Attorney Mark Geragos looks on as singer Chris Brown is arraigned at the Superior Court of Los Angeles County on March 5, 2009 in Los Angeles, California. Chris Brown is being charged with two felonies for assault on the alleged victim "Robyn F.", who is reportedly singer Rihanna, who's real name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty, during an argument on February 8, 2009. | |
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There'll be a discussion on Larry King Live tonight.
I think partly why this garners so much attention aside from their celebrity is because they're so young. For some reason abusive relationships amongst teens and young adults aren't talked about or taken as seriously but this is precisely when when intervention is most crucial. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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728huey said: Once again, people are already convicting Chris Brown and ready to send his ass to jail, but these are just the official charges brought by the L.A. County District Attorney's office. He's still allowed to have his day in court, and until these charges are proven beyond a reasonable doubt or he pleads down, then we should reserve judgment on his guilt or brutishness. Remember that the cops and D.A. offices love to make an example of high-profile cases. If this were just some well-off black dude and his hot up-and-coming model girlfriend and not two of the most popular young pop stars of past few years, he'd be charged with simple battery and be ordered to go to anger management.
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StarCat said: paisleypark4 said: I ask again..where are the Chris Brown defenders on this thread? I didnt know it was THAT BAD! This ordeal went down for a good minute! not sure if you are asking me that... but i assure you that i am in no way defending his ass. i'm saying "if that is true", because i wasn't there as a witness, and relying on media information isn't always best. Stupid quotes from the org: We don't know she is a victim, we just know she got the worst of it in the exchange.
Are you saying she couldn't have attacked HIM?
If she hit him first, she earned a beat down. IF you don't want your a beatdown, keep your hands to yourself! [expletive deleted] I definitely do not view Rihanna as the "obvious" victim in this case yet.....
I will be glad when Aretha and Etta beat her ass down, LOL. Disappear already hoe. I am so tired of this bow-legged heffa always flossing to be apart of everything. When Jay-Z beat that ass one day real good, and i don't mean sexually, I mean like Ike beat Tina and Ted bet Aretha Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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JackieBlue said: There'll be a discussion on Larry King Live tonight.
I think partly why this garners so much attention aside from their celebrity is because they're so young. For some reason abusive relationships amongst teens and young adults aren't talked about or taken as seriously but this is precisely when when intervention is most crucial. and imagine how many women (and men) go through this each day with no one else knowing or even caring. if any good comes of this, it's that it brings forth open discussion and hopefully some revaltions for people. | |
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728huey said: Once again, people are already convicting Chris Brown and ready to send his ass to jail, but these are just the official charges brought by the L.A. County District Attorney's office. He's still allowed to have his day in court, and until these charges are proven beyond a reasonable doubt or he pleads down, then we should reserve judgment on his guilt or brutishness. Remember that the cops and D.A. offices love to make an example of high-profile cases. If this were just some well-off black dude and his hot up-and-coming model girlfriend and not two of the most popular young pop stars of past few years, he'd be charged with simple battery and be ordered to go to anger management.
What are you talkin about foo? He knows what he did and admitted it. You think he has a "fair trial" in this with not ONE scratch on his face? Ya'll kill me with this shit. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: Stupid quotes from the org:
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Vendetta1 said: ToraToraDreams said: Women stay in abusive relation ships all the time out of fear or dependence. Emotions are a bitch man. Doesn't make her stupid. Ex stupid here! There are a million bazillion things that went into why I stayed with my abuser, even after the second, third, fourth, fifth.....time. Fear being the biggest factor. Love was mixed in there. Lack of self respect or true knowledge of myself. I was exactly her age when my abusive relationship started and I know the many reasons why. Most of them, after the fact, are totally senseless. There is no sense when you're in this though. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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728huey said: Once again, people are already convicting Chris Brown and ready to send his ass to jail, but these are just the official charges brought by the L.A. County District Attorney's office. He's still allowed to have his day in court, and until these charges are proven beyond a reasonable doubt or he pleads down, then we should reserve judgment on his guilt or brutishness. Remember that the cops and D.A. offices love to make an example of high-profile cases. If this were just some well-off black dude and his hot up-and-coming model girlfriend and not two of the most popular young pop stars of past few years, he'd be charged with simple battery and be ordered to go to anger management.
FOOL SHUT UP!!!!! | |
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StarCat said: JackieBlue said: There'll be a discussion on Larry King Live tonight.
I think partly why this garners so much attention aside from their celebrity is because they're so young. For some reason abusive relationships amongst teens and young adults aren't talked about or taken as seriously but this is precisely when when intervention is most crucial. and imagine how many women (and men) go through this each day with no one else knowing or even caring. if any good comes of this, it's that it brings forth open discussion and hopefully some revaltions for people. Exactly. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Vendetta1 said: The fuck it don't.
Ex stupid here! There are a million bazillion things that went into why I stayed with my abuser, even after the second, third, fourth, fifth.....time. Fear being the biggest factor. Love was mixed in there. Lack of self respect or true knowledge of myself. I was exactly her age when my abusive relationship started and I know the many reasons why. Most of them, after the fact, are totally senseless. There is no sense when you're in this though. Yeah I understand you whole heartedly! I remember that post you made yo. In mine..what made me stay the most was that I didnt know where I was going to go even though I had many rescources. Living with the person and I didn't know how I was going to get out sooner. Love and sex are two things that are kind of hard to be in control of. Rhianna has no excuse though. She has all the rescources in the world. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Vendetta1 said: The fuck it don't.
Ex stupid here! There are a million bazillion things that went into why I stayed with my abuser, even after the second, third, fourth, fifth.....time. Fear being the biggest factor. Love was mixed in there. Lack of self respect or true knowledge of myself. I was exactly her age when my abusive relationship started and I know the many reasons why. Most of them, after the fact, are totally senseless. There is no sense when you're in this though. But, it is easy for me to say this because I don't trust another living soul to get into any relationship, period. | |
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Vendetta1 said: ToraToraDreams said: Women stay in abusive relation ships all the time out of fear or dependence. Emotions are a bitch man. Doesn't make her stupid. | |
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Graycap23 said: If true, dude should go 2 jail. PERIOD.
These are felony counts. [Edited 3/5/09 11:35am] Yup. What a lil' bitch. | |
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Graycap23 said: If true, dude should go 2 jail. PERIOD.
These are felony counts. I agree> I don't care who he is, Chris Brown is not above the law. This doesn't even seem real. | |
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So she didn't have to take him to court herself. So if they got married, does that mean she doesn't have to testify against him now? | |
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Vendetta1 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Ex stupid here! There are a million bazillion things that went into why I stayed with my abuser, even after the second, third, fourth, fifth.....time. Fear being the biggest factor. Love was mixed in there. Lack of self respect or true knowledge of myself. I was exactly her age when my abusive relationship started and I know the many reasons why. Most of them, after the fact, are totally senseless. There is no sense when you're in this though. But, it is easy for me to say this because I don't trust another living soul to get into any relationship, period. Well I am very happy to say that nobody will ever lay their hands on me again. Once is the last. Mostly because I just chopped off their hands 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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JasonWill1980 said: Chris is going down! He deserves it for doing that to a woman
yep, this was pure stupidity. I always got confused with Chris Brown, Akon and Ne-Yo. They all seem alike to me. But wasn't CB the one who performed Thriller in 2006?? | |
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So on Larry King they said that Rihanna is going to testify. Doesn't sound like a reconciliation to me.
Okay, they have reconciled. She had an opportunity to really rise up. And she may have missed it. [Edited 3/5/09 18:18pm] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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^^Yeah, I was confused about her lawyer saying she'd testify too. Testify for the prosecution or defense? Not sure what that meant....How do you know for sure they have reconciled. I mean, I figured they had to a certain degree, but what confirmed that for you from watching this show? "Be glad for what you had baby, what you've got..." | |
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kano1987 said: 728huey said:
Once again, people are already convicting Chris Brown and ready to send his ass to jail, but these are just the official charges brought by the L.A. County District Attorney's office. He's still allowed to have his day in court, and until these charges are proven beyond a reasonable doubt or he pleads down, then we should reserve judgment on his guilt or brutishness. Remember that the cops and D.A. offices love to make an example of high-profile cases. If this were just some well-off black dude and his hot up-and-coming model girlfriend and not two of the most popular young pop stars of past few years, he'd be charged with simple battery and be ordered to go to anger management.
FOOL SHUT UP!!!!! :confused: Hell no!!!! You need to check yourself and stop jumping to conclusions before we hear all of the facts. Whatever you think of Chris Brown, his music, or woman batterers in general, he's allowed to have his day in court, and he's allowed to put Rihanna on the stand under oath to testify, For all we know, maybe she instigated this whole episode by slapping him in the face while they were driving and nearly caused a crash, and he went off on her because of that. At this point, we still don't know; these are only official allegations. Until then, or until he pleads out for probation, people need to look at this objectively. It was the whole public release of Nicole Simpson's 911 call with an angry and furious OJ in the background that got most of America convinced that OJ killed her and Ron Goldman, when people knew that there were a number of huge holes in the case, and it's this whole attitude that's getting people to convict Chris Brown already before we hear everything about this. | |
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TonyVanDam said: Graycap23 said: If true, dude should go 2 jail. PERIOD.
These are felony counts. [Edited 3/5/09 11:35am] Forget 4 years in prison at the most. Chris may become Christina in a matter of a week after getting attack in the showers!!! I never understand why that is considered humor . . . . I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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Again, looking for justifications against Rhianna 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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bettybop said: ^^Yeah, I was confused about her lawyer saying she'd testify too. Testify for the prosecution or defense? Not sure what that meant....How do you know for sure they have reconciled. I mean, I figured they had to a certain degree, but what confirmed that for you from watching this show?
Only that Larry and two of the guests said that they reconciled. Of course I still believe on Rihanna can say. If it's based on them talking at Diddy's house, well that's hardly a reconciliation. I guess the truth of that will eventually come out. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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so she doesn't want an order for him to stay away? If she is back with this dude... | |
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Vendetta1 said: so she doesn't want an order for him to stay away? If she is back with this dude...
She's probably being pressured by a million people not to jeopardize his career. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Alright people, do you not know me? Of course I don't think that ass was defending himself. It was a claim made by many men though as justification for Rhianna's condition
I think the idea was more along the lines of without knowing more, we can't rule out the fight being something started by Rihanna. Why she was in his phone . . . . IF you don't trust him or respect him enough, why are you even with him? I don't care if I'm gone overnight. If I don't ask you to check my phone, leave it alone. Like my wallet. If I can't trust you to be around my wallet and phone, I'm not trying to be around you like that. Which is no excuse for what he did to her. Clearly the police report shows he overreacted. Trying to push her out the car should've given him pause. And what's up with telling her he's really gonna beat her ass when they get home? Was he doing a bonus round or something? (Suggesting this was nothing new for either of them.) I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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these actions on both of their parts are taught from somewhere. either at home or society in general. eventhough they are responsible for their actions as ADULTS. i think the bigger picture lies in the psychology of it. him going to anger management seems like it would be a day at a spa. abuse is something deep rooted.
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What's sad is that a lot of victims of abuse want to leave but don't have the resources whether it be support, finances, relocation spot, whatever. Rihanna has most of this stuff covered. She just needs to get the emotional aspect together. The courage to know that she can be okay without him. But if there's any truth that he was moving on or had moved on to someone else and she was still into him than this will be tougher than expected. And at that age, many young people can't imagine anything more than what they are in. They haven't lived enough to know that relationships are nice but you can live without them and the person you love. [Edited 3/5/09 18:33pm] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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SoulAlive said: There's no way to justify or defend Chris Brown's actions.The guy needs to be locked up NOW.Those details are shocking.If Rhianna stays with this animal,she will be putting her life in serious danger.
Why should he be locked up? He's not a threat to himself or others, and is not a flight risk. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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