NMuzakNSoul said:

Yeah it should be very interesting and I can understand the frustration too.

No surprises here. I wonder if he will perform at all.

Graycap23 said:

Invincible. 2001. That doesn't say he's been retired.

Let's see there's that whole lack of promotion thing he ranted about, made a video where his face didn't move, released a couple more videos that he didn't even appear in. He basically sabotaged his own work and people balked at the whole thing, especially him calling Tommy Motolla "the devil".

Then he gets sued in a way-too-long trial by some woman and her son. He wins, and takes off for a probably well-deserved break.

He's been a bit busy to release a new album through recent years. But just because he's NOT released something (even if the trail wasn't an issue), doesn't balk of retirement.

If that were true, the same could have been said about Whitney Houston. Her last studio album was 2003. Her last album of all new material was 2001, as well like Mike. She's rumored to have an album this year, as well, much like MJ has in recent months (before the 02 announcement). Is she retired? Or is she just living her life...like Mike, doing what she wants until she's ready to make music again?

George Michael went six years between Listen Without Prejudice and Older, and five years between a cover album and Patience (2004). No one ever said he was retiring during that time. And even after he said he was retiring from studio records, he still mounted a HUGE massive, ground breaking, technologically advanced tour, and a 3 disk hits set with a slew of new music on it, and double DVD to boot.

I think as Prince fans, we're spoiled with an album every 12 or 15 months. Roughly one a year. Prince went three years between TRC and Musicology. Did people scream retirement then? There were three years between official PRINCE albums Emancipation and Rave. (the sidenotes being a compilation and the third NPG album)..

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Yeah, that's possible I just wished I had seen him in concert many years ago

Empress said:

I almost want to lay odds that he won't even fulfill HALF of those planned shows. Not even close. maybe 10 or 15. 20 if he's got a fresh pair of baggies.

ernestsewell said:

Are u comparing Prince's output 2 Mj's in any way?
9 years and counting for Mj.
2 months and counting 4 Prince.

Timmy84 said:

Timmy, can you really backup that NMuzakNSoul is a fan for years or is he a pretender?

Graycap23 said:

You cut out 90% of my reply. Your comment is a moot point that way. I was making a vast array of examples. And yes, I was comparing outputs by Prince, MJ, Whitney, George Michael, etc.

I wish so too but I was too young. I wish I would been alive to seen his career from the beginning(jackson 5). It just pains me sometimes to see what he's been though...even though he brought a lot of it on his self. I think we forget, especially in america how we put our celebrities on pedestals instead of realizing that they are human just like us and make mistakes.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

I agree.

Dan said:

Huh, what? I didn't do it!

I would be PISSED!!! You know TONS of people are coming from overseas for MJ. Shit I went to London to see Prince. I'd be LIVID right about now if I were one of those fans. They shoulda announced the dates AFTER rehearsing the show.

graecophilos said:

Nice.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Don't speak too soon.

NMuzakNSoul said:

Thanks, haha. I think your sentence was just funny. As if people would have disbelieved you

graecophilos said:

Oh I get what you mean.

ernestsewell said:

Sorry hun, but MJ is decidedly worse than Prince when it comes to this type o' shit. At least you can count on new music and some live performances from P on an almost yearly basis. The execution may not be the best but he gets it done. P's O2 shows went off without a hitch. So, nah, I'ma give the perpetually fucking up title to MJ. I still love him tho.

ecnirp98 said:

Well, the first show is still the first show... just five days later... tickets for the 8th will be valid for the 13th... that said, it still sucks and is annoying!

graecophilos said:

Oh well... she's not beyond that... on the Drowned world tour they had to cancel the first couple of shows in germany (or was it spain?), because they didn't get their shit ready in time!

graecophilos said:

WTF?

SCNDLS said:

I didn't get it at first but he's saying it's pretty obvious I was a fan and didn't need to put that Timmy can back me up. Took me a bit.

I thank the Lord I saw Michael years ago, when he was truely a great artist. First time Madison Square Gardens in the early 80s with his brothers-The Truimph tour. It was brilliant, better even than the Bad tour that I saw some years later in the late 80s.

I wouldn't pay a dollar to see him now, because you are guaranteen to get the mess that is already happening and quite frankly he ain't a patch on his former self, he will be doing more miming than singing.

graecophilos said:

Dude is a FAN. He's been supporting Mike. But like me in a sense he prefers the OTHER Motown legend. Like I prefer Marvin, he prefers Stevie but he is a MJ fan. He got banned from MJJF (or he left) because he didn't like some of the people's attitudes over him about what he said over there. Just because you're a fan don't mean you have to like about everything someone does, lol.

NMuzakNSoul said:

I don't know what that was about either.

whatsgoingon said:

how old are you?

graecophilos said:

Probably older than you. With the Truimph tour was pretty young, but not too young. During the Bad tour I was well into the latter part of my teens.
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NMuzakNSoul said:

Oh, okay, I was finna say . . .

Timmy84 said:

Well summed up Tim. Oh and I left that place.

NMuzakNSoul said:

yeah, thanks Timmy, you saved my day, lol

Agreed but that's with a lot of celebrities, not just mj fans. I've seen SOME madonna fans defend her with everything plus SOME of them act like she is the second coming same with eminem and britney spears. America is too obessed with pop culture...these people are human not perfect stop treating them as such.

graecophilos said:

Y'all welcome.

Thanks for confirming, Nick.

LOL! I knew it
I've been saying this on an MJ board till I got banned


and according to The Jackson's postponed = canceled
I wouldn't be expecting any new dates