bboy87 said:

MOL said:

I'm in love with Paris Jackson. Such a charismatic, intelligent, beautiful, tough little woman.

Such a shame Katherine Jackson was quick to say all her children are good dads (an outrageous lie) but painted Michael as a bad one. In an interview with some newspaper, she claimed his children had no friends (refuted by many) thus portraying her son as a father who isolated them. Also, by claiming her single dad son died from "junkiness", she's passing the image of a really horrible father. Let's all slander Michael!!!

Or is it that I'm just a worshipper?! Perhaps it's just me, but the guy's family is destroying his legacy as days go by.

To me, saying Michael, a single father of three, died from junkiness (which he did not) is even worse than calling him a child molester. By saying so, they are giving reason to Diane Dimond, Gloria Allred, Nancy Grace and all those who demanded that those three kids were taken away from Michael.

Paris was very confident. She's definitely not to be taken lightly

Although I don't always agree with you MOL, one thing I do agree on is the inconsistency. First he's a out of it drug addict in denial but then you hear his children and they don't paint a picture of that at all. They give the picture of a loving, attentive, fun but strict father who had a special relationship with each of his kids

I believe it's all going to be in the wash when the trial officially starts. Some fans have said they're noticing that some of the media is moving away from the tabloid crap to a more celebratory mood, hopefully that happens more. His legacy should be about the good things because they far outweigh any negativity IMO

I am on the Taj, TJ, Taryll, and Jackie's side about the questionable tracks that are supposedly on Michael. Breaking News and Monster don't sound like Michael AT ALL

I agree with bboy's post.

Why is this happening???? Of all the unreleased songs and demos, why do they need to fake this s**t??

Is it possible to organize a major boycott of this album at least until Sony gets their s**t together?

EmbattledWarrior said:

BabyBeMine said:

Older MJ cant sing a fast track as good as young MJ and thats a fact. Young MJ could sing fast but still sound smooth and clear. Older MJ when he sang songs that required him to sing faster his voice sounded strained and not as smooth.

If MJ ay 49 years old sang the Off the Wall dance tracks we would be like.....THATS NOT MJ

Point is when your older its easier to sing slower songs

I know you're a troll

But damn, did you fail your GED?

Do you know anything about physics?

You sound like a moron...

Wow...

I think you need to step away from the Keyboard and go to bed.

You're done...

Say What! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to hear that MJ didn't sing up tempo tracks as well as in the 80's. Its not putting him down because he was just older. This is true.

Majority of radio stations, fans thought the best tracks on the 2001 Invincible album were Butterflies, Break Of Dawn, Heaven Can Wait, Whatever Happens

The up tempo tracks were wack. Sony didn't release unbreakable because radio was getting so much posituve feedback for Butterflies.

All of his dance tracks have been disappontments for like 20 years now. I think Ne Yo's Mid Tempo style is better suited for Michael's voice.

"Breaking News" and "Monster" are both fake-con job songs. Ick.

Vanilli said:

"Breaking News" and "Monster" are both fake-con job songs. Ick.

Oh yeah.......I think a good majority of us (myself included) can "hee hee" betta than that foo'!

SherryJackson said:

Vanilli said:

"Breaking News" and "Monster" are both fake-con job songs. Ick.

Oh yeah.......I think a good majority of us (myself included) can "hee hee" betta than that foo'!

Found out who tak_1984_tak was from youtube, girl who was selling Michael Jackson 7 leaked songs and put up monster snippet, she's Marisa Tak, uses the email addys tak_1984_tak@live.com & tak_1984_tak@yahoo.com

Here facebook is below if anyone interested

http://www.facebook.com/p...0274202714

Explain to me this....*massages temples*

bboy87 said:

MOL said:

I'm in love with Paris Jackson. Such a charismatic, intelligent, beautiful, tough little woman.

Such a shame Katherine Jackson was quick to say all her children are good dads (an outrageous lie) but painted Michael as a bad one. In an interview with some newspaper, she claimed his children had no friends (refuted by many) thus portraying her son as a father who isolated them. Also, by claiming her single dad son died from "junkiness", she's passing the image of a really horrible father. Let's all slander Michael!!!

Or is it that I'm just a worshipper?! Perhaps it's just me, but the guy's family is destroying his legacy as days go by.

To me, saying Michael, a single father of three, died from junkiness (which he did not) is even worse than calling him a child molester. By saying so, they are giving reason to Diane Dimond, Gloria Allred, Nancy Grace and all those who demanded that those three kids were taken away from Michael.

Paris was very confident. She's definitely not to be taken lightly

Paris seems to act and think way beyond her age. I loved the girl's smile directed at the cousins, in the beginning of that part of the interview and her "best dad *changes tone and expression* ever". She's very charismatic and is the girl bright!

Although I don't always agree with you MOL, one thing I do agree on is the inconsistency. First he's a out of it drug addict in denial but then you hear his children and they don't paint a picture of that at all. They give the picture of a loving, attentive, fun but strict father who had a special relationship with each of his kids

Point one thing I've said that is false. I'm open to criticism as long as it is factual. But don't let your Jackson family colored heart deceive your mind cause I ain't taking no BS.

I believe it's all going to be in the wash when the trial officially starts. Some fans have said they're noticing that some of the media is moving away from the tabloid crap to a more celebratory mood, hopefully that happens more. His legacy should be about the good things because they far outweigh any negativity IMo

Bboy, there is where we disagree. It's NOT the media's fault. I'm sick of this conversation. If the family wasn't everywhere, 24/7, destroying the guy's image the media wouldn't be doing so either. They report what they are fed, therefore you should be aiming such anger at the ones who feed. To blame MJ's tarnished reputation on the media is an easy and false way of portraying things.

Example: MJ's family members have called him a junkie more times than Jermaine and Joe have had sex with prostitutes. So, how, exactly, can you blame the media whenever they call him one? They report what they are fed. They report according to the feedback they received. If the family wasn't everywhere doing such thing the media wouldn't be doing it either.

This "the media is mean" is starting to get on my nerves. They are mean if their feeders are as well. They are good if their feeders are good. Example: Elvis P. started getting good press after his camp (in which his family is included) started feeding the media with positive stories about him. MJ started getting called "a junkie, selfish, demented, liar and in denial" after his camp (family members) started feeding the media with such big a bullshit. It's NOT the media's fault.

Besides, there will be no wash. The autopsy is here, for everybody to see, and, yet, you have his own mother contradicting it. Only a gullible person would believe the "trial will be a wash".

I am on the Taj, TJ, Taryll, and Jackie's side about the questionable tracks that are supposedly on Michael. Breaking News and Monster don't sound like Michael AT ALL

Jackie is HOTTTTT!

[Edited 11/9/10 13:48pm]

The person who leaked Monster gave a fan some snippets. It was posted on MJJC. We really don't know which songs are gonna be on the album. But if the songs "Monster", "Carry On", and "All I Need" are included, they're fake just as "Breaking News". Much Too Soon is Mike though.

Well then again these are snippets who knows what they did throughout the whole song of Much Too Soon. But from what is heard so far.. it's Mike.

[Edited 11/9/10 13:55pm]

PYTDee said:

The person who leaked Monster gave a fan some snippets. It was posted on MJJC. We really don't know which songs are gonna be on the album. But if the songs "Monster", "Carry On", and "All I Need" are included, they're fake just as "Breaking News". Much Too Soon is Mike though.

Much Too Soon is definitely real.

So far, all the supposed-Cascio tracks sound fake. Alll I Need sounds the closest to something MJ would record, but the vocals aren't his.

Superstition said:

PYTDee said:

The person who leaked Monster gave a fan some snippets. It was posted on MJJC. We really don't know which songs are gonna be on the album. But if the songs "Monster", "Carry On", and "All I Need" are included, they're fake just as "Breaking News". Much Too Soon is Mike though.

Much Too Soon is definitely real.

So far, all the supposed-Cascio tracks sound fake. Alll I Need sounds the closest to something MJ would record, but the vocals aren't his.

Isn't "Much Too Soon" just the "Gone Too Soon" demo?

Vanilli said:

Superstition said:

Much Too Soon is definitely real.

So far, all the supposed-Cascio tracks sound fake. Alll I Need sounds the closest to something MJ would record, but the vocals aren't his.

Isn't "Much Too Soon" just the "Gone Too Soon" demo?

The title Much too soon is described on many places including wikipedia as early version of Gone too soon and was said to be written around 1981/1982 time, not heard it yet tho, anyone know where the snippets are? msg me

The O'Jays said it best, money can make you do things, bad things.

Vanilli said:

"Breaking News" is more a less a cheap/con job/version of "Xscape" - why

not give "Xscape" to Teddy and let him "polish" it up? At least start with a voice that

is entirely Michael's and go from there. I mean the message of the songs

are pretty close....Just sayin

[Edited 11/9/10 11:12am]

For me Xscape was a weak song back when it leaked. And it still sounds weak now. I hope it's not on the album.

Vanilli said:

Superstition said:

Much Too Soon is definitely real.

So far, all the supposed-Cascio tracks sound fake. Alll I Need sounds the closest to something MJ would record, but the vocals aren't his.

Isn't "Much Too Soon" just the "Gone Too Soon" demo?

Nope. This is a different track entirely.

Superstition said:

PYTDee said:

The person who leaked Monster gave a fan some snippets. It was posted on MJJC. We really don't know which songs are gonna be on the album. But if the songs "Monster", "Carry On", and "All I Need" are included, they're fake just as "Breaking News". Much Too Soon is Mike though.

Much Too Soon is definitely real.

So far, all the supposed-Cascio tracks sound fake. Alll I Need sounds the closest to something MJ would record, but the vocals aren't his.

Wait....what?

Are ya'll holding out on me?!

I have the leaked clips also. "Much Too Soon" is great....it has the true MJ magic.

Nice to hear cleaner quality versions of "Blue Gangsta" and "LNFSG" also.

As for the other Cascio/Malachi bullshit songs....grrrrrrrrrrrr!

bboy87 said:

Superstition said:

Much Too Soon is definitely real.

So far, all the supposed-Cascio tracks sound fake. Alll I Need sounds the closest to something MJ would record, but the vocals aren't his.

Wait....what?

Are ya'll holding out on me?!

WaterInYourBath said:

RipTheJacker said:

Even J.M. Barrie awoken momentarily from neverland to hear the latest goings-on of Michael Jackson; he went back to sleep shortly thereafter

[img:$uid]http://www.gifs.../img:$uid] GIFSoup

I love that movie, lol.

I appreciate all of your Johnny Depp gifs.

why thankya.

Plus I can't trust that family. MOL does have a good point, they do go on the media and print these stories: "oh we stage interventions" or "oh Michael isolated his kids". Well with HIS FAME, how could he be sure his kids wouldn't be looked on with a magnifying glass? This is the same man who Margaret Maldonado said took care of his nephews and nieces' homework assignments, who fed them when they were babies, who took care of them when they were sick, who helped his nieces and nephews go to college or, in the case of 3T, helped to give them musical contracts. The same man who his children said was the best father they ever known, the same man who according to Paris cooked the best French toast and they're with several folks who had claimed Michael was controlled by drugs, by "controlling managers", by anybody that they didn't like and trust and needless to say they wouldn't have done any better under their care. It's silly to suggest they can't be trusted. And to be honest I didn't need his family to tell me when I hear something fake. I can't even trust people who are now claiming they have his best interest like the "Cascios" and Teddy Riley. And definitely not Sony.

Militant said:

I have the leaked clips also. "Much Too Soon" is great....it has the true MJ magic.

Nice to hear cleaner quality versions of "Blue Gangsta" and "LNFSG" also.

As for the other Cascio/Malachi bullshit songs....grrrrrrrrrrrr!

OrgNote them NOW!

bboy87 said:

Superstition said:

Much Too Soon is definitely real.

So far, all the supposed-Cascio tracks sound fake. Alll I Need sounds the closest to something MJ would record, but the vocals aren't his.

Wait....what?

Are ya'll holding out on me?!

You bitches...

SHOW US PLEASE!!!!!

SherryJackson said:

Explain to me this....*massages temples*

I may be wrong - and will admit it if I am - but after listening to this clean a capella I am more inclined to say this is MJ.

As I stated from first listening to the songs MJ is there but his vocals are augmented and embelished with other's on backing vocals - you can clearly hear it is someone else on the backing vocals on key accent words like "Jackson".

I think we are all so use to Michael recording his layered harmonious backing vocals on his albums, and to hear other people singing backing vocals is throwing things up for us.

You have to think that with these recordings if there are gaps they will try to fill them to create a full song. That means getting in backing vocalists to flesh it out (like they did with This Is It using the Jacksons). IT's no different to what hundred's of other artists do who use backing vocalists to support the leads.

Hopefully soon credits for the track will be released and a lot of the questioning will be answered.

Feels like everyone has a "source" and they're all saying conflicting things, lol.

Just give me Another Day already, lol.

I think you're wrong, Swa.

Swa said:

SherryJackson said:

Explain to me this....*massages temples*

I may be wrong - and will admit it if I am - but after listening to this clean a capella I am more inclined to say this is MJ.

As I stated from first listening to the songs MJ is there but his vocals are augmented and embelished with other's on backing vocals - you can clearly hear it is someone else on the backing vocals on key accent words like "Jackson".

I think we are all so use to Michael recording his layered harmonious backing vocals on his albums, and to hear other people singing backing vocals is throwing things up for us.

You have to think that with these recordings if there are gaps they will try to fill them to create a full song. That means getting in backing vocalists to flesh it out (like they did with This Is It using the Jacksons). IT's no different to what hundred's of other artists do who use backing vocalists to support the leads.

Hopefully soon credits for the track will be released and a lot of the questioning will be answered.

Feels like everyone has a "source" and they're all saying conflicting things, lol.

Just give me Another Day already, lol.

Have you heard the snippet of "monster"? Same fake vocals, even worse than Breaking News.

The thing is, about 6 snippets leaked, and the tracks believed to be Cascio tracks are the ones fans, once again, immediately picked out as fake.

Don't you think its funny that so many fans are having the same immediate reactions to the same songs supposedly recorded at someone's house?

I sent y'all the snippets who orgnoted me.

but more importantly....we have PROOF of the Sony/Malachi connection.

The song Jason is singing here:

http://v.youku.com/v_show...5OTk2.html

Is the same song as "All I Need" that is part of the album snippets!!!! Caught out!!!!

See, MOL, I was giving you props but you had to say that "don't let your Jackson family colored heart deceive your mind cause I ain't taking no BS." bullshit

REALLY?!

I wasn't insulting you. I was fuckin' stating that we have different views on things, some similar, some different, but really? you had to say some bullshit like that?

Let's be clear, I'm neither one of those "Michael was devine being" or "The Jacksons are good, Michael's bad" muthafuckas out here, okay?

I said it'll be a wash is because I'm being optimistic. So many people out here are saying Murray is gonna get off or that Michael killed himself and I believe justice WILL be brought and Michael's legacy will stand and all that other bull will lay to the wayside

My ass ain't gulliable, if I was, I'd be one of these people saying "They tried to save him, he was just in denial" or "That really is Michael on that song"

MOL said:

bboy87 said:

Bboy, there is where we disagree. It's NOT the media's fault. I'm sick of this conversation. If the family wasn't everywhere, 24/7, destroying the guy's image the media wouldn't be doing so either. They report what they are fed, therefore you should be aiming such anger at the ones who feed. To blame MJ's tarnished reputation on the media is an easy and false way of portraying things.

Example: MJ's family members have called him a junkie more times than Jermaine and Joe have had sex with prostitutes. So, how, exactly, can you blame the media whenever they call him one? They report what they are fed. They report according to the feedback they received. If the family wasn't everywhere doing such thing the media wouldn't be doing it either.

This "the media is mean" is starting to get on my nerves. They are mean if their feeders are as well. They are good if their feeders are good. Example: Elvis P. started getting good press after his camp (in which his family is included) started feeding the media with positive stories about him. MJ started getting called "a junkie, selfish, demented, liar and in denial" after his camp (family members) started feeding the media with such big a bullshit. It's NOT the media's fault.

Besides, there will be no wash. The autopsy is here, for everybody to see, and, yet, you have his own mother contradicting it. Only a gullible person would believe the "trial will be a wash".

I am on the Taj, TJ, Taryll, and Jackie's side about the questionable tracks that are supposedly on Michael. Breaking News and Monster don't sound like Michael AT ALL

Jackie is HOTTTTT!

[Edited 11/9/10 13:48pm]

This shit is confusing!

[Edited 11/9/10 14:42pm]

Militant said:

I sent y'all the snippets who orgnoted me.

but more importantly....we have PROOF of the Sony/Malachi connection.

The song Jason is singing here:

http://v.youku.com/v_show...5OTk2.html

Is the same song as "All I Need" that is part of the album snippets!!!! Caught out!!!!

Good work Militant

Timmy84 said:

I think you're wrong, Swa.

Happy to be proven so Timmy.

Will admit it here first.