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Last Updated on Sunday, 28 June 2009 15:25 Sunday, 28 June 2009 15:20 A lawyer for Michael Jackson’s personal physician said today that reports that the doctor injected the pop star with a powerful painkiller before his death were “absolutely false.” “There was no Demerol. No OxyContin,” Edward Chernoff, the attorney for Dr. Conrad Murray, told The Times. The lawyer, who was present Saturday for Murray’s three-hour interview with Los Angeles police detectives, said Jackson was already unconscious when the doctor “fortuitously” entered the bedroom of the performer’s Holmby Hills mansion. The 50-year-old entertainer “wasn’t breathing. He checked for a pulse. There was a weak pulse in his femoral artery. He started administering CPR,” said Chernoff, a Houston criminal defense attorney. The lawyer’s claim was consistent with the account of a source close to the investigation who told The Times that the lengthy interview with the doctor turned up “no smoking gun.” Murray had not “furnished or prescribed” Jackson with Demerol, the lawyer said. He described Murray as stunned by Jackson’s death. “He was the one who suggested the autopsy to the family while they were still in the hospital. He didn’t understand why Michael Jackson had died,” he said. Murray, a cardiologist with practices in Nevada and Texas, shuttered his offices in May after Jackson asked him to travel to London for a seven-month concert run. Chernoff said the concert promoter, L.A.-based AEG Live, had agreed to pay the doctor $300,000 and was still owed the money. AEG Live Chief Executive Randy Phillips has described Murray as Jackson’s personal physician of three years. Murray’s attorney, however, said that although the men had known each other since2006, Murray only came on as Jackson’s personal physician last month for the London shows. He said previously Murray had treated Jackson’s children for an infection while the family was living in Las Vegas and the doctor considered the performer “a friend.” On Friday, an LAPD detective told The Times that investigators had no information that Jackson was injected with Demerol or other painkillers. Such claims "are coming from outside the investigation," said Lt. Gregg Strenk, head of the LAPD's Homicide Special Section 1, which is assigned to the Jackson case. http://latimesblogs.latim...-says.html "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Joe Jackson is an asshole. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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lazycrockett said: Joe Jackson is an asshole.
For real! "It's hard 4 me 2 say what's right when all I want to do is wrong..." | |
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lazycrockett said: Joe Jackson is an asshole.
basically. | |
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kremlinshadow said: CalhounSq said: Maybe I'm silly but I don't understand anyone in the family making a public appearance so soon after his death. I'm troubled by Joe saying Mike would be even larger in death than he was in life
 It just seems like he can't wait to milk the legacy. & seeing him @ the BET awards mentioning a record company?? Uh uhh, this shit ain't right. Can't tell people how to grieve but he's seeming like a blood-sucker to me right about now  Father out promoting himself at an event & mother out shopping at Target today - what next .... [Edited 6/28/09 18:13pm] The mother could be shopping for something important. unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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peacenlovealways said: kremlinshadow said: Father out promoting himself at an event & mother out shopping at Target today - what next .... [Edited 6/28/09 18:13pm] The mother could be shopping for something important. She was buying items for his children.  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Katherine was buying toys and sleeping bags. | |
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bboy87 said: LA Times: Lawyer says No Demerol Injection or OxyContin Given to Jackson
Last Updated on Sunday, 28 June 2009 15:25 Sunday, 28 June 2009 15:20 A lawyer for Michael Jackson’s personal physician said today that reports that the doctor injected the pop star with a powerful painkiller before his death were “absolutely false.” “There was no Demerol. No OxyContin,” Edward Chernoff, the attorney for Dr. Conrad Murray, told The Times. The lawyer, who was present Saturday for Murray’s three-hour interview with Los Angeles police detectives, said Jackson was already unconscious when the doctor “fortuitously” entered the bedroom of the performer’s Holmby Hills mansion. The 50-year-old entertainer “wasn’t breathing. He checked for a pulse. There was a weak pulse in his femoral artery. He started administering CPR,” said Chernoff, a Houston criminal defense attorney. The lawyer’s claim was consistent with the account of a source close to the investigation who told The Times that the lengthy interview with the doctor turned up “no smoking gun.” Murray had not “furnished or prescribed” Jackson with Demerol, the lawyer said. He described Murray as stunned by Jackson’s death. “He was the one who suggested the autopsy to the family while they were still in the hospital. He didn’t understand why Michael Jackson had died,” he said. Murray, a cardiologist with practices in Nevada and Texas, shuttered his offices in May after Jackson asked him to travel to London for a seven-month concert run. Chernoff said the concert promoter, L.A.-based AEG Live, had agreed to pay the doctor $300,000 and was still owed the money. AEG Live Chief Executive Randy Phillips has described Murray as Jackson’s personal physician of three years. Murray’s attorney, however, said that although the men had known each other since2006, Murray only came on as Jackson’s personal physician last month for the London shows. He said previously Murray had treated Jackson’s children for an infection while the family was living in Las Vegas and the doctor considered the performer “a friend.” On Friday, an LAPD detective told The Times that investigators had no information that Jackson was injected with Demerol or other painkillers. Such claims "are coming from outside the investigation," said Lt. Gregg Strenk, head of the LAPD's Homicide Special Section 1, which is assigned to the Jackson case. http://latimesblogs.latim...-says.html Then it comes down to my original thought on why he died: he wasn't treating his body well at all. It's speculation but I would not be surprised if his cause was anorexia nervosa. [Edited 6/28/09 18:36pm] | |
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According to TMZ: Jackson had a pulse.
You're supposed to Mouth to Mouth in that case. http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...ith-pulse/ Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyer is now saying that when Murray found Michael Jackson, he had a faint pulse.
Murray's lawyer, Edward Chernoff, says Murray went into Jackson's bedroom and saw that he wasn't breathing. Chernoff told the AP, "He just happened to find him in his bed, and he wasn't breathing. Mr. Jackson was still warm and had a pulse." Chernoff says Murray immediately began administering CPR. Chernoff says Murray did not prescribe or give Jackson Demerol or OxyContin. Chernoff says any drugs Murray did prescribe were given in response to a specific complaint from Jackson. [Edited 6/28/09 18:39pm] | |
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suga10 said: According to TMZ: Jackson had a pulse
http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...ith-pulse/ Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyer is now saying that when Murray found Michael Jackson, he had a faint pulse.
Murray's lawyer, Edward Chernoff, says Murray went into Jackson's bedroom and saw that he wasn't breathing. Chernoff told the AP, "He just happened to find him in his bed, and he wasn't breathing. Mr. Jackson was still warm and had a pulse." Chernoff says Murray immediately began administering CPR. Chernoff says Murray did not prescribe or give Jackson Demerol or OxyContin. Chernoff says any drugs Murray did prescribe were given in response to a specific complaint from Jackson. I wonder if he probably had a blood clot or something, something can trigger a death under odd circumstances. I know I suggested anorexia but it could've also been a blood clot. | |
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WaterInYourBath said: peacenlovealways said: The mother could be shopping for something important. She was buying items for his children. 
Are people going to watch and criticize their every move and determine what they should be doing under the circumstances according to them? That's going to get very tiresome. Life goes on, even for the Jackson family. [Edited 6/28/09 18:41pm] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: LA Times: Lawyer says No Demerol Injection or OxyContin Given to Jackson
Last Updated on Sunday, 28 June 2009 15:25 Sunday, 28 June 2009 15:20 A lawyer for Michael Jackson’s personal physician said today that reports that the doctor injected the pop star with a powerful painkiller before his death were “absolutely false.” “There was no Demerol. No OxyContin,” Edward Chernoff, the attorney for Dr. Conrad Murray, told The Times. The lawyer, who was present Saturday for Murray’s three-hour interview with Los Angeles police detectives, said Jackson was already unconscious when the doctor “fortuitously” entered the bedroom of the performer’s Holmby Hills mansion. The 50-year-old entertainer “wasn’t breathing. He checked for a pulse. There was a weak pulse in his femoral artery. He started administering CPR,” said Chernoff, a Houston criminal defense attorney. The lawyer’s claim was consistent with the account of a source close to the investigation who told The Times that the lengthy interview with the doctor turned up “no smoking gun.” Murray had not “furnished or prescribed” Jackson with Demerol, the lawyer said. He described Murray as stunned by Jackson’s death. “He was the one who suggested the autopsy to the family while they were still in the hospital. He didn’t understand why Michael Jackson had died,” he said. Murray, a cardiologist with practices in Nevada and Texas, shuttered his offices in May after Jackson asked him to travel to London for a seven-month concert run. Chernoff said the concert promoter, L.A.-based AEG Live, had agreed to pay the doctor $300,000 and was still owed the money. AEG Live Chief Executive Randy Phillips has described Murray as Jackson’s personal physician of three years. Murray’s attorney, however, said that although the men had known each other since2006, Murray only came on as Jackson’s personal physician last month for the London shows. He said previously Murray had treated Jackson’s children for an infection while the family was living in Las Vegas and the doctor considered the performer “a friend.” On Friday, an LAPD detective told The Times that investigators had no information that Jackson was injected with Demerol or other painkillers. Such claims "are coming from outside the investigation," said Lt. Gregg Strenk, head of the LAPD's Homicide Special Section 1, which is assigned to the Jackson case. http://latimesblogs.latim...-says.html Then it comes down to my original thought on why he died: he wasn't treating his body well at all. It's speculation but I would not be surprised if his cause was anorexia nervosa. [Edited 6/28/09 18:36pm] like what happened to karen carpenter. or at the other extreme, luther; i think the yo-yo dieting had a lot to do with his eventual stroke and death. | |
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Timmy84 said: suga10 said: I wonder if he probably had a blood clot or something, something can trigger a death under odd circumstances. I know I suggested anorexia but it could've also been a blood clot. They keep changing the story. On CNN the Lawyer was saying Jackson had no pulse at all. Now he's saying Jackson had a pulse. Something's not right [Edited 6/28/09 18:41pm] | |
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kibbles said: Timmy84 said: Then it comes down to my original thought on why he died: he wasn't treating his body well at all. It's speculation but I would not be surprised if his cause was anorexia nervosa. [Edited 6/28/09 18:36pm] like what happened to karen carpenter. or at the other extreme, luther; i think the yo-yo dieting had a lot to do with his eventual stroke and death. Right. He might've had a stroke. Yeah, suga, I don't know what the hell is going on... | |
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Timmy84 said: suga10 said: I wonder if he probably had a blood clot or something, something can trigger a death under odd circumstances. I know I suggested anorexia but it could've also been a blood clot. But you don't do CPR on a bed, which the 911 caller said jackson was on. Any doctor would know that. The story is going to just get more exaggerated each day. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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Timmy84 said: kibbles said: like what happened to karen carpenter. or at the other extreme, luther; i think the yo-yo dieting had a lot to do with his eventual stroke and death. Right. He might've had a stroke. Yeah, suga, I don't know what the hell is going on... I don't like this doctor at all  | |
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lazycrockett said: Timmy84 said: I wonder if he probably had a blood clot or something, something can trigger a death under odd circumstances. I know I suggested anorexia but it could've also been a blood clot. But you don't do CPR on a bed, which the 911 caller said jackson was on. Any doctor would know that. The story is going to just get more exaggerated each day. True. Something surely doesn't seem right... so wait he was found unconscious in his bed but first reports said he was unconscious on the floor... or I must have heard things wrong. [Edited 6/28/09 18:45pm] | |
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I read on TMZ that the Doctors was trying to get the Paramedics to do CPR continuously in the Ambulance, but they were going to say MJ was already dead by the time they got to his house.
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Timmy84 said: lazycrockett said: But you don't do CPR on a bed, which the 911 caller said jackson was on. Any doctor would know that. The story is going to just get more exaggerated each day. True. Something surely doesn't seem right... so wait he was found unconscious in his bed but first reports said he was unconscious on the floor... or I must have heard things wrong.
[Edited 6/28/09 18:45pm] According to the 911 call, the doctor was performing CPR on jackson while on the bed, the first thing the operator says is get the person on the floor. Anyone who has even had minimal CPR training knows this. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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lazycrockett said: Timmy84 said: True. Something surely doesn't seem right... so wait he was found unconscious in his bed but first reports said he was unconscious on the floor... or I must have heard things wrong.
[Edited 6/28/09 18:45pm] According to the 911 call, the doctor was performing CPR on jackson while on the bed, the first thing the operator says is get the person on the floor. Anyone who has even had minimal CPR training knows this. This is the first thing that stood out to me as soon as the 911 call was released. Something is so not right. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Timmy84 said: lazycrockett said: But you don't do CPR on a bed, which the 911 caller said jackson was on. Any doctor would know that. The story is going to just get more exaggerated each day. True. Something surely doesn't seem right... so wait he was found unconscious in his bed but first reports said he was unconscious on the floor... or I must have heard things wrong.
[Edited 6/28/09 18:45pm] I watched the DateLine special about MJ earlier tonight. They discussed how the doctor had one arm behind Michael's back on the bed as hard support during his attempt at resuscitation, since Michael's body was "so fragile" he supposedly didn't want to cause further damage. They also said that Michael had begun taking anti-anxiety and sleep-inducing pills because of the stress of those doggone concerts, but did not receive Demerol or Oxycontin before he stopped breathing. I don't know what to believe.
A very sad piece of information that was told during this show was that Michael requested that the doctor sit next to him when he was sleeping. They didn't indicate how long the doctor would watch him, but just the thought of that tears me up. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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WaterInYourBath said: Timmy84 said: True. Something surely doesn't seem right... so wait he was found unconscious in his bed but first reports said he was unconscious on the floor... or I must have heard things wrong.
[Edited 6/28/09 18:45pm] I watched the DateLine special about MJ earlier tonight. They discussed how the doctor had one arm behind Michael's back on the bed as hard support during his attempt at resuscitation, since Michael's body was "so fragile" he supposedly didn't want to cause further damage. They also said that Michael had begun taking anti-anxiety and sleep-inducing pills because of the stress of those doggone concerts, but did not receive Demerol or Oxycontin before he stopped breathing. I don't know what to believe.
A very sad piece of information that was told during this show was that Michael requested that the doctor sit next to him when he was sleeping. They didn't indicate how long the doctor would watch him, but just the thought of that tears me up. How the hell do you perform one handed CPR? Also if that is possible you'd do more damage by only using your hand as support cause you're putting more pressure on one area while if you have someone totally on a hard service the pressure is evenly distributed. Basically that's how one can lay on a bed of nails. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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lazycrockett said: nakedpianoplayer said: amen!! this is gonna be very, very hard on him Please the only reason the jacksons are upset is because their cash cow is dead. Joe never cared bout the boy he just cared bout the $$$$. The infighting hasn't even started yet. Like I posted earlier the circus hasn't even begun. If MJ didn't have a will what a train wreck this will all become. I hate to even think that way but I'm inclined to agree with you. It's about to get real ugly. It really doesn't even seem real that he's gone. | |
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WaterInYourBath said: Timmy84 said: True. Something surely doesn't seem right... so wait he was found unconscious in his bed but first reports said he was unconscious on the floor... or I must have heard things wrong.
[Edited 6/28/09 18:45pm] I watched the DateLine special about MJ earlier tonight. They discussed how the doctor had one arm behind Michael's back on the bed as hard support during his attempt at resuscitation, since Michael's body was "so fragile" he supposedly didn't want to cause further damage. They also said that Michael had begun taking anti-anxiety and sleep-inducing pills because of the stress of those doggone concerts, but did not receive Demerol or Oxycontin before he stopped breathing. I don't know what to believe.
A very sad piece of information that was told during this show was that Michael requested that the doctor sit next to him when he was sleeping. They didn't indicate how long the doctor would watch him, but just the thought of that tears me up. so maybe that's why he wasn't on the floor either? maybe mj was looking to these shows, from ever other indication he was, but in the back of his mind, he worried. especially since he knew the press was going to take him apart regardless. | |
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CalhounSq said: Maybe I'm silly but I don't understand anyone in the family making a public appearance so soon after his death. I'm troubled by Joe saying Mike would be even larger in death than he was in life
It just seems like he can't wait to milk the legacy. & seeing him @ the BET awards mentioning a record company?? Uh uhh, this shit ain't right. Can't tell people how to grieve but he's seeming like a blood-sucker to me right about now Joseph is right. Michael Jackson is THE biggest selling product right now. He definitely BIGGER than Elvis & The Beatles now. But also, 2pac never had it this great after his death. | |
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[Edited 6/28/09 1:51am] i know you guys might think i'm crazy. But i still think those are his biological kids. Its just really weird to me how much prince changed over the years. he looked pretty white when he was little and its like now he has full lips and a wider nose and he looks like young michael ( just my opinion) oh well. | |
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daingermouz said: lazycrockett said: Please the only reason the jacksons are upset is because their cash cow is dead. Joe never cared bout the boy he just cared bout the $$$$. The infighting hasn't even started yet. Like I posted earlier the circus hasn't even begun. If MJ didn't have a will what a train wreck this will all become. I hate to even think that way but I'm inclined to agree with you. It's about to get real ugly. It really doesn't even seem real that he's gone. hopefully since mcmillan has been working with mj to extricate him from himself - he recently showed up to help prepare his defense against raymone bain who claims mj owes her money but she neglected to mention that mcmillian had her sign a release and any other agreements she made with mj were null and void, like previous ones him giving her access to his various business; are you supposed to do that with your publicist?! - mcmillan had mj make out a will, too. | |
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Looking at MJ's arms in that first pic, they're pretty white. Is the "bleaching" of skin a serious medical possibility or would vitiligo be that even? I thought it was "patchy"... • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
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[quote] CalhounSq said: Maybe I'm silly but I don't understand anyone in the family making a public appearance so soon after his death. I'm troubled by Joe saying Mike would be even larger in death than he was in life [/quote
It just seems like he can't wait to milk the legacy. & seeing him @ the BET awards mentioning a record company?? Uh uhh, this shit ain't right. Can't tell people how to grieve but he's seeming like a blood-sucker to me right about now Michael is the star that Joe always wanted to be himself. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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lazycrockett said: Joe Jackson is an asshole.
Glad I'm not that the only one that thinks this. I just read he went to the BET Awards... I know people some fans think we shouldn't even talk about him and just remember Mike, but since Joe wants to be the fucking center of attention, let it be known. My brother died last year (also very unexpectedly...also heart failure) in a small way to honor him. Frankly, it took a lot just to get us out of the house to buy funeral clothes (only my older sister who came from out of town was prepared). Joe Jackson frankly always wanted to be the star. What a fucking nice way for it to happen! If there's a hell.... BTW, I just realized people are talking about Katherine shopping. Doubt she needed clothes for the occasion but I definately wouldn't gain up on her. She's a bit "off" but I don't think she is heartless. [Edited 6/28/09 19:41pm] | |
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