothers) causes drama, starts a whole big mess, someone finds out about it, blows the lid on it, he blames the other side along with his "apology" and instead of admitting he fucked up, he just tries to cover it up and make it like he didn't, and that it was everyone else's fault along with his, and then talks about how strong the family is. Wake up call...maybe the family wouldn't have to be "so strong" and "heal" if it wasn't so busy undoing all the bullshit he starts or causes. This is the exact same shit he pulled when 'Word To The Bad" came out. He blamed Michael for ignoring him when he "apoligzed" and then went back to the usual BS about how strong the family is and how it can overcome anything. Ugh. The only thing this family needs healing from now is Jermaine's plot. (And Janet, Randy, and Rebbie - I'm putting ya'll on notice.)

Look up the word fuckups and I swear you would see pics of Jermaine and Randy. Every plan they come up with just always backfires on them.

As you read the responses to Janet's aplogy and just seeing the reaction to this family, you can just see they just majorly fucked up bigtime this time around.

Janet apologised?

[Edited 8/1/12 13:33pm]

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Reply #963 posted 08/01/12 1:50pm

Musicslave

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TMZ retracting their comments, now it's time for MJ fans too.

She better sue!

nutty nutty tease

This is why I believe simply threatening to file a lawsuit or actually suing the media outlet is far more effective than just releasing a public statement. A public statement wouldn't have caused TMZ to retract their story.

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Reply #964 posted 08/01/12 1:59pm

NaughtyKitty

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Michael Jackson's Former Nanny: He Tried To Protect His Kids From This Drama

Michael Jackson's long time nanny, Grace Rwaramba, is speaking out about the ongoing Jackson family drama, telling RadarOnline.com exclusively that the recent turmoil is exactly what the late singer had tried so hard to protect his three children from while he was alive.

Grace began working for Jackson in 1997, and continued to work on and off for the King of Pop for the next decade, including after he tragically died in 2009.

In an exclusive statement to RadarOnline.com, Grace says, "Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment industry can be disaster...The recent drama surrounding Michael's mother, Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and now the public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer."

Read Grace Rwaramba's Sta...mily Drama

As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Judge Mitchell Beckloff, stripped the Jackson family matriarch of her guardianship of the three children because no one could reach her for more than a week. The judge said he made the ruling not because of any wrongdoing on Katherine's behalf, but because she had been prevented from fulfilling her guardianship duties by an "intentional act from third parties."

The children have been embroiled in a vicious family struggle for more than a week now as Randy, Jermaine and Janet Jackson battle over the late King of Pop's will, which they claim is fake. Michael's nephew TJ has been a constant presence in the children's lives and their attorney stated in court that they had no objections to him being appointed temporary guardian.

The Jackson siblings made news last week after security video from the house where Michael's children live was released and showed Janet getting into an altercation with Paris Jackson over the teen's cell phone. Janet physically tried to take the 14-year-old's cell phone from her, and the children watched in horror as Jermaine and Randy got into a physical altercation with Trent, who is Joe Jackson's nephew.

Rwaramba asks that the public be fair to Paris Jackson and "give her a chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father's eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let's be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids. Michael loved his children very much. He gave them tools that they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what's best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on Twitter or any other social media platform."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/michael-jackson-nanny-begs-family-drama-kids

Read Grace's full statement here:

http://www.radaronline.co...-Paris.pdf

I read the full statement and its very good, I wish I could copy and paste the whole thing but I cant. Everyone should read her statement as it gives another view into the family dynamic and how the kids were raised. I'm glad she came to Paris's defense instead of judging and criticizing her like other people have done. smile


[Edited 8/1/12 14:04pm]

[Edited 8/1/12 14:04pm]

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Reply #965 posted 08/01/12 2:07pm

SoulAlive

Jermaine's letter is pathetic disbelief Why didn't he just use common sense in the first place? They sent that scathing letter to the media and are now acting like they're soooooo shocked at the media firestorm that it caused?? Please! rolleyes

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Reply #966 posted 08/01/12 2:08pm

claudiax

MESSAGE FROM GRACE RWARAMBA

In January of 1997, Michael Jackson asked me to leave my job as Personnel Director at MJJ Productions and help him take care of a son that would be born a month later. That son was Prince. Little did I know that I would spend the next 12 years of my life helping his raise Prince, Paris and Blanket from the moment we brought them home from the hospital.

Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment business, can be a recipe for disaster. We can all probably name several child or young stars who struggled and in some cases failed to move into normal adult lives because of the pressures they faced as children.

The recent drama surrounding Michael’s mother Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and the now public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight’s and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer.

Michael taught his children to respect their elders; Paris and her brothers understand that well. Any parent also knows that children that age will test boundaries and assert themselves in a way that deserves discipline and sometimes an appropriate level of punishment. What Mrs. Knight fails to realize is that Paris is still getting to know her extended family. When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles. They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them. They are now learning to live and exist outside the ‘Michael Jackson bubble.’ There will be growing pains, and the kids, like other kids their age, will make mistakes. They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests. The difference between Paris and all other kids her age is the rest of the world will be watching.

Please, be fair to Paris. Give her the chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father’s eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let’s be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids.

Michael loved his children very much. He gave them the tools they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on twitter or any other social media platform.

Grace Rwaramba

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Reply #967 posted 08/01/12 2:15pm

NaughtyKitty

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claudiax said:

MESSAGE FROM GRACE RWARAMBA

In January of 1997, Michael Jackson asked me to leave my job as Personnel Director at MJJ Productions and help him take care of a son that would be born a month later. That son was Prince. Little did I know that I would spend the next 12 years of my life helping his raise Prince, Paris and Blanket from the moment we brought them home from the hospital.

Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment business, can be a recipe for disaster. We can all probably name several child or young stars who struggled and in some cases failed to move into normal adult lives because of the pressures they faced as children.

The recent drama surrounding Michael’s mother Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and the now public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight’s and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer.

Michael taught his children to respect their elders; Paris and her brothers understand that well. Any parent also knows that children that age will test boundaries and assert themselves in a way that deserves discipline and sometimes an appropriate level of punishment. What Mrs. Knight fails to realize is that Paris is still getting to know her extended family. When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles. They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them. They are now learning to live and exist outside the ‘Michael Jackson bubble.’ There will be growing pains, and the kids, like other kids their age, will make mistakes. They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests. The difference between Paris and all other kids her age is the rest of the world will be watching.

Please, be fair to Paris. Give her the chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father’s eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let’s be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids.

Michael loved his children very much. He gave them the tools they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on twitter or any other social media platform.

Grace Rwaramba

Thank you for posting the statement claudiax smile And I agree with Grace's last statement too.

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Reply #968 posted 08/01/12 2:24pm

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Jermaine's statement:

Yesterday, I had a phone call with my son Jaafar that broke my heart. He asked: "Is it true that we cannot visit grandmother's house as a family anymore?" Enough has become enough... After much soul-searching, it is clearly time for us to live by Michael's words about love not war. In this spirit, I offer this statement by way of extending an olive-branch.

Accordingly, I rescind my signature from the letter which was sent to the Estate, and which should never have gone public. I still hold deep reservations about many issues involving the Estate, and I will continue to bring scrutiny and a resolute voice wherever we have cause for concern. But the way to address such matters is through the proper channels and via a private dialogue, not public conflict.

Whatever the tabloid and on-line misrepresentations have led people to believe, my primary concern has only ever been rooted in the welfare of our mother in the environment where she lives. No-one on the outside has a clue about the stresses and pressures she has been under long before recent events and I, like everyone in the family, adore the ground she walks on. We are also still raw from the loss of Michael three years ago. The ever-present grief has haunted me with questions about whether we stepped off him too much or whether we did enough to help when a corporate world surrounded him. So when it comes to the well-being of loved ones, and especially our mother, we are perhaps understandably and unapologetically over-protective.

As attorney Perry Sanders has since confirmed, a health check detected high blood pressure with Mother. Rest was the sole reason she went to Arizona. Prince even carried her bags down the stairs and urged her to rest-up, because we all come from the same caring place. When she was away, and with the children in the responsible care of Tito's son TJ, there was never a malicious attempt to "block" the kids from talking with her. We simply worried that a call home would first entail, or lead to, conversations with individuals we are in dispute with and that would, therefore, increase pressure on Mother -- and pressure was what a doctor said she didn't need.

This was why we went to the house in Calabasas to talk directly with the kids and merely discuss arrangements for them to meet with their grandmother. We were denied that access by security -- and it was clear that mutual suspicions had allowed events to spiral out of control. I regret that events were ever allowed to reach such a stage. I regret any distress caused to Prince, Paris and Blanket. That was never, ever the intention of myself, Janet, Rebbie or Randy.

Moving forward, the most effective way to best serve Mother's welfare, and that of Michael's children, is to start a collective dialogue, in private. Mistakes have been made and irrational things have been said on both sides in a highly-charged emotional environment. It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing. I truly hope that we can find it in our hearts to do so. Because above and beyond anything else, what matters...is family.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ikma93

That's some fast backpedaling you're doing there Jermaine! lol

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Reply #969 posted 08/01/12 2:57pm

kibbles

SoulAlive said:

Jermaine's letter is pathetic disbelief Why didn't he just use common sense in the first place? They sent that scathing letter to the media and are now acting like they're soooooo shocked at the media firestorm that it caused?? Please! rolleyes

exactly. it never occurred to them - NOT ONE OF THEM - that this was a matter to be discussed privately? they accuse the estate of putting all sorts of stress on their mother, but now she's got to go to court and try to salvage her role as guardian to mj3 over his and his siblings' trifling shit? yeah, no stress there!

the judge is going to get that report after mj3 are interviewed and jermaine and the others will never know what's in it. mj's kids have indicated that don't want jermaine - or his wife and kids - in their home and they're being backed up by the people with the power and the money. he's being shut down and shut out, just like he tried to do with mj3. good.

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Reply #970 posted 08/01/12 2:58pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

That's some fast backpedaling you're doing there Jermaine! lol

lol Exactly. So glad everyone can see this clown for what he is. Ick.

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Reply #971 posted 08/01/12 3:14pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #972 posted 08/01/12 3:30pm

mookie

Azz said:

Janet apologised?

[Edited 8/1/12 13:33pm]

I meant TMZ backtracking.

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Reply #973 posted 08/01/12 3:49pm

babynoz

SoulAlive said:

Jermaine's letter is pathetic disbelief Why didn't he just use common sense in the first place? They sent that scathing letter to the media and are now acting like they're soooooo shocked at the media firestorm that it caused?? Please! rolleyes

Yeah, he's showing his resoluteness by rescinding his signature from the letter, lol And mother's stroke has suddenly become high blood pressure?

Like I said...Pinky and the Brain... disbelief

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Reply #974 posted 08/01/12 4:13pm

lowkey

i will be really disappointed if randy,janet and rebbie backtrack like tito and jermaine bitch asses. if you believe it stand by it, they signed the letter, taking there names off dont change that.jermaine sounds stupid saying he's removing his signature but he still believe some things aint right with the estate. they all need to stay off twitter, who told jermaine he had to make a public statement, why couldnt he just call the executors or whoever? this reminds me of the time when the family wrote a letter denying mike's drug problems and they all signed except janet,randy and rebbie. if they believe what they wrote then they should stand by it, who gives a shit what mj fans or the media want. im glad janet didnt come out with no statement defending herself against that bogus story about slapping paris, she let her lawyers handle it.

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Reply #975 posted 08/01/12 4:31pm

Azz

lowkey said:

i will be really disappointed if randy,janet and rebbie backtrack like tito and jermaine bitch asses. if you believe it stand by it, they signed the letter, taking there names off dont change that.jermaine sounds stupid saying he's removing his signature but he still believe some things aint right with the estate. they all need to stay off twitter, who told jermaine he had to make a public statement, why couldnt he just call the executors or whoever? this reminds me of the time when the family wrote a letter denying mike's drug problems and they all signed except janet,randy and rebbie. if they believe what they wrote then they should stand by it, who gives a shit what mj fans or the media want. im glad janet didnt come out with no statement defending herself against that bogus story about slapping paris, she let her lawyers handle it.

But Jermaine still believes it, as he stated in the Tweet, it's just cowardice

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Reply #976 posted 08/01/12 4:34pm

Azz

claudiax said:

MESSAGE FROM GRACE RWARAMBA

In January of 1997, Michael Jackson asked me to leave my job as Personnel Director at MJJ Productions and help him take care of a son that would be born a month later. That son was Prince. Little did I know that I would spend the next 12 years of my life helping his raise Prince, Paris and Blanket from the moment we brought them home from the hospital.

Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment business, can be a recipe for disaster. We can all probably name several child or young stars who struggled and in some cases failed to move into normal adult lives because of the pressures they faced as children.

The recent drama surrounding Michael’s mother Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and the now public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight’s and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer.

Michael taught his children to respect their elders; Paris and her brothers understand that well. Any parent also knows that children that age will test boundaries and assert themselves in a way that deserves discipline and sometimes an appropriate level of punishment. What Mrs. Knight fails to realize is that Paris is still getting to know her extended family. When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles. They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them. They are now learning to live and exist outside the ‘Michael Jackson bubble.’ There will be growing pains, and the kids, like other kids their age, will make mistakes. They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests. The difference between Paris and all other kids her age is the rest of the world will be watching.

Please, be fair to Paris. Give her the chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father’s eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let’s be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids.

Michael loved his children very much. He gave them the tools they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on twitter or any other social media platform.

Grace Rwaramba

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Reply #977 posted 08/01/12 4:41pm

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claudiax said:

MESSAGE FROM GRACE RWARAMBA

In January of 1997, Michael Jackson asked me to leave my job as Personnel Director at MJJ Productions and help him take care of a son that would be born a month later. That son was Prince. Little did I know that I would spend the next 12 years of my life helping his raise Prince, Paris and Blanket from the moment we brought them home from the hospital.

Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment business, can be a recipe for disaster. We can all probably name several child or young stars who struggled and in some cases failed to move into normal adult lives because of the pressures they faced as children.

The recent drama surrounding Michael’s mother Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and the now public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight’s and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer.

Michael taught his children to respect their elders; Paris and her brothers understand that well. Any parent also knows that children that age will test boundaries and assert themselves in a way that deserves discipline and sometimes an appropriate level of punishment. What Mrs. Knight fails to realize is that Paris is still getting to know her extended family. When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles. They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them. They are now learning to live and exist outside the ‘Michael Jackson bubble.’ There will be growing pains, and the kids, like other kids their age, will make mistakes. They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests. The difference between Paris and all other kids her age is the rest of the world will be watching.

Please, be fair to Paris. Give her the chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father’s eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let’s be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids.

Michael loved his children very much. He gave them the tools they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on twitter or any other social media platform.

Grace Rwaramba

Watch out Grace. Even with a fair and logical letter like this, you're about to be berated Enemy #38. rolleyes

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Reply #978 posted 08/01/12 5:07pm

Azz

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/08/01/raw-janet-jackson-i-didnt-slap-paris

Looks like Janet's lawyer, really went in.

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Reply #979 posted 08/01/12 5:12pm

mookie

claudiax said:

MESSAGE FROM GRACE RWARAMBA

In January of 1997, Michael Jackson asked me to leave my job as Personnel Director at MJJ Productions and help him take care of a son that would be born a month later. That son was Prince. Little did I know that I would spend the next 12 years of my life helping his raise Prince, Paris and Blanket from the moment we brought them home from the hospital.

Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment business, can be a recipe for disaster. We can all probably name several child or young stars who struggled and in some cases failed to move into normal adult lives because of the pressures they faced as children.

The recent drama surrounding Michael’s mother Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and the now public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight’s and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer.

Michael taught his children to respect their elders; Paris and her brothers understand that well. Any parent also knows that children that age will test boundaries and assert themselves in a way that deserves discipline and sometimes an appropriate level of punishment. What Mrs. Knight fails to realize is that Paris is still getting to know her extended family. When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles. They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them. They are now learning to live and exist outside the ‘Michael Jackson bubble.’ There will be growing pains, and the kids, like other kids their age, will make mistakes. They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests. The difference between Paris and all other kids her age is the rest of the world will be watching.

Please, be fair to Paris. Give her the chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father’s eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let’s be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids.

Michael loved his children very much. He gave them the tools they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on twitter or any other social media platform.

Grace Rwaramba

A tad too ass kissy towards the family, for my tastes. Just overall if these grown folks had handled things more better and smarter, Paris wouldn't have had to go to twitter. It's them that fucked up. This kid didn't do anything wrong. I hope she understands this.

What is she supposed to do, let these broke ass relatives screw her and her brothers futures? I mean, come on...

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Reply #980 posted 08/01/12 5:20pm

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mookie said:

claudiax said:

MESSAGE FROM GRACE RWARAMBA

In January of 1997, Michael Jackson asked me to leave my job as Personnel Director at MJJ Productions and help him take care of a son that would be born a month later. That son was Prince. Little did I know that I would spend the next 12 years of my life helping his raise Prince, Paris and Blanket from the moment we brought them home from the hospital.

Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment business, can be a recipe for disaster. We can all probably name several child or young stars who struggled and in some cases failed to move into normal adult lives because of the pressures they faced as children.

The recent drama surrounding Michael’s mother Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and the now public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight’s and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer.

Michael taught his children to respect their elders; Paris and her brothers understand that well. Any parent also knows that children that age will test boundaries and assert themselves in a way that deserves discipline and sometimes an appropriate level of punishment. What Mrs. Knight fails to realize is that Paris is still getting to know her extended family. When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles. They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them. They are now learning to live and exist outside the ‘Michael Jackson bubble.’ There will be growing pains, and the kids, like other kids their age, will make mistakes. They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests. The difference between Paris and all other kids her age is the rest of the world will be watching.

Please, be fair to Paris. Give her the chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father’s eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let’s be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids.

Michael loved his children very much. He gave them the tools they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on twitter or any other social media platform.

Grace Rwaramba

A tad too ass kissy towards the family, for my tastes. Just overall if these grown folks had handled things more better and smarter, Paris wouldn't have had to go to twitter. It's them that fucked up. This kid didn't do anything wrong. I hope she understands this.

What is she supposed to do, let these broke ass relatives screw her and her brothers futures? I mean, come on...

That's what legal guardians of children are supposed to be for...

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Reply #981 posted 08/01/12 5:27pm

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Why the hell is this thread so damn long? Is she still missing or something?? I don't follow The Jacksons.
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Reply #982 posted 08/01/12 5:40pm

SoulAlive

I hope that Janet,Jermaine,Randy and Rebbie learned their lesson.Through their actions,they created the summer's biggest celebrity scandal.That's nothing to be proud of confused

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Reply #983 posted 08/01/12 5:41pm

Azz

Brace yourself; Randy is Tweeting.

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Reply #984 posted 08/01/12 6:15pm

kibbles

WaterInYourBath said:

claudiax said:

MESSAGE FROM GRACE RWARAMBA

In January of 1997, Michael Jackson asked me to leave my job as Personnel Director at MJJ Productions and help him take care of a son that would be born a month later. That son was Prince. Little did I know that I would spend the next 12 years of my life helping his raise Prince, Paris and Blanket from the moment we brought them home from the hospital.

Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment business, can be a recipe for disaster. We can all probably name several child or young stars who struggled and in some cases failed to move into normal adult lives because of the pressures they faced as children.

The recent drama surrounding Michael’s mother Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and the now public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight’s and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer.

Michael taught his children to respect their elders; Paris and her brothers understand that well. Any parent also knows that children that age will test boundaries and assert themselves in a way that deserves discipline and sometimes an appropriate level of punishment. What Mrs. Knight fails to realize is that Paris is still getting to know her extended family. When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles. They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them. They are now learning to live and exist outside the ‘Michael Jackson bubble.’ There will be growing pains, and the kids, like other kids their age, will make mistakes. They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests. The difference between Paris and all other kids her age is the rest of the world will be watching.

Please, be fair to Paris. Give her the chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father’s eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let’s be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids.

Michael loved his children very much. He gave them the tools they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on twitter or any other social media platform.

Grace Rwaramba

Watch out Grace. Even with a fair and logical letter like this, you're about to be berated Enemy #38. rolleyes

yeah well, that's what happens when you post ridiculous shit on your facebook page.

if grace was so concerned about the kids, she wouldn't be telling out right lies about the family wanting what's best for them. most of that family wants what's best FOR THEM, they couldn't give two shits about mj3. she was around mj for 12 years, i'm sure she knows that family was like kryptonite to him so why is she defending them?

paris should not have 700K followers on twitter. but who's fucking fault is that? if any one in that family gave two shits about this girl, she wouldn't be on twitter 24/7 in the first damn place. i would think she'd be being encouraged to pursue more worthy activities, but that's what happens when you're surrounded by idiots. grace admits she knew how mj went to ridiculous lengths to guard his children's privacy and yet she's giving paris a hard time about having followers on twitter? again, who's fucking fault is that?

never mind, she does at least say that mj gave them the tools to become good and decent individuals. prince confirmed that when he tweeted that mj had told them the real deal about his "family", so as long as he remembers that, they'll be okay.

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Reply #985 posted 08/01/12 6:16pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Michael Jackson's Former Nanny: He Tried To Protect His Kids From This Drama

Michael Jackson's long time nanny, Grace Rwaramba, is speaking out about the ongoing Jackson family drama, telling RadarOnline.com exclusively that the recent turmoil is exactly what the late singer had tried so hard to protect his three children from while he was alive.

Grace began working for Jackson in 1997, and continued to work on and off for the King of Pop for the next decade, including after he tragically died in 2009.

In an exclusive statement to RadarOnline.com, Grace says, "Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment industry can be disaster...The recent drama surrounding Michael's mother, Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and now the public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer."

Read Grace Rwaramba's Sta...mily Drama

As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Judge Mitchell Beckloff, stripped the Jackson family matriarch of her guardianship of the three children because no one could reach her for more than a week. The judge said he made the ruling not because of any wrongdoing on Katherine's behalf, but because she had been prevented from fulfilling her guardianship duties by an "intentional act from third parties."

The children have been embroiled in a vicious family struggle for more than a week now as Randy, Jermaine and Janet Jackson battle over the late King of Pop's will, which they claim is fake. Michael's nephew TJ has been a constant presence in the children's lives and their attorney stated in court that they had no objections to him being appointed temporary guardian.

The Jackson siblings made news last week after security video from the house where Michael's children live was released and showed Janet getting into an altercation with Paris Jackson over the teen's cell phone. Janet physically tried to take the 14-year-old's cell phone from her, and the children watched in horror as Jermaine and Randy got into a physical altercation with Trent, who is Joe Jackson's nephew.

Rwaramba asks that the public be fair to Paris Jackson and "give her a chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father's eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let's be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids. Michael loved his children very much. He gave them tools that they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what's best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on Twitter or any other social media platform."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/michael-jackson-nanny-begs-family-drama-kids

Read Grace's full statement here:

http://www.radaronline.co...-Paris.pdf

I read the full statement and its very good, I wish I could copy and paste the whole thing but I cant. Everyone should read her statement as it gives another view into the family dynamic and how the kids were raised. I'm glad she came to Paris's defense instead of judging and criticizing her like other people have done. smile


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[Edited 8/1/12 14:04pm]

Thanks Naughty.... Grace statements are very true. She is so articulate!!!!

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Reply #986 posted 08/01/12 6:27pm

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lowkey said:

i will be really disappointed if randy,janet and rebbie backtrack like tito and jermaine bitch asses. if you believe it stand by it, they signed the letter, taking there names off dont change that.jermaine sounds stupid saying he's removing his signature but he still believe some things aint right with the estate. they all need to stay off twitter, who told jermaine he had to make a public statement, why couldnt he just call the executors or whoever? this reminds me of the time when the family wrote a letter denying mike's drug problems and they all signed except janet,randy and rebbie. if they believe what they wrote then they should stand by it, who gives a shit what mj fans or the media want. im glad janet didnt come out with no statement defending herself against that bogus story about slapping paris, she let her lawyers handle it.

too bad she didn't have the insight to retain the same lawyer when she attached her name to the letter in the first place, amirite?

yeah, let her stand with it, no matter the lie about the stroke. hey, who cares if it never happened (note that not even jermaine is trying to tell that story). stand by it, no matter that you've now placed your mother's guardianship in danger, not to mention her money. stand by it, even though you have no proof whatsoever that the execs have stolen anything or that they've mismanaged your brothers estate b/c even stevie can see that they've turned the estate around in record time. stand by it, even though the estate papers show that your mother has been given over $6 million last year to assist her with her debts (particularly the ones that probably paid off some of your trifling brothers back child support). stand by it when you can only stare from across the street b/c you can't even step ONE FOOT in your mother's home.

yes, janet, stand by the lie, 'cause that would be the smart thing to do.

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Reply #987 posted 08/01/12 7:01pm

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Azz said:

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/08/01/raw-janet-jackson-i-didnt-slap-paris

Looks like Janet's lawyer, really went in.

Yeah, and I'm so glad she did. That was a straight up, BOLD-FACED lie. Nothing happened in that video that even warranted a mention, much less a media-fabricated lie like assault. She should consider suing.

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Reply #988 posted 08/01/12 7:06pm

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SoulAlive said:

I hope that Janet,Jermaine,Randy and Rebbie learned their lesson.Through their actions,they created the summer's biggest celebrity scandal.That's nothing to be proud of confused

The embarrasing thing is that ALL of these people thought that they were so smart that they could pull the wool over the public, media and their fans. Janet became involved because the thought that her presence would lend credibility and the media and public wouldn't DARE to question her. Remember, she is supposed to be worth 150 million and she thought nobody is going to say that she needs the money. The problem is that this attempted coup or attempt to overthrow Michael's estate would have worked IF IT HAD NOT BEEN for Michael's two children. CHILDREN derailed this plot and that is the embarrassing thing for Janet, Randy, Rebbie and Jermaine. Now they are ALL looking like trash from the Jerry Springer Show. All are hanging their tails between their legs and spinning this shit and doing damage control. Janet threatened to sue TMZ for saying that SHE didn't slap Paris or curse her out. I wonder why this heifer didn't add that neither did Paris curse HER out. This has been the problem with the reaction from Jackson Defenders, TMZ lied and said that this young girl cussed out Janet. Gladys Knight reacted to that LIE without even trying to find out if it was true. I have no respect for these cowards-Janet or Jermaine. I am just waiting for the other two punk ass bitches to release their cowardly statememts. Neither of their statements mean shit because everybody knows that they were trying to overthrow the estate. Fuck both of them.

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Reply #989 posted 08/01/12 7:13pm

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kibbles said:

lowkey said:

i will be really disappointed if randy,janet and rebbie backtrack like tito and jermaine bitch asses. if you believe it stand by it, they signed the letter, taking there names off dont change that.jermaine sounds stupid saying he's removing his signature but he still believe some things aint right with the estate. they all need to stay off twitter, who told jermaine he had to make a public statement, why couldnt he just call the executors or whoever? this reminds me of the time when the family wrote a letter denying mike's drug problems and they all signed except janet,randy and rebbie. if they believe what they wrote then they should stand by it, who gives a shit what mj fans or the media want. im glad janet didnt come out with no statement defending herself against that bogus story about slapping paris, she let her lawyers handle it.

too bad she didn't have the insight to retain the same lawyer when she attached her name to the letter in the first place, amirite?

yeah, let her stand with it, no matter the lie about the stroke. hey, who cares if it never happened (note that not even jermaine is trying to tell that story). stand by it, no matter that you've now placed your mother's guardianship in danger, not to mention her money. stand by it, even though you have no proof whatsoever that the execs have stolen anything or that they've mismanaged your brothers estate b/c even stevie can see that they've turned the estate around in record time. stand by it, even though the estate papers show that your mother has been given over $6 million last year to assist her with her debts (particularly the ones that probably paid off some of your trifling brothers back child support). stand by it when you can only stare from across the street b/c you can't even step ONE FOOT in your mother's home.

yes, janet, stand by the lie, 'cause that would be the smart thing to do.

Yeah, amazing that this fake heifer didn't even address the shit that she, randy, jermaine and rebbie plotted. I guess the only thing that she could do was to take the attention off of what REALLY happened and how she and the other idiots FAILED, BIG TIME! The fact that she didn't even address that Paris never cursed her, makes me dislike her even more.

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