Sooooo, does anyone know of or heard of anymore unreleased songs that might be leaking soon?

seeingvoices12 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

How do you know? Were you there?

NO, TrollyBemine is making things up....Pathetic.

Im a troll to you because im saying things you don't want to hear. I only brought this up when spme fans said Eddie Murphy was gay and in love with MJ. So its ok to say that about Eddie, but you can't take it when it's about MJ. Diss everyone else though huh!

MJ, we are not sure either about his preference, but he made great music. Again seperate the music from the personal life. Im a big Kobe Byant fan, but who knows what really happened in that hotel room in colorado. Because he's a basketball player that makes him special...NOT

I dont worship

Difference is - Eddie was caught picking up a transvestite hooker.

There's never been a shred of evidence to suggest Michael was anything but straight. None.

NaughtyKitty said:

Sooooo, does anyone know of or heard of anymore unreleased songs that might be leaking soon?

Not that I know of but guess what I found today from this site (http://lesliemjhu.blogspo...moved.html):

VintagePopMedia.com Has Been Removed
Howard Mann's company website has been removed recently. Under VintagePopMedia.com an empty page appears for now.

As I have reported about previously, the Michael Jackson Estate claimed in their case that VintagePopMedia.com has an image on it's home page thar infriges MJ's copyrights. Mann in his answere said that the dance move in the logo wasn't invented by MJ.

Even if VintagePopMedia.com will be back online, it say a lot how JacksonSecretVault.com has been changed in the past weeks

BabyBeMine said:

seeingvoices12 said:

NO, TrollyBemine is making things up....Pathetic.

Im a troll to you because im saying things you don't want to hear. I only brought this up when spme fans said Eddie Murphy was gay and in love with MJ. So its ok to say that about Eddie, but you can't take it when it's about MJ. Diss everyone else though huh!

MJ, we are not sure either about his preference, but he made great music. Again seperate the music from the personal life. Im a big Kobe Byant fan, but who knows what really happened in that hotel room in colorado. Because he's a basketball player that makes him special...NOT

I dont worship

Maybe they can do that to eddie, however the same cannot be said about MJ , why , because he is dead , what is the point of discussing the sexuality of a dead man ? People should respect that, It's really pointless , let him rest in peace, discussing and speculating the sexual orientation or preference of any deceased person is not only rude but also pathetic....dead people should be left respected and rest in peace , talk about their goods and remember their good contributions , No point in discussing those shallow things, get over it and log off your king thread.

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Sooooo, does anyone know of or heard of anymore unreleased songs that might be leaking soon?

Not that I know of but guess what I found today from this site (http://lesliemjhu.blogspo...moved.html):

VintagePopMedia.com Has Been Removed
Howard Mann's company website has been removed recently. Under VintagePopMedia.com an empty page appears for now.

As I have reported about previously, the Michael Jackson Estate claimed in their case that VintagePopMedia.com has an image on it's home page thar infriges MJ's copyrights. Mann in his answere said that the dance move in the logo wasn't invented by MJ.

Even if VintagePopMedia.com will be back online, it say a lot how JacksonSecretVault.com has been changed in the past weeks

Thanks Timmy! Very interesting I checked to see if the Jackson Secret Vault site is still up, which it is. But now they're featuring a special: Katherine's book, a DVD and calendar all for the price of $39.99. Or you can buy 2 books/DVD/Calendar sets and get one free. Looks like they're getting desperate

[Edited 3/6/11 14:22pm]

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

Thanks Timmy! Very interesting I checked to see if the Jackson Secret Vault site is still up, which it is. But now they're featuring a special: Katherine's book, a DVD and calendar all for the price of $39.99. Or you can buy 2 books/DVD/Calendar sets and get one free. Looks like they're getting desperate

[Edited 3/6/11 14:22pm]

Oh yes... they're real desperate.

SherryJackson said:

Oy, dag...remember those *cough* code words I posted a while back? My friend told me she got them from a forum called Lipstick Alley...apparently a very healthy MJ fan community resides there and they talk about everything MJ all the time. I however, can't really vouch for authenticity. Some of what they post on there sounds like it's coming out of their ass.

I remember that post you made awhile back I've been to Lipstick Alley a few times and you do have to take some of the claims they make with a grain of salt...

seeingvoices12 said:

BabyBeMine said:

Im a troll to you because im saying things you don't want to hear. I only brought this up when spme fans said Eddie Murphy was gay and in love with MJ. So its ok to say that about Eddie, but you can't take it when it's about MJ. Diss everyone else though huh!

MJ, we are not sure either about his preference, but he made great music. Again seperate the music from the personal life. Im a big Kobe Byant fan, but who knows what really happened in that hotel room in colorado. Because he's a basketball player that makes him special...NOT

I dont worship

Maybe they can do that to eddie, however the same cannot be said about MJ , why , because he is dead , what is the point of discussing the sexuality of a dead man ? People should respect that, It's really pointless , let him rest in peace, discussing and speculating the sexual orientation or preference of any deceased person is not only rude but also pathetic....dead people should be left respected and rest in peace , talk about their goods and remember their good contributions , No point in discussing those shallow things, get over it and log off your king thread.

No you can not do that to others, and not accept your idol to get the same. Dead or alive.

Especially when you start saying Eddie is in love with MJ, while MJ is masculine. Taking it a little to far there. Im over it, no big deal to me. I don't worship celebrities

MJ was a great artist, great music, great dancer. Defending his pesonal life to the point of ANGER...That's a little unhealthy and obsessive.

Umm if there is evidence of you being a pedophile the conversation is never over. This is not a debate about MJ and grown man. It's MJ and a 13 year old. Again, never said guilty, but you can't expect the subject to disappear because he is dead.

Pedophiles who are truly GUILTY...Should be fed to crocodiles...REAL TALK..That would be my execution. The sickest of all crimes and worse than murder. But im not saying MJ was guilty. Just some suspicious activity

There's nothing "suspicious" about any of MJ's behavior, actually. Warped western society might see things that way, but when you are worldly, with knowledge and experience of many different cultures, you realize there was never anything weird or suspicious.

It's a damn shame when people don't understand that someone can have a real, genuine affection for children and wish to spend time with them without it being sexual. WHAT is so hard to understand about that?

Militant said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

I decided to pop on "Moonwalker" today and I got to thinking...Does anyone know what show(s) those were during the "Man in the Mirror" performance? I know those shows had to be professionally recorded! I'd kill to have them in that DVD quality! And the quality of the clips from Victory tour are just...orgasmic!

I don't know which specific shows they were from but I think that most, if not all the shows were professionally filmed. I'm not 100% on that though so maybe bboy can offer more insight.

From what was said on MJJC, the shots with Michael in the blue shirt are from Wembley, the audience shots are from Gothenburg, Liverpool, London, and other areas

the black shirt is from the New York show in March '88 or Kansas City in February

All the shows were filmed and recorded, but there are also a couple that were recorded on 35mm film which is the Man In The Mirror sequence looked so clear and vivid on Blu Ray along with the original theatrical version of Thriller

the 35mm transfer that was used in Moonwalker

[img:$uid]http://i54.tinypic.com/5oe6mc.jpg[/img:$uid]

the beta transfer that is used on Thriller 25, Vision, and Number Ones

[img:$uid]http://i55.tinypic.com/ff4thy.jpg[/img:$uid]

some of Michael's videos were originally filmed on 35mm camera also (Thriller, Beat It, Bad, Smooth Criminal...etc) which is why the quality of certain videos on Vision is baffling. They could've done a better job on the set

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

Thanks Timmy! Very interesting I checked to see if the Jackson Secret Vault site is still up, which it is. But now they're featuring a special: Katherine's book, a DVD and calendar all for the price of $39.99. Or you can buy 2 books/DVD/Calendar sets and get one free. Looks like they're getting desperate

[Edited 3/6/11 14:22pm]

Have you read The Estate's reinforced lawsuit against Johnson?
It has many details there and, basically, has the history of Johnson and Mann's partnership with the Jacksons. Some details are shocking. After all, it was Joe and Katherine who went after the two and who planned every single scheme.

Now, answer me: are Joe and Katherine good people who do not deserve criticism? My answer shall be obvious; those two are the devil.

MOL said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Thanks Timmy! Very interesting I checked to see if the Jackson Secret Vault site is still up, which it is. But now they're featuring a special: Katherine's book, a DVD and calendar all for the price of $39.99. Or you can buy 2 books/DVD/Calendar sets and get one free. Looks like they're getting desperate

[Edited 3/6/11 14:22pm]

Have you read The Estate's reinforced lawsuit against Johnson?
It has many details there and, basically, has the history of Johnson and Mann's partnership with the Jacksons. Some details are shocking. After all, it was Joe and Katherine who went after the two and who planned every single scheme.

Now, answer me: are Joe and Katherine good people who do not deserve criticism? My answer shall be obvious; those two are the devil.

Hey MOL no I havent read it, do you have a link to a copy of the lawsuit? I'm interested in reading it. Joe and Katherine are certainly not above criticism and their actions since Michael passed have been not only highly questionable, but worthy of criticism, outrage and disgust.

NaughtyKitty said:

MOL said:

Have you read The Estate's reinforced lawsuit against Johnson?
It has many details there and, basically, has the history of Johnson and Mann's partnership with the Jacksons. Some details are shocking. After all, it was Joe and Katherine who went after the two and who planned every single scheme.

Now, answer me: are Joe and Katherine good people who do not deserve criticism? My answer shall be obvious; those two are the devil.

Hey MOL no I havent read it, do you have a link to a copy of the lawsuit? I'm interested in reading it. Joe and Katherine are certainly not above criticism and their actions since Michael passed have been not only highly questionable, but worthy of criticism, outrage and disgust.

Go to mjj community. It's the hot topic there.

Their actions SINCE Michael passed? Naughty: you'd be really naive if you thought their outrageous behavior started only when he passed. Got news: it started the moment Michael was born and aggravated itself the moment the two realized he had talent. That's when the blantant exploitation, maltreatement, abuse in every sense, dehumanism, slavery, negligence and legendary greediness started. But I'm the meanie one, here. After all, Joe and Katherine are just loving parents who lost a child and who did not do anything to warrant this type of criticism.

Another question: did you read what those two did to Rebbie?

MOL said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Hey MOL no I havent read it, do you have a link to a copy of the lawsuit? I'm interested in reading it. Joe and Katherine are certainly not above criticism and their actions since Michael passed have been not only highly questionable, but worthy of criticism, outrage and disgust.

Go to mjj community. It's the hot topic there.

Their actions SINCE Michael passed? Naughty: you'd be really naive if you thought their outrageous behavior started only when he passed. Got news: it started the moment Michael was born and aggravated itself the moment the two realized he had talent. That's when the blantant exploitation, maltreatement, abuse in every sense, dehumanism, slavery, negligence and legendary greediness started. But I'm the meanie one, here. After all, Joe and Katherine are just loving parents who lost a child and who did not do anything to warrant this type of criticism.

Another question: did you read what those two did to Rebbie?

Yes their actions have always been...not good lol but theyve gotten worse since he left. At least it seems that way. What did they do to Rebbie?

NaughtyKitty said:

MOL said:

Go to mjj community. It's the hot topic there.

Their actions SINCE Michael passed? Naughty: you'd be really naive if you thought their outrageous behavior started only when he passed. Got news: it started the moment Michael was born and aggravated itself the moment the two realized he had talent. That's when the blantant exploitation, maltreatement, abuse in every sense, dehumanism, slavery, negligence and legendary greediness started. But I'm the meanie one, here. After all, Joe and Katherine are just loving parents who lost a child and who did not do anything to warrant this type of criticism.

Another question: did you read what those two did to Rebbie?

Yes their actions have always been...not good lol but theyve gotten worse since he left. At least it seems that way. What did they do to Rebbie?

You don’t hear too much about Michael Jackson‘s eldest sibling, Rebbie (Maureen) Jackson. She was smart: she got married young and got away from the Jackson family as soon as possible. Apparently, they’ve held it against her all these years.

I am told by sources that Rebbie, now 60, is constantly dissed and used by her family, from the early days right up to this week. In fact, she traveled this week from Las Vegas, where she lives with her husband, to the Los Angeles area to an interview with the UK newspaper, The Sun.

The paper offered her $75,000, and Rebbie, who has done little to cash in on her family’s fame, accepted. She did the interview, and then waited, a friend says, for the paper to call to get her bank information. The call never came. Instead, today The Sun is featuring LaToya Jackson on its website and in the paper. Says a source: “Joe Jackson heard about Rebbie’s interview. He got La Toya to do it, and replaced Rebbie.” The older sister is said to be very upset and rightly so.

According to those who know her, the mild mannered, loyal Rebbie is one of the few Jacksons to turn down offers since Michael died a year ago today. She declined $650,000 from News of the World just five days after Michael’s death. As a performer herself, she’s managed to make a career for herself in Las Vegas. But I am told that both her parents went to a Las Vegas hotel owner and scotched a deal for Rebbie to have her own showcase. Joe and Katherine wanted the money for themselves and, so, the two got Rebbie out of the way. “The parents told the hotel owner why did he want just Rebbie when they could offer him a better deal?” In the end, no one got the work.

Last year, after Michael died, my source insists that the Jacksons asked Rebbie to come take care of Michael’s kids. “She stayed for three months until she realized they, namely Joe, just did it to keep her from working in Vegas so the money would go to them instead. They never intended for her to actually be involved.” Since then, little has been heard from Rebbie in regard to Michael’s kids or the family.

NaughtyKitty said:

MOL said:

Go to mjj community. It's the hot topic there.

Their actions SINCE Michael passed? Naughty: you'd be really naive if you thought their outrageous behavior started only when he passed. Got news: it started the moment Michael was born and aggravated itself the moment the two realized he had talent. That's when the blantant exploitation, maltreatement, abuse in every sense, dehumanism, slavery, negligence and legendary greediness started. But I'm the meanie one, here. After all, Joe and Katherine are just loving parents who lost a child and who did not do anything to warrant this type of criticism.

Another question: did you read what those two did to Rebbie?

Yes their actions have always been...not good lol but theyve gotten worse since he left. At least it seems that way. What did they do to Rebbie?

I respectfully DISagree with you. I think what those two did while Michael was alive was MUCH worse than what they did after he passed.

MOL said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Hey MOL no I havent read it, do you have a link to a copy of the lawsuit? I'm interested in reading it. Joe and Katherine are certainly not above criticism and their actions since Michael passed have been not only highly questionable, but worthy of criticism, outrage and disgust.

Go to mjj community. It's the hot topic there.

Their actions SINCE Michael passed? Naughty: you'd be really naive if you thought their outrageous behavior started only when he passed. Got news: it started the moment Michael was born and aggravated itself the moment the two realized he had talent. That's when the blantant exploitation, maltreatement, abuse in every sense, dehumanism, slavery, negligence and legendary greediness started. But I'm the meanie one, here. After all, Joe and Katherine are just loving parents who lost a child and who did not do anything to warrant this type of criticism.

Another question: did you read what those two did to Rebbie?

Can you take your angry twisted self somewhere else. I have never seen you post something good about michael or something positive concerning him. You always pop up when it's convienent to convince people that Michael was born to devils and that no one ever cared for him and that you have the inside scoop even though you are just a fan who has never met michael personally. Heaven forbid you have any children because this state of mind is not healthy.

[Edited 3/6/11 17:31pm]

MOL said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Yes their actions have always been...not good lol but theyve gotten worse since he left. At least it seems that way. What did they do to Rebbie?

I respectfully DISagree with you. I think what those two did while Michael was alive was MUCH worse than what they did after he passed.

Maybe so, and then again maybe not. I dont disagree that they're dysfunctional, but were they really as bad as you say? Michael could've distanced himself from his parents as soon as he was of age but he didnt move outta Havenhurst until he was 30!

I remember reading that article about Rebbie in Roger's column. If that story is accurate, then that's terrible. You may think I am naive to the evil ways of the Jacksons, but I am not, I am aware of their obvious problems. Are they severely dysfunctional? Have mental or personality disorders? Self-destructive, selfish and driven by greed? Yeah I'd say so. But are they deliberately evil? Spawns of the devil himself? Errrmmmm.....

mj reference on family guy!

BabyBeMine said:

It's not just naomi campbell, or Tatiana. Brook Shields..Look at how giggly she was at the 1984 Grammy Awards. Check out how she is holding his hand tight, and when they are in the limo. She is gorgous, not a groupie and wants to be his women.

But he didn't want her. Weird....She said they were just friends in the end, because i think she got frustrated that he didn't want her like that. She gave up, and was like aiight this is my buddy ole PAL

Brooke wanted Mike in the early 80s.....He just didn't want her or Tatiana. Kinda strange

I believe the only one that could say who he did or who he did'nt want,would be Michael. Michael was a private person,so even if he was interested,he would have been discreit about it,not shouting it from the roof tops. Brooke Shields might not have been his type,just because she was beautiful,does not mean that Michael would have automatically wanted to be with her.

bboy87 said:

Militant said:

I don't know which specific shows they were from but I think that most, if not all the shows were professionally filmed. I'm not 100% on that though so maybe bboy can offer more insight.

From what was said on MJJC, the shots with Michael in the blue shirt are from Wembley, the audience shots are from Gothenburg, Liverpool, London, and other areas

the black shirt is from the New York show in March '88 or Kansas City in February

All the shows were filmed and recorded, but there are also a couple that were recorded on 35mm film which is the Man In The Mirror sequence looked so clear and vivid on Blu Ray along with the original theatrical version of Thriller

the 35mm transfer that was used in Moonwalker

[img:$uid]http://i54.tinypic.com/5oe6mc.jpg[/img:$uid]

the beta transfer that is used on Thriller 25, Vision, and Number Ones

[img:$uid]http://i55.tinypic.com/ff4thy.jpg[/img:$uid]

some of Michael's videos were originally filmed on 35mm camera also (Thriller, Beat It, Bad, Smooth Criminal...etc) which is why the quality of certain videos on Vision is baffling. They could've done a better job on the set

Yeah because that 35mm clip of Thriller on MW was orgasmic! The quality was just beautiful. One of those shows (or even both) needs to be released because that was such a tease.

Still no official word on if we're getting a Victory or Bad DVD?

EmeraldSkies said:

BabyBeMine said:

It's not just naomi campbell, or Tatiana. Brook Shields..Look at how giggly she was at the 1984 Grammy Awards. Check out how she is holding his hand tight, and when they are in the limo. She is gorgous, not a groupie and wants to be his women.

But he didn't want her. Weird....She said they were just friends in the end, because i think she got frustrated that he didn't want her like that. She gave up, and was like aiight this is my buddy ole PAL

Brooke wanted Mike in the early 80s.....He just didn't want her or Tatiana. Kinda strange

I believe the only one that could say who he did or who he did'nt want,would be Michael. Michael was a private person,so even if he was interested,he would have been discreit about it,not shouting it from the roof tops. Brooke Shields might not have been his type,just because she was beautiful,does not mean that Michael would have automatically wanted to be with her.

According to that book by that Schmuck rabbi dude, he expressed regret for not pursuing Brooke Shields if I'm not mistaken. I don't know what he was thinking at the time, but I wasn't inside of his head. He had his entire crop of issues and problems. Wasn't it in Walter Yetnikoff's book where he expressed a desire not to upset his mother and this was during the Thriller era if I'm not mistaken? How old was he by then? Yeah... He had issues, but I always thought that he was quite open with them...a little too open at times..., but yet still kind of mysterious...if that makes any sense.

SherryJackson said:

MJJstudent said:

a first-person view of the O2 announcement, 2 years ago:

around the 9 minute mark is really sad. even this person could tell something was wrong with him.

[Edited 3/6/11 2:33am]

God I can't believe it was two years ago...

I remember I rushed home from Calculus class just to catch the announcement online...

I better shut up about that before I start crying and ruin everybody's good time.

heh heh... i actually stayed up to watch it... i wasn't home, and when i was on the way home, that's when he spoke. HA!

mimi07 said:

i would have loved for him to do something intimate like this but when he became the king of pop everything had to be larger than life glitz and glamour

[Edited 3/6/11 11:22am]

the mexican performance is actually one of my top J5 shows... and noticably of course, jermaine was not there. around this time you began to see what michael brought to the table as an adult, vocally and otherwise.

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

From what was said on MJJC, the shots with Michael in the blue shirt are from Wembley, the audience shots are from Gothenburg, Liverpool, London, and other areas

the black shirt is from the New York show in March '88 or Kansas City in February

All the shows were filmed and recorded, but there are also a couple that were recorded on 35mm film which is the Man In The Mirror sequence looked so clear and vivid on Blu Ray along with the original theatrical version of Thriller

the 35mm transfer that was used in Moonwalker

[img][/img]

the beta transfer that is used on Thriller 25, Vision, and Number Ones

[img][/img]

some of Michael's videos were originally filmed on 35mm camera also (Thriller, Beat It, Bad, Smooth Criminal...etc) which is why the quality of certain videos on Vision is baffling. They could've done a better job on the set

Yeah because that 35mm clip of Thriller on MW was orgasmic! The quality was just beautiful. One of those shows (or even both) needs to be released because that was such a tease.

Still no official word on if we're getting a Victory or Bad DVD?

It's been said that a Bad Tour DVD is coming in the next year (most likely Wembley) and someone on MJJC and KOP who mixed the first couple of shows at Wembley said he's in talks with the estate

Another fan emailed the MJOnlineTeam about Vision and they responded that they know of the issues that fans have with the set and they hope it can focused on soon. Just do a "2.0" edition of it

Michael Jackson's Vision 2.0

Disc I

Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

Rock With You

She's Out Of My Life

Original Top Of The Pops broadcast introduction for Billie Jean

Billie Jean

Original BET broadcast introduction for Beat It

Beat It

Original MTV or Showtime premiere introduction for Thriller

Thriller

Original MTV or CBS premiere introduction for Bad

Bad

The Way You Make Me Feel

Man In The Mirror

Original MTV This Week In Rock premiere for Dirty Diana

Dirty Diana

Another Part Of Me

Speed Demon

Smooth Criminal

Original MTV Michael Jackson Weekend premiere for Leave Me Alone

Leave Me Alone

Come Together

Liberian Girl

Disc II

Original MTV premiere introduction

Black Or White

Original BET premiere introduction

Remember The Time

In The Closet

Original BBC Def II premiere introduction

Who Is It

Jam

Heal The World

Will You Be There

Give in To Me

Gone Too Soon

Original Premiere introduction

Scream

Childhood

Original "Michael Jackson Changes HIStory" introduction

You Are Not Alone

Earth Song

They Don't Care About Us

Stranger In Moscow

HIStory

Blood On The Dancefloor

Ghosts

You Rock My World

Cry

This Is It

Hold My Hand

Disc III

Enjoy Yourself

Blues Away (from The Jacksons variety show)

Dreamer

Goin' Places

Even Though You're Gone

Blame It On The Boogie

Shake Your Body Down To The Ground

Off The Wall (Live)

The Triumph: Can You Feel It

Say Say Say

Billie Jean '84

Another Part Of Me (Alternate Version)

Smooth Criminal (Alternate Version)

Gone Too Soon

Whatzupwitu

They Don't Care About Us (Prison Version)

What More Can I Give

One More Chance

yeah...wishful thinking

bboy87 said:

Militant said:

I don't know which specific shows they were from but I think that most, if not all the shows were professionally filmed. I'm not 100% on that though so maybe bboy can offer more insight.

From what was said on MJJC, the shots with Michael in the blue shirt are from Wembley, the audience shots are from Gothenburg, Liverpool, London, and other areas

the black shirt is from the New York show in March '88 or Kansas City in February

All the shows were filmed and recorded, but there are also a couple that were recorded on 35mm film which is the Man In The Mirror sequence looked so clear and vivid on Blu Ray along with the original theatrical version of Thriller

the 35mm transfer that was used in Moonwalker

[img:$uid]http://i54.tinypic.com/5oe6mc.jpg[/img:$uid]

the beta transfer that is used on Thriller 25, Vision, and Number Ones

[img:$uid]http://i55.tinypic.com/ff4thy.jpg[/img:$uid]

some of Michael's videos were originally filmed on 35mm camera also (Thriller, Beat It, Bad, Smooth Criminal...etc) which is why the quality of certain videos on Vision is baffling. They could've done a better job on the set

thank you for that information... i remember reading a review of 'vision', and this was a huge factor in the review, that the visuals are off, due to the transfer. i personally do not have the 'vision' set, but from the photos you posted i canm see what the reviewer is talking about.

one thing i would really LOVE to see is a 35 print of that 'man in the mirror' segment of moonwalker... i have the film on both VHS and DVD, and both actually look beautiful. but i think if i saw a film print i would drool of happiness. the title card deserves to be seen on the big screen. to watch 'moonwalker' on a small screen is, in many ways, an injustice to the film.

i appreciate that michael was such a fan of cinema, that he recognized technique. he even recognized something in geraldi, who was a commercial director, was he not? he appreciated the pacing of geraldi's work. and i do like what scorsese did with 'bad' (both parts). and cinematically, 'thriller' was one of landis' best pieces. the way the camera pans during the dance sequence is marvelous.

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Yeah because that 35mm clip of Thriller on MW was orgasmic! The quality was just beautiful. One of those shows (or even both) needs to be released because that was such a tease.

Still no official word on if we're getting a Victory or Bad DVD?

It's been said that a Bad Tour DVD is coming in the next year (most likely Wembley) and someone on MJJC and KOP who mixed the first couple of shows at Wembley said he's in talks with the estate

Another fan emailed the MJOnlineTeam about Vision and they responded that they know of the issues that fans have with the set and they hope it can focused on soon. Just do a "2.0" edition of it

Michael Jackson's Vision 2.0

Disc I

Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

Rock With You

She's Out Of My Life

Original Top Of The Pops broadcast introduction for Billie Jean

Billie Jean

Original BET broadcast introduction for Beat It

Beat It

Original MTV or Showtime premiere introduction for Thriller

Thriller

Original MTV or CBS premiere introduction for Bad

Bad

The Way You Make Me Feel

Man In The Mirror

Original MTV This Week In Rock premiere for Dirty Diana

Dirty Diana

Another Part Of Me

Speed Demon

Smooth Criminal

Original MTV Michael Jackson Weekend premiere for Leave Me Alone

Leave Me Alone

Come Together

Liberian Girl

Disc II

Original MTV premiere introduction

Black Or White

Original BET premiere introduction

Remember The Time

In The Closet

Original BBC Def II premiere introduction

Who Is It

Jam

Heal The World

Will You Be There

Give in To Me

Gone Too Soon

Original Premiere introduction

Scream

Childhood

Original "Michael Jackson Changes HIStory" introduction

You Are Not Alone

Earth Song

They Don't Care About Us

Stranger In Moscow

HIStory

Blood On The Dancefloor

Ghosts

You Rock My World

Cry

This Is It

Hold My Hand

Disc III

Enjoy Yourself

Blues Away (from The Jacksons variety show)

Dreamer

Goin' Places

Even Though You're Gone

Blame It On The Boogie

Shake Your Body Down To The Ground

Off The Wall (Live)

The Triumph: Can You Feel It

Say Say Say

Billie Jean '84

Another Part Of Me (Alternate Version)

Smooth Criminal (Alternate Version)

Gone Too Soon

Whatzupwitu

They Don't Care About Us (Prison Version)

What More Can I Give

One More Chance

yeah...wishful thinking

im not paying money again for a 2.0 set...lol

BabyBeMine said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Maybe they can do that to eddie, however the same cannot be said about MJ , why , because he is dead , what is the point of discussing the sexuality of a dead man ? People should respect that, It's really pointless , let him rest in peace, discussing and speculating the sexual orientation or preference of any deceased person is not only rude but also pathetic....dead people should be left respected and rest in peace , talk about their goods and remember their good contributions , No point in discussing those shallow things, get over it and log off your king thread.

No you can not do that to others, and not accept your idol to get the same. Dead or alive.

Especially when you start saying Eddie is in love with MJ, while MJ is masculine. Taking it a little to far there. Im over it, no big deal to me. I don't worship celebrities

MJ was a great artist, great music, great dancer. Defending his pesonal life to the point of ANGER...That's a little unhealthy and obsessive.

Umm if there is evidence of you being a pedophile the conversation is never over. This is not a debate about MJ and grown man. It's MJ and a 13 year old. Again, never said guilty, but you can't expect the subject to disappear because he is dead.

Pedophiles who are truly GUILTY...Should be fed to crocodiles...REAL TALK..That would be my execution. The sickest of all crimes and worse than murder. But im not saying MJ was guilty. Just some suspicious activity

you keep talking nonsense with each post....

who said that I worship celebrities , or worship MJ , I don't worship anyone...child

when I love someone's music , I always tend to separate the artist from the art, and No one is perfect , MJ faced trial, fought for two years and the outcome was NOT Guilty, and if you really followed the case , you wouldn't say that....

suspicious activity? GOD

READ THE COURT TRANSCRIPTS, COURT TRANSCRIPTS DON'T LIE .....he was innocent.

and since he was inncoent and did nothing but contributed a great input to the music industry and humanity , thats how he should be remembered ......dead people should be respected epecially the good ones....... why is that so hard to understand ?

MJJstudent said:

mimi07 said:

i would have loved for him to do something intimate like this but when he became the king of pop everything had to be larger than life glitz and glamour

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the mexican performance is actually one of my top J5 shows... and noticably of course, jermaine was not there. around this time you began to see what michael brought to the table as an adult, vocally and otherwise.

Mexico City is my ish. I have it on bootleg dvd, on the macbook and for the iPod. I love the brotherlyness off it if that makes sense. There's no Jermaine, but they are soooo beautiful together on stage. You Were Made Especially For Me is the BIZZZZ!!!! They are killing it with the aerobic dance moves! OMG I can't say enough wonderful things about this gem.