Accujack said:

he. did. not.

Accujack said:

Van Hunt posted this today;

"thank you for your comments yesterday. i had to elaborate on a few points in the blog- particularly those concerning Prince. based on some of the responses, i, obviously, did not make myself clear."


"What they don't know is that 'their man', while he is an incredible talent and entertainer, he WILLED his biggest hits into being. Because he HAD to be a star. (IF) he no longer writes great songs it's only because being a great songwriter was never his goal. Being relevant was/is. Prince wanted to be the best recording artist/entertainer there ever was. And, he is. but, he MADE himself learn how to write hit songs because he knew he had to in order to reach that plateau. he no longer has to have hit songs. now, his songs only serve as a means to an end - vehicles for what he loves to do - PLAY! he still practices scales like a 20 year old music student. and, he's 50!"

that is the revised version from the original blog

Meloh9 said:

that's definitely not how I read it! The clarification helps a lot.

I kind of agree, too, that Prince simply likes to play music at this point. Some of his songs like Reflection aren't great compositions, just nice music.

But that was my only problem with his rant. Not necessarily that he criticized Prince or that he was angry with prince fans, just that it didn't make much sense to me.

I've been a member of prince.org for almost 9 years now and I've seen some crazy threads in that time, but I've NEVER seen a thread like this before. I posted on the "Van Hunt is Prince's Son" thread that I haven't heard very much of VH's music but since I own one of his CD's that I haven't played yet, "On the Jungle Floor", this thread has made me want to listen to it now, (thanks Calhoun Sq again for telling me what CD it was that I had) .

From what I've observed on this thread, it seems to me that it's ok for a Prince fan to bash Prince but not ok for someone else to do the same, whether it be a musician or not. Look, I love Prince and his music like a fat kid loves him some cake and ice cream, but Prince got some issues just like everyone else on Earth, including you and I. I'm just baffled by seeing people here bash Van Hunt for dogging Prince when some of those same people do the exact same thing that they are dogging Van Hunt for doing. It's very do as I say not as I do if you ask me. He's entitled to an opinion, just like you and I. I don't have to agree with it. Hell, it may piss me off, but it's his right. Going by this thread, you'd think he was planning on bombing Paisley Park or something. In the end, it's not that serious. Just my

NDRU said:

I still say Prince is a true Gemini to the heart, he is like two different artist in one, we have the pure artist, Rainbow Children, and the artist that tries to sound relevant (anything on 3121)

True he may not have to prove himself these days, but every now and then we still get songs like incense and candles that throw me for a loop, then when he wants to make a personal statement ( like the recent Pfunk ) it tends to be more of a free form jam

Prince is not with out compromise these days, you can always tell when he is gunning for the radio

What if...
Vanny did this deliberately?
He knows, as we all do, that when you wave a red flag in front of Prince, he comes charging.
What if he thought it would be a good way to make some waves?

Van, if you read this, I mean, when you read this, how 'bout a song for the .org fams...the ones you have a problem with. They need another song.
Let's see what you can do on the fly.
If it's good, I'll download it for .99 cents.
But not a penny more.


(Meanwhile: Prince is in Fla, penning PFUNK2.)

Imagine if he sat in a room with P and said everything he posted.



Anyway, Cap'n Cunt is a giant ass.

If this results in some exchange with him and P or goes anywhere at all, it would be purely a lucky accident, but P answering would be pretty damn funny.

BlaqueKnight said:

wonder505 said:

That's what I'm saying Sis, If I'm going rant about some random individuals comparing me to Prince the last thing I'd want to do is make yet another comparison, No logic there. Shouldn't my goal be to take the focus off of Prince while responding to my critics?

It would have been more interesting and more constructive for him to share more of what Van Hunt is about and what he feels he brings to the table that is unique and leave it at that. I've known about Prince for 26 years, the good the bad and the ugly.

Tell me about your creative process or your background or whatever...telling me to kiss your ass isn't telling me who you are. Or is it???

I ain't mad at the brotha, I think he reacted in the moment without thinking. I just thought he could have done better.

Dance said:

I love it!

sosgemini said:

why. put. periods. after. each. word. like. that?

Haters, check yourselves!!!




(I have no idea what that means or who it is directed at or even what this thread is about, it just seemed appropriate to say.)

I've said it before, and I think it bears repeating - the one thing ppl get to do when they get into a fan forum like this is bash and hate on pretty much anyone or anything they like. But when it comes down to it, and they were to be given an opportunity to say what they say here (verbatim) to the artist directly, on THE very outside, all they would do is paraphrase and be constructive, but not because they mean to, but because they fear that the person they're talking sh*t about would just up and deck them.

Accujack said:

Testosterone is such a mixed blessing. 2 different people, times and places. Arrogance is arrogance however it manifests but the younger should respect their elders period imo. Good luck getting a 31 year old to look past the tin foil hat crowd.

I've said it before, and I think it bears repeating - imagine Vag making his comments in P's presence.

Those who want to claim there was nothing offensive about Vag's BOOK ON WHY P SUCKS might be on a different page than the man himself.

American entertainment is rife w/ brash kids who get wake up calls up the road. VH, P and the nuts all know what the truth is (VH is in awe of P get real) but they tore the boy a new one and he ran into it. Maybe this kinda stuff has to do w/ why P took a break.

Accujack said:

Prince could learn a lot from others outside himself.

Accujack said:

I guess originality isn't your fort'e.
I didn't realize that the org was an idolworshippers only site and that you aren't allowed to like some of Prince's music without completely submersing yourself in everything he does. My bad. I'll leave just for you, k? Sorry to have chosen to like music that's not MN based. Oh, wait....the sign says Music - NON PRINCE...I guess that doesn't really mean non-Prince in the literal sense, since this IS a Prince site and even non-Prince must somehow pertain to or reflect towards Prince. After all, all roads lead to Princey, right? All hail his purple highness!!!

Prince fags? Who said that? Not I.

F**kin' babies

My name is Van Hunt
and I am touchy
My name is Van Hunt
And I am a dummy
When it comes to music
I'm the second coming

2the9s said:

Dance said:

OK.


And? That would be our prerogative. I sure hope I'm on a different page than Prince -- he can be a little loopy sometimes.

BTW, you keep hitting the G key accidentally instead of the N key. I suggest copying Van's name and then you can just paste it when needed.

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lspear76 said:

is this shit for real? are we in the second grade? damn, some of the stuff on this thread is silly as hell.

sosgemini said:

..and that's being kind.

People who've only heard his first album and are judging him solely on that should really hear Jungle Floor.

I'm not that fussed on his debut but his second album is a masterpiece.

sosgemini said:

People don't realize that they shit on other artists YET the artist they hold in the highest regard should be shitproof. The resorting to namecalling thing is juvenile.

Stymie said:

Hey Stymie, I agree but I'm getting confused. The Org is the one place where Prince gets shitted on the most. If Prince gets shitted on a lot here why can't folks shit on other artists. (i'm using the word shit alot i know..) lspear is actually most critical of Prince based on his past post.
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wonder505 said:

Hello wonder.

I guess I am speaking about the folks who shit on other folks but Prince is untouchable. I think it's hypocritical of them. People can say whatever they want, of course, but come better than calling someone Van Cunt.