WildStyle said:

Same reason she didn't turn up to the memorial. That type of thing is just not her style. She loved Michael without a doubt. That should not be questioned. Jackie shouldn't take it the wrong way.

Check out http://thatgrapejuice.net/ to see an interview with Teddy Riley about MJ

SoulAlive said:

^^I like the idea of taking the old vocals,bringing in a real band of musicians (preferably the same ones who played on 'OTW' and 'Thriller') and producing/finishing these songs Old School style.I dislike the idea of taking old,unfinished tracks and "modernizing" them to sound like 2010.My feeling is,if a song was originally written and recorded in 1982,THAT'S the era I want it to sound like.

Militant said:

The Estate sent me a copyright takedown notice and Tumblr removed my "Behind The Mask" OG Vibe clip!!!! Bastards. It's still on my SoundCloud though

You better stop getting into trouble!

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Has "Hollywood Tonight" been confirmed as definitely MJ on the track?, as it sounds like it's either someone singing with MJ or it has been over-dubbed with another vocalist. I know there's alot of questions around "Keep Your Head Up", "Breaking News" & "Monster" as not being MJ and IMO, it doesn't sound like MJ on those songs.

I think "Behind the Mask" is the best track on the album, would have been interesting if MJ included it on 'Thriller' (I'm not sure where that would have fit in with the albums configuration, maybe instead of 'The Girl Is Mine' maybe) although I prefer the mix which Militant done of 'Behind The Mask' with the Greg Phillinganes instrumental.

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kibbles said:

WildStyle said:

Same reason she didn't turn up to the memorial. That type of thing is just not her style. She loved Michael without a doubt. That should not be questioned. Jackie shouldn't take it the wrong way.

who in their right mind would want to be a part of this cheesy assed "mural"? YUCK!!! it is fucking awful. i will likely purchase the cd eventually, but that cover goes in the garbage! i would have declined, too, if i was liz.

I dunno, it's grown on me. See my sig for the full artwork in decent Hi-Res.

What is everybody's first week sales prediction? I'm going with 450,000.

thetimefan said:

Has "Hollywood Tonight" been confirmed as definitely MJ on the track?, as it sounds like it's either someone singing with MJ or it has been over-dubbed with another vocalist. I know there's alot of questions around "Keep Your Head Up", "Breaking News" & "Monster" as not being MJ and IMO, it doesn't sound like MJ on those songs.

I think "Behind the Mask" is the best track on the album, would have been interesting if MJ included it on 'Thriller' (I'm not sure where that would have fit in with the albums configuration, maybe instead of 'The Girl Is Mine' maybe) although I prefer the mix which Militant done of 'Behind The Mask' with the Greg Phillinganes instrumental.

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Yeah they said HT was the only real Michael track that Teddy worked on. Tarryl Jackson said that on Twitter a few days ago right around the same time Teddy tried to pull the riot act on Twitter.

musicjunky318 said:

What is everybody's first week sales prediction? I'm going with 450,000.

Just about right, it's between 430-450K for me.

Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

What is everybody's first week sales prediction? I'm going with 450,000.

Just about right, it's between 430-450K for me.

I'd say around 215-250k

Marrk said:

kibbles said:

who in their right mind would want to be a part of this cheesy assed "mural"? YUCK!!! it is fucking awful. i will likely purchase the cd eventually, but that cover goes in the garbage! i would have declined, too, if i was liz.

I dunno, it's grown on me. See my sig for the full artwork in decent Hi-Res.

Anyone feel like helping me out by telling me who everyone is in the top left of the full size album artwork? There are a few people there I don't know...

OK thanks.

Not sure on everyone but I've noticed Marvin Gaye, The Three Stooges, Eddie Murphy, Berry Gordy & Suzanne DePasse, Teddy Riley, Kenny Ortega, the guy with the hat and goatee is Red Foxx (?), Sammy Davis Jr, The Temps, Smokey, Diana Ross, Jackie Wilson, James Brown, Frank Sinatra, Charlie Chaplin, Gamble & Huff, Quincy Jones, Nelson Mandela, Joe Jackson (?) or is that Percy Sledge (?) , Little Richard (?), Stephen Spielberg, the guy with the cigar is Frank Dileo (?)

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thetimefan said:

Yeah they said HT was the only real Michael track that Teddy worked on. Tarryl Jackson said that on Twitter a few days ago right around the same time Teddy tried to pull the riot act on Twitter

OK thanks.

Anyone feel like helping me out by telling me who everyone is in the top left of the full size album artwork? There are a few people there I don't know

Not sure on everyone but I've noticed Marvin Gaye, The Three Stooges, Eddie Murphy, Berry Gordy & Suzanne DePasse, Teddy Riley, Kenny Ortega, the guy with the hat and goatee is Red Foxx (?), Sammy Davis Jr, The Temps, Smokey, Diana Ross, Jackie Wilson, James Brown, Frank Sinatra, Charlie Chaplin, Gamble & Huff, Quincy Jones, Nelson Mandela, Joe Jackson (?) or is that Percy Sledge (?) , Little Richard (?), Stephen Spielberg, the guy with the cigar is Frank Dileo (?)

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Thanks, that sorts a lot of them out, who is that above the three stooges?

thetimefan said:

Yeah they said HT was the only real Michael track that Teddy worked on. Tarryl Jackson said that on Twitter a few days ago right around the same time Teddy tried to pull the riot act on Twitter

OK thanks.

Anyone feel like helping me out by telling me who everyone is in the top left of the full size album artwork? There are a few people there I don't know

Not sure on everyone but I've noticed Marvin Gaye, The Three Stooges, Eddie Murphy, Berry Gordy & Suzanne DePasse, Teddy Riley, Kenny Ortega, the guy with the hat and goatee is Red Foxx (?), Sammy Davis Jr, The Temps, Smokey, Diana Ross, Jackie Wilson, James Brown, Frank Sinatra, Charlie Chaplin, Gamble & Huff, Quincy Jones, Nelson Mandela, Joe Jackson (?) or is that Percy Sledge (?) , Little Richard (?), Stephen Spielberg, the guy with the cigar is Frank Dileo (?)

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could be wrong, but i think the guy in the hat w/ the goatee is the late Bill Bray (friend/former security guard). Dick Clark? (next to chaplin), Bruce Swedien? (next to Ortega), that's all i got lol

Yea I think your right about Bill Bray & Bruce Swedien. I thought it was a young Frank Sinatra next to Charlie Chaplin but it could be Dick Clark. I'm guessing Fred Astaire could be somewhere on there too since he influenced MJ's dancing.

EmeraldSkies said:

Vanilli said:

Regarding the cover of Michael:

Painting is like the illustrated biography of Michael Jackson Updated 1h 52m ago

By Bob Riha Jr., USA TODAY A wall full of memories: Artist Kadir Nelson, left, and Jackie Jackson, Michael's brother, in front of the 9-by-4.5-foot painting. By Andrea Mandell, USA TODAY LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson always knew how to stir the pot. Almost 18 months after the artist's death, fans have been speculating about the meaning behind the painting reprinted on the cover ofMichael, Jackson's posthumous album out today. Jackson's brother Jackie and the artist,Kadir Nelson, shared the story behind the CD cover in an exclusive interview. In 2003, while recording the song One More Chance, Jackson spotted a tribute painting ofMarvin Gaye's life in Gaye's studio. The King of Pop immediately dialed Nelson. "He said, 'I want one about me, but I want it to be bigger,' " Nelson says. "He was always like that," Jackie adds with a grin. "He wanted things big."But with Jackson's legal troubles mounting at the time, "it fell through the cracks," Nelson says. Two weeks after Jackson's death in June 2009, the 9-by-41/2-foot painting was recommissioned by his estate. In the painting, a portion of which is reproduced on the CD jacket and will appear in promotional posters, trivia-savvy fans will spot a spaceship, harking back to Jackson's 1982 E.T. collaboration, and a floating golden gavel, a nod to his courtroom drama. Jackson's children, Paris, Prince and "Blanket," appear in the painting multiple times. In one scene, they sit alongside Michael, his hand gripping a supersized water gun. Jackie says water guns were — and remain — a family favorite. "They've always got water guns down (at Hayvenhurst, the Jackson family home in Encino)," Jackie says, chuckling. "You have to be careful — they don't care what you're wearing." Nelson painted a host of Jackson's famous friends into the piece, but audiences will never see Elizabeth Taylor, Madonna, Oprah Winfrey and Debbie Rowe in reproductions. Nelson and Jackie say those famous folks withheld copyright permission and will be left out of released artwork. The most surprising refusal, Jackie says, was Taylor's. "All the things he's done for Liz Taylor," he murmurs, shaking his head. Who can be spotted in posters? Friends such as Naomi Campbell, Tatum O'Neal and ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley. There are 50 representations of the pop star in the supersized painting to commemorate the years he lived. "I had to count every day to make sure I was right on," says Nelson, who included a crowned goldfish trapped inside a bubble in his final tally. "Michael was so popular, he lived (like a fish) in a bubble." For the dominant image of Jackson in the painting, Nelson focused on the idea of royalty, putting Michael in a suit of armor with his hand placed over his heart, "because Michael put his heart into everything that he did," Nelson says. Jackie gestures to a tiny Volkswagen in the painting that reminds him of the early years. "The bus," he says, remembering how "freezing, going to Chicago in the cold and the snow," they were back then, "taking instruments out of that bus and slipping on the ice." Today, he says, the family is still healing from Michael's death: "It's something you never get over. "

Source:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2010-12-14-michaelalbum14_ST_N.htm

I would love to see the entire painting.

It's the centrespread of the booklet.

Swa said:

EmeraldSkies said:

I would love to see the entire painting.

It's the centrespread of the booklet.

I'm not buying it.

Timmy84 said:

SoulAlive said:

^^I like the idea of taking the old vocals,bringing in a real band of musicians (preferably the same ones who played on 'OTW' and 'Thriller') and producing/finishing these songs Old School style.I dislike the idea of taking old,unfinished tracks and "modernizing" them to sound like 2010.My feeling is,if a song was originally written and recorded in 1982,THAT'S the era I want it to sound like.

ok,so i downloaded the album,& after getting thru the 1st half of "Hollywood Tonight",(apologies if this has been brought up already) & i came 2 the conclusion that THAT AINT MJ!

However i LOVE "Monster".BadAss track! yet 2 hear the rest.just skimming thru as after the discussions earlier about whether some of the tracks really are MJ or not,my anticipation for this release wained & that is really sad because i Love Michael & have been waiting 8 years for some unheard MJ.

When the footage of MJ singing in the cascio studio is released will you admit you were all wrong?

There's footage and it will prove MJ sang those cascio tracks. Look out for next single and video....

Kara said:

MyLuv229 said:

Not sure if this has been posted here already. I didn't get to check the last few pages of the last MJ thread..

This is a link the full download of Slave to the Rhythm. Love this song. Anyone know when it might have been recorded?

Thanks for sharing! [Although you aren't supposed to post links ]

This still isn't the full version, though. Someone has tried the best they could to paste together the snippets that have been released and remove the obnoxious DJ, but the bridge has been cut off. It's longer in another snippet I have. I wish the full version would just leak already.

I just read the moderator's disclaimer... whoops! I edited my original post, but everyone's been quoting me and it's showing up on their posts. Oh well. Yeah, I just found out that it's a 3:40 second snippet, not the official full version. But from the sound of it, it sounds like it could be a great song.

BreakingNews sounds a bit suss aswell.

I Can't Make It Another Day is amazing! my new favourite song!

Swa said:

EmeraldSkies said:

I would love to see the entire painting.

It's the centrespread of the booklet.

I looked at the picture in the center of the booklet,and did'nt seee some of the things the article talks about being in the painting. The article says that Michael's children are featured several times,but I only see them on the bottom right. The article says that there is a picture of Michael holding a huge super soaker water gun,and I don't see that either.

EmeraldSkies said:

Swa said:

It's the centrespread of the booklet.

I looked at the picture in the center of the booklet,and did'nt seee some of the things the article talks about being in the painting. The article says that Michael's children are featured several times,but I only see them on the bottom right. The article says that there is a picture of Michael holding a huge super soaker water gun,and I don't see that either.

Hit the link in my sig. They're there. There's a bronze statue of Mike around the 'Dangerous' era (just above Bubbles), sat down with the super soaker, the kids are there too.

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Marrk said:

EmeraldSkies said:

I looked at the picture in the center of the booklet,and did'nt seee some of the things the article talks about being in the painting. The article says that Michael's children are featured several times,but I only see them on the bottom right. The article says that there is a picture of Michael holding a huge super soaker water gun,and I don't see that either.

Hit the link in my sig. They're there. There's a bronze statue of Mike around the 'Dangerous' era (just above Bubbles), sat down with the super soaker, the kids are there too.

[Edited 12/14/10 17:21pm]

Ah...there they are. Thank you Marrk.

I have a good belly laugh every time some fanbot says that he's not singing some of these songs.

errant said:

I have a good belly laugh every time some fanbot says that he's not singing some of these songs.

Why?

errant said:

I have a good belly laugh every time some fanbot says that he's not singing some of these songs.

Because it's so obvious that it doesn't need to be pointed out? I agree then.