mjscarousal said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Puh-leeease! Why is this even a topic to be responded to?!

Thats the same thing I said... Its like these people never get tired of talking about Beyonce. Most of these topics are not even worth discussing and yes I understand I dont have to respond But GOT DAMN like seriously all these Beyonce threads are ridiculous. And the questions been dumb as shit just to get a rise out of people.

What kind of fuckin comparision is this? Janet and Beyonce ... what the hell?

Next thread will be on Beyonce is greater than the Beatles

Beyonce appears at a Restaurant

Beyonce has more grammys than Prince

Beyonce baby is a chimpmunk

WHO DA FUCK CARESSS .. making all these damn worthless laughable dumb ass threads

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[Edited 9/25/11 0:51am]

I'm just gonna chalk it up to some of y'all not being old enough to know the exact type of impact that Janet had on the pop music world as a whole. Don't you know that she is one of the major archetypes of the modern-day dance/pop diva? Her videos and personal style are what cultivated your Britneys, your Rihannas, your Ciaras, your Aaliyahs, your Myas, your Kellys, your BEYONCEs. Janet was making hits when Beyonce was still bossing Kelly Rowland and Co. around in her mommy and daddy's backyard while singing into a hairbrush. I'm a fan of Beyonce, and I'm not taking anything from her, but she still has not obtained the kind of pop culture and icon status that Janet has, period. She admitted herself that a "so-called" group she used to be in called the Smooth Dancers got all their moves from Janet, among other things. Watch this clip from 1:00 to 1:36...

The RHYTHM NATION era was a pop culture phenomenon in and of itself, and Beyonce has not had an era, "Single Ladies" included, to match the sheer impact that Janet at her true peak had (if YouTube had been around during the RN/janet. era, there'd be people on there spoofing those videos, too). Besides the janet. album's cover being copied and imitated, the RN era was imitated and spoofed as well...

@3:26 in this clip

Kim Fields dressed as RN-era Janet in the "Back in the Day" episode of "Living Single"

people dressed in their RN garb

there were RN novelties

Rhythm Nation "Hello Kitty"

Rhythm Nation is still paid homage to some 22 years later in Keri Hilson's "Pretty Girl Rock" video...

In 1993, t-shirts were ablaze with the slogan...

As for Janet covering mostly African-American-targeted magazines, well, she has covered many more magazines than ones that specifically cater to the African-American market, and these are just some...

Janet has covered Rolling Stone three times. Besides Tina Turner, that's more than any other Black female artist if my calculations are correct...

Her appeal is global. Here's a sketch drawn of her by students at Australia's Marrickville High School

Her Russian fanclub wishing her a happy birthday

German fans are overcome with emotion when meeting her from 1:50-2:15

Fans in London

Surprising a group of Japanese fans

"Pleasure Principle" has been paid tribute to...

...and so has "Feedback"

Drag performers and impersonators from all over imitate her

Janet, during her peak, signed THEE biggest record deal ever by an artist--twice. She won more Billboard awards than any other artist in history--a record she still holds. She sold out arenas the world over in record time.

And then, of course, there's the catchphrase "...Janet, Miss Jackson if ya Nasty" that people still refer to today. Hell, if you wanna talk pop culture iconography, there was even a TV show based on "Nasty" back in the '80s. The show's theme song was "Nasty".

Janet's peak vs. Beyonce's peak happened at different places in time. Beyonce has the benefit of peaking in the YouTube/Twitter/Itunes world, so her sales and chart placements have an easier road than the more analogue route Janet had at her peak. Still, Janet achieved what she did without being in a group, and without the benefit of modern technology by her side. That says a lot in and of itself.

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Seanman strikes again!

purplethunder3121 said:

Seanman strikes again!

SEANMAN said:

I'm just gonna chalk it up to some of y'all not being old enough to know the exact type of impact that Janet had on the pop music world as a whole. Don't you know that she is one of the major archetypes of the modern-day dance/pop diva? Her videos and personal style are what cultivated your Britneys, your Rihannas, your Ciaras, your Aaliyahs, your Myas, your Kellys, your BEYONCEs. Janet was making hits when Beyonce was still bossing Kelly Rowland and Co. around in her mommy and daddy's backyard while singing into a hairbrush. I'm a fan of Beyonce, and I'm not taking anything from her, but she still has not obtained the kind of pop culture and icon status that Janet has, period. She admitted herself that a "so-called" group she used to be in called the Smooth Dancers got all their moves from Janet, among other things. Watch this clip from 1:00 to 1:36...

The RHYTHM NATION era was a pop culture phenomenon in and of itself, and Beyonce has not had an era, "Single Ladies" included, to match the sheer impact that Janet at her true peak had (if YouTube had been around during the RN/janet. era, there'd be people on there spoofing those videos, too). Besides the janet. album's cover being copied and imitated, the RN era was imitated and spoofed as well...

@3:26 in this clip

Kim Fields dressed as RN-era Janet in the "Back in the Day" episode of "Living Single"

people dressed in their RN garb

there were RN novelties

Rhythm Nation "Hello Kitty"

Rhythm Nation is still paid homage to some 22 years later in Keri Hilson's "Pretty Girl Rock" video...

In 1993, t-shirts were ablaze with the slogan...

As for Janet covering mostly African-American-targeted magazines, well, she has covered many more magazines than ones that specifically cater to the African-American market, and these are just some...

Janet has covered Rolling Stone three times. Besides Tina Turner, that's more than any other Black female artist if my calculations are correct...

Her appeal is global. Here's a sketch drawn of her by students at Australia's Marrickville High School

Her Russian fanclub wishing her a happy birthday

German fans are overcome with emotion when meeting her from 1:50-2:15

Fans in London

Surprising a group of Japanese fans

"Pleasure Principle" has been paid tribute to...

...and so has "Feedback"

Drag performers and impersonators from all over imitate her

Janet, during her peak, signed THEE biggest record deal ever by an artist--twice. She won more Billboard awards than any other artist in history--a record she still holds. She sold out arenas the world over in record time.

And then, of course, there's the catchphrase "...Janet, Miss Jackson if ya Nasty" that people still refer to today. Hell, if you wanna talk pop culture iconography, there was even a TV show based on "Nasty" back in the '80s

Janet's peak vs. Beyonce's peak happened at different places in time. Beyonce has the benefit of peaking in the YouTube/Twitter/Itunes world, so her sales and chart placements have an easier road than the more analogue route Janet had at her peak. Still, Janet achieved what she did without being in a group, and without the benefit of modern technology by her side. That says a lot in and of itself.

All you did was post pictures of Janet Jackson; it proves nothing and does not support your

claim that she was bigger than Beyonce. I could easily post a slew of pictures that feature

Beyonce on the cover of a magazine and that would mean absolutely nothing as well. One

could argue that Beyonce has been on more magazine covers, more commercials and more

movies than Janet Jackson.

And regardless of having the assistance of modern technology or not, because Beyonce does

have the assistance of modern technology, she is bigger than Janet Jackson was. That in and

of itself answers the question posed - "not who would be bigger than the other, minus modern

technology?"

I have no horse in this race, but most of y'all are really just saying:

I like Janet Jackson more than I like Beyonce/I don't like Beyonce as much as I like Janet Jackson.

being the curious woman i sometime am, i started wondering who's hands were being a bra for Janet's breast. so to keep up on my fact finding rep, i found my answer.

Janet Jackson Discusses her (semi) Nude 'Rolling Stone' cover

Jul 21st 2010

http://www.theboombox.com...one-cover/

Janet Jackson fielded some questions about her iconic Rolling Stone cover during an interview on BBC America's 'The Graham Norton Show.' The titular host made a reference to the image of a topless Jackson's breast being held by a pair of disembodied hands, adding that he had always wondered if she knew the person behind her. "Was that some really lucky photographer's assistant?" he joked.
Jackson, visually flustered by the question, played along with good humor, confirming that she did in fact know him (it was actually her then-husband Rene Elizondo Jr.). The other guests joined in as well, one quipping that he hoped the man had "good enough manners to warm his hands first."

imo, Janet has the most beautiful body and a more natural and sultry sexiness (with a touch of that young Janet innocence) than Beyonce.

Beyonce is beautiful, but imo she looks a bit overly manufactured.

duccichucka said:

All you did was post pictures of Janet Jackson; it proves nothing and does not support your

claim that she was bigger than Beyonce. I could easily post a slew of pictures that feature

Beyonce on the cover of a magazine and that would mean absolutely nothing as well. One

could argue that Beyonce has been on more magazine covers, more commercials and more

movies than Janet Jackson.

And regardless of having the assistance of modern technology or not, because Beyonce does

have the assistance of modern technology, she is bigger than Janet Jackson was. That in and

of itself answers the question posed - "not who would be bigger than the other, minus modern

technology?"

I have no horse in this race, but most of y'all are really just saying:

I like Janet Jackson more than I like Beyonce/I don't like Beyonce as much as I like Janet Jackson.

Obviously, you weren't paying attention. What I did was post a myriad a facts as to why the RN/janet. era was as big as anything that Beyonce is doing, using pictures and video clips to illustrate my point--pictures and videos that absolutely support my claim. Janet's peak was at a different time than Beyonce's peak, so it is necessary to speak on "modern technology", and to say otherwise is nothing short of foolish. There was no Itunes when Janet was at her peak selling millions and breaking/establishing records. No Youtube. Exposure is right at the fingertips of the consumer nowadays. In 1989, people had to physically go to the record store to buy an album, single, etc. These days, you can buy an album with a few clicks of a mouse or a button.

And again, why are we even comparing Beyonce with Janet anyway? Compare Bey with her contemporaries, not with a woman who's been a pop icon since the '80s. It's disrespectful to J.

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THIS QUESTION IS HARD TO ANSWER FOR ME SINCE I DIDN'T SEE JANET SHINE DURING THE RN/JANET ERA. PLUS IT WAS NO YOUTUBE, ITUNES, TWITTER, ETC.

I ain't mad at the OP for asking this question. Yes, I was there when Janet reached her peak and became an international superstar. The thing about Janet's peak is that she reached people worldwide and she touched generations! My grandfather knew who Janet was and he was born in the 1920's

Really, the way things have changed, it doesn't seem to be a fair comparison. And for younger people, who weren't born when Janet reached her peak or had a pacifier at the time, her stardom may not seem as impressive. Even if they do their research, it may still seem like Beyonce is larger due to youtube, twitter, internet etc. . .. But, Janet was large, without those things and people are still talking about her today. Jan is still shining today and she has no perfume, no make-up endorsements etc. . .

kellistarr120 said:

I ain't mad at the OP for asking this question. Yes, I was there when Janet reached her peak and became an international superstar. The thing about Janet's peak is that she reached people worldwide and she touched generations! My grandfather knew who Janet was and he was born in the 1920's

Really, the way things have changed, it doesn't seem to be a fair comparison. And for younger people, who weren't born when Janet reached her peak or had a pacifier at the time, her stardom may not seem as impressive. Even if they do their research, it may still seem like Beyonce is larger due to youtube, twitter, internet etc. . .. But, Janet was large, without those things and people are still talking about her today. Jan is still shining today and she has no perfume, no make-up endorsements etc. . .

SEANMAN said:

I'm just gonna chalk it up to some of y'all not being old enough to know the exact type of impact that Janet had on the pop music world as a whole. Don't you know that she is one of the major archetypes of the modern-day dance/pop diva? Her videos and personal style are what cultivated your Britneys, your Rihannas, your Ciaras, your Aaliyahs, your Myas, your Kellys, your BEYONCEs. Janet was making hits when Beyonce was still bossing Kelly Rowland and Co. around in her mommy and daddy's backyard while singing into a hairbrush. I'm a fan of Beyonce, and I'm not taking anything from her, but she still has not obtained the kind of pop culture and icon status that Janet has, period. She admitted herself that a "so-called" group she used to be in called the Smooth Dancers got all their moves from Janet, among other things. Watch this clip from 1:00 to 1:36...

The RHYTHM NATION era was a pop culture phenomenon in and of itself, and Beyonce has not had an era, "Single Ladies" included, to match the sheer impact that Janet at her true peak had (if YouTube had been around during the RN/janet. era, there'd be people on there spoofing those videos, too). Besides the janet. album's cover being copied and imitated, the RN era was imitated and spoofed as well...

@3:26 in this clip

Kim Fields dressed as RN-era Janet in the "Back in the Day" episode of "Living Single"

people dressed in their RN garb

there were RN novelties

Rhythm Nation "Hello Kitty"

Rhythm Nation is still paid homage to some 22 years later in Keri Hilson's "Pretty Girl Rock" video...

In 1993, t-shirts were ablaze with the slogan...

As for Janet covering mostly African-American-targeted magazines, well, she has covered many more magazines than ones that specifically cater to the African-American market, and these are just some...

Janet has covered Rolling Stone three times. Besides Tina Turner, that's more than any other Black female artist if my calculations are correct...

Her appeal is global. Here's a sketch drawn of her by students at Australia's Marrickville High School

Her Russian fanclub wishing her a happy birthday

German fans are overcome with emotion when meeting her from 1:50-2:15

Fans in London

Surprising a group of Japanese fans

"Pleasure Principle" has been paid tribute to...

...and so has "Feedback"

Drag performers and impersonators from all over imitate her

Janet, during her peak, signed THEE biggest record deal ever by an artist--twice. She won more Billboard awards than any other artist in history--a record she still holds. She sold out arenas the world over in record time.

And then, of course, there's the catchphrase "...Janet, Miss Jackson if ya Nasty" that people still refer to today. Hell, if you wanna talk pop culture iconography, there was even a TV show based on "Nasty" back in the '80s

Janet's peak vs. Beyonce's peak happened at different places in time. Beyonce has the benefit of peaking in the YouTube/Twitter/Itunes world, so her sales and chart placements have an easier road than the more analogue route Janet had at her peak. Still, Janet achieved what she did without being in a group, and without the benefit of modern technology by her side. That says a lot in and of itself.

I love Sean's posts.

I think they probably were equally big stars at their peaks, though Janet rules and Beyonce blows chunks.

prodigalfan said:

SEANMAN said:

I'm just gonna chalk it up to some of y'all not being old enough to know the exact type of impact that Janet had on the pop music world as a whole. Don't you know that she is one of the major archetypes of the modern-day dance/pop diva? Her videos and personal style are what cultivated your Britneys, your Rihannas, your Ciaras, your Aaliyahs, your Myas, your Kellys, your BEYONCEs. Janet was making hits when Beyonce was still bossing Kelly Rowland and Co. around in her mommy and daddy's backyard while singing into a hairbrush. I'm a fan of Beyonce, and I'm not taking anything from her, but she still has not obtained the kind of pop culture and icon status that Janet has, period. She admitted herself that a "so-called" group she used to be in called the Smooth Dancers got all their moves from Janet, among other things. Watch this clip from 1:00 to 1:36...

The RHYTHM NATION era was a pop culture phenomenon in and of itself, and Beyonce has not had an era, "Single Ladies" included, to match the sheer impact that Janet at her true peak had (if YouTube had been around during the RN/janet. era, there'd be people on there spoofing those videos, too). Besides the janet. album's cover being copied and imitated, the RN era was imitated and spoofed as well...

@3:26 in this clip

Kim Fields dressed as RN-era Janet in the "Back in the Day" episode of "Living Single"

people dressed in their RN garb

there were RN novelties

Rhythm Nation "Hello Kitty"

Rhythm Nation is still paid homage to some 22 years later in Keri Hilson's "Pretty Girl Rock" video...

In 1993, t-shirts were ablaze with the slogan...

As for Janet covering mostly African-American-targeted magazines, well, she has covered many more magazines than ones that specifically cater to the African-American market, and these are just some...

Janet has covered Rolling Stone three times. Besides Tina Turner, that's more than any other Black female artist if my calculations are correct...

Her appeal is global. Here's a sketch drawn of her by students at Australia's Marrickville High School

Her Russian fanclub wishing her a happy birthday

German fans are overcome with emotion when meeting her from 1:50-2:15

Fans in London

Surprising a group of Japanese fans

"Pleasure Principle" has been paid tribute to...

...and so has "Feedback"

Drag performers and impersonators from all over imitate her

Janet, during her peak, signed THEE biggest record deal ever by an artist--twice. She won more Billboard awards than any other artist in history--a record she still holds. She sold out arenas the world over in record time.

And then, of course, there's the catchphrase "...Janet, Miss Jackson if ya Nasty" that people still refer to today. Hell, if you wanna talk pop culture iconography, there was even a TV show based on "Nasty" back in the '80s

Janet's peak vs. Beyonce's peak happened at different places in time. Beyonce has the benefit of peaking in the YouTube/Twitter/Itunes world, so her sales and chart placements have an easier road than the more analogue route Janet had at her peak. Still, Janet achieved what she did without being in a group, and without the benefit of modern technology by her side. That says a lot in and of itself.

I love Sean's posts.

Thanx!

Janet will always be the biggest female artists ever. She's known everywhere, she's a sex icon, (a hot one at that) known by her basic first name, Has 10 number ones and 27 top 10 hits, Down to Earth, not a copier, ect. Along with her brother, Madonna, and Prince she defines the Billboards hot 100. And more than Madonna if I say so myself. Also has Rolling Stone had a more recognizable cover since Janet Jackson 1993 "The Joy Of Sex"?

I honestly think they are equals.... neither are legends. Both had a helping hand to success whether it was Michael or Destiny's Child. Ehh.

I love Janet like you do, don't get me wrong, but to say Rhythm Nation didn't spead like Single Ladies due to lack of technology like youtube was enough for me to not take the rest of your points seriously though I believe she's an icon too. That limitation did NOT keep Thriller, Billie Jean, Beat It, other MJ music video or dances or fashion, or even other dance crazes before that and after it like the Macarena for example from becoming a crazy phenomenon in a pre-youtube world.

alphastreet said:

I love Janet like you do, don't get me wrong, but to say Rhythm Nation didn't spead like Single Ladies due to lack of technology like youtube was enough for me to not take the rest of your points seriously though I believe she's an icon too. That limitation did NOT keep Thriller, Billie Jean, Beat It, other MJ music video or dances or fashion, or even other dance crazes before that and after it like the Macarena for example from becoming a crazy phenomenon in a pre-youtube world.

What I meant was Beyonce's successes have come with an easier road due to modern technology, not that Single Ladies is more widespread than Rhythm Nation.

aardvark15 said:

Janet will always be the biggest female artists ever. She's known everywhere, she's a sex icon, (a hot one at that) known by her basic first name, Has 10 number ones and 27 top 10 hits, Down to Earth, not a copier, ect. Along with her brother, Madonna, and Prince she defines the Billboards hot 100. And more than Madonna if I say so myself. Also has Rolling Stone had a more recognizable cover since Janet Jackson 1993 "The Joy Of Sex"?

You are not exaggerating?
I would never say that Janet huge globally.
I live in Eastern Europe, my friends live in the Middle East, so I know that if you ask, Who is this Janet Jackson in our area, 80% of people would say that is a sister of Michael Jackson.
Tina Turner, Whitney Houston and Madonna are much better known worldwide than Janet.

Girls have their iconic songs that most people know around the world:
Whitney - I will always love you
Tina - Simply the best
Madonna - Like a virgin.

Janet??
Rhythm Nation?? No, most people in the world (the world - it's not just the U.S.) do not know this song.

I honestly think they are equals....

I agree.

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Madonna is the biggest female star in the world, not Janet. I'm a fan of both though and I care about Janet the person more and prefer her over the two, but Madonna is a pop culture icon, and Janet is more about influence and reaching out. And yeah, I agree even in the Western world, those not familiar with pop music will know exactly who michael jackson is, but know janet as being his sister, for superbowl or not knowing.

It does Janet a total disservice to say that she isn't popular worldwide (sounds silly, I know, but for all she's accomplished, it's true). As for Janet's "globally-known" single, that would have to be "Together Again". That song was massive everywhere. It was a top ten hit globally.

Again, as for her global appeal, she has fanclubs the world over. She's performed for the Queen of England. She's performed to sell-out crowds in Africa, in Europe, in Asia, in Australia. Global stars such as Kylie Minogue, Peter Andre, JLS, and Samantha Mumba have either been compared to her, sampled her music, incorporated elements of her videos into their own, or just stated how much she's inspired them. Are there some people in the world who only know her as MJ's sister? I'm sure there are. But she is not a virtual unknown outside of the USA, as some people seem inclined to believe.

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There are two kind of peaks

Sales: MJ 82-93

Rave Reviews: Beatles 65-69

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SEANMAN said:

It does Janet a total disservice to say that she isn't popular worldwide (sounds silly, I know, but for all she's accomplished, it's true). As for Janet's "globally-known" single, that would have to be "Together Again". That song was massive everywhere. It was a top ten hit globally.

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Janet is/was popular in the world, no one denies that. But Janet just is not a HUGE worldwide star, as she was in the U.S., so call her the biggest female artist - strange..
We have at least 3 female artists more famous in the world and just obviously bigger.

There are two kind of peaks

Sales: MJ 82-93

Rave Reviews: Beatles 65-69

What is the ratio of their peaks have to Janet and Beyonce?

These peaks are huge compared to the peaks, which we discuss here

And you chose correctly years for the rave reviews about the Beatles. The first half of their 10-year-old (only, unfortunately) the existence of the attitude towards them was very, very skeptical.

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musicjunky318 said:

OR

Be specific.

THAT IS THE BEST PICTURE OF JANET I HAVE EVER SEEN! Bey look cute too.

Anyway,

I'd say Janet's peak came with the Control album. She just blew up after that. Cross-over appeal came with that record. BeyBey's peak came with Destiny Child's Survivor album. At that point it became obvious to everyone that Bey didn't need back up chicks holding her from her destiny as a solo artist. I know some might say Bey's debut album was her peak moment but I think she peaked before then. Aside from Diana, I can't think of another female artist who people were more eager to see fly solo.

As for who was a bigger star at their peak, I'd go with Bey. Janet never had beauty product endorsements and film opportunities the way Beyonce has. Not to say that those side deals have anything to do with their respective talents but we are talking "peak" success and much of that has to do with perception and relatability.

^^Janet actually passed up a lot of films that were offered to her, usually because she was always on tour. The Matrix and Xmen just to name two. And she was always a frontrunner to play Dorothy Dandridge, Lena Horne and Eartha Kitt. I think, during her peak, she could've endorsed almost anything she wanted, but just didn't take advantage of it (recording and touring came first). She has endorsed Pepsi and various products overseas, though. Now everybody and their grandma have endorsement deals.

SEANMAN said:

^^Janet actually passed up a lot of films that were offered to her, usually because she was always on tour. The Matrix and Xmen just to name two. And she was always a frontrunner to play Dorothy Dandridge, Lena Horne and Eartha Kitt. I think, during her peak, she could've endorsed almost anything she wanted, but just didn't take advantage of it (recording and touring came first). She has endorsed Pepsi and various products overseas, though. Now everybody and their grandma have endorsement deals.

I love me some Janet but I cannot imagine her in either of those movies. I barely could accept Jada and Nona in the Matrix sequels. Halle was perfect for Xmen tho. Nobody could have been a better Storm save for Angela Basset and I only say that because of her deep voice and mocha complexion.

I think Janet would have been a good Dorothy Dandridge but again...Halle got the part and it was no mistake to cast her in that role as she looks more like Dorothy and is a slightly better actress.

Now I think Janet messed up passing on any kind of US product endorsement due to recording and touring. Look at BeyBey, I bet you she will endorse products up until her delivery date and damn near to the minute the baby pop out.

HotGritz said:

SEANMAN said:

^^Janet actually passed up a lot of films that were offered to her, usually because she was always on tour. The Matrix and Xmen just to name two. And she was always a frontrunner to play Dorothy Dandridge, Lena Horne and Eartha Kitt. I think, during her peak, she could've endorsed almost anything she wanted, but just didn't take advantage of it (recording and touring came first). She has endorsed Pepsi and various products overseas, though. Now everybody and their grandma have endorsement deals.

I love me some Janet but I cannot imagine her in either of those movies. I barely could accept Jada and Nona in the Matrix sequels. Halle was perfect for Xmen tho. Nobody could have been a better Storm save for Angela Basset and I only say that because of her deep voice and mocha complexion.

I think Janet would have been a good Dorothy Dandridge but again...Halle got the part and it was no mistake to cast her in that role as she looks more like Dorothy and is a slightly better actress.

Now I think Janet messed up passing on any kind of US product endorsement due to recording and touring. Look at BeyBey, I bet you she will endorse products up until her delivery date and damn near to the minute the baby pop out.

You've gotta be joking. Berry was God-awful and totally ruined the movies. All three times.

SEANMAN said:

It does Janet a total disservice to say that she isn't popular worldwide (sounds silly, I know, but for all she's accomplished, it's true). As for Janet's "globally-known" single, that would have to be "Together Again". That song was massive everywhere. It was a top ten hit globally.

Again, as for her global appeal, she has fanclubs the world over. She's performed for the Queen of England. She's performed to sell-out crowds in Africa, in Europe, in Asia, in Australia. Global stars such as Kylie Minogue, Peter Andre, JLS, and Samantha Mumba have either been compared to her, sampled her music, incorporated elements of her videos into their own, or just stated how much she's inspired them. Are there some people in the world who only know her as MJ's sister? I'm sure there are. But she is not a virtual unknown outside of the USA, as some people seem inclined to believe.

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I'm not saying she's not popular worldwide. A lot of stars are popular and I don't dispute her doing wonderful in Europe, Asia and Africa. However, VERY FEW attain the popular status of the MJ's, Madonna's and Beatles of the world. Although Janet has broken records and she is one of my favourite artists of all time and such an inspiration to me, she still doesn't get the legendary credit she deserves on an international scale the way we see it with the aforementioned artists.

Janet was smart to not want overexposure and to take breaks, it kept people from getting sick of her too quickly the way it happened with Beyonce. Though Beyonce is talented, she was just not going away and though I like her, I was finding it very hard to enjoy her after some time and kept going enough is enough.

Beyonce may have done more movies, but Janet started out as an actress and as someone else said, Poetic Justice was written with Janet in mind and she was the leading actress of it, while Beyonce's first couple of movies were supporting roles in Carmen and Austin Powers 3. When it comes to acting, they are different, though both are known for music the most.

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musicjunky318 said:

HotGritz said:

I love me some Janet but I cannot imagine her in either of those movies. I barely could accept Jada and Nona in the Matrix sequels. Halle was perfect for Xmen tho. Nobody could have been a better Storm save for Angela Basset and I only say that because of her deep voice and mocha complexion.

I think Janet would have been a good Dorothy Dandridge but again...Halle got the part and it was no mistake to cast her in that role as she looks more like Dorothy and is a slightly better actress.

Now I think Janet messed up passing on any kind of US product endorsement due to recording and touring. Look at BeyBey, I bet you she will endorse products up until her delivery date and damn near to the minute the baby pop out.

You've gotta be joking. Berry was God-awful and totally ruined the movies. All three times.

I think Janet makes a cute Dorothy Dandridge (Janet did some magazine cover in full Dorothy/Carmen make-up) but I don't think Janet could have pulled off acting as Dorothy Dandridge. No, Halle was definitely the better choice. I've never been impressed with Janet as an actress. I've only ever truly liked her when she was 5 or so doing her Mae West impersonation. That said, her being on TV and the movies helped to elevate her star when she finally turned to music. I liked that I wasn't seeing Janet all over the place, so when I did see her cute face gracing a magazine it was all the more sweeter.

I'm not impressed with Beyonce's acting either.

kellistarr120 said:

musicjunky318 said:

You've gotta be joking. Berry was God-awful and totally ruined the movies. All three times.

I think Janet makes a cute Dorothy Dandridge (Janet did some magazine cover in full Dorothy/Carmen make-up) but I don't think Janet could have pulled off acting as Dorothy Dandridge. No, Halle was definitely the better choice. I've never been impressed with Janet as an actress. I've only ever truly liked her when she was 5 or so doing her Mae West impersonation. That said, her being on TV and the movies helped to elevate her star when she finally turned to music. I liked that I wasn't seeing Janet all over the place, so when I did see her cute face gracing a magazine it was all the more sweeter.

I'm not impressed with Beyonce's acting either.