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Reply #630 posted 03/02/11 4:00pm

Timmy84

Swa said:

What a lunatic - seems now anyone can make a claim and if it can't be proven otherwise it remains allowable.

Read on, laugh on.

Michael Jackson 'chemically castrated' as child: doctor

MARSEILLE — Michael Jackson may have been more prince than king of pop, a French doctor says in a new book alleging his wide-ranging voice resulted from a childhood chemical castration to fight acne.

"When he died, I realised that he was an unusual phenomenon," Alain Branchereau, an opera buff and professor of vascular surgery at Timone University Hospital in France's Mediterranean port of Marseille, told AFP.

"I said, 'That's the voice of a castrato!'."

After discussing the voice with his colleagues, including endocrinologists, Branchereau ended up with the theory of chemical castration through the synthetic anti-male hormone drug Cyproterone.

"When he was 12, Michael Jackson had acne. We know this, he spoke about it himself as a tragedy. What I think could have happened is that his people suggested this miracle treatment," the doctor said.

Cyproterone "blocks puberty, the voice can't mature," he said, adding that he had read around 20 books on the subject, studied photographs and spoken to specialists in dermatology, voice physiology, plastic surgery, urology as well as to a former singer with the Petits Chanteurs de Sainte-Croix boys choir.

The drug stops bodily hair and the larynx from growing and affects the bones, leaving the body with a slight frame but a large chest.

Once the treatment is finished, the patient "keeps a child's larynx all his life in a man's body," said Branchereau.

The doctor also noted that a male voice breaks during adolescence, becoming difficult to control. "But Michael Jackson never stopped singing," he said.

"An important part of my theory is this voice's exceptional character, which covers three octaves. But I haven't found any grown men's voices that cover three octaves."

Branchereau admitted that he had not contacted Jackson's family or friends for his book, "Michael Jackson, the secret of a voice," due out on March 9.

"We will never have proof," the doctor said. "Unless his entourage says something."

Copyright © 2011 AFP. All rights reserved.

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Reply #631 posted 03/02/11 4:05pm

SherryJackson

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

From "Katherine Jackson & Howard Mann: The Whole Story, Part 1

http://muzikfactorytwo.bl...whole.html

^Gives a detailed accounting on how the Jackson family memorabilia ended up in Mann's hands.

Wow.

This broke my heart right here...you know those ass holes be bulls**ttin' when

"There are a couple of paintings Jackson made of naked boys. And there are some of his whitening creams, some sex aids...some of the old records in his sealed court case."

Really now? nutso

The only part of that I can believe is the third part but the rest...bitch, please...rolleyes

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Reply #632 posted 03/02/11 4:07pm

Timmy84

SherryJackson said:

Timmy84 said:

Wow.

This broke my heart right here...you know those ass holes be bulls**ttin' when

"There are a couple of paintings Jackson made of naked boys. And there are some of his whitening creams, some sex aids...some of the old records in his sealed court case."

Really now? nutso

The only part of that I can believe is the third part but the rest...bitch, please...rolleyes

I mean seriously they think they can actually blind folks?

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Reply #633 posted 03/02/11 4:16pm

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It is so sad to see how selfish and disgusting his family is regarding his legacy.

It tears my heart apart because he is gone, to think that this is the very thing he went through in life, no wonder he took drugs.. This is way to much for one human being to handle.

Truly, he was just a money machine for the Jackson's minus Janet... cry

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Reply #634 posted 03/02/11 4:33pm

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armpit said:

MOL said:

MJ put Kat on a pedestal because he wanted to feel loved, feel human, feel he could trust someone. So he exxagerated every little act in his human need to feel loved by a parent. Mainly, he was in denial: he didn't want to think his own mother regarded him as few more than a money making machine. He knew, deep inside (even though he refused to acknowledge it) that his father saw him as a slave, a money making machine and the thought of the other parent feeling only a little better than that was too repulsive. Imagine your parents not giving a ish about you, just what you could give them. Imagine having parents who don't care if you die or not, just care about the material benefits you give them. Those thoughts are too much for any human being to handle, hence why MJ felt the need to put his mother on a pedestal.

So, what do I think? I think Kat is as mentally disturbed and freakish as her psycopathic, EVIL husband. The difference is that she has the capacity to love, a faculty Joe doesn't have.

[Edited 2/28/11 9:54am]

To be fair - none of you knew MJ or his mom or knew anything about their relationship in order to say something as fucked up as she never loved her son.

To even go there is just in incredibly poor taste.

Why can't you people just be quiet and stick to the shit you DO actually know something about, which is the music.

Exactly, fans like that are nuts. They may have all Michael's cd's, knoow all his lyrics, memorized his dance steps, floowed him through the years in the media and they think they know they knew the many personally. Calling michael's family especially his mother the exact same names the tabloids called him, shame.

[Edited 3/2/11 19:10pm]

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Reply #635 posted 03/02/11 4:39pm

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MyNameIsPiper said:

My mom hates it when I call her "mother." Says it's too close to "motherfucker." So I say it whenever I'm a little miffed at her.

Back to Michael. lol

lol i used to say mommy until i was like 13 and then some michaelisms rubbed off onto me and i started calling her mother, she hates it's so since then i don't call her anything, it's kind of akward lol i still refer to her as my mother when spekaing about her tho

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Reply #636 posted 03/02/11 4:47pm

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #637 posted 03/02/11 5:17pm

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mookie said:

On Decemeber 2nd 2010, at 11.30 am at Encino , Joe Jackson and Frank Julian Rouas owner and founder of Julian Rouas Paris Inc , signed the contract for seven years to release the very first perfume that the Jackson Family have ever come out with.

The Fragrance will be in the stores in a few months since right now the new scent of neverland , as its called it being done in Paris , this is the Man perfume. Also there is Female fragrance call "The Jackson Legend" which is also being manufactered in France.

Again , this will be a Smash Hit , as the bottle will have printed Michael Jackson features and will be the first ever in the Jackson familys life . Julian Rouas mentioned his excitement on this thrilling proyect , - I am extremelly happy and I will put the best of me to create an unbelievable scent that everybody will fall in love with.

http://julianrouasparis.com/jacksonparfumworld/

ya'll can talk shit, but I wanna know how it smells LOL

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #638 posted 03/02/11 5:22pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

mookie said:

On Decemeber 2nd 2010, at 11.30 am at Encino , Joe Jackson and Frank Julian Rouas owner and founder of Julian Rouas Paris Inc , signed the contract for seven years to release the very first perfume that the Jackson Family have ever come out with.

The Fragrance will be in the stores in a few months since right now the new scent of neverland , as its called it being done in Paris , this is the Man perfume. Also there is Female fragrance call "The Jackson Legend" which is also being manufactered in France.

Again , this will be a Smash Hit , as the bottle will have printed Michael Jackson features and will be the first ever in the Jackson familys life . Julian Rouas mentioned his excitement on this thrilling proyect , - I am extremelly happy and I will put the best of me to create an unbelievable scent that everybody will fall in love with.

http://julianrouasparis.com/jacksonparfumworld/

ya'll can talk shit, but I wanna know how it smells LOL

Probably cow manure.

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Reply #639 posted 03/02/11 5:46pm

SherryJackson

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

ya'll can talk shit, but I wanna know how it smells LOL

Probably cow manure.

I hope not. Maybe it smells similar to what Michael wore (i.e Bal A Versailles)...

Ah, wishful thinking

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Reply #640 posted 03/02/11 5:54pm

mimi07

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[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Marlon-Brando-and-Michael-Jackson1.jpg[/img:$uid]
Marlon Brando

[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Michael-Jackson-and-Mr-T.jpg[/img:$uid]
Mr. T

[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Michael-Jackson-and-Oscar-the-Grouch.jpg[/img:$uid]
The Grouch

[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Michael-Jackson-and-Freddie-Mercury.jpg[/img:$uid]
Freddie Mercury

[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Paul-McCartney-and-Michael-Jackson-3.jpg[/img:$uid]
Paul McCartney

[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Michael-Jackson-and-Steven-Tyler.png[/img:$uid]
Steven Tyler

[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Andy-Warhol-and-Michael-Jackson.jpg[/img:$uid]
Andy Warhol

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Reply #641 posted 03/02/11 6:31pm

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Panini are delaying the release of their MJ cards.

"The release of our Michael Jackson trading cards has been postponed until June 2011. Are orders have been cancelled and we be resolicited at the appropriate time."

"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #642 posted 03/02/11 6:37pm

luv4ever

mimi07 said:

armpit said:

To be fair - none of you knew MJ or his mom or knew anything about their relationship in order to say something as fucked up as she never loved her son.

To even go there is just in incredibly poor taste.

Why can't you people just be quiet and stick to the shit you DO actually know something about, which is the music.

Exactly, fans like that are nuts. They may have all Michael's cd's, knoow all his lyrics, memorized his dance steps, floowed him through the years in the media and they think they know they knew the many personally. Calling michael's family especially his mother the exact same names the tabloids called, him shame.

Thank you for this comment. It makes my skin crawl when some of the "fans" attack 80 year old Katherine Jackson. It seem that some people should anaylze their own relationship with their parents and leave Mrs. Jackson alone!

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Reply #643 posted 03/02/11 6:49pm

MJJstudent

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Swa said:

What a lunatic - seems now anyone can make a claim and if it can't be proven otherwise it remains allowable.

Read on, laugh on.

Michael Jackson 'chemically castrated' as child: doctor

MARSEILLE — Michael Jackson may have been more prince than king of pop, a French doctor says in a new book alleging his wide-ranging voice resulted from a childhood chemical castration to fight acne.

"When he died, I realised that he was an unusual phenomenon," Alain Branchereau, an opera buff and professor of vascular surgery at Timone University Hospital in France's Mediterranean port of Marseille, told AFP.

"I said, 'That's the voice of a castrato!'."

After discussing the voice with his colleagues, including endocrinologists, Branchereau ended up with the theory of chemical castration through the synthetic anti-male hormone drug Cyproterone.

"When he was 12, Michael Jackson had acne. We know this, he spoke about it himself as a tragedy. What I think could have happened is that his people suggested this miracle treatment," the doctor said.

Cyproterone "blocks puberty, the voice can't mature," he said, adding that he had read around 20 books on the subject, studied photographs and spoken to specialists in dermatology, voice physiology, plastic surgery, urology as well as to a former singer with the Petits Chanteurs de Sainte-Croix boys choir.

The drug stops bodily hair and the larynx from growing and affects the bones, leaving the body with a slight frame but a large chest.

Once the treatment is finished, the patient "keeps a child's larynx all his life in a man's body," said Branchereau.

The doctor also noted that a male voice breaks during adolescence, becoming difficult to control. "But Michael Jackson never stopped singing," he said.

"An important part of my theory is this voice's exceptional character, which covers three octaves. But I haven't found any grown men's voices that cover three octaves."

Branchereau admitted that he had not contacted Jackson's family or friends for his book, "Michael Jackson, the secret of a voice," due out on March 9.

"We will never have proof," the doctor said. "Unless his entourage says something."

Copyright © 2011 AFP. All rights reserved.

WOOOOOOOOOOOW.... never mind the fact that we've been over this before, and it's already been established (by folks like seth riggs) that michael's voice was actually deep, and the high-pitched voice he did was an aspect of his public performative self. never mind that when he spoke sometimes in live performances, his voice was far from high. and i don't think three octaves in a man is that unusual. he was a tenor, generally. the man practised so much though. he was a notorious perfectionist.

and never mind the fact that the autopsy states the total opposite of what this report says. i'm not sure why people are still wanting to argue that michael was castrated. why y'all wanna go and castrate a black man like that, huh? HUH??!!

these stories are funny, because there is no concrete proof at all. makes for great comedy.

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Reply #644 posted 03/02/11 6:51pm

MJJstudent

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NaughtyKitty said:

hmm doh! Umm, really Dr. Alain? wacky

Well, I was afraid this might happen, the trial has been delayed until May...

Judge delays criminal trial for Jackson doctor

Associated Press - 9 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES - A judge has postponed the trial of a doctor charged inMichael Jackson's death until early May.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor announced the delay Wednesday after meeting in chambers with prosecutors, defense attorneys, and Dr. Conrad Murray.

The move came after the judge asked defense attorneys at previous hearings why they hadn't turned over more information on potential witnesses to prosecutors.

The trial had been scheduled to begin with jury selection on March 24.

Prospective jurors will be given questionnaires on that day, but opening statements are now set to begin on May 9.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news...ctor/57562

how much you wanna bet the trial will begin on 25 june... or even better, 29 august?

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Reply #645 posted 03/02/11 7:12pm

mimi07

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MJJstudent said:

NaughtyKitty said:

hmm doh! Umm, really Dr. Alain? wacky

Well, I was afraid this might happen, the trial has been delayed until May...

Judge delays criminal trial for Jackson doctor

Associated Press - 9 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES - A judge has postponed the trial of a doctor charged inMichael Jackson's death until early May.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor announced the delay Wednesday after meeting in chambers with prosecutors, defense attorneys, and Dr. Conrad Murray.

The move came after the judge asked defense attorneys at previous hearings why they hadn't turned over more information on potential witnesses to prosecutors.

The trial had been scheduled to begin with jury selection on March 24.

Prospective jurors will be given questionnaires on that day, but opening statements are now set to begin on May 9.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news...ctor/57562

how much you wanna bet the trial will begin on 25 june... or even better, 29 august?

I know ths seems to be dragging forever, i can't believe it almost been 2 years sad

[Edited 3/2/11 19:13pm]

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Reply #646 posted 03/02/11 7:13pm

Timmy84

MJJstudent said:

Swa said:

What a lunatic - seems now anyone can make a claim and if it can't be proven otherwise it remains allowable.

Read on, laugh on.

Michael Jackson 'chemically castrated' as child: doctor

MARSEILLE — Michael Jackson may have been more prince than king of pop, a French doctor says in a new book alleging his wide-ranging voice resulted from a childhood chemical castration to fight acne.

"When he died, I realised that he was an unusual phenomenon," Alain Branchereau, an opera buff and professor of vascular surgery at Timone University Hospital in France's Mediterranean port of Marseille, told AFP.

"I said, 'That's the voice of a castrato!'."

After discussing the voice with his colleagues, including endocrinologists, Branchereau ended up with the theory of chemical castration through the synthetic anti-male hormone drug Cyproterone.

"When he was 12, Michael Jackson had acne. We know this, he spoke about it himself as a tragedy. What I think could have happened is that his people suggested this miracle treatment," the doctor said.

Cyproterone "blocks puberty, the voice can't mature," he said, adding that he had read around 20 books on the subject, studied photographs and spoken to specialists in dermatology, voice physiology, plastic surgery, urology as well as to a former singer with the Petits Chanteurs de Sainte-Croix boys choir.

The drug stops bodily hair and the larynx from growing and affects the bones, leaving the body with a slight frame but a large chest.

Once the treatment is finished, the patient "keeps a child's larynx all his life in a man's body," said Branchereau.

The doctor also noted that a male voice breaks during adolescence, becoming difficult to control. "But Michael Jackson never stopped singing," he said.

"An important part of my theory is this voice's exceptional character, which covers three octaves. But I haven't found any grown men's voices that cover three octaves."

Branchereau admitted that he had not contacted Jackson's family or friends for his book, "Michael Jackson, the secret of a voice," due out on March 9.

"We will never have proof," the doctor said. "Unless his entourage says something."

Copyright © 2011 AFP. All rights reserved.

WOOOOOOOOOOOW.... never mind the fact that we've been over this before, and it's already been established (by folks like seth riggs) that michael's voice was actually deep, and the high-pitched voice he did was an aspect of his public performative self. never mind that when he spoke sometimes in live performances, his voice was far from high. and i don't think three octaves in a man is that unusual. he was a tenor, generally. the man practised so much though. he was a notorious perfectionist.

and never mind the fact that the autopsy states the total opposite of what this report says. i'm not sure why people are still wanting to argue that michael was castrated. why y'all wanna go and castrate a black man like that, huh? HUH??!!

these stories are funny, because there is no concrete proof at all. makes for great comedy.

Yeah that's why news is so boring. People gotta rely on stupid stories like this.

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Reply #647 posted 03/02/11 9:58pm

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mimi07 said:

[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Michael-Jackson-and-Mr-T.jpg[/img:$uid]
Mr. T

"I'mma whup yo head!" lol

Honey, stop talking and just create the music.
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Reply #648 posted 03/02/11 9:59pm

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and never mind the fact that the autopsy states the total opposite of what this report says.

I'm saying. If you're gonna come out with an outlandish idiotic claim like this NOW, how about you just read the fucking autopsy report...... which by it's very nature mentions any and all abnormalities.

Some people are just complete idiots.

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Reply #649 posted 03/02/11 10:31pm

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I can´t believe all the "news" today. eek

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #650 posted 03/02/11 11:07pm

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I just found this image on the internet. Not on any MJ site.

Is there some massive cultural thing that I've somehow missed and everybody but me knows this picture?

Because to me, it looks almost EXACTLY like the robot that danced along to "Dancing Machine" in Moonwalker.

[Edited 3/2/11 23:09pm]

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Reply #651 posted 03/02/11 11:26pm

SherryJackson

Militant said:

I just found this image on the internet. Not on any MJ site.

Is there some massive cultural thing that I've somehow missed and everybody but me knows this picture?

Because to me, it looks almost EXACTLY like the robot that danced along to "Dancing Machine" in Moonwalker.

[Edited 3/2/11 23:09pm]

eek That IS awesome...she does like the dancing machine robot in Moonwalker.....

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Reply #652 posted 03/03/11 2:19am

novabrkr

Militant said:

I just found this image on the internet. Not on any MJ site.

Is there some massive cultural thing that I've somehow missed and everybody but me knows this picture?

Because to me, it looks almost EXACTLY like the robot that danced along to "Dancing Machine" in Moonwalker.

[Edited 3/2/11 23:09pm]

Oh yeah, those are very famous pop art pieces by Hajime Sorayama (I had to google the name, although I recognize those pictures from multiple sources - for example, the picture above was reproduced for many 8bit / 16bit computer "demos"). They've been around for decades. I'm pretty sure the inspiration for them was Metropolis and older science fiction and has nothing to do with Michael Jackson or the Jacksons.

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Reply #653 posted 03/03/11 2:51am

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novabrkr said:

Militant said:

I just found this image on the internet. Not on any MJ site.

Is there some massive cultural thing that I've somehow missed and everybody but me knows this picture?

Because to me, it looks almost EXACTLY like the robot that danced along to "Dancing Machine" in Moonwalker.

[Edited 3/2/11 23:09pm]

Oh yeah, those are very famous pop art pieces by Hajime Sorayama (I had to google the name, although I recognize those pictures from multiple sources - for example, the picture above was reproduced for many 8bit / 16bit computer "demos"). They've been around for decades. I'm pretty sure the inspiration for them was Metropolis and older science fiction and has nothing to do with Michael Jackson or the Jacksons.

yes, metropolis was the first thing i thought of when looking at this picture. michael's art was pretty influenced by that film as well.

http://mjjforever.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/024sw-copy.jpg

the whole 'machine man' stupor v. the will of the people theme seemed to be pretty influential in a lot of his art, but to me, it took on a whole other level after the release of HIStory. it was like the 'machine' of government, etc. v. true justice. it's kind of like michael is 'freder', posing as the machine man to warn the people about what is going on.

or, like 'the day the earth stood still', where he is 'gort', visiting earth to warn the people. then when 'earth song' comes on, he is human/'klatuu', stepping in front of the military tank.

it's interesting that in invincible, he used 'the twilight zone' as a theme as well. he was more open about the concept of science fiction/fantasy as reflective of world events in his art, it seems.

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Reply #654 posted 03/03/11 8:58am

Unholyalliance

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[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Michael-Jackson-and-Freddie-Mercury.jpg[/img:$uid]

Freddie Mercury

These two are my most favorite male vocalists in pop music.


luv4ever said:

mimi07 said:

Exactly, fans like that are nuts. They may have all Michael's cd's, knoow all his lyrics, memorized his dance steps, floowed him through the years in the media and they think they know they knew the many personally. Calling michael's family especially his mother the exact same names the tabloids called, him shame.

Thank you for this comment. It makes my skin crawl when some of the "fans" attack 80 year old Katherine Jackson. It seem that some people should anaylze their own relationship with their parents and leave Mrs. Jackson alone!

While I do agree that no one really knows the dynamics of their relationship seeing how no one here grew up with them, but at the same time I find it a little ironic that people are willing to stick up for them as well not realizing that they are just as clueless as those in the 'anti-Jackson family' camp. We had another poster in here in one of these threads some time ago trying to defend Mrs. Jackson’s ‘honor’ or some shit like that, but he’s just as guilty as MOL and anyone else. It is true that no family is perfect, in the least, but at the same time, it’s no secret that the Jackson family has set themselves up for these types of criticisms. The parents have a history of exploiting their children and many casual fans or non-MJ fans see his family, today, as exploiting MJ’s death for their own benefit.

If the Jacksons would stop thinking about new ways to exploit MJ’s death for their own financial gain for one second, I can bet you a million dollars that they would not be subjected to as much criticism as they currently are. But you know what? We have a better chance of accomplishing world peace than that ever happening. Which is why some people will assume that, at the end of the day, they put the value of money over the well being on their own children, because actions speak louder than words ever will.

Then again, it was this kind of attitude that got the Jacksons and Michael to where they are so it’s a doubled edged sword.

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Reply #655 posted 03/03/11 9:14am

Timmy84

Unholyalliance said:

mimi07 said:

[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Michael-Jackson-and-Freddie-Mercury.jpg[/img:$uid]

Freddie Mercury

These two are my most favorite male vocalists in pop music.

Thank you for this comment. It makes my skin crawl when some of the "fans" attack 80 year old Katherine Jackson. It seem that some people should anaylze their own relationship with their parents and leave Mrs. Jackson alone!

Unholyalliance said:

While I do agree that no one really knows the dynamics of their relationship seeing how no one here grew up with them, but at the same time I find it a little ironic that people are willing to stick up for them as well not realizing that they are just as clueless as those in the 'anti-Jackson family' camp. We had another poster in here in one of these threads some time ago trying to defend Mrs. Jackson’s ‘honor’ or some shit like that, but he’s just as guilty as MOL and anyone else. It is true that no family is perfect, in the least, but at the same time, it’s no secret that the Jackson family has set themselves up for these types of criticisms. The parents have a history of exploiting their children and many casual fans or non-MJ fans see his family, today, as exploiting MJ’s death for their own benefit.

If the Jacksons would stop thinking about new ways to exploit MJ’s death for their own financial gain for one second, I can bet you a million dollars that they would not be subjected to as much criticism as they currently are. But you know what? We have a better chance of accomplishing world peace than that ever happening. Which is why some people will assume that, at the end of the day, they put the value of money over the well being on their own children, because actions speak louder than words ever will.

Then again, it was this kind of attitude that got the Jacksons and Michael to where they are so it’s a doubled edged sword.

Agreed with all of this especially the bolded part.

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Reply #656 posted 03/03/11 10:12am

NaughtyKitty

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Unholyalliance said:

mimi07 said:

[img:$uid]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Michael-Jackson-and-Freddie-Mercury.jpg[/img:$uid]

Freddie Mercury

These two are my most favorite male vocalists in pop music.

Thank you for this comment. It makes my skin crawl when some of the "fans" attack 80 year old Katherine Jackson. It seem that some people should anaylze their own relationship with their parents and leave Mrs. Jackson alone!

While I do agree that no one really knows the dynamics of their relationship seeing how no one here grew up with them, but at the same time I find it a little ironic that people are willing to stick up for them as well not realizing that they are just as clueless as those in the 'anti-Jackson family' camp. We had another poster in here in one of these threads some time ago trying to defend Mrs. Jackson’s ‘honor’ or some shit like that, but he’s just as guilty as MOL and anyone else. It is true that no family is perfect, in the least, but at the same time, it’s no secret that the Jackson family has set themselves up for these types of criticisms. The parents have a history of exploiting their children and many casual fans or non-MJ fans see his family, today, as exploiting MJ’s death for their own benefit.

If the Jacksons would stop thinking about new ways to exploit MJ’s death for their own financial gain for one second, I can bet you a million dollars that they would not be subjected to as much criticism as they currently are. But you know what? We have a better chance of accomplishing world peace than that ever happening. Which is why some people will assume that, at the end of the day, they put the value of money over the well being on their own children, because actions speak louder than words ever will.

Then again, it was this kind of attitude that got the Jacksons and Michael to where they are so it’s a doubled edged sword.

Agree with this, well said!

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Reply #657 posted 03/03/11 12:29pm

mookie

Alejandra: MJ Executors ...ve Me Out!

TMZ broke the story ... Katherine Jackson is trying to evict Alejandra from the residence, but Alejandra won't leave.

In her legal papers objecting to the eviction, Alejandra claims the Executors of MJ's estate are trying "to advance ulterior and pompous interests, which are not consistent with the wishes and values of Michael Jackson."

Alejandra claims Katherine doesn't even want her evicted, but says she was "pressured by the Estate" to get her out.

Alejandra claims the Estate is trying to divide and separate the Jackson family.

Alejandra says the Executors threatened to fumigate the house on January 3, 2011 whether she and her kids were in the house or not.

Alejandra also alleges the Executors shut off the gas and began changing the locks while she and the kids were there. She says the Executors even had all the food in the house packed up.

Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman tells TMZ, Alejandra's allegations are "preposterous."

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Reply #658 posted 03/03/11 12:54pm

SherryJackson

mookie said:

Alejandra: MJ Executors ...ve Me Out!

TMZ broke the story ... Katherine Jackson is trying to evict Alejandra from the residence, but Alejandra won't leave.

In her legal papers objecting to the eviction, Alejandra claims the Executors of MJ's estate are trying "to advance ulterior and pompous interests, which are not consistent with the wishes and values of Michael Jackson."

Alejandra claims Katherine doesn't even want her evicted, but says she was "pressured by the Estate" to get her out.

Alejandra claims the Estate is trying to divide and separate the Jackson family.

Alejandra says the Executors threatened to fumigate the house on January 3, 2011 whether she and her kids were in the house or not.

Alejandra also alleges the Executors shut off the gas and began changing the locks while she and the kids were there. She says the Executors even had all the food in the house packed up.

Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman tells TMZ, Alejandra's allegations are "preposterous."

wacky

Alejandra a drama queen for real..

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Reply #659 posted 03/03/11 1:13pm

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SherryJackson said:

mookie said:

Alejandra: MJ Executors ...ve Me Out!

TMZ broke the story ... Katherine Jackson is trying to evict Alejandra from the residence, but Alejandra won't leave.

In her legal papers objecting to the eviction, Alejandra claims the Executors of MJ's estate are trying "to advance ulterior and pompous interests, which are not consistent with the wishes and values of Michael Jackson."

Alejandra claims Katherine doesn't even want her evicted, but says she was "pressured by the Estate" to get her out.

Alejandra claims the Estate is trying to divide and separate the Jackson family.

Alejandra says the Executors threatened to fumigate the house on January 3, 2011 whether she and her kids were in the house or not.

Alejandra also alleges the Executors shut off the gas and began changing the locks while she and the kids were there. She says the Executors even had all the food in the house packed up.

Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman tells TMZ, Alejandra's allegations are "preposterous."

wacky

Alejandra a drama queen for real..

Maybe this is her way of auditioning for that reality tv show she wants. She's showing she's capable of brining the drama and the preposterous.

And lol at the pic they used for this story

Good post from someone on this:

MJ's Estate owns Havenhurst, not Katherine. MJ's Estate owns the condo.

Katherine has claimed that she doesn't get or have any money for over a year and uses that excuse at to why she teamed up with Howard Mann in order to make money.

The Estate has been extremely considerate and generous with Katherine since MJ died. As owners of Havenhurst, they have legal authority to evict. When Alejandra and her brood leave Havenhurst, then Katherine will have more money by not paying a huge food bill, etc. The Estate offered Alejandra to use of the condo, but she refused.

The Estate and Alejandra will go to court on March 15. If the judge rules in the Estate's favor, a deadline will be set for Alejandra to get out. If she doesn't, she will be physically removed.

Alejandra shouldn't be spending money to fight the Estate in court, but rather spending money to get Randy and Jermaine to pay child support arrears and garnish their paychecks for ongoing steady monthly payments to their kids.

What creates a squatter:
1. The primary blame starts with Jermaine and Randy for not paying support & unloading their kids on an 80 yr old.
2. Katherine for not having the intestinal fortitude to remove Alejandra. That condo is only a few miles away from Havenhurst, so she isn't depriving her grandchildren of anything.
3. Alejandra, a spoiled crazy beotch that thinks she has entitlement to Havenhurst which was created by Jermaine, Randy and Katherine's mentality for giving her a free ride for so many years.

Since Alejandra was given eviction notice months ago, hopefully the judge will give her 5 days to be out.

"Alejandra also alleges the Executors shut off the gas and began changing the locks while she and the kids were there. She says the Executors even had all the food in the house packed up."

It's illegal for a landlord to shut off utilities to force a tenant to move, so Alejandra is lying with that statement.

As far as the food in the house being packed up, perhaps it was Jermaine looking for all his jewelry in his Louis Vitton bag. Yesterday Jermaine was in Dubai. How much longer is Halima going to support him? Deadbeat dad and husband.


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