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PrintableArnotts said: Chic35 said: Holy shit! If that is true then he was a walking corpse! According to Gladys Knight he's been sick for a while. I could believe that report, reporters said he was was frail. Deepak Chopra said parts of his body was disfigured due to years of cosmetic surgery. No he did not. He said his body was disfigured from Lupus and vitiligo. And from a result of that obession with plastic surgey began. [Edited 6/28/09 22:09pm] The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines.  | |
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Arnotts said: Chic35 said: Holy shit! If that is true then he was a walking corpse! According to Gladys Knight he's been sick for a while. I could believe that report, reporters said he was was frail. Deepak Chopra said parts of his body was disfigured due to years of cosmetic surgery. No he did not. He said his body was disfigured from Lupus and vitiligo. And from a result of that obession with plastic surgey began.  [Edited 6/28/09 22:08pm] The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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Michael has been in other relationships with women besides Lisa and Debbie.
Halperin wrote this 
This sounds like absolute bullshit if you ask me
n the course of my investigations, I spoke to two of his gay lovers, one a Hollywood waiter, the other an aspiring actor. The waiter had remained friends, perhaps more, with the singer until his death last week. He had served Jackson at a restaurant, Jackson made his interest plain and the two slept together the following night. According to the waiter, Jackson fell in love.
The actor, who has been given solid but uninspiring film parts, saw Jackson in the middle of 2007. He told me they had spent nearly every night together during their affair – an easy claim to make, you might think. But this lover produced corroboration in the form of photographs of the two of them together, and a witness. Other witnesses speak of strings of young men visiting his house at all hours, even in the period of his decline. Some stayed overnight. When Jackson lived in Las Vegas, one of his closest aides told how he would sneak off to a ‘grungy, rat-infested’ motel – often dressed as a woman to disguise his identity – to meet a male construction worker he had fallen in love with. [Edited 6/28/09 22:03pm] [Edited 6/28/09 22:03pm] | |
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Janet on the BET awards
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suga10 said: Halperin wrote this
This sounds like absolute bullshit if you ask me
Michael has been in other relationships with women besides Lisa and Debbie. n the course of my investigations, I spoke to two of his gay lovers, one a Hollywood waiter, the other an aspiring actor. The waiter had remained friends, perhaps more, with the singer until his death last week. He had served Jackson at a restaurant, Jackson made his interest plain and the two slept together the following night. According to the waiter, Jackson fell in love.
The actor, who has been given solid but uninspiring film parts, saw Jackson in the middle of 2007. He told me they had spent nearly every night together during their affair – an easy claim to make, you might think. But this lover produced corroboration in the form of photographs of the two of them together, and a witness. Other witnesses speak of strings of young men visiting his house at all hours, even in the period of his decline. Some stayed overnight. When Jackson lived in Las Vegas, one of his closest aides told how he would sneak off to a ‘grungy, rat-infested’ motel – often dressed as a woman to disguise his identity – to meet a male construction worker he had fallen in love with. [Edited 6/28/09 22:03pm] you know it is. you know that if mj was in love with some guy, he'd be all over the internet by now. | |
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Poor Janet
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suga10 said: Michael has been in other relationships with women besides Lisa and Debbie.
Like who? I'm sorry but he was not in a relatinship with brooke, tatiana or tatum. They have all said this. I still dont think that makes him gay though | |
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TonyVanDam said: CalhounSq said: Maybe I'm silly but I don't understand anyone in the family making a public appearance so soon after his death. I'm troubled by Joe saying Mike would be even larger in death than he was in life
 It just seems like he can't wait to milk the legacy. & seeing him @ the BET awards mentioning a record company?? Uh uhh, this shit ain't right. Can't tell people how to grieve but he's seeming like a blood-sucker to me right about now  Joseph is right. Michael Jackson is THE biggest selling product right now. He definitely BIGGER than Elvis & The Beatles now. But also, 2pac never had it this great after his death. My point wasn't Joe being right or wrong. I think it's fucking weird to be so eager to milk the legacy of your son who's been dead for 3 days...   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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cdcgold said: bboy87 said: 
[Edited 6/28/09 1:51am] i know you guys might think i'm crazy. But i still think those are his biological kids. Its just really weird to me how much prince changed over the years. he looked pretty white when he was little and its like now he has full lips and a wider nose and he looks like young michael ( just my opinion) oh well. Oh god, please don't... I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Biological or not- he's their father and he's a loving one for sure  | |
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hey guys i've been too sad to post lately, greiving like the rest of you.
but I just heard on CNN, that MJ's death is looking more like a murder for insurance on behalf of AEG. It seems that MJ verbally agreed to 10 shows rather than 50, and began to back out of the agreement... since the doctor who was their was hired by AEG... he should've known the exact dosages of demoral that would be safe and that would be lethal... I mean I dunno if I believe it... but disapearing for a day, and hiring a team of lawyers, to talk to the police... isn't innocent looking... if true... I feel really sick... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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mm live album and dvd sound great , but its sad anyway.
and about that autopsy ... why needles in his heart wall , why where there needle injections in his heart? was mj really self destructing ? | |
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CalhounSq said: TonyVanDam said: Joseph is right. Michael Jackson is THE biggest selling product right now. He definitely BIGGER than Elvis & The Beatles now. But also, 2pac never had it this great after his death. My point wasn't Joe being right or wrong. I think it's fucking weird to be so eager to milk the legacy of your son who's been dead for 3 days... Yeah that is sad, his true colors are showing!A stupid man’s report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. | |
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Chic35 said: Arnotts said: No he did not. He said his body was disfigured from Lupus and vitiligo. And from a result of that obession with plastic surgey began.
[Edited 6/28/09 22:08pm] Lupus and vitiligo, we will never know the true, now it really does not matter. Michael is gone and it's water under the bridge! A stupid man’s report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. | |
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Countthedays said: Chic35 said:
[Edited 6/28/09 22:08pm] Lupus and vitiligo, we will never know the true, now it really does not matter. Michael is gone and it's water under the bridge! its true, came out in the autopsy... that was the first thing they mentioned... but who gives a damn anymore... didn't matter before,sure doesnt matter now I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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I hope there is a will,and I hope it states that it all goes to his kids,and the rest of them get jack shit. [Edited 6/28/09 23:33pm] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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someone said Joe was a loving father
someone said something about vitiligo someone said something about AEG murdering MJ someone must be smoking a little too much  | |
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WHAT DO YALL THINK?
THE horrifying state of pop superstar Michael Jackson in his final days can be revealed by The Sun today. Harrowing leaked autopsy details show the singer was a virtual skeleton — barely eating and with only pills in his stomach at the time he died. His hips, thighs and shoulders were riddled with needle wounds — believed to be the result of injections of narcotic painkillers, given three times a day for years. And a mass of surgery scars were thought to be the legacy of at least 13 cosmetic operations. Experts found the distressing evidence of Jacko’s physical decline while investigating his startling death in Los Angeles last week. Tragic ... Michael Jackson's body on way to coroner Splash News The examination showed the 5ft 10in star — once famed for his on-stage athleticism — had: PLUNGED to a “severely emaciated” 8st 1oz. It is understood anorexic Jackson had been eating just one meagre meal a day. Pathologists found his stomach empty aside from partially-dissolved pills he took before the painkiller injection which stopped his heart. Samples were sent for toxicology tests. LOST virtually all his hair. The pop pin-up was wearing a wig when he died and pathologists said little more than “peach fuzz” covered his scalp. A scarred section of skin above his left ear was entirely bald — apparently the result of a 1984 accident when his hair caught fire as he filmed an ad for Pepsi. SUFFERED several broken ribs as frantic rescuers pumped his chest after he collapsed in cardiac arrest. Four injection sites were found above or near to Jacko’s heart. All appeared to result from attempts to pump adrenaline directly into the organ in a failed bit to restart it. Three of the injections had penetrated the heart wall — causing damage — but a fourth missed and hit one of the 50-year-old star’s ribs. The autopsy also found unexplained BRUISING on Jackson’s knees and on the fronts of both shins. And there were CUTS on his back, indicating a recent fall. The King of Pop’s once handsome face bore a network of plastic surgery scars, while the bridge to his nose had vanished and its right side had partially collapsed. As inquiries into the tragedy last night focused on the star’s personal physician Dr Conrad Murray, a source close to the Jackson entourage said: “Michael’s family and fans will be horrified when they realise the appalling state he was in. “He was skin and bone, his hair had fallen out and had been eating nothing but pills when he died. Injection marks all over his body and the disfigurement caused by years of plastic surgery show he’d been in terminal decline for years. “His doctors and the hangers-on stood by as he self-destructed. Somebody is going to have to pay.” Cardiologist Dr Murray was thought to have given Jackson the final injection of painkiller Demerol. He is facing serious questions about his resuscitation attempts, which began when he started CPR as Jacko lay unconscious on a bed. Basic first aid guidance says patients must be face-up on a hard surface before compressions. Advertisement Experts yesterday expressed amazement that a trained cardiologist could have made such an error, potentially wasting vital minutes. Additional damage was believed to have been caused by oxygen masks and tubing inserted during resuscitation attempts. But in an ironic twist, the probe found Jacko was recovering well from skin cancer — with an op to shave cells from his chest a total success. A second autopsy demanded by the Jackson family was carried out at a secret location on Saturday after the first ruled out foul play. Family friend Rev Jesse Jackson said the family were deeply suspicious about what caused his death. Dr Murray was hired just 11 days ago by AEG Live — the firm masterminding Jacko’s 50-date residency at London’s O2 Arena, which was due to start next month. Sources claimed the family were preparing a multi-million-dollar lawsuit against the cardiologist. Detectives were unable to find the doctor at Jackson’s home and his car was taken away for analysis as police sought him for questioning. He surfaced late on Friday and was quizzed over the weekend. The Sun told on Saturday how Jacko had developed stage fright for the first time and was terrified of performing the comeback gigs. Aides claimed the ailing star even believed he would be KILLED if he pulled out on health grounds. We also revealed he was taking a potentially toxic cocktail of drugs. Sources last night said prescriptions for drugs for patients other than Jacko were found at his home. Those patients were due to be quizzed. http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...topsy.html | |
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japanrocks said: someone said Joe was a loving father
someone said something about vitiligo someone said something about AEG murdering MJ someone must be smoking a little too much Oh this is just the beginning. The conspiracy theories are going to be wild. There's already one that states its all a hoax cause on the video with the corpsecopter you see the gurney move and people are saying its MJ still wrapped in a white sheet sitting up. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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lazycrockett said: japanrocks said: someone said Joe was a loving father
someone said something about vitiligo someone said something about AEG murdering MJ someone must be smoking a little too much Oh this is just the beginning. The conspiracy theories are going to be wild. There's already one that states its all a hoax cause on the video with the corpsecopter you see the gurney move and people are saying its MJ still wrapped in a white sheet sitting up. I hope its a conspiracy theory... but its CNN... and now Geraldo's saying it But there are alot of loose ends... I personally think its too far to say murder... But why did the doctor leave? why didn't he ride with the ambulance... why did he hire a team of lawyers... I'm as rational as the next guy... but that doesn't make sense... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: lazycrockett said: Oh this is just the beginning. The conspiracy theories are going to be wild. There's already one that states its all a hoax cause on the video with the corpsecopter you see the gurney move and people are saying its MJ still wrapped in a white sheet sitting up. I hope its a conspiracy theory... but its CNN... and now Geraldo's saying it But there are alot of loose ends... I personally think its too far to say murder... But why did the doctor leave? why didn't he ride with the ambulance... why did he hire a team of lawyers... I'm as rational as the next guy... but that doesn't make sense... From what CNN was reporting earlier was that the doctor didnt go missing, they were just setting up a time for him to meet again with authorities. The ambulance who knows. N in todays world of sue sue sue, you're an idiot if you DON'T get a team of lawyers. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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lazycrockett said: EmbattledWarrior said: I hope its a conspiracy theory... but its CNN... and now Geraldo's saying it But there are alot of loose ends... I personally think its too far to say murder... But why did the doctor leave? why didn't he ride with the ambulance... why did he hire a team of lawyers... I'm as rational as the next guy... but that doesn't make sense... From what CNN was reporting earlier was that the doctor didnt go missing, they were just setting up a time for him to meet again with authorities. The ambulance who knows. N in todays world of sue sue sue, you're an idiot if you DON'T get a team of lawyers. yeah, understandble... but you can always get a lawyer after leaving the hospitable... and now CNN is changing their story you don't try to resuscitate your client, than fly off to go see a lawyer... especially after it might've been you're fault for him going into cardiac arrest especially if it is such a high profile person... you ride in the ambulance and help whomever may need your help with info... he wasn't even on the 911 tape... I don't know... I don't want to believe it, and I won't, but I will suspect... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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eye still cant believe he's gone..... H!PPY CH!K | |
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funkteer said: Michael Jackson needed help and it was up to him to get it. It is very hard for families to help drug addicts who do not wish to be helped. The addict is usually in deep denial. They lie and they alienate their families. They surround themselves with other junkies to feed their addictions, and they often get very angry and defensive, sometimes violent against those that love them and want to help them. I am sad that this happened to MJ, but he contributed to his own death. Yes, he had a hard life but so have others. At some point we must all accept responsibility for our own actions and stop blaming our childhoods, and our mommies and daddies for all our adult issues. That is just a cop out.
I speak from experience because like Janet, I too have a brother that is slowly killing himself with drugs and no matter what we do or say, all we can do is watch as he destroys himself. As I watched the MJ reports with my brother the other night on CNN, I wondered if he saw himself, and at the same time I was terrified to bring up his addiction because he has lashed out against me in the past. This is what it is like to love an addict. It is a life full of heartache,and unless THEY choose to get help, the families have nothing but heartache to look forward to. 
I watched my husband's best friend kill himself with Morphine overdose at the age of 40. I am a nurse. I told him, BEGGED him to stop. I warned him that he was heading down a slippery slope when he talked about switching from Vicodin to Morphine (MS Contin). He would not listen... just kept responding about how bad his back was and he would not get surgery to fix the problem... just kept eating the pills to fix the symptoms. he went to sleep, and his breathing stopped, then his heart stopped. So sad for the loved ones left behind. It is like experiencing a mini loss (death) for years preceding the real one. You try in vain to save the addict and each time you fail, you grieve a little bit more.. because you KNOW what lies ahead.  "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Rogue588 said: It's lookin' like there was something "not right" about his entire life.
Exactly. | |
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Okay, five things:
1. Let's not take anything The Sun writes too seriously. 2. Joe Jackson seems to be interested in proving that his son was "bigger than Elvis and The Beatles", which is something he also said in interviews long before Michael's death. It might be about money, but it's also about the way the Jacksons seem to view certain things. 3. If a person has needed injections directly to the heart he's been in a pretty bad state before. 4. The usual same bullshit about the vitiligo and why does Michael look "completely white" can be answered with, for example, just by reading the Wikipedia entry on him and on the condition itself. There is a point in the development of that disease where patients may choose to get all (or at all most) of their remaining pigmentation removed from their skin, at the cost of not being able to be exposed to sun hardly at all anymore. 5. I think it's pretty obvious that he had been on psyche medication for a very long time. ... anyway, I'm going to play "Everybody" from the Triumph album and continue the tasks of the day. | |
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I found this for people who live in Sydney or near it and want to attend something
Hi everyone, I'd just like to let any Australian fans here know that there is a planned Memorial Gathering for Michael next Saturday (4th of July) outside the Virgin Megastore, in the city of Sydney. We are enlisting the help of the Megastore to play us music and provide loudspeakers, and we are contacting the nearby channel 7 studios for their support too. Please pass this onto any fans in our country, as there has been no public events planned for MJ's memorial as of yet. Thanks! Edit: Please join the facebook page for more info - http://www.facebook.com/e...4965545395 | |
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after speaking to people who knew fans out in LA they were saying over the last couple of weeks the people around Michael changed. Where before they were allowed to talk to him and he would stop for a while in the last couple of weeks the security etc wouldnt let them near him and would almost push him into the car to get him away, and if the fans got close enough to him and told him that he didnt have to do the shows if he didnt want to and the fans wouldnt mind they were physically pushed out the way by security
to be honest i am starting to think maybe this isnt as clear as people think it is, if Michael did back out of the shows AEG etc would lose alot of money, maybe they thought they would be able to drug him till the shows and get him to do them or maybe they did murder him for the insurance money i dunno its all so messed up he shouldnt be gone With Love there is no Death | |
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great video of Michael and Latoya
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