is bad tour still comming in 2012 ? if so , late or early in the year ?

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm sending a list of ideas to the MJ Estate and I just revised my idea for Bad 25 after seeing the "Immersion" edition of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon"

DISC 1 – CD 1:

The Dark Side Of The Moon digitally remastered by James Guthrie 2011

DISC 2 – CD 2:

The Dark Side Of The Moon performed live at Wembley in 1974 (2011 Mix and previously unreleased)

DISC 3 – DVD 1, ALL AUDIO:

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, James Guthrie 2003 5.1 Surround Mix (previously released only on SACD) in standard resolution audio at 448 kbps

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, James Guthrie 2003 5.1 Surround Mix (previously released only on SACD) in high resolution audio at 640 kbps

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, LPCM Stereo mix (as disc 1)

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, Alan Parsons Quad Mix (previously released only on vinyl LP/8 track tape in 1973) in standard resolution audio at 448 kbps

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, Alan Parsons Quad Mix (previously released only on vinyl LP/8 track tape in 1973) in high resolution audio at 640 kbps

DISC 4 - DVD 2, ALL AUDIO VISUAL:

-Live In Brighton 1972:

Careful With That Axe, Eugene (previously unreleased on DVD)

Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun (previously unreleased on DVD)

-The Dark Side Of The Moon, 2003 documentary (25 min EPK)

-Concert Screen Films (60 min total):

British Tour 1974

French Tour 1974

North American Tour 1975

Screen films play in stereo and 5.1 Surround Sound

DISC 5 – BLURAY, AUDIO+AUDIO VISUAL

-AUDIO: The Dark Side Of The Moon, James Guthrie 2003 5.1 Surround Mix (previously released only on SACD) in high resolution audio at 96 kHz/24-bit

-AUDIO: The Dark Side Of The Moon, Original stereo mix (1973) mastered in high resolution audio at 96 kHz/24-bit

-AUDIO VISUAL: Live In Brighton 1972:

Careful With That Axe, Eugene (previously unreleased on DVD/BluRay)

Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun (previously unreleased on DVD/BluRay)

-AUDIO VISUAL: The Dark Side Of The Moon, 2003 documentary (EPK)

-AUDIO VISUAL: Concert Screen Films (5.1 Surround Mix):

British Tour 1974

French Tour 1974

North American Tour 1975

-AUDIO VISUAL: Concert Screen Films (High Resolution Stereo Mix):

British Tour 1974

French Tour 1974

North American Tour 1975

DISC 6 - CD3:

-The Dark Side Of The Moon 1972 Early Album Mix engineered by Alan Parsons (previously unreleased)

- The Hard Way (from ‘Household Objects’ project)

- Us And Them, Richard Wright Demo (previously unreleased)

- The Travel Sequence, live from Brighton June 1972 (previously unreleased)

- The Mortality Sequence, live from Brighton June 1972 (previously unreleased)

- Any Colour You Like, live from Brighton June 1972 (previously unreleased)

- The Travel Sequence, studio recording 1972 (previously unreleased)

- Money, Roger Waters’ demo (previously unreleased)

40 page 27cm x 27cm booklet designed by Storm Thorgerson

Exclusive photo book edited by Jill Furmanovsky

27cm x 27cm Exclusive Storm Thorgerson Art Print

5 x Collectors’ Cards featuring art and comments by Storm Thorgerson

Replica of The Dark Side Of The Moon Tour Ticket

Replica of The Dark Side Of The Moon Backstage Pass

Scarf

3 x Black marbles

9 x Coasters (unique to this box) featuring early Storm Thorgerson design sketches

12 page credits booklet

imagine something like that for either Bad, Thriller, or Off The Wall

how do you send an idea to the MJ Estate, i have 2 or 3 GREAT ideas that i know all of us Michael Lovers Will enjoy.

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm sending a list of ideas to the MJ Estate and I just revised my idea for Bad 25 after seeing the "Immersion" edition of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon"

DISC 1 – CD 1:

The Dark Side Of The Moon digitally remastered by James Guthrie 2011

DISC 2 – CD 2:

The Dark Side Of The Moon performed live at Wembley in 1974 (2011 Mix and previously unreleased)

DISC 3 – DVD 1, ALL AUDIO:

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, James Guthrie 2003 5.1 Surround Mix (previously released only on SACD) in standard resolution audio at 448 kbps

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, James Guthrie 2003 5.1 Surround Mix (previously released only on SACD) in high resolution audio at 640 kbps

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, LPCM Stereo mix (as disc 1)

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, Alan Parsons Quad Mix (previously released only on vinyl LP/8 track tape in 1973) in standard resolution audio at 448 kbps

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, Alan Parsons Quad Mix (previously released only on vinyl LP/8 track tape in 1973) in high resolution audio at 640 kbps

DISC 4 - DVD 2, ALL AUDIO VISUAL:

-Live In Brighton 1972:

Careful With That Axe, Eugene (previously unreleased on DVD)

Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun (previously unreleased on DVD)

-The Dark Side Of The Moon, 2003 documentary (25 min EPK)

-Concert Screen Films (60 min total):

British Tour 1974

French Tour 1974

North American Tour 1975

Screen films play in stereo and 5.1 Surround Sound

DISC 5 – BLURAY, AUDIO+AUDIO VISUAL

-AUDIO: The Dark Side Of The Moon, James Guthrie 2003 5.1 Surround Mix (previously released only on SACD) in high resolution audio at 96 kHz/24-bit

-AUDIO: The Dark Side Of The Moon, Original stereo mix (1973) mastered in high resolution audio at 96 kHz/24-bit

-AUDIO VISUAL: Live In Brighton 1972:

Careful With That Axe, Eugene (previously unreleased on DVD/BluRay)

Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun (previously unreleased on DVD/BluRay)

-AUDIO VISUAL: The Dark Side Of The Moon, 2003 documentary (EPK)

-AUDIO VISUAL: Concert Screen Films (5.1 Surround Mix):

British Tour 1974

French Tour 1974

North American Tour 1975

-AUDIO VISUAL: Concert Screen Films (High Resolution Stereo Mix):

British Tour 1974

French Tour 1974

North American Tour 1975

DISC 6 - CD3:

-The Dark Side Of The Moon 1972 Early Album Mix engineered by Alan Parsons (previously unreleased)

- The Hard Way (from ‘Household Objects’ project)

- Us And Them, Richard Wright Demo (previously unreleased)

- The Travel Sequence, live from Brighton June 1972 (previously unreleased)

- The Mortality Sequence, live from Brighton June 1972 (previously unreleased)

- Any Colour You Like, live from Brighton June 1972 (previously unreleased)

- The Travel Sequence, studio recording 1972 (previously unreleased)

- Money, Roger Waters’ demo (previously unreleased)

40 page 27cm x 27cm booklet designed by Storm Thorgerson

Exclusive photo book edited by Jill Furmanovsky

27cm x 27cm Exclusive Storm Thorgerson Art Print

5 x Collectors’ Cards featuring art and comments by Storm Thorgerson

Replica of The Dark Side Of The Moon Tour Ticket

Replica of The Dark Side Of The Moon Backstage Pass

Scarf

3 x Black marbles

9 x Coasters (unique to this box) featuring early Storm Thorgerson design sketches

12 page credits booklet

imagine something like that for either Bad, Thriller, or Off The Wall

That would be interesting indeed....

bboy87 said:

I definitely agree with thesexofit. The estate and Sony aren't marketing any of these releases to the fanbase or music fans. They're marketing them to casual listeners and kids. Fans would drool over a huge boxset dedicated to Off The Wall or that cancelled 5.1 surround sound edition of Thriller but instead, we get bullshit

I think he left behind a lot of unreleased material. Not a vault of thousands of tapes, but I think he left behind enough music for a couple of albums and inclusions on boxsets. Hell, they could release a set with just demos and I'd be happy

I do think MJ has quite a few records kept away, but I highly believe a lot of them are just demos and unfinished. If I could estimate, this is how I would predict the finished (unreleased) records from each session

Off The Wall - I'm guessing between 7-10 finished outtakes

Thriller - Not including the leaked songs, but between 10-15 finished outtakes

Bad - Between 7-10 finished outtakes

Dangerous - Well over 30 finished outtakes

HIStory - About 3-7 finished outtakes

Invincible - Well over 20 finished outtakes

I say "finished" because I think the rest are unfinished lyrics and melodies. Not including songs recorded for no particular album

I would LOVE to hear any outtakes from Off The Wall but I have a feeling there really isn't that many. I don't think the production for OTW took that long plus Quincy probably rejected demos submitted before MJ did any vocals on them. My guess is there might be 2 outtakes we haven't heard from OTW. That's about it. And they probably aren't that strong.

I was pleasantly surprised with Sunset Driver, I hope we get something great like that if there are outtakes from OTW

Goin' To Rio is probably one outtake that was recorded. I have no clue about any others. Maybe somebody else has a list? The thing is, we have no idea if anything was recorded, even with a list.

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

I definitely agree with thesexofit. The estate and Sony aren't marketing any of these releases to the fanbase or music fans. They're marketing them to casual listeners and kids. Fans would drool over a huge boxset dedicated to Off The Wall or that cancelled 5.1 surround sound edition of Thriller but instead, we get bullshit

I think he left behind a lot of unreleased material. Not a vault of thousands of tapes, but I think he left behind enough music for a couple of albums and inclusions on boxsets. Hell, they could release a set with just demos and I'd be happy

I do think MJ has quite a few records kept away, but I highly believe a lot of them are just demos and unfinished. If I could estimate, this is how I would predict the finished (unreleased) records from each session

Off The Wall - I'm guessing between 7-10 finished outtakes

Thriller - Not including the leaked songs, but between 10-15 finished outtakes

Bad - Between 7-10 finished outtakes

Dangerous - Well over 30 finished outtakes

HIStory - About 3-7 finished outtakes

Invincible - Well over 20 finished outtakes

I say "finished" because I think the rest are unfinished lyrics and melodies. Not including songs recorded for no particular album

We still don't know everything , and the freaking estate hasn't given us any information regarding that issue , I really need to know how many songs are finished , and how many aren't !

Last time I heard , the estate is still searching for material and asking producers to hand and disclose any material Mj did with them , we don't know if they collected the whole material or not !

it's pretty depressing , I need to know

Derek1984 said:

Goin' To Rio is probably one outtake that was recorded. I have no clue about any others. Maybe somebody else has a list? The thing is, we have no idea if anything was recorded, even with a list.

In the life of chico

Kentucky

What a lonely way to go

and I'm sure there is more songs recorded

Songs that Mj recorded but never made the cut.........

Song offered by sisqo - Can I live ( For the Invincible album )

Song offered by R.kelly -Heaven's Girl ( for the History album)

I'm on pins and needles with the trial. I want Michael to win so badly and for Murrass to go to jail, I'm havign an anxiety attack from hell worrying about it.

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

I definitely agree with thesexofit. The estate and Sony aren't marketing any of these releases to the fanbase or music fans. They're marketing them to casual listeners and kids. Fans would drool over a huge boxset dedicated to Off The Wall or that cancelled 5.1 surround sound edition of Thriller but instead, we get bullshit

I think he left behind a lot of unreleased material. Not a vault of thousands of tapes, but I think he left behind enough music for a couple of albums and inclusions on boxsets. Hell, they could release a set with just demos and I'd be happy

I do think MJ has quite a few records kept away, but I highly believe a lot of them are just demos and unfinished. If I could estimate, this is how I would predict the finished (unreleased) records from each session

Off The Wall - I'm guessing between 7-10 finished outtakes

Thriller - Not including the leaked songs, but between 10-15 finished outtakes

Bad - Between 7-10 finished outtakes

Dangerous - Well over 30 finished outtakes

HIStory - About 3-7 finished outtakes

Invincible - Well over 20 finished outtakes

I say "finished" because I think the rest are unfinished lyrics and melodies. Not including songs recorded for no particular album

And you know Michael's unfinished demos and outtakes are sometimes more finished than the average artist's

guarinigirl2000 said:

I'm on pins and needles with the trial. I want Michael to win so badly and for Murrass to go to jail, I'm havign an anxiety attack from hell worrying about it.

Well, watch back today's testimony. That will help you calm down cause the defence is presenting false evidence and witnesses who do not respond in cross examination and have to be admonished by the judge. Today was just unbelievable.

I've always wondered what "That Girl" sounded like. I think that was an outtake for Destiny or Triumph? Does anybody ever ask the brothers about stuff like this?

Derek1984 said:

I've always wondered what "That Girl" sounded like. I think that was an outtake for Destiny or Triumph? Does anybody ever ask the brothers about stuff like this?

It was originally recorded in 1978 for Destiny but I think it was considered for Triumph too. That and "Slipped Away" has always been on my list. There's a couple of outtakes that I would love to hear RIGHT NOW

Slipped Away

Groove Of Midnight

A Place With No Name

the original version of Behind The Mask

Under Your Skin

Tomboy

The Price of Fame
Michael McKeller

I Am A Loser

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

I do think MJ has quite a few records kept away, but I highly believe a lot of them are just demos and unfinished. If I could estimate, this is how I would predict the finished (unreleased) records from each session

Off The Wall - I'm guessing between 7-10 finished outtakes

Thriller - Not including the leaked songs, but between 10-15 finished outtakes

Bad - Between 7-10 finished outtakes

Dangerous - Well over 30 finished outtakes

HIStory - About 3-7 finished outtakes

Invincible - Well over 20 finished outtakes

I say "finished" because I think the rest are unfinished lyrics and melodies. Not including songs recorded for no particular album

And you know Michael's unfinished demos and outtakes are sometimes more finished than the average artist's

i Would love for them releasing the "unfinished" or "demos",

i quite enjoy the demos that were put out on this is it, and the few that was on the off the wall special edition.

i honestly just want them to release EVERYTHING.

I remember Can I Live and thinking it's overproduced, but once I loved it, I ended up buying the album, and remember Sisqo being inspired by OTW and Thriller. I definitely heard the influence on some of the other album cuts and liked those better. I had no clue it was offered to MJ though. That R.Kelly is song is really pretty, would have made a really nice HIStory cut though YANA has a meaningful message too.

Though I want justice for MJ so badly, I already know neither outcome is going to bring him back, and knowing you're responsible for MJ's death is a life sentence itself. He won't even get the time he deserves.

[Edited 10/27/11 16:01pm]

bboy87 said:

With the estate confirming that a 25th anniversary edition of Bad is on the way, how would you guys like to see it released? In a deluxe boxset (more expensive) or would you like to see them do a simple re-release with a few outtakes similar to the 2001 special edition (cheaper)

Been away for a few days so am catching up on a few things....

BAD 25th Anniversary - give it some love I say. We've already had the special editions, give us the true deluxe boxset - with demos, remixes, unreleased stuff.

Look at how U2 are rereleasing Actung Baby as a guide for how things should be done.

Michael's music deserves proper attention to detail in pulling together serious boxsets.

There has to be a Bad tour in Wembley released, with all good quality released performances, or I will NOT be a happy camper! And every Bad outtake has been very satisfying, so I wan to hear more of those.

Derek1984 said:

I've always wondered what "That Girl" sounded like. I think that was an outtake for Destiny or Triumph? Does anybody ever ask the brothers about stuff like this?

Mike did confirm that outtakes like "Thank You For Life" and "Why Can't I Be" sound similar to "The Girl is Mine".

I'd love to hear Destiny, OTW and Triumph outtakes. There so close to eachother in terms of recording sessions so i'm sure they're pretty funky!

[Edited 10/27/11 21:34pm]

I wonder if the audio or full transcript from his deposition in Chicago will ever surface. They played a lot of unreleased records during that deposition.

[Edited 10/27/11 21:37pm]

ViintageJunkiie said:

Derek1984 said:

I've always wondered what "That Girl" sounded like. I think that was an outtake for Destiny or Triumph? Does anybody ever ask the brothers about stuff like this?

Mike did confirm that outtakes like "Thank You For Life" and "Why Can't I Be" sound similar to "The Girl is Mine".

I'd love to hear Destiny, OTW and Triumph outtakes. There so close to eachother in terms of recording sessions so i'm sure they're pretty funky!

[Edited 10/27/11 21:34pm]

I would LOVE to hear those, he was on fire those years...and not literally!

I wonder if we'll ever get to hear any of these demos and outtakes. Who knows what the Estate has in their possession. And they could easily update these songs and we'll never get to hear the original's as they were left.

Why can't the Estate just release a boxed set of unreleased songs left untouched? I don't understand what the Estate is waiting for. Just release what they have. We probably won't hear Buffalo Bill until 2025 and it will be remixed by whatever artist is popular at the time.

[Edited 10/28/11 6:11am]

I was re-listening to Can I Live after so long today, and he sings something about wanting Privacy! I wonder if this song was MJ's inspiration for writing Privacy for himself, or if this song was written with MJ in mind after he wrote his song.

Derek1984 said:

I wonder if we'll ever get to hear any of these demos and outtakes. Who knows what the Estate has in their possession. And they could easily update these songs and we'll never get to hear the original's as they were left.

Why can't the Estate just release a boxed set of unreleased songs left untouched? I don't understand what the Estate is waiting for. Just release what they have. We probably won't hear Buffalo Bill until 2025 and it will be remixed by whatever artist is popular at the time.

[Edited 10/28/11 6:11am]

I believe we will hear a lot of the demos but expect them to be remixed and over-produced. Just not sure when we'll get them. I think every fan is dying to hear Buffalo Bill! All we know is the hook...

"Who shot Buffalo Bill? They said he shot a lot, did he ever get killed?"

If you're going to update a song in the vault, why not also give us the original version as it was left? Case in point, Behind The Mask. That was released as a single. So why not include as a B-side the original version circa 1982? I don't get it.

Thanks gyus for he support. I had to turn away from the tv because Murray's ugly face always makes my stomach spoil.

I saw the MJ towel. I thought it was a blanket. I have a custom made MJ blanket, but I could never imagine using Michael Jackson on a towel to dry off. The real Michael Jackson if he were still here, SURE, but him on a towel, NAH.

I'll just sleep with him.

On the blanket.