Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Stone Temple Pilots were better bands than Nirvana.

uPtoWnNY said:

Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Stone Temple Pilots were better bands than Nirvana.

You know what, I sort of agree with you on this.

bboy87 said:

Ricky Bell is the best vocalist of the original members of New Edition

Craig David is underrated

Slave needed Steve Arrington

Aside from Stevie, Prince, and a select few, the One Man Band image is overrated

John Legend's music is boring

Lionel Richie needs to stop being a bitch and reunite with The Commodores (hurry up, Lionel! don't make me get Brenda on that ass!)

Will.i.Am is talented and Fergie needs to kiss his right testicle every day for making her a star

I agree with these!!!

PlayboyOriginal said:

Michael Jackson, Jackson 5 and Janet Jackson are HIGHLY overrated

Madonna, Britney Spears & Lady Gaga are garbage

The 80's influenced the 2000's and both decades put out a lot of crappy music

James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, Sly Stone etc deserve just as much credit as Michael Jackson

Sade is not only an emotive interpreter but also an amazing poet

Chaka Khan is the Voice of Life... and yes, I stole that from Prince

Stevie Wonder owned the 70's like Prince owned the 80's

There aren't alot of great rock vocalists (most really suck) but alot of weird yet interesting vocal styles and phrasing that have influenced everyone

The art of gospel is lost.... everybody think they can sing it and people accept it even when most of them sound like shit. I'm not big on southern baptist gospel but I do like the contemporary gospel of the late 80's - 2000's.

Whitney Houston > Mariah Carey

John Legend needs better material and more success

Rahsaan Patterson is probably the best male vocalist of this time

I agree! The 80s influence on the 00s was horrible actually, . Leave the 80s alone people, damn.

bboy87 said:

Ricky Bell is the best vocalist of the original members of New Edition

Craig David is underrated

Slave needed Steve Arrington

Aside from Stevie, Prince, and a select few, the One Man Band image is overrated

John Legend's music is boring

Lionel Richie needs to stop being a bitch and reunite with The Commodores (hurry up, Lionel! don't make me get Brenda on that ass!)

Will.i.Am is talented and Fergie needs to kiss his right testicle every day for making her a star

I will say this about John Legend -his studio albums are very boring. He's not that great of a singer, though he's good. But, he seems to take a different dimension live and is much better, if still not out of this world.

coltrane3 said:

bboy87 said:

Ricky Bell is the best vocalist of the original members of New Edition

Craig David is underrated

Slave needed Steve Arrington

Aside from Stevie, Prince, and a select few, the One Man Band image is overrated

John Legend's music is boring

Lionel Richie needs to stop being a bitch and reunite with The Commodores (hurry up, Lionel! don't make me get Brenda on that ass!)

Will.i.Am is talented and Fergie needs to kiss his right testicle every day for making her a star

I will say this about John Legend -his studio albums are very boring. He's not that great of a singer, though he's good. But, he seems to take a different dimension live and is much better, if still not out of this world.

Some of his songs are okay, but him singing live, IMO, sounds terrible.

bboy87 said:

Ricky Bell is the best vocalist of the original members of New Edition

(oh dear! )

Craig David is underrated

Slave needed Steve Arrington

(They did! Come on that "Rebirth" album was worse than EWF's "Heritage"! )

Aside from Stevie, Prince, and a select few, the One Man Band image is overrated

(I'm gonna come to your house and U!!!)

John Legend's music is boring

Lionel Richie needs to stop being a bitch and reunite with The Commodores (hurry up, Lionel! don't make me get Brenda on that ass!)

Will.i.Am is talented and Fergie needs to kiss his right testicle every day for making her a star

(I TOTALLY agree with the last three!)

'dre

missfee said:

Smokey Robinson is a greedy crook and Berry Gordy's bitch. (Oh yeah)

Lionel Richie is a sell-out. (No shit I don't think that's unpopular)

Kirk Franklin can't sing. (That one's not so unpopular )

Chris Brown's career is about to resurrect. Watch out h8ters!!!!! (It can happen, it wouldn't surprise me but he's gotta get his mind right, like stay away from Young Money!)

[Edited 7/16/10 5:32am]

The 80s was GREAT musically!!! It RULED!!!

It get's trashed because it has become synonymous with throw-away-pop, trashy music videos. style over substance, catering to the masses, AOR music etc.

But, SO much more was going on.

It was the heyday of true indie/alternative rock, before that genre label become co-opted and then sold to the masses. The Replacements, Husker Du, Black Flag, the Minutemen, New Order, the Smiths, Siouxie and the Banshees, Sonic Youth, Fugzai, The Violent Femmes, My Bloody Valentine.

Bands like U2, REM, the Cure, who would later go on to big cross-over, major-lable success, were at their creative peak.

And, this is just touching the tip of the iceberg - with the list above comprising some of the most obvious artists.

The great labels - SST, Dischord, Twin Tone, Touch and Go, Merge, Matador. Small companies putting out great music and directly engaging their fans.

And, that's just part of the "rock" aspect of the 80s.

ALSO, it was Prince at his peak (for many). We're talking Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain, Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign O' the Times, Lovesexy (and the sessions which spawned the Black Album and Crystal Ball).

Now add to that everything related - all of the Mpls Sound bands - The Time, Sheila E, Vanity/Apollonia Six, Mazerati, etc.

Let's not forget R&B/Funk/Soul -- Rick James, Luther, Anita Baker, Patti Labelle, DeBarge, early Whitney Houston, Kool & The Gang, The S.O.S. band, Angela Winbush, Sade's first albums, Alexander O'Neal, Cherelle. And, this is a disastrously incomplete list. There's not enough time. There were many more great black artists and groups who released outstanding material in the 80s.

AND, it was when rap/hip-hop really started to gain momentum, when the genre was still "pure", divorced from the bloated, formulaic, mess that it often is today (though there are still great artists).

It was also the dawn of classic house music, and if you're a house-head you can appreciate all of the vital, brilliant house tracks that came from the 80s. Ron Hardy, Marshall Jefferson, Lil Louis, Frankie Knuckles, to name a very few out of Chicago. The Trax and Ubiquity labels. Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Suanderson out of Detroit.

Finally, even the pop music had it's high points. Pop gets universally trashed as not being "real" music, but there is a certain art to creating great pop music. And, I'd say the 80s, despite all the crap pop music, also gave rise to some of the best pop music made.

And, still, I could go on about more artists, more genres.

The 80s were musically fantastic!!!

[Edited 7/16/10 12:06pm]

Arcade Fire bore me to death.

Debut and Post are the only good albums from Björk, the rest is boring.

All these new bands trying to sound like, and finally coping, all that good music from the 80's - you all are boring.

.

coltrane3 said:

The 80s was GREAT musically!!! It RULED!!!

It get's trashed because it has become synonymous with throw-away-pop, trashy music videos. style over substance, catering to the masses, AOR music etc.

But, SO much more was going on.

It was the heyday of true indie/alternative rock, before that genre label become co-opted and then sold to the masses. The Replacements, Husker Du, Black Flag, the Minutemen, New Order, the Smiths, Siouxie and the Banshees, Sonic Youth, Fugzai, The Violent Femmes, My Bloody Valentine.

Bands like U2, REM, the Cure, who would later go on to big cross-over, major-lable success, were at their creative peak.

And, this is just touching the tip of the iceberg - with the list above comprising some of the most obvious artists.

The great labels - SST, Dischord, Twin Tone, Touch and Go, Merge, Matador. Small companies putting out great music and directly engaging their fans.

And, that's just part of the "rock" aspect of the 80s.

ALSO, it was Prince at his peak (for many). We're talking Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain, Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign O' the Times, Lovesexy (and the sessions which spawned the Black Album and Crystal Ball).

Now add to that everything related - all of the Mpls Sound bands - The Time, Sheila E, Vanity/Apollonia Six, Mazerati, etc.

Let's not forget R&B/Funk/Soul -- Rick James, Luther, Anita Baker, Patti Labelle, DeBarge, early Whitney Houston, Kool & The Gang, The S.O.S. band, Angela Winbush, Sade's first albums, Alexander O'Neal, Cherelle. And, this is a disastrously incomplete list. There's not enough time. There were many more great black artists and groups who released outstanding material in the 80s.

AND, it was when rap/hip-hop really started to gain momentum, when the genre was still "pure", divorced from the bloated, formulaic, mess that it often is today (though there are still great artists).

It was also the dawn of classic house music, and if you're a house-head you can appreciate all of the vital, brilliant house tracks that came from the 80s. Ron Hardy, Marshall Jefferson, Lil Louis, Frankie Knuckles, to name a very few out of Chicago. The Trax and Ubiquity labels. Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Suanderson out of Detroit.

Finally, even the pop music had it's high points. Pop gets universally trashed as not being "real" music, but there is a certain art to creating great pop music. And, I'd say the 80s, despite all the crap pop music, also gave rise to some of the best pop music made.

And, still, I could go on about more artists, more genres.

The 80s were musically fantastic!!!

[Edited 7/16/10 12:06pm]

WRONG THREAD DUDE!!!! THIS IS ABOUT UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!!!

NastradumasKid said:

coltrane3 said:

The 80s was GREAT musically!!! It RULED!!!

It get's trashed because it has become synonymous with throw-away-pop, trashy music videos. style over substance, catering to the masses, AOR music etc.

But, SO much more was going on.

It was the heyday of true indie/alternative rock, before that genre label become co-opted and then sold to the masses. The Replacements, Husker Du, Black Flag, the Minutemen, New Order, the Smiths, Siouxie and the Banshees, Sonic Youth, Fugzai, The Violent Femmes, My Bloody Valentine.

Bands like U2, REM, the Cure, who would later go on to big cross-over, major-lable success, were at their creative peak.

And, this is just touching the tip of the iceberg - with the list above comprising some of the most obvious artists.

The great labels - SST, Dischord, Twin Tone, Touch and Go, Merge, Matador. Small companies putting out great music and directly engaging their fans.

And, that's just part of the "rock" aspect of the 80s.

ALSO, it was Prince at his peak (for many). We're talking Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain, Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign O' the Times, Lovesexy (and the sessions which spawned the Black Album and Crystal Ball).

Now add to that everything related - all of the Mpls Sound bands - The Time, Sheila E, Vanity/Apollonia Six, Mazerati, etc.

Let's not forget R&B/Funk/Soul -- Rick James, Luther, Anita Baker, Patti Labelle, DeBarge, early Whitney Houston, Kool & The Gang, The S.O.S. band, Angela Winbush, Sade's first albums, Alexander O'Neal, Cherelle. And, this is a disastrously incomplete list. There's not enough time. There were many more great black artists and groups who released outstanding material in the 80s.

AND, it was when rap/hip-hop really started to gain momentum, when the genre was still "pure", divorced from the bloated, formulaic, mess that it often is today (though there are still great artists).

It was also the dawn of classic house music, and if you're a house-head you can appreciate all of the vital, brilliant house tracks that came from the 80s. Ron Hardy, Marshall Jefferson, Lil Louis, Frankie Knuckles, to name a very few out of Chicago. The Trax and Ubiquity labels. Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Suanderson out of Detroit.

Finally, even the pop music had it's high points. Pop gets universally trashed as not being "real" music, but there is a certain art to creating great pop music. And, I'd say the 80s, despite all the crap pop music, also gave rise to some of the best pop music made.

And, still, I could go on about more artists, more genres.

The 80s were musically fantastic!!!

[Edited 7/16/10 12:06pm]

WRONG THREAD DUDE!!!! THIS IS ABOUT UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!!!

Most of the opinions you posted are popular tho

NastradumasKid said:

coltrane3 said:

The 80s was GREAT musically!!! It RULED!!!

It get's trashed because it has become synonymous with throw-away-pop, trashy music videos. style over substance, catering to the masses, AOR music etc.

But, SO much more was going on.

It was the heyday of true indie/alternative rock, before that genre label become co-opted and then sold to the masses. The Replacements, Husker Du, Black Flag, the Minutemen, New Order, the Smiths, Siouxie and the Banshees, Sonic Youth, Fugzai, The Violent Femmes, My Bloody Valentine.

Bands like U2, REM, the Cure, who would later go on to big cross-over, major-lable success, were at their creative peak.

And, this is just touching the tip of the iceberg - with the list above comprising some of the most obvious artists.

The great labels - SST, Dischord, Twin Tone, Touch and Go, Merge, Matador. Small companies putting out great music and directly engaging their fans.

And, that's just part of the "rock" aspect of the 80s.

ALSO, it was Prince at his peak (for many). We're talking Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain, Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign O' the Times, Lovesexy (and the sessions which spawned the Black Album and Crystal Ball).

Now add to that everything related - all of the Mpls Sound bands - The Time, Sheila E, Vanity/Apollonia Six, Mazerati, etc.

Let's not forget R&B/Funk/Soul -- Rick James, Luther, Anita Baker, Patti Labelle, DeBarge, early Whitney Houston, Kool & The Gang, The S.O.S. band, Angela Winbush, Sade's first albums, Alexander O'Neal, Cherelle. And, this is a disastrously incomplete list. There's not enough time. There were many more great black artists and groups who released outstanding material in the 80s.

AND, it was when rap/hip-hop really started to gain momentum, when the genre was still "pure", divorced from the bloated, formulaic, mess that it often is today (though there are still great artists).

It was also the dawn of classic house music, and if you're a house-head you can appreciate all of the vital, brilliant house tracks that came from the 80s. Ron Hardy, Marshall Jefferson, Lil Louis, Frankie Knuckles, to name a very few out of Chicago. The Trax and Ubiquity labels. Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Suanderson out of Detroit.

Finally, even the pop music had it's high points. Pop gets universally trashed as not being "real" music, but there is a certain art to creating great pop music. And, I'd say the 80s, despite all the crap pop music, also gave rise to some of the best pop music made.

And, still, I could go on about more artists, more genres.

The 80s were musically fantastic!!!

[Edited 7/16/10 12:06pm]

WRONG THREAD DUDE!!!! THIS IS ABOUT UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!!!

Most of the opinions you posted are popular tho

Most of the "unpopular opinions" ARE popular.

The only good thing about 90s music was Hip-Hop, R&B, and Pop, that's it really.

The beef between East Coast and West Coast was lame.

Carl Thomas could have really been big, but where is he now?

G-Unit was one of the worst Hip-Hop groups ever.

Jeffrey Osborne was better off with LTD.

Timmy84 said:

Most of the "unpopular opinions" ARE popular.

SInce when?

seeingvoices12 said:

NastradumasKid said:

WRONG THREAD DUDE!!!! THIS IS ABOUT UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!!!

Most of the opinions you posted are popular tho

Double post dude.

NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:

Most of the "unpopular opinions" ARE popular.

SInce when?

Since you started it.

Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:

SInce when?

Since you started it.

I thought we were pals!!!

NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:

Most of the "unpopular opinions" ARE popular.

SInce when?

All of it ..

Re-name the thread the " most popular" opinions

NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:

Since you started it.

I thought we were pals!!!

We are. But I gots to keep it real.

seeingvoices12 said:

NastradumasKid said:

SInce when?

All of it ..

Re-name the thread the " most popular" opinions

No. But in all seriousness, please state your unpopular opinion and don't get my name involved this time.

NastradumasKid said:

coltrane3 said:

The 80s was GREAT musically!!! It RULED!!!

It get's trashed because it has become synonymous with throw-away-pop, trashy music videos. style over substance, catering to the masses, AOR music etc.

But, SO much more was going on.

It was the heyday of true indie/alternative rock, before that genre label become co-opted and then sold to the masses. The Replacements, Husker Du, Black Flag, the Minutemen, New Order, the Smiths, Siouxie and the Banshees, Sonic Youth, Fugzai, The Violent Femmes, My Bloody Valentine.

Bands like U2, REM, the Cure, who would later go on to big cross-over, major-lable success, were at their creative peak.

And, this is just touching the tip of the iceberg - with the list above comprising some of the most obvious artists.

The great labels - SST, Dischord, Twin Tone, Touch and Go, Merge, Matador. Small companies putting out great music and directly engaging their fans.

And, that's just part of the "rock" aspect of the 80s.

ALSO, it was Prince at his peak (for many). We're talking Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain, Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign O' the Times, Lovesexy (and the sessions which spawned the Black Album and Crystal Ball).

Now add to that everything related - all of the Mpls Sound bands - The Time, Sheila E, Vanity/Apollonia Six, Mazerati, etc.

Let's not forget R&B/Funk/Soul -- Rick James, Luther, Anita Baker, Patti Labelle, DeBarge, early Whitney Houston, Kool & The Gang, The S.O.S. band, Angela Winbush, Sade's first albums, Alexander O'Neal, Cherelle. And, this is a disastrously incomplete list. There's not enough time. There were many more great black artists and groups who released outstanding material in the 80s.

AND, it was when rap/hip-hop really started to gain momentum, when the genre was still "pure", divorced from the bloated, formulaic, mess that it often is today (though there are still great artists).

It was also the dawn of classic house music, and if you're a house-head you can appreciate all of the vital, brilliant house tracks that came from the 80s. Ron Hardy, Marshall Jefferson, Lil Louis, Frankie Knuckles, to name a very few out of Chicago. The Trax and Ubiquity labels. Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Suanderson out of Detroit.

Finally, even the pop music had it's high points. Pop gets universally trashed as not being "real" music, but there is a certain art to creating great pop music. And, I'd say the 80s, despite all the crap pop music, also gave rise to some of the best pop music made.

And, still, I could go on about more artists, more genres.

The 80s were musically fantastic!!!

[Edited 7/16/10 12:06pm]

WRONG THREAD DUDE!!!! THIS IS ABOUT UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!!!

Well, the "unpopular" opinion that I'm positing is that "The 80s were great musically." I guess maybe that's not such an unpoplar opinion among the musically-knowledgable people who frequent these board.

But, I was thinking more generally. And, among the general population, I see lots of quick, shallow, unthinking references to how the 80s sucked, due to the aforementioned fact that the 80s have become, among people who don't do much independent thinking, and among don't-know-what-they're talking-about music "journalists," synonymous with a very small part of what was actually going on.

That's all. So yeah, I didn't realize that we were aiming for "unpopular opinions among just the people who post here." Didn't mean to screw up the thread.

Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:

I thought we were pals!!!

We are. But I gots to keep it real.

Fine!

Lady Gaga is a horrible singer.

Samuel L. Jackson is not a great actor.

And Denzel is so not fine. Blair Underwood is better looking than him.

coltrane3 said:

NastradumasKid said:

WRONG THREAD DUDE!!!! THIS IS ABOUT UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!!!

Well, the "unpopular" opinion that I'm positing is that "The 80s were great musically." I guess maybe that's not such an unpoplar opinion among the musically-knowledgable people who frequent these board.

But, I was thinking more generally. And, among the general population, I see lots of quick, shallow, unthinking references to how the 80s sucked, due to the aforementioned fact that the 80s have become, among people who don't do much independent thinking, and among don't-know-what-they're talking-about music "journalists," synonymous with a very small part of what was actually going on.

That's all. So yeah, I didn't realize that we were aiming for "unpopular opinions among just the people who post here." Didn't mean to screw up the thread.

It's okay, but me personally, the 80s music is way better than music output of the 90s.

coltrane3 said:

NastradumasKid said:

WRONG THREAD DUDE!!!! THIS IS ABOUT UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!!!

Well, the "unpopular" opinion that I'm positing is that "The 80s were great musically." I guess maybe that's not such an unpoplar opinion among the musically-knowledgable people who frequent these board.

But, I was thinking more generally. And, among the general population, I see lots of quick, shallow, unthinking references to how the 80s sucked, due to the aforementioned fact that the 80s have become, among people who don't do much independent thinking, and among don't-know-what-they're talking-about music "journalists," synonymous with a very small part of what was actually going on.

That's all. So yeah, I didn't realize that we were aiming for "unpopular opinions among just the people who post here." Didn't mean to screw up the thread.

I think most here prefer the funk of the early '80s here but I guess you mean '80s music in general, if so I can see why you would say that so yeah it's unpopular here...in a way.

NastradumasKid said:

Jay-z was/is just as much as a Biggie dick rider as Diddy. (People knew that since '97)

Confessions was not a good album. (I think the majority of folks in and out the ORG would agree with this rather than disagree)

Nastradamus was not as bad as people make it seem like.

Nas's "N***er" > Hip Hop is Dead

It Takes Two is such a lame song, same goes for Rapper's Delight. (Now this is REALLY unpopular )

Phife Dog was lyrically better than Q-tip, but Q-tip's voice was/is more appealing to listen to at times. (A Tribe Called Quest were better together)

Beats, Rhymes, and Life is a much stronger and more mature album than Midnight Mauraders.

Juelz Santana is a better rapper than Cam'ron. (Don't mean a thing they're both wack...)

The Neptunes have better beats than Timbaland. (No shit Sherlock )

J Dilla was/is the best producer in Hip Hop music. (Again no shit )

Common, sometimes, can be more lyrically complexed than Nas. (Tell us something we don't know lol)

NastradumasKid said:

seeingvoices12 said:

All of it ..

Re-name the thread the " most popular" opinions

No. But in all seriousness, please state your unpopular opinion and don't get my name involved this time.

I don't have any at this moment , my fellow orgers posted more than enough.

I'm having fun reading all those popular opinions keep posting.

Oh yeah 100% people will agree Freddie Jackson was a Luther clone.

Timmy84 said:

coltrane3 said:

Well, the "unpopular" opinion that I'm positing is that "The 80s were great musically." I guess maybe that's not such an unpoplar opinion among the musically-knowledgable people who frequent these board.

But, I was thinking more generally. And, among the general population, I see lots of quick, shallow, unthinking references to how the 80s sucked, due to the aforementioned fact that the 80s have become, among people who don't do much independent thinking, and among don't-know-what-they're talking-about music "journalists," synonymous with a very small part of what was actually going on.

That's all. So yeah, I didn't realize that we were aiming for "unpopular opinions among just the people who post here." Didn't mean to screw up the thread.

I think most here prefer the funk of the early '80s here but I guess you mean '80s music in general, if so I can see why you would say that so yeah it's unpopular here...in a way.

Oh and Timmy, don't forget, many people here seem to not like the 90s music either.