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I wonder if Van woke the next morning, empty bottles and all... and thought "Oh Crap!". Now I gotta go see what time he posted it. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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The funny thing is that if someone like Alicia Keys wrote that same quote on her blog or myspace, everyone would be ripping that woman apart and you know it. As for Van Hunt, like i said before no comparison between the two, except maybe singing in falsetto at times, musically they are different and its impossible to compare Prince at 50 to Van Hunt at 35 considering all that Prince did from ages 19-50, we can all question why Prince got into the "business" but no one knows but prince. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I really enjoyed reading his blog.
Much respect. I've had his album in my Amazon cart for months now. Maybe I should buy it... | |
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Van Hunt is a nobody and couldn't even wear Prince's jock strap. That much is fact. I think Prince wrote more quality songs than Van Hunt ever has, even if Prince only ever released one album. To say that Prince doesn't write good songs anymore is ridiculous. The problem is that Prince doesn't release them. You also have to stretch pretty far to bash Prince for not being a consistent songwriter, simply because Prince is so prolific he writes and records constantly. With all of his creations, of course it isn't going to be all the same quality. The same is true of any prolific artist, such as Woody Allen, who also faces the same scrutiny. The fact is the Van Hunt is a nobody. "Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" | |
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I had to go to his blog and bash him, simply because he expects critical immunity, but that doesn't stop him from bashing Prince's songwriting. What an idiot. Typical of a current r&b artist -- thinks he's a great musician even though he's about 2/10 as original and 1/10 as meaningful as artists before him. "Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" | |
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Methinks thou dost protest too much, Mr. Hunt...
And just a tip: when anyone, anywhere, starts name dropping gobs and gobs of people in order to present themselves and knowledgeable and astute, it usually only comes across as egotistic and desperate. Thelonious Monk, Art Tatum, Charlie Parker, Mccoy Tyner, Oscar Peterson, Johnny Hodges, yadda yadda, blah blah blah...were you not able to make your point without trying to make sure people ooh'd and ahh'd at your "vast" musical knowledge? Were you really deluded enough in your own self-importance that you felt tossing out unnecessary musical blather as "modal scales in fourths-using major minor 11ths" would have your readers saying "Whoa! Don't mess with him!!"..?? I mean, seriously...did you really think mentioning Michelangelo and Marlon ("emphasis on the 'iste') Brando in your far-too-lengthy rant would somehow drive home your point? What a bunch of twaddle... | |
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And this is why, children, if you are still an unknown artist you shouldn't be referring to yourself constantly in the same paragraphs to the biggest classic artists of the 20th century. Furthermore, this is why you should keep your own personal thoughts to yourself - and in your own DIARY - and not post them for everybody see. Because no matter what, and how relevant you might feel they are at the time, they're still going to be really embarrassing once you get over the incident. | |
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Byron said: Were you really deluded enough in your own self-importance that you felt tossing out unnecessary musical blather as "modal scales in fourths-using major minor 11ths" would have your readers saying "Whoa! Don't mess with him!!"..??
This was my favourite part too. | |
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CalhounSq said: Van He broke it down, didn't he? | |
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novabrkr said: And this is why, children, if you are still an unknown artist you shouldn't be referring to yourself constantly in the same paragraphs to the biggest classic artists of the 20th century. Furthermore, this is why you should keep your own personal thoughts to yourself - and in your own DIARY - and not post them for everybody see. Because no matter what, and how relevant you might feel they are at the time, they're still going to be really embarrassing once you get over the incident.
It was other folks comparing him to Prince, not Van himself. He was just responding to it. | |
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novabrkr said: Byron said: Were you really deluded enough in your own self-importance that you felt tossing out unnecessary musical blather as "modal scales in fourths-using major minor 11ths" would have your readers saying "Whoa! Don't mess with him!!"..??
This was my favourite part too. The whole thing was beyond arrogant... | |
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guitarslinger44 said: novabrkr said: And this is why, children, if you are still an unknown artist you shouldn't be referring to yourself constantly in the same paragraphs to the biggest classic artists of the 20th century. Furthermore, this is why you should keep your own personal thoughts to yourself - and in your own DIARY - and not post them for everybody see. Because no matter what, and how relevant you might feel they are at the time, they're still going to be really embarrassing once you get over the incident.
It was other folks comparing him to Prince, not Van himself. He was just responding to it. I can't help but think that Vanny was drinking or other at the time. He seems to be a smart enough guy...he knows better. That's the behavior you get from one of those new artists...the ones that have no clue about how it all works. What would have been funny is if he'd slammed the Prince fans... But attacking Prince was unnecessary and childish. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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You bitches are funny; really freakin' funny. This whole thread has me crackin' up as you reinforce exactly what dude was talking about.
Let's clear up a couple of things first - HE DIDN'T COME TO PRINCE.ORG, he posted on HIS blog. Someone else (Utopia 7) REPOSTED HIS THOUGHTS FROM HIS BLOG HERE. You jokers are ranting on and on like he came here and wrote "Prince sucks ass" on a blackboard 100 times or something. Secondly, for the most part he is right. You can play semantics all day long and rewrite history and romanticize Prince's musical journey but "Soft and Wet" started Prince's career, not "Sign Of The Times", so GTFOH with that b.s. about Prince starting out to be some "great songwriter" when its the glitz and glam that he does so well that is a large part of what has acquired him so many fans over the years. His crowd would be a lot different if he went the Stevie Wonder route and you all know it. Play semantics all day long but you KNOW its true. You fanbot zealots are the funniest. You run to Prince's defense even though he damn near had this place closed down. Dude don't "love" y'all. Prince fans are like the obsessed girls who leave a thousand messages on an answering machine or the obsessed guy who stalks a woman all evening and parks outside her house. Pathetically and desperately seeking to appease someone who doesn't even know you exist and doesn't care is worthy of a sit down on "the couch" with a professional of the psychiatric sort. People take shots at Sananda on here but who gave their CD away to their fans first? NOT PRINCE. Who decided to use the idea as a promotional tool to get heads into a concert in theaters? Hmmm....I wonder? Then on top of that, he got praise as if he was the first to do it. No one has criticized Prince's ability to create music but you fanatics with this "ranking system" in your heads are hilariously embarrassing when you speak of what other artists have earned the right to say and do in comparison to Prince. You act like dude is the only person writing music; maybe its just all you listen to. There's plenty more. All artists have the right of expression. ALL. When you don't like it, that's part of what makes it art, be it opinion or song. PRINCE'S MUSIC IS NO MORE OR LESS IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S. You may believe the contrary but in truth, its all art and all individual perception. I've had a good laugh from this thread. Prince.org is entertaining if nothing else. Sometimes its nothing else. | |
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lastdecember said: Very true, Prince on his first 4 records was not what you will call a "commerical" artist,
Oh please, get real. lastdecember said: and seriously through most of his career he hasnt. 1999 and Purple Rain exploded mainly because there was nothing like it anywhere out there,
BULLSHIT. PR was DESIGNED to be a smash. © Bart Van Hemelen
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BlaqueKnight said: You bitches are funny; really freakin' funny. This whole thread has me crackin' up as you reinforce exactly what dude was talking about.
Let's clear up a couple of things first - HE DIDN'T COME TO PRINCE.ORG, he posted on HIS blog. Someone else (Utopia 7) REPOSTED HIS THOUGHTS FROM HIS BLOG HERE. You jokers are ranting on and on like he came here and wrote "Prince sucks ass" on a blackboard 100 times or something. Secondly, for the most part he is right. You can play semantics all day long and rewrite history and romanticize Prince's musical journey but "Soft and Wet" started Prince's career, not "Sign Of The Times", so GTFOH with that b.s. about Prince starting out to be some "great songwriter" when its the glitz and glam that he does so well that is a large part of what has acquired him so many fans over the years. His crowd would be a lot different if he went the Stevie Wonder route and you all know it. Play semantics all day long but you KNOW its true. You fanbot zealots are the funniest. You run to Prince's defense even though he damn near had this place closed down. Dude don't "love" y'all. Prince fans are like the obsessed girls who leave a thousand messages on an answering machine or the obsessed guy who stalks a woman all evening and parks outside her house. Pathetically and desperately seeking to appease someone who doesn't even know you exist and doesn't care is worthy of a sit down on "the couch" with a professional of the psychiatric sort. People take shots at Sananda on here but who gave their CD away to their fans first? NOT PRINCE. Who decided to use the idea as a promotional tool to get heads into a concert in theaters? Hmmm....I wonder? Then on top of that, he got praise as if he was the first to do it. No one has criticized Prince's ability to create music but you fanatics with this "ranking system" in your heads are hilariously embarrassing when you speak of what other artists have earned the right to say and do in comparison to Prince. You act like dude is the only person writing music; maybe its just all you listen to. There's plenty more. All artists have the right of expression. ALL. When you don't like it, that's part of what makes it art, be it opinion or song. PRINCE'S MUSIC IS NO MORE OR LESS IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S. You may believe the contrary but in truth, its all art and all individual perception. I've had a good laugh from this thread. Prince.org is entertaining if nothing else. Sometimes its nothing else. Harsh, but true. | |
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Rhondab said: Shut up.....go blow some dust or something (calhoun that's for you!!)
Dammit Rhonda, you just get on my last nerrrr & stay there, don'tcha? Ok, I went to his blog and left a message.
... so I guess I need to be nice now. No, you need to go LISTEN, woman: Seconds of Pleasure, Hot Stage Lights, Down Here In Hell With You, Daredevil Baby, What Can I Say... Van has some nice shit I wasn't into "Dust" either when I first tried to get into him, thought it was too light. Fortunately Blaque kept telling me to listen & I'm so glad I did, Van is truly one of my faves (& Dust grew on me ). He has many moods, don't just judge him on the one song | |
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Ottensen said: BlaqueKnight said: You bitches are funny; really freakin' funny. This whole thread has me crackin' up as you reinforce exactly what dude was talking about.
Let's clear up a couple of things first - HE DIDN'T COME TO PRINCE.ORG, he posted on HIS blog. Someone else (Utopia 7) REPOSTED HIS THOUGHTS FROM HIS BLOG HERE. You jokers are ranting on and on like he came here and wrote "Prince sucks ass" on a blackboard 100 times or something. Secondly, for the most part he is right. You can play semantics all day long and rewrite history and romanticize Prince's musical journey but "Soft and Wet" started Prince's career, not "Sign Of The Times", so GTFOH with that b.s. about Prince starting out to be some "great songwriter" when its the glitz and glam that he does so well that is a large part of what has acquired him so many fans over the years. His crowd would be a lot different if he went the Stevie Wonder route and you all know it. Play semantics all day long but you KNOW its true. You fanbot zealots are the funniest. You run to Prince's defense even though he damn near had this place closed down. Dude don't "love" y'all. Prince fans are like the obsessed girls who leave a thousand messages on an answering machine or the obsessed guy who stalks a woman all evening and parks outside her house. Pathetically and desperately seeking to appease someone who doesn't even know you exist and doesn't care is worthy of a sit down on "the couch" with a professional of the psychiatric sort. People take shots at Sananda on here but who gave their CD away to their fans first? NOT PRINCE. Who decided to use the idea as a promotional tool to get heads into a concert in theaters? Hmmm....I wonder? Then on top of that, he got praise as if he was the first to do it. No one has criticized Prince's ability to create music but you fanatics with this "ranking system" in your heads are hilariously embarrassing when you speak of what other artists have earned the right to say and do in comparison to Prince. You act like dude is the only person writing music; maybe its just all you listen to. There's plenty more. All artists have the right of expression. ALL. When you don't like it, that's part of what makes it art, be it opinion or song. PRINCE'S MUSIC IS NO MORE OR LESS IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S. You may believe the contrary but in truth, its all art and all individual perception. I've had a good laugh from this thread. Prince.org is entertaining if nothing else. Sometimes its nothing else. Harsh, but true. 2 times... | |
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CalhounSq said: Rhondab said: Shut up.....go blow some dust or something (calhoun that's for you!!)
Dammit Rhonda, you just get on my last nerrrr & stay there, don'tcha? Ok, I went to his blog and left a message.
... so I guess I need to be nice now. No, you need to go LISTEN, woman: Seconds of Pleasure, Hot Stage Lights, Down Here In Hell With You, Daredevil Baby, What Can I Say... Van has some nice shit I wasn't into "Dust" either when I first tried to get into him, thought it was too light. Fortunately Blaque kept telling me to listen & I'm so glad I did, Van is truly one of my faves (& Dust grew on me ). He has many moods, don't just judge him on the one song to be honest.....I really just wanted to make ya mad remember I told you that I've listen to other stuff and i'm cool with Van but its fun to get ya! | |
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Well...I wasn't going to post what his message was to me since it was a private note on myspace BUT I think he can add to the discussion.
"i am guilty of judging Prince's songwriting. but, i am qualified to do that. i have met the man on several occassions. talked to him and the people who work for him. for me, there is no doubt about Prince's ambitions and talents. it is NOT songwriting. he spends little time on it. and, at this point in his career he doesn't have to. that wasn't the case earlier in his career. but, as i explained to another person earlier. it is the greatest compliment to his WILL that he wrote such brilliant songs. he MADE himself do it. because he knew he had to in order to show the world what he was capable of as a MUSICIAN. just as i have to MAKE myself practice my instrumentation and my singing. it is not my strongest talent, nor what i love to do most. but, i will myself to being a better musician in order to show the world what i can do as a writer." v h . | |
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Rhondab said: CalhounSq said: No, you need to go LISTEN, woman: Seconds of Pleasure, Hot Stage Lights, Down Here In Hell With You, Daredevil Baby, What Can I Say... Van has some nice shit I wasn't into "Dust" either when I first tried to get into him, thought it was too light. Fortunately Blaque kept telling me to listen & I'm so glad I did, Van is truly one of my faves (& Dust grew on me ). He has many moods, don't just judge him on the one song to be honest.....I really just wanted to make ya mad remember I told you that I've listen to other stuff and i'm cool with Van but its fun to get ya! Aww damn "Seconds of Pleasure" didn't grab you? I forgot that you listened to other stuff b/c you steady making fun of "Dust" You know I can't keep up, girl | |
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Rhondab said: Well...I wasn't going to post what his message was to me since it was a private note on myspace BUT I think he can add to the discussion.
"i am guilty of judging Prince's songwriting. but, i am qualified to do that. i have met the man on several occassions. talked to him and the people who work for him. for me, there is no doubt about Prince's ambitions and talents. it is NOT songwriting. he spends little time on it. and, at this point in his career he doesn't have to. that wasn't the case earlier in his career. but, as i explained to another person earlier. it is the greatest compliment to his WILL that he wrote such brilliant songs. he MADE himself do it. because he knew he had to in order to show the world what he was capable of as a MUSICIAN. just as i have to MAKE myself practice my instrumentation and my singing. it is not my strongest talent, nor what i love to do most. but, i will myself to being a better musician in order to show the world what i can do as a writer." v h . Makes sense to me | |
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CleopatraJones said: I agree with what Mr. Hunt is saying totally.
People on this site have always wanted to make prince into some kind of god when in reality his music is not that good, and if anyone has ever taken the time to read his lyrics, they actually make no sense. Uh...if you really feel this way,then why are you on this site? Yes,Prince has his share of bad songs (like every artist) but he also has alot of amazing songs as well.Alas,I can't say the same about Van Hunt. | |
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Rhondab said: Well...I wasn't going to post what his message was to me since it was a private note on myspace BUT I think he can add to the discussion.
"i am guilty of judging Prince's songwriting. but, i am qualified to do that. i have met the man on several occassions. talked to him and the people who work for him. for me, there is no doubt about Prince's ambitions and talents. it is NOT songwriting. he spends little time on it. and, at this point in his career he doesn't have to. that wasn't the case earlier in his career. but, as i explained to another person earlier. it is the greatest compliment to his WILL that he wrote such brilliant songs. he MADE himself do it. because he knew he had to in order to show the world what he was capable of as a MUSICIAN. just as i have to MAKE myself practice my instrumentation and my singing. it is not my strongest talent, nor what i love to do most. but, i will myself to being a better musician in order to show the world what i can do as a writer." v h . Good point, but i have to disagree, since PRINCE for the most part is not respected in the world as a musician, he may get a kind word here and there but for the most part he is ignored as a musician. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Who is Van Hunt? I've just been on his website and he looks like a Lenny Kravitz clone... I've never heard of him... why is he getting such a bashing from this site? Is this a bit like when I said that Prince should be like TTD and y'all went ape on my ass? | |
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Ottensen said: BlaqueKnight said: You bitches are funny; really freakin' funny. This whole thread has me crackin' up as you reinforce exactly what dude was talking about.
Let's clear up a couple of things first - HE DIDN'T COME TO PRINCE.ORG, he posted on HIS blog. Someone else (Utopia 7) REPOSTED HIS THOUGHTS FROM HIS BLOG HERE. You jokers are ranting on and on like he came here and wrote "Prince sucks ass" on a blackboard 100 times or something. Secondly, for the most part he is right. You can play semantics all day long and rewrite history and romanticize Prince's musical journey but "Soft and Wet" started Prince's career, not "Sign Of The Times", so GTFOH with that b.s. about Prince starting out to be some "great songwriter" when its the glitz and glam that he does so well that is a large part of what has acquired him so many fans over the years. His crowd would be a lot different if he went the Stevie Wonder route and you all know it. Play semantics all day long but you KNOW its true. You fanbot zealots are the funniest. You run to Prince's defense even though he damn near had this place closed down. Dude don't "love" y'all. Prince fans are like the obsessed girls who leave a thousand messages on an answering machine or the obsessed guy who stalks a woman all evening and parks outside her house. Pathetically and desperately seeking to appease someone who doesn't even know you exist and doesn't care is worthy of a sit down on "the couch" with a professional of the psychiatric sort. People take shots at Sananda on here but who gave their CD away to their fans first? NOT PRINCE. Who decided to use the idea as a promotional tool to get heads into a concert in theaters? Hmmm....I wonder? Then on top of that, he got praise as if he was the first to do it. No one has criticized Prince's ability to create music but you fanatics with this "ranking system" in your heads are hilariously embarrassing when you speak of what other artists have earned the right to say and do in comparison to Prince. You act like dude is the only person writing music; maybe its just all you listen to. There's plenty more. All artists have the right of expression. ALL. When you don't like it, that's part of what makes it art, be it opinion or song. PRINCE'S MUSIC IS NO MORE OR LESS IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S. You may believe the contrary but in truth, its all art and all individual perception. I've had a good laugh from this thread. Prince.org is entertaining if nothing else. Sometimes its nothing else. Harsh, but true. With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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van hunt is a pretty cool musician, I enjoy his stuff. too much petty B.S. talk about stuff ya'll know nothing about. U probably can't write or play as well. If U don't have anything positive 2 say, shut the fuck up | |
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I think a lot of celebrities would become quite shocked at what kind of analysis and trashtalk they could google up about themselves...
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ufoclub said: I think a lot of celebrities would become quite shocked at what kind of analysis and trashtalk they could google up about themselves...
you have to ignore it if you are famous! I bet alot of them are curious and post anonymously on fansites.Usher has said that he does this. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: You bitches are funny; really freakin' funny. This whole thread has me crackin' up as you reinforce exactly what dude was talking about.
Let's clear up a couple of things first - HE DIDN'T COME TO PRINCE.ORG, he posted on HIS blog. Someone else (Utopia 7) REPOSTED HIS THOUGHTS FROM HIS BLOG HERE. You jokers are ranting on and on like he came here and wrote "Prince sucks ass" on a blackboard 100 times or something. Secondly, for the most part he is right. You can play semantics all day long and rewrite history and romanticize Prince's musical journey but "Soft and Wet" started Prince's career, not "Sign Of The Times", so GTFOH with that b.s. about Prince starting out to be some "great songwriter" when its the glitz and glam that he does so well that is a large part of what has acquired him so many fans over the years. His crowd would be a lot different if he went the Stevie Wonder route and you all know it. Play semantics all day long but you KNOW its true. You fanbot zealots are the funniest. You run to Prince's defense even though he damn near had this place closed down. Dude don't "love" y'all. Prince fans are like the obsessed girls who leave a thousand messages on an answering machine or the obsessed guy who stalks a woman all evening and parks outside her house. Pathetically and desperately seeking to appease someone who doesn't even know you exist and doesn't care is worthy of a sit down on "the couch" with a professional of the psychiatric sort. People take shots at Sananda on here but who gave their CD away to their fans first? NOT PRINCE. Who decided to use the idea as a promotional tool to get heads into a concert in theaters? Hmmm....I wonder? Then on top of that, he got praise as if he was the first to do it. No one has criticized Prince's ability to create music but you fanatics with this "ranking system" in your heads are hilariously embarrassing when you speak of what other artists have earned the right to say and do in comparison to Prince. You act like dude is the only person writing music; maybe its just all you listen to. There's plenty more. All artists have the right of expression. ALL. When you don't like it, that's part of what makes it art, be it opinion or song. PRINCE'S MUSIC IS NO MORE OR LESS IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S. You may believe the contrary but in truth, its all art and all individual perception. I've had a good laugh from this thread. Prince.org is entertaining if nothing else. Sometimes its nothing else. Good post. And without being nasty or cynical. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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BlaqueKnight said: You bitches are funny; really freakin' funny. This whole thread has me crackin' up as you reinforce exactly what dude was talking about.
Let's clear up a couple of things first - HE DIDN'T COME TO PRINCE.ORG, he posted on HIS blog. Someone else (Utopia 7) REPOSTED HIS THOUGHTS FROM HIS BLOG HERE. You jokers are ranting on and on like he came here and wrote "Prince sucks ass" on a blackboard 100 times or something. Secondly, for the most part he is right. You can play semantics all day long and rewrite history and romanticize Prince's musical journey but "Soft and Wet" started Prince's career, not "Sign Of The Times", so GTFOH with that b.s. about Prince starting out to be some "great songwriter" when its the glitz and glam that he does so well that is a large part of what has acquired him so many fans over the years. His crowd would be a lot different if he went the Stevie Wonder route and you all know it. Play semantics all day long but you KNOW its true. You fanbot zealots are the funniest. You run to Prince's defense even though he damn near had this place closed down. Dude don't "love" y'all. Prince fans are like the obsessed girls who leave a thousand messages on an answering machine or the obsessed guy who stalks a woman all evening and parks outside her house. Pathetically and desperately seeking to appease someone who doesn't even know you exist and doesn't care is worthy of a sit down on "the couch" with a professional of the psychiatric sort. People take shots at Sananda on here but who gave their CD away to their fans first? NOT PRINCE. Who decided to use the idea as a promotional tool to get heads into a concert in theaters? Hmmm....I wonder? Then on top of that, he got praise as if he was the first to do it. No one has criticized Prince's ability to create music but you fanatics with this "ranking system" in your heads are hilariously embarrassing when you speak of what other artists have earned the right to say and do in comparison to Prince. You act like dude is the only person writing music; maybe its just all you listen to. There's plenty more. All artists have the right of expression. ALL. When you don't like it, that's part of what makes it art, be it opinion or song. PRINCE'S MUSIC IS NO MORE OR LESS IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S. You may believe the contrary but in truth, its all art and all individual perception. I've had a good laugh from this thread. Prince.org is entertaining if nothing else. Sometimes its nothing else. I don't give a fuck what he said about Prince...his response/thoughts/what-the-fuck-ever was both arrogant and transparent. He could have been talking about Soupy Sales and I would have thought the same thing. He came across as one of those Star Trek geeks naming every cast member from episode 9 of season two while talking about how the magna-three turbo thrust boosters on the third starship from the left had their heating coil on the outside when everyone knows that magna-three turbo thrust boosters on starships have their heating coils on the inside...and all in an effort to prove his point that Kirk would have kicked Picard's ass in a fight ... And it hardly matters where he did it...it's still pathetically arrogant no matter where it was posted, or why. | |
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