Prince was cooler when he was puerto rican "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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[quote] krayzie said: vainandy said: Nope.... Again you invent shit , Michael Jackson has always been more popular than Prince... And when he was black he was even more popular... And it has nothing to do with generation... vainandy said: Also, artists back then made an album every single year. Prince made one over year, so did Rick James, so did The Barkays, so did everyone. Everyone that is, except Michael Jackson who made one every five years. Radio stations back then didn't drag out albums for two and three years like they do now. By the time an artist came out with a new album the very next year, their current album had already been out of style for months. Even if someone wanted to prefer Michael over Prince back then, they would have had a hard time because Michael was completely forgotten by the time his new album came out....except for the pop world and video channels which drug the shit out for years. Wait a minute, you are confusing everything... what's the point with the fact that Prince made one album every year and this thread... Second thing MJ only started to wait years to release a new album only after Thriller... And when you said " Radio stations back then didn't drag out albums", actually MJ has always been successful to drag out albums because each of his album constantly produced 4 or 5 top 10 hits... Off The wall was the first album ever to produce 4 top 10 hits... Off the wall was made between Destiny and Triumph... Eevrything you said is total bullshit... "Off The Wall" was very successful but almost a year later, it was completely out of style on R&B radio. The Jacksons would have never released "Truimph" if it had been drug out for years. During this time, Michael would release an album with his brothers the next year but Michael as a solo artist was considered old news once his solo album got old after a year (which was normal for the time). Prince and everyone else was still fresh because they kept the new albums coming every year. But like I said before, Michael, the solo artist, was old news for years at a time on R&B radio because it took him that long to release a new album. The years he released something with his brothers, everyone was praising the group, not him alone. Pop radio is the one that made him out to be more than what he really was and kissed his ass. As for me "inventing things" and talking "total bullshit", these were my junior high and high school years and I lived through this era I listened to R&B radio 99% of the time. Were you even born yet back then or were you were in diapers? I didn't read my facts from some music critic after the fact, I lived through them and was old enough to remember what the music critics (which are usually pop, not R&B critics) don't tell you because they don't know. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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MuthaFunka said: krayzie said: Sister, Private joy, Head, controversy, Dirty Mind Only retared teenagers can make this type of songs... This is not mature, this is childish... His music became more mature in his late 20's Riiiiight! And Beat It, Bad, PYT, and Thriller are super-mature songs, eh? The Girl Is Mine is more immature than any on Thriller. | |
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krayzie said: namepeace said: notwithstanding my disagreement, I'll allow you to elaborate on your conclusory statement. you use the term "was." can you describe the period of time when it was "atrociously childish" and when his era of "atrociously childish" music ended? i'd grant that his music wasn't as thematically textured as the artist displayed in your avatar, but please explain. Sister, Private joy, Head, controversy, Dirty Mind Only retared teenagers can make this type of songs... This is not mature, this is childish... His music became more mature in his late 20's Those are extremely adult subjects in those songs. Meanwhile, Michael was singing about ghosts and goblins and things. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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TonyVanDam said: MuthaFunka said: Riiiiight! And Beat It, Bad, PYT, and Thriller are super-mature songs, eh? The Girl Is Mine is more immature than any on Thriller. And that's REALLY sad that that may be true. 2 Grown ass men signing about whose chick it is. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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vainandy said: Those are extremely adult subjects in those songs. Meanwhile, Michael was singing about ghosts and goblins and things. Exactly! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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vainandy said: Those are extremely adult subjects in those songs. Meanwhile, Michael was singing about ghosts and goblins and things. | |
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MuthaFunka said: TonyVanDam said: The Girl Is Mine is more immature than any on Thriller. And that's REALLY sad that that may be true. 2 Grown ass men signing about whose chick it is. How about that? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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vainandy said: Those are extremely adult subjects in those songs. Meanwhile, Michael was singing about ghosts and goblins and things. He's still singing about those things. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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MuthaFunka said: vainandy said: Those are extremely adult subjects in those songs. Meanwhile, Michael was singing about ghosts and goblins and things. Exactly! ----- I think some people on this board have a whole different definition of maturity. P is dealing with race, personal freedom, sex, and nuclear destruction on 1999. | |
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laurarichardson said: MuthaFunka said: Exactly! ----- I think some people on this board have a whole different definition of maturity. P is dealing with race, personal freedom, sex, and nuclear destruction on 1999. Exactly. In fact, P was bringing up racial/spiritual/political/sexual issues early on in just one damn song/album - CONTROVERSY. MJ went "Disney" with his "Black or White" cut, as to not shake up any of his fan base. P put a lotta racial issues on blast and didn't give a fuck. [Edited 4/22/08 11:30am] nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: TonyVanDam said: The Girl Is Mine is more immature than any on Thriller. And that's REALLY sad that that may be true. 2 Grown ass men signing about whose chick it is. Even sadder when you consider one of the men (Paul) is over FORTY! Then we heard a replay ("Same Girl"). | |
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Timmy84 said: MuthaFunka said: And that's REALLY sad that that may be true. 2 Grown ass men signing about whose chick it is. Even sadder when you consider one of the men (Paul) is over FORTY! Then we heard a replay ("Same Girl"). nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Timmy84 said: Even sadder when you consider one of the men (Paul) is over FORTY! Then we heard a replay ("Same Girl"). Macca: "I love you MORE than HE (take you anywhere)!" MJ: "BUT I love you ENDLESSLY (loving we will share)!" Girl: "Who cares? I'm dating Rick James!" | |
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MuthaFunka said: TonyVanDam said: The Girl Is Mine is more immature than any on Thriller. And that's REALLY sad that that may be true. 2 Grown ass men signing about whose chick it is. That's very not pimp! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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MuthaFunka said: Timmy84 said: Even sadder when you consider one of the men (Paul) is over FORTY! Then we heard a replay ("Same Girl"). Usher-she's my man....I mean GIRL!....yea....girl R.Kelly-well I pissed on the bitch first! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: MuthaFunka said: And that's REALLY sad that that may be true. 2 Grown ass men signing about whose chick it is. That's very not pimp! Plus you can probably tell from both guys' language that the girl wasn't into 'em. She wanted someone like Prince or Rick, Michael and Paul were pretty boys. Their conversation was not even believable: Paul: "Michael we're not gonna fight about this, ok?" Michael: "Hehe, Paul I think I told you I'm a lover, not a fighter." It sound like they were having tea. It was a cute love song. But I'm glad "Billie Jean" kicked it to the curb. That at least is a mature song since it talks about infidelity and extra-marital pregnancy, lol, though in MJ's world, it was a girl accusing him of fathering ONE of her twins, lol. | |
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bboy87 said: MuthaFunka said: Usher-she's my man....I mean GIRL!....yea....girl R.Kelly-well I pissed on the bitch first! | |
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MuthaFunka said: laurarichardson said: ----- I think some people on this board have a whole different definition of maturity. P is dealing with race, personal freedom, sex, and nuclear destruction on 1999. Exactly. In fact, P was bringing up racial/spiritual/political/sexual issues early on in just one damn song/album - CONTROVERSY. MJ went "Disney" with his "Black or White" cut, as to not shake up any of his fan base. P put a lotta racial issues on blast and didn't give a fuck. [Edited 4/22/08 11:30am] but look- mj was very heavily influenced by the JWs back then and now its P who has that influence- he hasn't gone disney but he was damn near close LOVE HARD. | |
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my black friends prefer Prince over MJ so there... "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
"We had fun, didn't we?" -Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life | |
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I think for the most part we're more familiar with Michael than Prince. We claim him for life. | |
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rainbowchild said: my black friends prefer Prince over MJ so there...
and it's opposite for me But that's because they don't really know who Prince is [Edited 4/22/08 11:55am] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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yes this particular orger always seem to make it a race issue. On my most ovverated artists thread he/she accused me of picking only black artists because they were black. i stifled this argument quickly, but i think he/she killed the thread. My most logical guess is that he/she is a white 11 year old who just watched Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and is convinced everything is a race issue. | |
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purplecam said: vainandy said: Those are extremely adult subjects in those songs. Meanwhile, Michael was singing about ghosts and goblins and things. He's still singing about those things. I still can't believe he even wanted to bring up the subject of maturity by referring to Prince as having the mind of a retarded teenager when Michael Jackson's goofy ass has the mind of a damn 8 year old. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I still can't believe he even wanted to bring up the subject of maturity by referring to Prince as having the mind of a retarded teenager when Michael Jackson's goofy ass has the mind of a damn 8 year old. Well the dude doesn't call himself Krayzie for nothing. It certainly fits him talking all that bullshit. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Timmy84 said: MuthaFunka said: Macca: "I love you MORE than HE (take you anywhere)!" MJ: "BUT I love you ENDLESSLY (loving we will share)!" Girl: "Who cares? I'm dating Rick James!" | |
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bboy87 said: MuthaFunka said: Usher-she's my man....I mean GIRL!....yea....girl R.Kelly-well I pissed on the bitch first! THAT must be a long lost episode of Trapped In The Closet. | |
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purplecam said: vainandy said: I still can't believe he even wanted to bring up the subject of maturity by referring to Prince as having the mind of a retarded teenager when Michael Jackson's goofy ass has the mind of a damn 8 year old. Well the dude doesn't call himself Krayzie for nothing. It certainly fits him talking all that bullshit. Fuck all that. We're talking about 2 legends' maturity. Here's REAL immaturity Check out this tracklisting 1. Your Body's Callin' 2. Bump N' Grind (LP Version) 3. Homie Lover Friend 4. It Seems Like You're Ready 5. Freak Dat Body 6. I Like The Crotch On You 7. Summer Bunnies 8. For You 9. Back To The Hood Of Things 10. Sadie 11. Sex Me (Part I) / Sex Me (Part II) purplecam, take a guess who this is "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Rhondab said: what are you talking about Yea, I'm not gonna even bother to read the rest of this shit In fact, I don't even know anyone (Black) that prefers MJ | |
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bboy87 said: purplecam said: Well the dude doesn't call himself Krayzie for nothing. It certainly fits him talking all that bullshit. Fuck all that. We're talking about 2 legends' maturity. Here's REAL immaturity Check out this tracklisting 1. Your Body's Callin' 2. Bump N' Grind (LP Version) 3. Homie Lover Friend 4. It Seems Like You're Ready 5. Freak Dat Body 6. I Like The Crotch On You 7. Summer Bunnies 8. For You 9. Back To The Hood Of Things 10. Sadie 11. Sex Me (Part I) / Sex Me (Part II) purplecam, take a guess who this is That child molesting twat who belongs under the jail. I'd spit on that n*gga if I could. Fucking rat. [Edited 4/22/08 13:00pm] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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