Okay I was just listening to the beginning of "I Like The Way You Love Me" where Michael it talking,and he says "Okay this is the tempo,and this is the melody"

I screamed cause I thought he said "Okay this is for Tyrone,and this is for Melanie *my name*

Yeesh! I'm such a girl.

BabyBeMine said:

Yes it is, but i will stop right there.

I think you should.....

how come MJ create a beat that doesn't fit with his vocals ? This is bullshit...Teddy speeding the vocals up to fit the beat...Again...this is bullshit......Some serious shady shit was done on those Uncompleted songs ......

I

EmeraldSkies said:

Okay I was just listening to the beginning of "I Like The Way You Love Me" where Michael it talking,and he says "Okay this is the tempo,and this is the melody"

I screamed cause I thought he said "Okay this is for Tyrone,and this is for Melanie *my name*

Yeesh! I'm such a girl.

Erykah Badu already got a song for Tyrone.

Militant said:

MOL said:

Give me one example. Just one.

How about the one you just quoted in your own post, when you insinuated that Joe Jackson wanted the autopsy photos so that he could sell them to the media? I have some great words to describe what that is - unsubstantiated speculation and conjecture. Joe Jackson, for all his past exploitations, has done nothing to warrant that kind of accusation.

Michael forgave him and moved on with his life - it's a shame you can't seem to do the same. Why you consistently throw shade on a family that you don't even know is completely baffling to any and every rational-thinking member of this board, and it's not because we're all wearing "special vision glasses" and it's not because we all believe in some, to quote your oft-used juvenile remark, "conspiracyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy".

Unless you provide reasonable, rational facts to back up what you say and lose the teenage sarcasm, don't expect anyone here to take anything you say seriously.

Seriously, coming in here insinuating that Joe would sell photos of his son's corpse? Well, you know who else makes up random shit to suit his argument? Joseph Jackson. Hey look, another similarity between you and the person you despise so much.

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*Waiting for my copy of the album to ship from Amazon*

Cinnamon234 said:

*Waiting for my copy of the album to ship from Amazon*

Wal - Mart has it already.

bboy87 said:

Militant said:

How about the one you just quoted in your own post, when you insinuated that Joe Jackson wanted the autopsy photos so that he could sell them to the media? I have some great words to describe what that is - unsubstantiated speculation and conjecture. Joe Jackson, for all his past exploitations, has done nothing to warrant that kind of accusation.

Michael forgave him and moved on with his life - it's a shame you can't seem to do the same. Why you consistently throw shade on a family that you don't even know is completely baffling to any and every rational-thinking member of this board, and it's not because we're all wearing "special vision glasses" and it's not because we all believe in some, to quote your oft-used juvenile remark, "conspiracyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy".

Unless you provide reasonable, rational facts to back up what you say and lose the teenage sarcasm, don't expect anyone here to take anything you say seriously.

Seriously, coming in here insinuating that Joe would sell photos of his son's corpse? Well, you know who else makes up random shit to suit his argument? Joseph Jackson. Hey look, another similarity between you and the person you despise so much.

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seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

You know we all listened to the entire album 2 weeks prior to it's official release.....

That's why I find the questions asked about the goodness or badness of the album weird

Basically.

paisleypark4 said:

So whats all the info on "BEst Of Joy"?

I cannot stop listening to this track...especially the last minute climax....its so warm and preaceful. Its a beautiful song that fits Michael's spirit so well.

The adlibs on the end..YES YES YES...

It's a beautiful number. This was supposed to be the song he was going to sing at the concerts too.

[Edited 12/13/10 18:12pm]

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

You know we all listened to the entire album 2 weeks prior to it's official release.....

That's why I find the questions asked about the goodness or badness of the album weird

Yeah obviously I was talking about the thoughts in having the physical product - the booklet, the notes, the artwork, the music - the whole shebang.

And Timmy - i thought you were holding off too til you got the physical product, lol.

Swa said:

seeingvoices12 said:

You know we all listened to the entire album 2 weeks prior to it's official release.....

That's why I find the questions asked about the goodness or badness of the album weird

Yeah obviously I was talking about the thoughts in having the physical product - the booklet, the notes, the artwork, the music - the whole shebang.

And Timmy - i thought you were holding off too til you got the physical product, lol.

I listened to the stream. I kept going back to "Best of Joy".

bboy87 said:

Militant said:

How about the one you just quoted in your own post, when you insinuated that Joe Jackson wanted the autopsy photos so that he could sell them to the media? I have some great words to describe what that is - unsubstantiated speculation and conjecture. Joe Jackson, for all his past exploitations, has done nothing to warrant that kind of accusation.

Michael forgave him and moved on with his life - it's a shame you can't seem to do the same. Why you consistently throw shade on a family that you don't even know is completely baffling to any and every rational-thinking member of this board, and it's not because we're all wearing "special vision glasses" and it's not because we all believe in some, to quote your oft-used juvenile remark, "conspiracyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy".

Unless you provide reasonable, rational facts to back up what you say and lose the teenage sarcasm, don't expect anyone here to take anything you say seriously.

Seriously, coming in here insinuating that Joe would sell photos of his son's corpse? Well, you know who else makes up random shit to suit his argument? Joseph Jackson. Hey look, another similarity between you and the person you despise so much.

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Slayed to the gods.

...DRAG that bitch! Let her know Militant!

Mol been copying and pasting the same B.S since last year I don’t even read it now.

Not sure if this has been posted here already. I didn't get to check the last few pages of the last MJ thread..

This is a link the full download of Slave to the Rhythm. Love this song. Anyone know when it might have been recorded?

** whoops! been off the site for a few days and didn't read the moderator's disclaimer*** I took off the link.

[Edited 12/14/10 16:49pm]

Does anyone knows who recorded "Mamacita"? It has a nice latin beat. Sometimes, the name comes up as MJ and sometimes Jason Malachi.

MyLuv229 said:

Not sure if this has been posted here already. I didn't get to check the last few pages of the last MJ thread..

This is a link the full download of Slave to the Rhythm. Love this song. Anyone know when it might have been recorded?

[Snip - luv4u]

Thank you SO much! Been waiting for this!

Sounds like "Dangerous" era to me.

Regarding the cover of Michael:

Painting is like the illustrated biography of Michael Jackson Updated 1h 52m ago

By Bob Riha Jr., USA TODAY A wall full of memories: Artist Kadir Nelson, left, and Jackie Jackson, Michael's brother, in front of the 9-by-4.5-foot painting. By Andrea Mandell, USA TODAY LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson always knew how to stir the pot. Almost 18 months after the artist's death, fans have been speculating about the meaning behind the painting reprinted on the cover ofMichael, Jackson's posthumous album out today. Jackson's brother Jackie and the artist,Kadir Nelson, shared the story behind the CD cover in an exclusive interview. In 2003, while recording the song One More Chance, Jackson spotted a tribute painting ofMarvin Gaye's life in Gaye's studio. The King of Pop immediately dialed Nelson. "He said, 'I want one about me, but I want it to be bigger,' " Nelson says. "He was always like that," Jackie adds with a grin. "He wanted things big."But with Jackson's legal troubles mounting at the time, "it fell through the cracks," Nelson says. Two weeks after Jackson's death in June 2009, the 9-by-41/2-foot painting was recommissioned by his estate. In the painting, a portion of which is reproduced on the CD jacket and will appear in promotional posters, trivia-savvy fans will spot a spaceship, harking back to Jackson's 1982 E.T. collaboration, and a floating golden gavel, a nod to his courtroom drama. Jackson's children, Paris, Prince and "Blanket," appear in the painting multiple times. In one scene, they sit alongside Michael, his hand gripping a supersized water gun. Jackie says water guns were — and remain — a family favorite. "They've always got water guns down (at Hayvenhurst, the Jackson family home in Encino)," Jackie says, chuckling. "You have to be careful — they don't care what you're wearing." Nelson painted a host of Jackson's famous friends into the piece, but audiences will never see Elizabeth Taylor, Madonna, Oprah Winfrey and Debbie Rowe in reproductions. Nelson and Jackie say those famous folks withheld copyright permission and will be left out of released artwork. The most surprising refusal, Jackie says, was Taylor's. "All the things he's done for Liz Taylor," he murmurs, shaking his head. Who can be spotted in posters? Friends such as Naomi Campbell, Tatum O'Neal and ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley. There are 50 representations of the pop star in the supersized painting to commemorate the years he lived. "I had to count every day to make sure I was right on," says Nelson, who included a crowned goldfish trapped inside a bubble in his final tally. "Michael was so popular, he lived (like a fish) in a bubble." For the dominant image of Jackson in the painting, Nelson focused on the idea of royalty, putting Michael in a suit of armor with his hand placed over his heart, "because Michael put his heart into everything that he did," Nelson says. Jackie gestures to a tiny Volkswagen in the painting that reminds him of the early years. "The bus," he says, remembering how "freezing, going to Chicago in the cold and the snow," they were back then, "taking instruments out of that bus and slipping on the ice." Today, he says, the family is still healing from Michael's death: "It's something you never get over. "

Source:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2010-12-14-michaelalbum14_ST_N.htm

Vanilli said:

MyLuv229 said:

Not sure if this has been posted here already. I didn't get to check the last few pages of the last MJ thread..

This is a link the full download of Slave to the Rhythm. Love this song. Anyone know when it might have been recorded?

[Snip - luv4u]

Thank you SO much! Been waiting for this!

Sounds like "Dangerous" era to me.

I don't know, it sounds like one of those 80s dance songs. I could totally picture this as a club song. His vocals don't sound 90s... more like the 2000s, but the beat fits an earlier period. I'm stumped!

But I love this song!!

bboy87 said:

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Regarding "Monster", out of all three Cascio songs this sounds the LEAST like Michael. I'm honestly shocked that anyone thinks that's MJ. It's just not.

MyLuv229 said:

Not sure if this has been posted here already. I didn't get to check the last few pages of the last MJ thread..

This is a link the full download of Slave to the Rhythm. Love this song. Anyone know when it might have been recorded?

[Snip - luv4u]

you're going to get in trouble for that.

but this easily beats almost everything that made it onto "Michael"

I hope prodcuers, engineers, and anyone else with tapes starts coming forward with this kind of stuff. another album on par with the quality of "Michael" is going to derail any plans Sony or his family had of making any money off of unreleased tracks.

"Slave To The Rhythm" is absolutely killer.

Seriously, how freakin' hard would it have been to replace the three fake songs with this one, "Blue Gangster" and "Do You Know/12 O' Clock"? We would have had a solid album then.

Militant said:

"Slave To The Rhythm" is absolutely killer.

Seriously, how freakin' hard would it have been to replace the three fake songs with this one, "Blue Gangster" and "Do You Know/12 O' Clock"? We would have had a solid album then.

My thoughts exactly. And it totally fits the club/radio scene. I still dont' get it. I think they're trying to milk the album any way they can. They're probably saving Slave to the Rhythm for the next album (packaged with a few fake ones, of course)

MyLuv229 said:

Not sure if this has been posted here already. I didn't get to check the last few pages of the last MJ thread..

This is a link the full download of Slave to the Rhythm. Love this song. Anyone know when it might have been recorded?

[Snip - luv4u]

THANK YOU!!

Militant said:

bboy87 said:

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Regarding "Monster", out of all three Cascio songs this sounds the LEAST like Michael. I'm honestly shocked that anyone thinks that's MJ. It's just not.

The one thing I like about "Monster" is all the samples of Michael during the rap the "Ha!"

(Where is it from again? I'm a longtime fan but I'm terrible at placing any samples unless it is

as obvious as the "Earth Song" rip off.) I consider "Monster" almost like a Jason Malachi song

featuring samples of Michael..so I enjoy it. And honestly, the lyrics are pretty much on par with

Michael's writing style. I'm not excusing the fakery of it all but just saying...they did a nice job trying to pull a bait and switch on us. No matter if Michael really did contribute to writing any of it or not, it is an OKAY song IMO.

The "Monster" beat is much more funkier and relates towatds todays music than "slave to the rythyum" which is a good song...But you can't BUMP it in your car like "monster"

Hip Hop fans are lovin this track because of the base. If you got a good sound system in your car and you feel the base Teddy Riley put together. When i 1st heard it on the computer, i couldn't hear the base in this song. Put it on in the car and i was like damn....This is a track NON FANS will love

Even at the Barber shop. Dudes who are not even MJ fans. Been going there for years and remember playing YRMW..and they were like thats NOT HOT....lol

Teddy Riley did his thing on this beat

Vanilli said:

Regarding the cover of Michael:

Painting is like the illustrated biography of Michael Jackson Updated 1h 52m ago

By Bob Riha Jr., USA TODAY A wall full of memories: Artist Kadir Nelson, left, and Jackie Jackson, Michael's brother, in front of the 9-by-4.5-foot painting. By Andrea Mandell, USA TODAY LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson always knew how to stir the pot. Almost 18 months after the artist's death, fans have been speculating about the meaning behind the painting reprinted on the cover ofMichael, Jackson's posthumous album out today. Jackson's brother Jackie and the artist,Kadir Nelson, shared the story behind the CD cover in an exclusive interview. In 2003, while recording the song One More Chance, Jackson spotted a tribute painting ofMarvin Gaye's life in Gaye's studio. The King of Pop immediately dialed Nelson. "He said, 'I want one about me, but I want it to be bigger,' " Nelson says. "He was always like that," Jackie adds with a grin. "He wanted things big."But with Jackson's legal troubles mounting at the time, "it fell through the cracks," Nelson says. Two weeks after Jackson's death in June 2009, the 9-by-41/2-foot painting was recommissioned by his estate. In the painting, a portion of which is reproduced on the CD jacket and will appear in promotional posters, trivia-savvy fans will spot a spaceship, harking back to Jackson's 1982 E.T. collaboration, and a floating golden gavel, a nod to his courtroom drama. Jackson's children, Paris, Prince and "Blanket," appear in the painting multiple times. In one scene, they sit alongside Michael, his hand gripping a supersized water gun. Jackie says water guns were — and remain — a family favorite. "They've always got water guns down (at Hayvenhurst, the Jackson family home in Encino)," Jackie says, chuckling. "You have to be careful — they don't care what you're wearing." Nelson painted a host of Jackson's famous friends into the piece, but audiences will never see Elizabeth Taylor, Madonna, Oprah Winfrey and Debbie Rowe in reproductions. Nelson and Jackie say those famous folks withheld copyright permission and will be left out of released artwork. The most surprising refusal, Jackie says, was Taylor's. "All the things he's done for Liz Taylor," he murmurs, shaking his head. Who can be spotted in posters? Friends such as Naomi Campbell, Tatum O'Neal and ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley. There are 50 representations of the pop star in the supersized painting to commemorate the years he lived. "I had to count every day to make sure I was right on," says Nelson, who included a crowned goldfish trapped inside a bubble in his final tally. "Michael was so popular, he lived (like a fish) in a bubble." For the dominant image of Jackson in the painting, Nelson focused on the idea of royalty, putting Michael in a suit of armor with his hand placed over his heart, "because Michael put his heart into everything that he did," Nelson says. Jackie gestures to a tiny Volkswagen in the painting that reminds him of the early years. "The bus," he says, remembering how "freezing, going to Chicago in the cold and the snow," they were back then, "taking instruments out of that bus and slipping on the ice." Today, he says, the family is still healing from Michael's death: "It's something you never get over. "

Source:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2010-12-14-michaelalbum14_ST_N.htm

I would love to see the entire painting.

I'm with you on that Vanilli. I'm generally not commenting on the quality of the songs, because I actually fairly enjoy "Monster" and "Keep Your Head Up"..... and even "Breaking News" to a lesser extent.

And, I have no problem believing that Michael wrote these songs either. It's just not him singing them. The sad thing is, if they just admitted from the beginning that they got someone else to sing some songs that Michael had written, none of us would have had a problem with it. They could have just stuck "Blue Gangster", "Do You Know" and "Slave To The Rhythm" on the album and had the three Cascio songs as bonus tracks.

But trying to pull the wool over everyones eyes and convince everyone it's Michael is just ridiculous and shameful.

paisleypark4 said:

So whats all the info on "BEst Of Joy"?

I cannot stop listening to this track...especially the last minute climax....its so warm and preaceful. Its a beautiful song that fits Michael's spirit so well.

The adlibs on the end..YES YES YES...

According to John Branca, MJ was taking the track "Best of Joy" to London to finish it.

So it is truly one of the final songs he recorded.

Lets keep in mind fans were insulting Teddy Riley for a week straight on Twitter and his was being very polite. Then he finally was like fuck it

I mean dude aint Jesus Christ...Diss me for a week and still smile. I dont know one brotha in this world who could do that. Not Possible.

Maybe he shoouldnt have gotten personel with fans in the first place.

Looky what is on eBay for 25,000.00 buy it now.

According to the listing, Michael drew this as a self portrait

for someone who worked at Neverland Valley Ranch.

It sure looks like his drawing style and the signature looks legit IMO.

I know there is that whole thing of an artist's art revealing

more about the "artist" then the art itself..but this is just spooky.

At any rate, here is the listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Only-Known-Michael-Jackson-Self-Portrait-Signed-Art-/180600687194?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0ca3ca5a#ht_500wt_867